Hi Shirlee, further to my last email, I did then look at TROVE and found his name listed with the Hawthorn side in two editions of the Argus newspaper. Regards Glenys Hi listers I know one of you out there will know the answer to this one. One of my fellow genies (a 2nd cousin) remembers her father saying that one of the cousins played football at the time for one of the Victorian teams. Is there any site on the internet that I can look up for names of players who have have played in either pre WW11 or after WW11. Shirlee Wellington, NZ