Hi Jen This List shouldhelp each other and especially new Listers. I cannot reply other than through the above address and not the newsgroup. So, the thread will not flow on. I have found your family an Ancestry, there are many Trees: Alma Marie Martha Rossau Birth: 1881 - Germany Death: 1969 - Victoria, Australia Marriage: 1904 - Australia Spouse: Charles William Smith Father: Carl Wilhelm Adolph Rossau Mother: Henrietta Marie Augusta Gunsman Charles William Smith Birth 17 jul 1870 a.. in Sarah Ann street, Sydney, NSW b.. Death 11 jan 1955 in North Fitzroy, It mentions all the children. Three from first marriage and five from the second. I will compile the info for you, but will be away for a few days, so I wont be until next week. Hope this of some help, Jen. Cheers Joanne Wyee NSW