> Would like to resolve the issue of where Robert Beavis and Elizabeth > Mackenzie were married - at Windsor, but the marriage cert says Scots > Church, however there was no Scots Church at that time. It was built > later. Well, there is a book in the National Libary entitled: Scots' Presbyterian Church, Windsor, N.S.W., 1839-1967 which suggests that the author believes the church existed from 1839 in time for your 1840 marriage. Remember that the term "church" can mean both a building and a community of people, so it may be that there was a community of people who met for worship from 1839, even if they didn't build a church building until later. Kerry

It reads like a house name to me. Kerry

>From The [London] Times 26 February 1900 -- FROM QUEENSLAND TO NATAL Dr. Joseph Ahearne, writing from the North Queensland Club, Townsville, Queensland, early in January, sends us this dramatic little sketch of a typical Australian volunteer :--I had arrived at the Imperial Hotel here to eat a last hurried meal with Major Tunbridge, who was to leave in an hour, ordered on special service for the front. Being somewhat ahead of the preparations, I stood on the verandah and was looking at an evening paper, when I heard, "Do you think, Sir, I'm fit to go?" Looking up, with a superficial glance, I saw a man apparently not deserving any of one's time or words at such a moment, so I loosely answered, "Oh, yes, certainly." He had on a slouch hat, was clean shaved and wrinkled, wore spectacles, had been recently chewing tobacco ; his wollen shirt was open at the neck and wrists, though the sleeves were not rolled up, but flapped at their full length ; over his left hip was slung a new canvas ration bag. He was quite six feet high, straight, without a superfluous fleshy ounce upon him. "Yes," he continued, while I kept my eyes on the newspaper, "yes, Doctor, I would do for ambulance work anyhow. I can put on a bandage, I can. I was under two doctors. They were gentlemen ; all doctors are gentlemen. Do you think they'd take me?" "I dare say ; they might be glad of you," I said. "If they don't I'll go myself." "Well," I said, seeing now a chance of indicating that he had better go away, "the steamer leaves at eight." "No, it leaves at seven," he replied. "You'll have barely time, then, so go and get your ticket." "I've got it already," he said, and putting his hand into the right side pocket of his moleskin trousers, he pulled out a doubled-up, soiled envelope. "There," said he, stretching toward me a hand and bared forearm. I took a yellow paper and another merely to humour him, and idly opened the yellow one, when I saw "£13 13s., passage to Natal, Aberdeen Line steamer Moravian." "Come and have a drink, old man," and he came inside. Uncovered, he might be 60, with his bald head, but appearance is no guide to the age of these tough North Queensland nomads, for they never alter after 45. "I have a pound or two," he said "to keep me over until they find something for me to do. I can lay a gun yet, or put on a bandage with any one. That's the work would suit me now," and the kind old face smoothed out as he spoke it. I discovered he had served years ago, in the Royal Marines Artillery, and on two ships had been servant to a surgeon. So I seized the opportunity, then and there, of redressing the mental injustice I had done him, and wrote hurried notes which he carries to some of my friends, not asking any favours, but merely to introduce Macdonald-- that is his name--Irish or Scotch, I do not know. It's all the same--he's a true Britisher. ------------------------------------------------ Historic Australian Newspapers, 1803 to 1954 http://ndpbeta.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home Aherns in Australian Records http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aherns/ahcrim.htm ------------------------------------------------

Hi Joanne, On the Early Pioneer index it states... St Matthews Presbyterian Church Windsor However I believe the Presbyterian religion is Scottish. So perhaps in short, it was just referred to as the 'Scots Church'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Scotland Robert - Beavis is spelt incorrectly on the index 'BAVEIS' Kind regards, Sherrie. -- http://www.silkweb.com.au/ On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:38:06 +1100, Joanne Flack <bell.bird@bigpond.com> wrote: > Hi Listers > > Can any one help solve this matter please? > > Would like to resolve the issue of where Robert Beavis and Elizabeth > Mackenzie were married - at Windsor, but the marriage cert says Scots > Church, however there was no Scots Church at that time. It was built > later. They were either married at the Anglican church St Matthew's, or > possibly in the Ebenezer Church, which was Presbyterian. > > Cheers > Joanne > -

On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 17:38:06 -0600, "Joanne Flack" <bell.bird@bigpond.com> wrote: >Hi Listers > >Can any one help solve this matter please? > >Would like to resolve the issue of where Robert Beavis and Elizabeth Mackenzie were married - at Windsor, but the marriage cert says Scots Church, however there was no Scots Church at that time. It was built later. They were either married at the Anglican church St Matthew's, or possibly in the Ebenezer Church, which was Presbyterian. > >Cheers >Joanne I can confirm that it wasn't at St Matthews C of E Windsor - at least it's not amongst the 20 marriages recorded in their Marriage register in 1840. Further you refer to a marriage certificate - where did this come from as I'm not seeing a Robert Beavis 1840 entry in the NSW Marriage index. -- Robert G. Eldridge Toronto NSW Australia http://www.eldridgegenealogy.org Now researching ELDRIDGE families world wide 1000s at my Web site *Wanted* Any Eldridge related information

