G'day. I have come across alterations made much later to NSW birth certificates, but a recent transcript I obtained also included a reference number, specifically a "Papers No. 4207/08" by the Deputy Registrar General, Sydney 13 Oct 1908, for a birth in 1864. I thought this might have pointed to another birth registration in the indexes, but couldn't find one for either 1864 or 1908. If anyone has come across a similar "Papers No." notation on a birth registration, I'd like to hear from you. Thanks Brent

Natalie, The website given by Jewelly as http://www.prov.vic.gov.au/ is of course that of the Public Record Office of Victoria, which is NOT the BDM site for Victoria. The correct site is https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/CA2574F700805DE7/page/Historical+research- Search+historical+indexes?OpenDocument&1=60-Historical+research~&2=10- Search+historical+indexes~&3=~ or go to their home page (shorter site name!) and follow the links http://online.justice.vic.gov.au/ots/home but from your original post you have already done this. links to other states can be found with google searches or on many genealogy society etc. websites Good luck Janen On Mon, Sep 28th, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Jewelly <jewelly66@yahoo.com> wrote: > HI Natalie > > Each state and territory has a different marriage register. > > Which state did you think these people may now reside or been married > in? > > Did the father die in Victoria or elsewhere?? > > NSW marriage index is searchable till 1958, the other states are less > generous in this detail. > > The State Records Acts limit what is available > perhaps a search of the online Victorian Records which are searchable > online may hold some further information when you do a search there. > > http://www.prov.vic.gov.au/ > > Each state has a similar body and often Wills and other paraphanalia > may be searchable online. > > cheers > > Jewelly > > > > > > Shift your problems to challenges. > When you have problems, you worry about them. > When you have challenges - you are working, applying, and attacking > your plan to get results. This shift in thinking from problems to > challenges is important in making tension an asset. > > > > --- On Mon, 28/9/09, Natalie Drest <mccoey84HATANDCOAT@tpg.com.au> > wrote: > > From: Natalie Drest <mccoey84HATANDCOAT@tpg.com.au> > Subject: Alfred William HUNT marriage search please > To: genanz@rootsweb.com > Received: Monday, 28 September, 2009, 8:44 PM > > Hi there all, > > Alfred William HUNT, born VIC 1906 to parents Albert James HUNT and > Catherine Maria, neé SCOTT. > > Alfred was alive in 1950,when his father died. > > I am trying to find any of his descendants, if any. (His > grandfather > William HUNT was my Gt Gt grandfather) > > If it is no trouble, would someone please check for any marriages of > this > Alfred William and/or any children. > > I have not found any marriages on the VIC BDMs online, but there was > an > Alfred william HUNT, carpenter, enrolled on the Labour Corp Register > 1942. > Address Bentleigh, with wife and 3 children - no names. the age > doens't > quite match though (birth date 1901, when he was born, at least > registered, > in 1906) > > TIA > > Regards, > Mary Ann > Please Remove HAT and COAT to reply > > > > > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENANZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > __________________________________________________________________________________ > Get more done like never before with Yahoo!7 Mail. > Learn more: http://au.overview.mail.yahoo.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENANZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

