On an earlier voyage of that ship... Otago Daily Times 5 October 1874 ARRIVAL OF THE CHRISTIAN McAUSLAND The seasonable change that distinguished the weather of yesterday from that of the past week was, we are very sure, no more welcome to the folks on shore than to the unfortunate immigrants who had so long been cooped up on board the Christian McAusland within tantalising distance of the shore. The change was the signal for their release from the dreary position the ship had occupied at the Heads from last Tuesday evening. She was towed in by the Geelong, and having a good bill of health, was brought well up the harbour, and anchored off Carey's Bay. As soon as practicable after the arrival of the 10 a.m. train from Dunedin, she was boarded by Mr. Colin Allan, Immigration Commissioner; Dr Drysdale, Medical Member of the Commission, and the Customs and Health officers. Captain Duncan, who by the way, is no stranger to the Port, having been there about two and a half years ago in command of the Maria, received his visitors with all courtesy, and both Dr Eadson, the surgeon superintendent in charge, and himself gave a very satisfactory account of those they had in charge. Considered from a sanitary point of view the passage had been fortunate on the whole. No nfectious disease of a serious nature had broken out, but some of the children had been affected by varicella and whooping cough, and whilst the deaths from the latter complaint were three, there remained on the convalescent list fourteen children, and one child had discovered symptoms of varicella (chicken pox) that morning, but was on deck with the others and looked but little the worse of the attack. Seven deaths had occurred amongst the children, of these the first was in the case of Harry Oak, aged three months who died of want of maternal nourishment on July 13. On August 20th, Elizabeth George, aged eleven months died of dentition diarrhoea. Then a long interval of immunity from mortality ensued until the 24th. Sept., on which day three children died of whooping cough and one of dropsy their names and ages being John P. Symons, twenty-two months; Harriet A. Osborne, seventeen months; Frank Shuffill, seventeen months; and D. J. Scofield, ages two years and seven months, of dropsy. On the per contra side of this account three births appeared, one of them however, in the case of Mrs E. Osborne, September 26th, being premature. The other related to Mrs Mitchell, who was confined of a girl on the 15th September; and Mrs Forbes, also of a girl, on the 26th September. Mrs Mitchell's was a bad case - puerperal fever and convulsions having supervened,. Her recovery was very doubtful for some time, but she eventually rallied. Whilst upon sanitary matters, we may remark that two cases of insanity - one very decided, the other somewhat incipient - had appeared in two of the passengers. The first was that of a young woman named Margaret Anne Thompson, aged 22, who, a few days after the ship left London, was found to be downright insane. She attempted to jump overboard, and was restrained by the Captain at considerable risk, as she turned upon him like a tigress. She was placed in close confinement for a time, but during the remainder of the passage was permitted to go at large under close surveillance. The condition of this unfortunate young And a lot more.. I have the full article if anyone wants it, but it should also be available at Papers past by now. Keith Wellington, NZ -----Original Message----- From: genanz-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:genanz-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of valiant.ace1@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, 26 November 2013 18:35 To: genanz@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: info on ship Christian McAusland On Sunday, March 7, 1999 7:00:00 PM UTC+11, Mike wrote: > I understand my great grandfather and family arrived in NZ on the > Christian McAusland on 6 October 1876 any references to this would be > appreciated > > surname LePetit > > thanks in advance > > Mike i know this may seem far fetched but i have found a diary today.26/11/2013. In which i can not read to clearly but.... is dated thursday 12 october 1876. and the first ine follows.... On board the "Christian McAusland" of Glasgow. contact me ace on 02102726041 if you are interested in reading more. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENANZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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On Sunday, March 7, 1999 7:00:00 PM UTC+11, Mike wrote: > I understand my great grandfather and family arrived in NZ on the Christian > McAusland on 6 October 1876 > any references to this would be appreciated > > surname LePetit > > thanks in advance > > Mike i know this may seem far fetched but i have found a diary today.26/11/2013. In which i can not read to clearly but.... is dated thursday 12 october 1876. and the first ine follows.... On board the "Christian McAusland" of Glasgow. contact me ace on 02102726041 if you are interested in reading more.

