In message <4af34049$0$1782$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> "Jenny Chester" <jennychester@bordernet.com.au> wrote: > By the way, it appears that Martha's father George's death is also in the > Times Digital Archives of 3 March 1855. > Jenny Thanks again. -- Graeme Wall My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy/>

There is a Mentone in Victoria on Port Phillip Bay. Named after the resort town in the south of France.

In message <GxuIm.52277$ze1.41897@news-server.bigpond.net.au> "Adelon" <adelon@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > Hi Graeme > Came across this deceased person in the Pioneer Index for Victoria - not > sure if is of any use to you. > Adelina > Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 > > Surname: LEWIS > Given Names: Martha > Event: D > Spouse Surname/Father: Backhouse Benja > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Sarah THOMPSON > Age: 40 > Sex: > Birth Place: YORK > Death Place: > Year: 1870 > Reg Number: 7571 Thanks Adelina but my Martha was one of life's spinsters. -- Graeme Wall My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy/>

In message <4af20f18$0$6090$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> "Jenny Chester" <jennychester@bordernet.com.au> wrote: > Hi Graeme > > I've just been browsing through the death notices in the Times Digital > Archives for late April/early May and found the following entry on 6 May > 1870 "On the 29th April, at Mentone, Miss LEWIS, formerly of Claughton, > Birkenhead." > > Could this be your Martha? Could Mewstone in the Mercury be a > mistranscription for Mentone? On GoogleEarth I see that Claughton > Birkenhead is near Liverpool and in FreeBDMs the closest person in the > deaths is Lewis Martha 47 Liverpool 8b136 That sounds a likely explanation, thanks. Easy for a copywriter in Hobart to go for what appeared to be a local name. > > I can't find a place called Mentone in the UK on Google Earth. > Mentone is in the South of France I believe. It is a popular name for smaller hotels and guest houses in the UK apparently. Another sibling died in Lausanne in Switzerland so it is not unlikely that Martha had retired to sunnier climes. By that period of the 19th Century the French was a popular holidaying and retirement area for the middle classes so the Times could reasonably expect it's readers to know where it was without any further qualiication. Talking of 19th century middle classes if you lived in Birkenhead you had nothing to do with Liverpool. The former was in genteel Cheshire, the latter in dirty working class Lancashire. -- Graeme Wall My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy/>

Hi Graeme I've just been browsing through the death notices in the Times Digital Archives for late April/early May and found the following entry on 6 May 1870 "On the 29th April, at Mentone, Miss LEWIS, formerly of Claughton, Birkenhead." Could this be your Martha? Could Mewstone in the Mercury be a mistranscription for Mentone? On GoogleEarth I see that Claughton Birkenhead is near Liverpool and in FreeBDMs the closest person in the deaths is Lewis Martha 47 Liverpool 8b136 I can't find a place called Mentone in the UK on Google Earth. cheers Jenny Bruny Island TAS "Graeme" <Graeme@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:1f5ce7b350%Graeme@greywall.demon.co.uk... > In message <4aeeb9f9$0$1783$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> > "Jenny Chester" <jennychester@bordernet.com.au> wrote: > >> Hi Graeme - here's another idea - given that Martha Lewis died on 20 >> April >> 1870 and that 2 death notices appeared in the Mercury 3 months after her >> death ie on 21 July 1870 and 11 August 1870, which is probably the length >> of time it would take for word of her death to reach John in Tassie, I >> wonder if she died in the UK at a place called Mewstone? Have you tried >> to track her through the UK census records? cheers Jenny >> > > That I hadn't thought of, the time lapse is certainly suggestive. It just > seems a bit of a coincidence. The English equivalent is the Great Mew > Stone > off Plymouth in Devon. There's no Devon connection that I know of for the > family. > > As to the censuses, I can't reliably identify a specific Martha Lewis, > it's > too common a name. > > A check on FreeBMD doesn't show a death for a woman of her age (she would > have been 51) in England or Wales. > > -- > Graeme Wall > > My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy/>