"Geoff Pearson" <gspearson1647@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:7i9h1mF30q4jdU1@mid.individual.net... > > "Lloyd Mitchell" <lloydmitchell@serieux.net> wrote in message > news:mailman.593.1254065436.19407.genanz@rootsweb.com... >> At first I thought that Geoff's question was a joke, but then I >> remembered 'The Barassi Line' as defined by the noted Australian >> historian, the late Professor Ian Turner, in his 'Ron Barassi Memorial >> Lecture' in 1978. >> >> To quote: 'Australia is divided by a deep cultural rift known as the >> Barassi Line. It runs between Canberra, Broken Hill, Birdsville and >> Maningrida (Arnhem Land) and it divides Australia between Rugby and >> Rules'. >> >> There's some debate about the exact course of the line (should Canberra >> be in or out; how much of Queensland plays AFL and so on), but if Geoff's >> question is serious, then he's obviously from the east of it! >> >> Best >> >> Lloyd >> MITCHELLS and WALKERS from Kardella. Korumburra and thereabouts. >> >> >> >> Sherrie Blackman wrote: >>> Hi Geoff, >>> >>> Ron is an old AFL footballer :) Lovely chap, great story. :) >>> >>> http://www.sbs.com.au/shows/whodoyouthinkyouare/watchonline/page/i/1/h/Watch-Online/ >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> Sherrie. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 23:18:49 +1000, Geoff Pearson >>> <gspearson1647@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> "Brent" <brent.richards77@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:30dedac2-eebd-403f-a9c1-9c43020f6cea@f20g2000prn.googlegroups.com... >>>> >>>>> A reminder that the first episode will air tonight at 7:30pm AEST on >>>>> SBS, featuring Ron Barassi. >>>>> >>>> Who is Ron Barassi? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > But I am in Scotland, so all this is very exotic to me - I don't > understand football in this country, let alone the other countries of the > UK. Odd that the WDYTYA formula is worldwide (although your tree is > different to ours) but the celebrities are not. We had David Mitchell and > Kate Humble recently on ours - yes, who? I don't really understand why > they do personalities rather than people with interesting families. Does > Ron cry - footballers do here and everyone in WDYTYA has to cry? LOL Don't worry... i'm in New Zealand and hate sports...i've never heard of Ron Barassi either... -- Sarndra Auckland, NZ Web: www.sarndra.com Twitter: Magna_Quies Flickr.com: sandyem

Colin Finally sorted it out but the current interface is not one designed to win friends and influence people. John Colin Liddell wrote: > John, > > It would appear that there is something wrong with your registration, I suggest writing to the company that services the site, Bruntech IT Services at www.bruntech.com.au/contact-us.html tell them the problem you are having and see what they have to say. > > Colin. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: JohnO > Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.australia+nz > To: genanz@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 2:20 PM > Subject: Re: Rookwood Anglican Cemetery site Warning > > > I've registered and received my confirmation email but > when I go to log in, I'm told "Username and password do > not match or you do not have an account yet." > > They definitely have problems. I'll try again tomorrow > > John > > Colin Liddell wrote: > > Did you receive confirmation of your registration? If not, this may be the problem. > > > > Colin. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Jenny Chester > > Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.australia+nz > > To: genanz@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 6:00 PM > > Subject: Re: Rookwood Anglican Cemetery site Warning > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENANZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi there all, Alfred William HUNT, born VIC 1906 to parents Albert James HUNT and Catherine Maria, neé SCOTT. Alfred was alive in 1950,when his father died. I am trying to find any of his descendants, if any. (His grandfather William HUNT was my Gt Gt grandfather) If it is no trouble, would someone please check for any marriages of this Alfred William and/or any children. I have not found any marriages on the VIC BDMs online, but there was an Alfred william HUNT, carpenter, enrolled on the Labour Corp Register 1942. Address Bentleigh, with wife and 3 children - no names. the age doens't quite match though (birth date 1901, when he was born, at least registered, in 1906) TIA Regards, Mary Ann Please Remove HAT and COAT to reply

Yep The Independent Cemetery section web site is so easy to use, as is the RC section without having to log in blah blah... and the Independent section also shows the actual location. As I said a good start for those who cannot get to this cemetery. Regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html -----Original Message----- From: genanz-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:genanz-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Ron Lankshear in Sydney NSW Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 10:19 PM To: genanz@rootsweb.com Cc: genanz@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Rookwood Anglican Cemetery site Warning >ear/ > > Well yes I did find John 1927 but then Amelia and Matilda are not there presumably the others are also not there. Perhaps there is a block on more recent deaths. Still I expect my cousin John's descendent knows more - I had not looked for burials until this appeared. I suppose you use in conjunction with NSW BDM but a Surname only search would be handy -- Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/

Lesley Uebel wrote: > What I usually do when you need to type in a first name is type in the most > common names such as William, Thomas John, James, Henry etc and the same with > the females, Mary, Elizabeth Catherine etc. My Uebel family, for example, has a > set of about 10 male Christian names that were used throughout the first 3 > generations in Australia so I always try those as well. >ear/ > > Well yes I did find John 1927 but then Amelia and Matilda are not there presumably the others are also not there. Perhaps there is a block on more recent deaths. Still I expect my cousin John's descendent knows more - I had not looked for burials until this appeared. I suppose you use in conjunction with NSW BDM but a Surname only search would be handy -- Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/