Thanks very much to Kate and also to Marg on this. I very much appreciate your help. regards, Martin

"MartinE" wrote in message news:8502ab4e-0828-4ece-8263-cf9f0383fedc@googlegroups.com... Hi Kate. Thanks. But the Pioneer index does have something for place of death, doesn't it? I know that it was often abbreviated, sometimes blank or wrong. Yes, the father (James, I'm pretty sure) was referring to his own children. According to the online index, there were 7 Vic deaths for Swan with father James up to 1869. Do any of those have place names? At the time of the 1869 article, James Swan had a living son David. They were limeburners in the Sorrento area. I don't have a mother's name but will see if I can find one. Thanks for your help. regards, Martin I too, as did Marg, look at the Inquest CD, nothing doing. I know it's frustrating thinking something might be there if one could just see for oneself so I'm sending all Swan Deaths (Father James) prior to 1870 plus three , Father David for same time period. Kate Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 Surname: SWAN Given Names: Archibald Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: James Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Clementina DEWER Age: 9 Sex: Birth Place: PERTHSHIRE Death Place: Year: 1853 Reg Number: 1077 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: SWAN Given Names: James Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: James Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Jane MCCRITCHIE Age: 16 Sex: Birth Place: FIFE Death Place: Year: 1855 Reg Number: 2312 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: SWAN Given Names: James Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: James Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Age: 1 Sex: Birth Place: VIC Death Place: Year: 1856 Reg Number: 5300 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: SWAN Given Names: John Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: James Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Margaret Age: 6 Sex: Birth Place: LEIT Death Place: Year: 1858 Reg Number: 1488 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: SWAN Given Names: Jane Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: James Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Margaret U Age: 16M Sex: Birth Place: BALL Death Place: Year: 1858 Reg Number: 1641 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: SWAN Given Names: Thomas Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: James Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ann MUIR Age: 1 Sex: Birth Place: Death Place: Year: 1864 Reg Number: 6842X1866 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: SWAN Given Names: Thomas Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: James Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ann MUIR Age: 1 Sex: Birth Place: WANG Death Place: Year: 1866 Reg Number: 6842 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 Surname: SWAN Given Names: John Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: David Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Margaret NOT STATED Age: 18M Sex: Birth Place: KIL Death Place: Year: 1860 Reg Number: 6069 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: SWAN Given Names: Matthew Muil Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: David Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Margaret An CAMPBELL Age: 15M Sex: Birth Place: BYLA Death Place: Year: 1862 Reg Number: 8847 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: SWAN Given Names: David Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: David Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Margaret STEWART Age: 8W Sex: Birth Place: HAWT Death Place: Year: 1865 Reg Number: 4187 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: On Monday, November 25, 2013 3:03:03 PM UTC+11, Kate wrote: > "MartinE" wrote in message > > news:67d5ad2e-4fbf-4565-bb16-efdae46c9093@googlegroups.com... > > > > Hi. > > > > Could some kind soul help me with a lookup for the following: Victorian > > deaths, surname SWAN, father's name James (or possibly David), up to the > > year 1869, and place of death Sorrento, Nepean, Point Nepean, Portsea, etc > > (in fact, any location on the peninsula). > > > > The father, in an article dated 9 Jan 1869, mentioned the deaths of two > > children in the area. Any deaths for SWAN, as per above but with a > different > > father's first name (or blank) in the same localities, would also be of > > interest. Thanks for any help. > > > > I used to own all the Vic CDs but am currently forced to use the > historical > > index available of the Dept of Justice site. I find it slightly > frustrating, > > firstly, that they even charge for searches (and for each search page of > > results) and, secondly, that the results only display 20 entries per page. > > Also, it would be helpful if they had the place of death in the search > > results. > > > > regards, > > > > > > Martin Elliget > > Greensborough, Victoria > > > > Martin > > > > Unfortunately the Pioneer CD is no better as regards place of death. > > > > Very silly question but the father was referring to his own children? > > Any mother's name? > > > > Regards, Kate > > Sydney, Australia

