Dear John, There is nothing recorded for deaths at sea on the SA pioneer CD's However, you might like to look at the passenger list transcription for the Shackamaxon at: http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/shackamaxon1853.shtml or http://tinyurl.com/ka6sxdb The Graham family is listed as originating from Tyrone......... GRAHAM .............. Richard 43yrs Agr. Labourer - Tyrone ...... died at sea.... Rebecca 34yrs .................... Arthur 13yrs ................. 601/1 .......... Mary Jane 9yrs .............. Susannah 7yrs ................ Isabella 7yrs...., died at sea Hugh 2 yrs The two deaths most likely caused by Scarlet Fever. It would seem that due to extreme negligence, it meant that no records were created and thus there was no death registration ever recorded. The only extra information comes from Richard's 13 year old son Arthur (ref: 601/1) for B index ........ which is explained in a footnote:............. " Sources: State Library South Australia, official passenger lists, mainly of immigrants arriving in South Australia under United Kingdom assisted passage schemes, 1847-1886 GRG 35/48a (formely ACC 313); Sydney Shipping Gazette; South Australian Register; The South Australian Government Gazette; Biographical index SA 1836-1885 (the B-index column indicates individuals who may be found in that index, with corresponding reference number for further research) ; FreeBMD ; 1851 UK census'" The SA Marriages index has Rebecca GRAHAM, a widow, no age given, marrying Michael TEE in the Adelaide Wesleyan Chapel on 06 /10 /1853 Ref 16 /233 They lived at "Red Hill", Harrogate South Aust. Arthur married three times 1. Ann Lester BALL, 2. Eliza BENNETT, 3. Florence Ann BOND Hugh married once. Mary Ann OVERTON Mary Jane married once. William GREIG Susanna married Richard Atkinson MONTGOMERY If you need the rest of the information about the marriages, contact me off list I hope these bits help with your research Tony Moore (Castle Hill, NSW) @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ On 28 Sep 2013 at 18:53, Kate wrote: From: "Kate" <ktms@live.com> Subject: Re: death at sea Date sent: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 18:53:30 +1000 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server To: genanz@rootsweb.com > > > "John Maher" wrote in message > news:mailman.3.1380317124.19155.genanz@rootsweb.com... > > Hi. My GGG grandfather Richard Graham died at sea on board the > "Shackamaxon" en route from Liverpool to Adelaide, circa 21st December > 1852. Can anyone tell me if a death cert would have been issued, and > where I may be able to order it? > Cheers, > John Maher. > > Hi John > > I put "Richard Graham" into SMH Trove Jan 1853 and it appears his Daughter > Isabella also died on the voyage. > http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=%22Richard+graham%22&sortby=dateAsc&s=60 > There is also more relating to complaints about the capabilities of the > Surgeon in the "South Australian Register" > http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=shackamaxon > > Haven't been able to find a death certificate for either of them, perhaps > somebody with the Sth Aust. Pioneer CD will be able to help. > > Regards, Kate > (Sydney, Australia)