In message <4aeeb9f9$0$1783$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> "Jenny Chester" <jennychester@bordernet.com.au> wrote: > Hi Graeme - here's another idea - given that Martha Lewis died on 20 April > 1870 and that 2 death notices appeared in the Mercury 3 months after her > death ie on 21 July 1870 and 11 August 1870, which is probably the length > of time it would take for word of her death to reach John in Tassie, I > wonder if she died in the UK at a place called Mewstone? Have you tried > to track her through the UK census records? cheers Jenny > That I hadn't thought of, the time lapse is certainly suggestive. It just seems a bit of a coincidence. The English equivalent is the Great Mew Stone off Plymouth in Devon. There's no Devon connection that I know of for the family. As to the censuses, I can't reliably identify a specific Martha Lewis, it's too common a name. A check on FreeBMD doesn't show a death for a woman of her age (she would have been 51) in England or Wales. -- Graeme Wall My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy/>

Had a look on the National Burial Index CDs for England & Wales and there was no-one who fitted the age or year. Still possible though

Hello listers, I am looking for any family of Arthur James PICKERING, b. Fiji, around 1925 and Shirley Lois SMITH, b. Sydney on 29.09.1929 and married in Balmain on 28.08.1952. Shirley's parents were Wilbur SMITH and Alice Elizabeth ROCK, Athur's family unknown. TIA. Judith.

Hi Graeme I checked out the death notice you refer to and see that Martha's brother John Kenrick Lewis was a surgeon of Hamilton on Forth. So I googled it and found that it is on the NW coast of Tassie and is the previous name for the current township of Forth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forth,_Tasmania Is it possible that Martha lived with her brother in a residence called Mewstone? See also the Forth Valley Online Access Centre http://www.tco.asn.au/oac/community_history.cgi?oacID=22 The History of Forth History details of Forth, or Hamilton on Forth as it was originally named, are available by visiting The Ulverstone Local History Museum. Click the following link to visit the website http://www.leven.tassie.net.au/ULHM/ Perhaps they will be able to help you with Mewstone and/or the Lewis brother and sister. Rushing out to a meeting Hope this helps Jenny Bruny Island TAS "Graeme" <Graeme@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:7b4193b350%Graeme@greywall.demon.co.uk... > In message > <b5aa7bde-43e2-4cec-aab9-6ec13fce2e9d@o9g2000prg.googlegroups.com> > Vivien <viric@bigpond.com> wrote: > >> On Nov 2, 5:32 am, Graeme <Gra...@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> > Was Mewstone, Tasmania ever inhabited? >> > >> > The reason I ask is I've come across a daeth notice for a Martha Lewis >> > in >> > the Hobart Mercury for 11th August 1870 giving that as her place of >> > death. >> >> Only by albatross! >> It's about 20 km off the southeast coast of Tasmania and is basically >> a rock rising steeply out of the sea. > > That's what I thought. > >> It sounds as though the death occurred on board ship while heading for >> Hobart. >> > > But I would have thouht the name of the ship would have been given as > place > of death in that case. > > The other thought that occurs is that it might have been the name of a > house > in Hobart. > > -- > Graeme Wall > > My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy/>

"Graeme" <Graeme@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:174a91b350%Graeme@greywall.demon.co.uk... > In message <7l68vcF3crobkU1@mid.individual.net> > "MargM" <genknut@exemail.com.au> wrote: > >> >> "Graeme" <Graeme@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:9d5580b350%Graeme@greywall.demon.co.uk... >> > Was Mewstone, Tasmania ever inhabited? >> > >> > The reason I ask is I've come across a daeth notice for a Martha >> > Lewis in the >> > Hobart Mercury for 11th August 1870 giving that as her place of >> > death. >> > >> > -- > > Might be a help to know her brother was John Kenrick Lewis, surgeon > of > Hobart. Graeme He died 26 Oct 1876 aged 57, Hobart see also : http://www.medicalpioneers.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?detail=1&id=1049 and left a will http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=9 ( indexed as Kevrich) I just checked the AUS AVR CDs which are combined early BDM records for VIC., TAS, NSW & WA . Only Martha LEWIS to d in 1870 was in Victoria , aged 40, dau of Benjamin BACKHOUSE and Sarah THOMPSON Looks like she was just missed ?? Or garbled indexing to blame ................ Was all hand written Bye -- MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast NSW

"Graeme" <Graeme@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:9d5580b350%Graeme@greywall.demon.co.uk... > Was Mewstone, Tasmania ever inhabited? > > The reason I ask is I've come across a daeth notice for a Martha > Lewis in the > Hobart Mercury for 11th August 1870 giving that as her place of > death. > > -- Hi Graeme Looks a bit suss ........... This persons death isnt in the TAS Pioneers CD ( BDMs to 1899) Maybe someone more local could enlighten ? Bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast NSW