Geoff Pearson wrote: > rather than people with interesting families. Does Ron cry - footballers do > here and everyone in WDYTYA has to cry? > > I saw last 35mins - Ron cried as he found out an Irish ancestor had killed his wife by a drunken punch and that the man's son had testified at the trial and caused his confiction and transportation and that years later the son had come to Sydney and lived with the father and so they had been reconciled. Whether he would have started on the search if he had known the dreadful story I know not -- Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/

"Ron Lankshear in Sydney NSW" <ronlank@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4AC0A4D8.1080009@hotmail.com... > Geoff Pearson wrote: > > >> rather than people with interesting families. Does Ron cry - footballers >> do here and everyone in WDYTYA has to cry? >> >> > > I saw last 35mins - Ron cried as he found out an Irish ancestor had killed > his wife by a drunken punch and that the man's son had testified at the > trial and caused his confiction and transportation and that years later > the son had come to Sydney and lived with the father and so they had been > reconciled. Whether he would have started on the search if he had known > the dreadful story I know not > > -- > Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) > try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/ I'm always on the brink of tear when I watch these progs - perhaps that is the attraction.

Hi John Go to the Archives Office of Tasmania web site at: http://www.archives.tas.gov.au/nameindexes Name Index on the left and go to Tasmanian Convicts - then type in his name as Dorset and John in the appropriate places. From there you should be able to find his Conduct Record that is available..... although you will probably have to travel through the pages to find his particular record. Read the instructions :) regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html -----Original Message----- From: genanz-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:genanz-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of johnb Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 6:48 PM To: genanz@rootsweb.com Subject: Convict pardons/Tickets to leave Could someone tell me what these contain please? I know nothing of Australian genealogy or where to start tracing someone who has completed their sentence. I thought the whole of my family was in the UK but have just found my ggg-grandfather John Dorset/Dorsett(Dossett) b c1805 Middlesex (marr Jemima Peplow 1831) who was sentenced to transportation at the Old Bailey on 11 April 1840 and sent to Van Diemans Land on the Susan on 21 April 1842 which arrived 21 July 1842. According to Ancestry there is a record for him in New South Wales and Tasmania, Australia, Convict Pardons and Tickets of Leave, 1834-1859 but I cannot see it as I don't have a Worldwide subscription so don't know whether it would add any useful information. thank you for any assistance John

What I usually do when you need to type in a first name is type in the most common names such as William, Thomas John, James, Henry etc and the same with the females, Mary, Elizabeth Catherine etc. My Uebel family, for example, has a set of about 10 male Christian names that were used throughout the first 3 generations in Australia so I always try those as well. I have not found anything that I have not already found on the Rookwood Cemetery Transcription CD, or by visiting the cemetery on many occasions, but most of my family were either Presbyterian or RC. Although it needs improvement it is a good start and (surely) can only get better. Regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html -----Original Message----- From: genanz-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:genanz-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Ron Lankshear in Sydney NSW Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 5:31 PM To: genanz@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Rookwood Anglican Cemetery site Warning BUT why cannot I search on Surname only - I just don't know if any LANKSHEAR buried there. -- Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/

Julie wrote: > It would also be some use if it gave the details of the grave. eg. > Section & Grave No. Sorted out my login - Firefox had saved my password but with the email as ID. So that was why that came up for login and for some reason changing to just Id did not work. So I deleted Firefox password line from Options. Then it logged in Then I realised don't click "Grave Search" click Deceased Search on left menu. Serious UI problems. I don't expect to have to read How To - UI should be obvious. Anyhow Julie click More at bottom of results that should give Grave number BUT why cannot I search on Surname only - I just don't know if any LANKSHEAR buried there. -- Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/

"Joanne Flack" <bell.bird@bigpond.com> wrote in message > I am having a ball with the site - no problems and when you click "more" > up comes the data re rows and graves. Damn! Now I AM feeling paranoid given that you got that info. Oh well one more try tomorrow.