"MartinE" <melliget@gmail.com> wrote in message news:67d5ad2e-4fbf-4565-bb16-efdae46c9093@googlegroups.com... Hi. Could some kind soul help me with a lookup for the following: Victorian deaths, surname SWAN, father's name James (or possibly David), up to the year 1869, and place of death Sorrento, Nepean, Point Nepean, Portsea, etc (in fact, any location on the peninsula). The father, in an article dated 9 Jan 1869, mentioned the deaths of two children in the area. Any deaths for SWAN, as per above but with a different father's first name (or blank) in the same localities, would also be of interest. Hi Martin, Nothing obvious jumped out ( also checked SWANN) Only one SWAN death in 1869 and that was of a lady Also checked the VIC inquests and Ancestrys AUS deaths and nothing found Bye -- MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast

"MartinE" wrote in message news:67d5ad2e-4fbf-4565-bb16-efdae46c9093@googlegroups.com... Hi. Could some kind soul help me with a lookup for the following: Victorian deaths, surname SWAN, father's name James (or possibly David), up to the year 1869, and place of death Sorrento, Nepean, Point Nepean, Portsea, etc (in fact, any location on the peninsula). The father, in an article dated 9 Jan 1869, mentioned the deaths of two children in the area. Any deaths for SWAN, as per above but with a different father's first name (or blank) in the same localities, would also be of interest. Thanks for any help. I used to own all the Vic CDs but am currently forced to use the historical index available of the Dept of Justice site. I find it slightly frustrating, firstly, that they even charge for searches (and for each search page of results) and, secondly, that the results only display 20 entries per page. Also, it would be helpful if they had the place of death in the search results. regards, Martin Elliget Greensborough, Victoria Martin Unfortunately the Pioneer CD is no better as regards place of death. Very silly question but the father was referring to his own children? Any mother's name? Regards, Kate Sydney, Australia

Hi Kate. Thanks. But the Pioneer index does have something for place of death, doesn't it? I know that it was often abbreviated, sometimes blank or wrong. Yes, the father (James, I'm pretty sure) was referring to his own children. According to the online index, there were 7 Vic deaths for Swan with father James up to 1869. Do any of those have place names? At the time of the 1869 article, James Swan had a living son David. They were limeburners in the Sorrento area. I don't have a mother's name but will see if I can find one. Thanks for your help. regards, Martin On Monday, November 25, 2013 3:03:03 PM UTC+11, Kate wrote: > "MartinE" wrote in message > > news:67d5ad2e-4fbf-4565-bb16-efdae46c9093@googlegroups.com... > > > > Hi. > > > > Could some kind soul help me with a lookup for the following: Victorian > > deaths, surname SWAN, father's name James (or possibly David), up to the > > year 1869, and place of death Sorrento, Nepean, Point Nepean, Portsea, etc > > (in fact, any location on the peninsula). > > > > The father, in an article dated 9 Jan 1869, mentioned the deaths of two > > children in the area. Any deaths for SWAN, as per above but with a different > > father's first name (or blank) in the same localities, would also be of > > interest. Thanks for any help. > > > > I used to own all the Vic CDs but am currently forced to use the historical > > index available of the Dept of Justice site. I find it slightly frustrating, > > firstly, that they even charge for searches (and for each search page of > > results) and, secondly, that the results only display 20 entries per page. > > Also, it would be helpful if they had the place of death in the search > > results. > > > > regards, > > > > > > Martin Elliget > > Greensborough, Victoria > > > > Martin > > > > Unfortunately the Pioneer CD is no better as regards place of death. > > > > Very silly question but the father was referring to his own children? > > Any mother's name? > > > > Regards, Kate > > Sydney, Australia