Hi Kerry and Robert Many thanks for all your help. Les Tod for whom I was asking the question, has come up with the following, which supports you in that Scots Church was not completed until 1842: Sources: 1. (Exerpt from article, includes photograph) The Scots` Presbyterian Church in George Street, Windsor, opened in 1842 will go under the demolisher`s hammer this week. Rev C H Skerman, Presbyterian Minister, said on Monday that it was a sad day for Windsor Presbyterians, but the old church had no damp course and repeated attacks by white ants had made its demolition necessary. Rev Skerman said that the demolition was being done by Addon Demolition Co of North Richmond at no cost to the church. The last service was on March 12, 1966. Since then regular services have been held in the hall in the church grounds. Work was started on the building in 1839 and completed some time in 1842. The first minister was Rev Mathew Adam, who conducted a school and gave a number of young men in the Hawkesbury area their education. His students erected a memorial in the church after his death in 1863. In the notorious flood of 1867, the highest recorded to date, the water entered the church to a depth of two feet. Source: W & R Gazette (from 1888 to December 1982) Reference: 23 October 1968, p 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Notes: Located on the southern side of George Street, Windsor near the corner of Christie Street Cheers Joanne

On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 02:41:01 -0800 (PST), Trisha <apprentice_au@yahoo.com> wrote: > >Is there any way of blocking the sender of this lengthy, offensive hate-speech rubbish, which is totally off-the-planet,let alone off-topic. please? > >Trisha Sorry, but this is an unmoderated newsgroup. You therefor need to do your own message selection and delete what you don't want to download. -- Bob

In message <b5aa7bde-43e2-4cec-aab9-6ec13fce2e9d@o9g2000prg.googlegroups.com> Vivien <viric@bigpond.com> wrote: > On Nov 2, 5:32 am, Graeme <Gra...@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > Was Mewstone, Tasmania ever inhabited? > > > > The reason I ask is I've come across a daeth notice for a Martha Lewis in > > the Hobart Mercury for 11th August 1870 giving that as her place of > > death. > > Only by albatross! > It's about 20 km off the southeast coast of Tasmania and is basically > a rock rising steeply out of the sea. That's what I thought. > It sounds as though the death occurred on board ship while heading for > Hobart. > But I would have thouht the name of the ship would have been given as place of death in that case. The other thought that occurs is that it might have been the name of a house in Hobart. -- Graeme Wall My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy/>

Just with that probable index error and others, has anyone spoken to NSW BDM to correct a transcription error in their (internet) indexes and what was the result? Regards Brent R On Nov 2, 2:12 pm, "Sherrie Blackman" <silk...@tpg.com.au> wrote: > Hi Joanne, > >   Robert - Beavis is spelt incorrectly on the index 'BAVEIS' > > Kind regards, > Sherrie. > --http://www.silkweb.com.au/

In message <7l68vcF3crobkU1@mid.individual.net> "MargM" <genknut@exemail.com.au> wrote: > > "Graeme" <Graeme@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote in message > news:9d5580b350%Graeme@greywall.demon.co.uk... > > Was Mewstone, Tasmania ever inhabited? > > > > The reason I ask is I've come across a daeth notice for a Martha > > Lewis in the > > Hobart Mercury for 11th August 1870 giving that as her place of > > death. > > > > -- > Hi Graeme > > Looks a bit suss ........... This persons death isnt in the TAS > Pioneers CD ( BDMs to 1899) > > Maybe someone more local could enlighten ? > Might be a help to know her brother was John Kenrick Lewis, surgeon of Hobart. Both were born in Wrexham, Wales. -- Graeme Wall My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy/>

Hi Sherrie Thanks for your help and suggestions. As Elizabeth's family were Scots (Grono) it may have been at Ebenezer. The witness, Thomas Ardnell, son of an assistant surgeon on the 1st Fleet, was a member of the church at Ebenezer. Cheers Joanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherrie Blackman" <silkweb@tpg.com.au> To: "Joanne Flack" <bell.bird@bigpond.com>; <genanz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 9:12 PM Subject: Re: Marriage at Windsor - Robert Beavis and Elizabeth McKenzie 1840 > Hi Joanne, > > On the Early Pioneer index it states... > > St Matthews Presbyterian Church Windsor > > However I believe the Presbyterian religion is Scottish. > > So perhaps in short, it was just referred to as the 'Scots Church'. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Scotland > > > Robert - Beavis is spelt incorrectly on the index 'BAVEIS' > > > Kind regards, > Sherrie. > -- > http://www.silkweb.com.au/ > > > > On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:38:06 +1100, Joanne Flack <bell.bird@bigpond.com> > wrote: > >> Hi Listers >> >> Can any one help solve this matter please? >> >> Would like to resolve the issue of where Robert Beavis and Elizabeth >> Mackenzie were married - at Windsor, but the marriage cert says Scots

Hello Robert Spelling variation, I'm afraid. V1840510 123/1840 BAVEIS ROBERT MCKENZIE ELIZABETH JO and JO = Presbyterian St Matthews Windsor cheers Joanne

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Was Mewstone, Tasmania ever inhabited? The reason I ask is I've come across a daeth notice for a Martha Lewis in the Hobart Mercury for 11th August 1870 giving that as her place of death. -- Graeme Wall My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy/>