"Jenny Chester" <jennychester@bordernet.com.au> wrote in message > I have the 3 buttons marked A to increase the font size but the blue bar > ends after the first A and there's no more writing visible, just 2 blank > spaces separated by a vertical line - however, when I put my mouse over > the blank spaces the log in information and the search function appear Ditto for me. As the OP who asked, my thanks for all the help. I've now managed to find the one person in my family who I already knew was buried at Rookwood but I really wouldn't give the site a huge thumbs up as I would really have liked a grave loaction reference. I knew she was at Rookwood and what section of the Necropolis she is planted in. And Robert is quite right about that 'date of death' - it wasn't her death date but her burial date.

Sorry folks, I meant surname only facility. Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elaine Rogers" <alelaine@tpg.com.au> To: <genanz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 4:35 PM Subject: Re.Rookwood problem >I just feel it would be really helpful to family historians and the general >public if there was a name only facility, grave number, row and plot >number. At least the CD does give all these facilities even if a bit out of >date. Also the date of death or interment needs to be clarified. Cheers >Elaine > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENANZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

I just feel it would be really helpful to family historians and the general public if there was a name only facility, grave number, row and plot number. At least the CD does give all these facilities even if a bit out of date. Also the date of death or interment needs to be clarified. Cheers Elaine

Doug Laidlaw wrote: > Ron Lankshear in Sydney NSW wrote: > >> Mary Dean wrote: >>> I too have been having trouble, I have now solved it!! Thank you to the >>> kind person who said it was after the plus or minus font size - it does >>> not show that on the page I get, however I went just after the three plus >>> or minus signs and clicked my mouse - then the login appeared. Might be >>> worth trying for those with the same problem. Must be something still >>> wrong with the site Mary >> Messy site >> Cannot see why we have to register - its free so >> why bother - and a catcha as well >> Anyhow I got the email >> You may now login to >> http://rookwoodcemetery.com.au/ using the username >> and password you registered with. >> >> then I found the Login on the top right Phew why >> is it needed >> >> And now >> >> Bandwidth Limit Exceeded >> The server is temporarily unable to service your >> request due to the site owner reaching his/her >> bandwidth limit. Please try again later. >> >> > Yes, one wonders! But fair enough about the captcha. There are so many > bots around. My personal site, which is interactive & so requires a login, > had a bot attempt to enrol 20 times, but never took the next step, of > course. > > It is my gut feeling that the database won't work for the browsers not > supported yet, but the login bar is plain HTML. The size "buttons" are > images, although they don't look any different. That would be normal. Not > a good advertisement for the Web designer. They say that the site is still > under development. IMO it isn't ready yet. > > Doug, > garrulous, but indexing for http://www.ryersonindex.org > I agree with the sentiments here. If you look around Australia, no two major sites are the same. Some do this, other do that. I can only figure that they have plenty of cash to throw around, paying developers. The worst is Melbourne's Necropolis, that promises so much, delivers a lot less. Paul

On Sep 28, 6:48 pm, johnb <deo-c...@myamail.com> wrote: > Could someone tell me what these contain please? The register has 6 columns. I've looked at the entry for your John Dorset and the column entries are, respectively, Dorset John Susan (2) CC Court May 1840 15 yrs 9 yr 11 m 1 yr 1m I think that the last 3 columns refer to term of sentence, number of years in the colony, time holding ticket of leave. Vivien

Hello all I am having a ball with the site - no problems and when you click "more" up comes the data re rows and graves. My problem is where would infants who died between 1868 and 1879 be buried. I have 7 children of Willian Sarah Russell who died during this period. The parents are buried at Rookwood, dad in 1880 and mum in 1886 but where should I look for the little ones as they don't appear to be buried at Rookwood? any suggestions would be most appreciated. Cheers Joanne

John, It would appear that there is something wrong with your registration, I suggest writing to the company that services the site, Bruntech IT Services at www.bruntech.com.au/contact-us.html tell them the problem you are having and see what they have to say. Colin. ----- Original Message ----- From: JohnO Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.australia+nz To: genanz@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 2:20 PM Subject: Re: Rookwood Anglican Cemetery site Warning I've registered and received my confirmation email but when I go to log in, I'm told "Username and password do not match or you do not have an account yet." They definitely have problems. I'll try again tomorrow John Colin Liddell wrote: > Did you receive confirmation of your registration? If not, this may be the problem. > > Colin. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jenny Chester > Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.australia+nz > To: genanz@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 6:00 PM > Subject: Re: Rookwood Anglican Cemetery site Warning ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENANZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message