"MartinE" wrote in message news:897b1c7c-5ad1-4fa9-a02d-8c97dc0db5a0@googlegroups.com... Hi Kate. I know there were a number of nightmarish voyages out to Australia but it wasn't the Ticonderoga in 1852, was it? Many deaths and some families particularly badly hit. There are Ticonderoga graves at the Quarantine Station cemetery at Point Nepean, Victoria. The McRae, a family of nine - only the father and three sons survived. regards, Martin Elliget Greensborough, Victoria Hi Martin I know there were so many deaths causing much sorrow but this particular Diary was available to read on the Internet but so long ago since I read it I can't remember the name. Thanks for replying. Regards, Kate Sydney, Australia On Sunday, November 24, 2013 1:38:26 PM UTC+11, Kate wrote: > Hello all > > > > Years ago I read the Diary (online) written by a father who recorded the > > tragic deaths of his children on the voyage to Australia. > > Does anybody recall this and the URL? > > > > Thanks > > > > Regards, Kate > > Sydney, Australia

Hi all Looking for any information about Leo Desmond KEARNEY and his wife Mildred May Perriman who were married about 1940 Tasmania; Leo was a well known rep cyclist in Tasmania. I know they had three children including Margaret Anne in 1942 Hobart. All gleaned from Trove. I would like to be able to track down any living descendants if possible. This is for the purpose of identifying a WW1 soldiers. Anyone out there able to help with Tassie requests? regards Marg OLeary Port Stephens NSW marglap@rickarby.net also marg@rickarby.net

Hi. Could some kind soul help me with a lookup for the following: Victorian deaths, surname SWAN, father's name James (or possibly David), up to the year 1869, and place of death Sorrento, Nepean, Point Nepean, Portsea, etc (in fact, any location on the peninsula). The father, in an article dated 9 Jan 1869, mentioned the deaths of two children in the area. Any deaths for SWAN, as per above but with a different father's first name (or blank) in the same localities, would also be of interest. Thanks for any help. I used to own all the Vic CDs but am currently forced to use the historical index available of the Dept of Justice site. I find it slightly frustrating, firstly, that they even charge for searches (and for each search page of results) and, secondly, that the results only display 20 entries per page. Also, it would be helpful if they had the place of death in the search results. regards, Martin Elliget Greensborough, Victoria

Hello all Years ago I read the Diary (online) written by a father who recorded the tragic deaths of his children on the voyage to Australia. Does anybody recall this and the URL? Thanks Regards, Kate Sydney, Australia

<ebony.porter@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:74605e68-c33e-4269-adef-acdeed56f47b@googlegroups.com... > Hi > I have been researching and I am a relative. Who are you ? :) > Dear Ebony Porter ' Who are you' ? is a genealogical newsgroup that covers all of Australia and New Zealand ! Would hazard a guess that you have been searching its archives and found a maybe 17 year old message re PORTERs of East Maitland ? Suggest http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley.html Bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast

Hi Kate. I know there were a number of nightmarish voyages out to Australia but it wasn't the Ticonderoga in 1852, was it? Many deaths and some families particularly badly hit. There are Ticonderoga graves at the Quarantine Station cemetery at Point Nepean, Victoria. The McRae, a family of nine - only the father and three sons survived. regards, Martin Elliget Greensborough, Victoria On Sunday, November 24, 2013 1:38:26 PM UTC+11, Kate wrote: > Hello all > > > > Years ago I read the Diary (online) written by a father who recorded the > > tragic deaths of his children on the voyage to Australia. > > Does anybody recall this and the URL? > > > > Thanks > > > > Regards, Kate > > Sydney, Australia