Hi Graeme Came across this deceased person in the Pioneer Index for Victoria - not sure if is of any use to you. Adelina Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 Surname: LEWIS Given Names: Martha Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: Backhouse Benja Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Sarah THOMPSON Age: 40 Sex: Birth Place: YORK Death Place: Year: 1870 Reg Number: 7571 "Graeme" <Graeme@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:9d5580b350%Graeme@greywall.demon.co.uk... > Was Mewstone, Tasmania ever inhabited? > > The reason I ask is I've come across a daeth notice for a Martha Lewis in > the > Hobart Mercury for 11th August 1870 giving that as her place of death. > > -- > Graeme Wall > > My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy/> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENANZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Julie wrote: > On the Victorian (Australia) Pioneers Index there is the following death. > There are no details available but it is a possibility. > > Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 > > Surname: SIEVERS > Given Names: John > Event: D > Spouse Surname/Father: U > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: > Age: 39 > Sex: > Birth Place: LOND > Death Place: > Year: 1876 > Reg Number: 2462 > Denomination: > Parish: > Fiche: Thanks Julie, extremely well possible. Many thanks for giving it. Richard -- Richard van Schaik f.m.a.vanschaikREMOVE@THISziggo.nl http://www.fmavanschaik.nl/ Mail address changed repair to this on my site is being worked on

Hi, Got some data on this one and no one ever could enhance. It seems embarking in England setting for Australia and disembarking "along the road" as he disappeared. John Nicholas Sievers baptised 2-7-1837 Saint Dunstan, Stepney, London, England. "Seen" 9-9-1860 signing the marriage between Ronella Aldina Emma Sievers and Henry George Garner as witness (not stated as being brother, but on the other hand none else "to charge") St. Anne Limehouse, Stepney, Middlesex, England. Thereafter not found on the 1861 as yet, but (from this point as what I got) embarked the ship Caribbean heading for Australia in 1862. Never found as disembarked there, so possibly disembarked somewhere in between (or under a different name at where ever). Currently there is more available on internet so my hope is on more recent additions. Has any seen him where ever is the simple question. And to answer the kind of answer I could give to such a question .... please give me an indication as to where to search. Richard -- Richard van Schaik f.m.a.vanschaikREMOVE@THISziggo.nl http://www.fmavanschaik.nl/ Mail address changed repair to this on my site is being worked on

Hi Richard On the Victorian (Australia) Pioneers Index there is the following death. There are no details available but it is a possibility. Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 Surname: SIEVERS Given Names: John Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: U Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Age: 39 Sex: Birth Place: LOND Death Place: Year: 1876 Reg Number: 2462 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Julie Melbourne, Australia Ps. I had a look on the PROV Inward Passenger Lists but I can't find him Richard van Schaik wrote: > Hi, > > Got some data on this one and no one ever could enhance. It seems > embarking in England setting for Australia and disembarking "along the > road" as he disappeared. > > John Nicholas Sievers baptised 2-7-1837 Saint Dunstan, Stepney, London, > England. "Seen" 9-9-1860 signing the marriage between Ronella Aldina > Emma Sievers and Henry George Garner as witness (not stated as being > brother, but on the other hand none else "to charge") St. Anne > Limehouse, Stepney, Middlesex, England. Thereafter not found on the 1861 > as yet, but (from this point as what I got) embarked the ship Caribbean > heading for Australia in 1862. Never found as disembarked there, so > possibly disembarked somewhere in between (or under a different name at > where ever). > > Currently there is more available on internet so my hope is on more > recent additions. > > Has any seen him where ever is the simple question. And to answer the > kind of answer I could give to such a question .... please give me an > indication as to where to search. > > Richard >