Hi I have been researching and I am a relative. Who are you ? :) Ebony Porter

In article <bf4vpaFag15U1@mid.individual.net>, genknut@exemail.com.au says... > > > Hi Bob C > > Not that many without a middle name .Would help if you gave > more info .e.g what info was in the 1901 & 1911 censuses > > The Mercantile Marine here seems to date from c 1922 > > Aside from the passenger departures from the UK , Ancestry also > have one on passenger arrivals to port of Freemantle WA . Seems > to be around 33 passengers disembarked from the Omrah 29 Aug > 1911 but no Robert BECKETT ? > > In our National Archives > http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/SearchScreens/BasicSearch.aspx > > via a name search I found ref to a Robert BECKETT age 31 of > Kalgoorlie WA ( large mining area then and now ) but no other > info and file not digitised. Thanks, the pointer to the naa.gov.au site was useful in that it closes off some names. It looks like the 1911 "Omrah" Robert Beckett may have left the ship somewhere before its arrival in Freemantle (just where is another matter - it might not even have been in Australia). We don't even know Robert the "Fireman" actually went to Australia - he could have signed on Australian merchant ship in, say, Liverpool. I'm trying to resolve this at this end - was he buried in a family grave for instance. Census info for 1901 and 1911 for the two Roberts wouldn't help - one was an Ag.Lab, the other a House Painter, neither married. I have a good family reconstruction of both families. -- BobC ========== Change "null" to "news" in reply address.

"BobC" <calverb-null@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:MPG.2cf6a4762515c6099896a2@news.btinternet.com... > I'm trying to fill in some details for a Robet BECKETT who died > during > WW 1. He is commemorated in the UK on a Lancashire village > memorial > tablet which shows him as a "Fireman Australian Mercantile > Marine". > He seems to have died in the Haslar Naval Hospital near > Portsmouth > (England) and he is buried in the local church in Lancashire. > > He obviously has some connection with the village but the > problem is > that there are two Robert Becketts born around the date with > strong > connections to the village (they are actually cousins). > > One disappears from UK census records after 1901, the other is > in the > 1911 but that is as far as we can get. A Robert Beckett > appears in > shipping records in June 1911 travelling from London to > Freemantle, he > is described as a "miner". Neither of the two I have > identified had > occupations related to mining. I realise that other Robert > Becketts > Hi Bob C Not that many without a middle name .Would help if you gave more info .e.g what info was in the 1901 & 1911 censuses The Mercantile Marine here seems to date from c 1922 Aside from the passenger departures from the UK , Ancestry also have one on passenger arrivals to port of Freemantle WA . Seems to be around 33 passengers disembarked from the Omrah 29 Aug 1911 but no Robert BECKETT ? In our National Archives http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/SearchScreens/BasicSearch.aspx via a name search I found ref to a Robert BECKETT age 31 of Kalgoorlie WA ( large mining area then and now ) but no other info and file not digitised. No Robert BECKETT no middle name, shows up in the AUs electoral rolls 1911 + a few years that 'looks right' Via the Aus War Memorial there was 1 x Robert BECKETT 11th battalion KIA 31/ 10/17 but no further info ?? FreeBMDs shows a death of a Robt BECKETT ,aged 37, 4/1916 Lancaster and 2 both 25yo 4/1918 All a bit inconclusive............. Bye -- MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast

I'm trying to fill in some details for a Robet BECKETT who died during WW 1. He is commemorated in the UK on a Lancashire village memorial tablet which shows him as a "Fireman Australian Mercantile Marine". He seems to have died in the Haslar Naval Hospital near Portsmouth (England) and he is buried in the local church in Lancashire. He obviously has some connection with the village but the problem is that there are two Robert Becketts born around the date with strong connections to the village (they are actually cousins). One disappears from UK census records after 1901, the other is in the 1911 but that is as far as we can get. A Robert Beckett appears in shipping records in June 1911 travelling from London to Freemantle, he is described as a "miner". Neither of the two I have identified had occupations related to mining. I realise that other Robert Becketts will have sailed to Australia and that this one may be a red herring, his age is not shown on the shipping record. Are there any Australian records that would help me identify Robert the Naval Fireman (I'm assuming Fireman here is a Stoker). I've Googled for ideas but most Naval stuff doesn't include the Mercantile service. It does seem a bit odd that if he was in the Mercantile service he died in a military hospital but that may relate to his injuries as Haslar seems to be a specialist Naval unit. -- BobC ========== Change "null" to "news" in reply address.

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