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Graeme wrote: > In message <72727cfd-883c-4346-8b62-1aab3f16a04e@y10g2000prg.googlegroups.com> > Vivien <viric@bigpond.com> wrote: > >> On Nov 3, 12:17 am, Graeme <Gra...@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> As to the censuses, I can't reliably identify a specific Martha Lewis, it's >>> too common a name. >> Graeme: Another resource to check is the Deaths at Sea Index. >> Findmypast has the index for the time period you want. Unfortunately >> I don't have a current subscription for a lookup. >> If it was the Mewstone off Tasmania then her death *should* appear in >> this index. > > Good idea. > >> I should add that I've lived in Tasmania for 49 years and I can't ever >> recall a house by the name of Mewstone. > > It's not an unlikely name for a house in the area but could well have been > changed after she died. > >> However, I note that shipping reports in the local 19th century >> papers frequently mention ship sightings "off Mewstone", so it seems >> that it was a well known landmark - often the place of first sighting >> of a ship from England as it rounded the South East Cape heading for >> Hobart. >> > > I've been trying to find the island on Google Earth but it is not labelled. > Is it the small island south of Fort Direction? Or is it the bigger island to > the east? > Put -43.738 146.371 into Google Earth/Map. It will be the green arrow in Map. Paul

In message <1257242472.163303@chilli.pcug.org.au> Paul Blair <pblair@pcug.org.au> wrote: > Graeme wrote: [snip] > > > > I've been trying to find the island on Google Earth but it is not > > labelled. Is it the small island south of Fort Direction? Or is it the > > bigger island to the east? > > > > Put -43.738 146.371 into Google Earth/Map. It will be the green arrow in > Map. > Thanks Paul, I was hopelessly out. -- Graeme Wall My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy/>

In message <72727cfd-883c-4346-8b62-1aab3f16a04e@y10g2000prg.googlegroups.com> Vivien <viric@bigpond.com> wrote: > On Nov 3, 12:17 am, Graeme <Gra...@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > > As to the censuses, I can't reliably identify a specific Martha Lewis, it's > > too common a name. > > Graeme: Another resource to check is the Deaths at Sea Index. > Findmypast has the index for the time period you want. Unfortunately > I don't have a current subscription for a lookup. > If it was the Mewstone off Tasmania then her death *should* appear in > this index. Good idea. > > I should add that I've lived in Tasmania for 49 years and I can't ever > recall a house by the name of Mewstone. It's not an unlikely name for a house in the area but could well have been changed after she died. > However, I note that shipping reports in the local 19th century > papers frequently mention ship sightings "off Mewstone", so it seems > that it was a well known landmark - often the place of first sighting > of a ship from England as it rounded the South East Cape heading for > Hobart. > I've been trying to find the island on Google Earth but it is not labelled. Is it the small island south of Fort Direction? Or is it the bigger island to the east? -- Graeme Wall My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy/>

In message <a5d117b450%Graeme@greywall.demon.co.uk> Graeme <Graeme@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote: > In message <8302ae9e-2c60-4390-b1c7-72c58439e693@k4g2000vbl.googlegroups.com> > zanthia1967 <zanthia1967@yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > Had a look on the National Burial Index CDs for England & Wales and > > there was no-one who fitted the age or year. > > Still possible though > > Thanks for looking, I suspect it is going to remain a puzzle. I've now found the death of Martha and John's youngest brother, Matthew Heny Lewis. It was in Switzerland, the family got around a bit. So heaven knows where Martha had got to. -- Graeme Wall My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy/>

On Nov 3, 12:17 am, Graeme <Gra...@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote: > As to the censuses, I can't reliably identify a specific Martha Lewis, it's > too common a name. Graeme: Another resource to check is the Deaths at Sea Index. Findmypast has the index for the time period you want. Unfortunately I don't have a current subscription for a lookup. If it was the Mewstone off Tasmania then her death *should* appear in this index. I should add that I've lived in Tasmania for 49 years and I can't ever recall a house by the name of Mewstone. However, I note that shipping reports in the local 19th century papers frequently mention ship sightings "off Mewstone", so it seems that it was a well known landmark - often the place of first sighting of a ship from England as it rounded the South East Cape heading for Hobart. Vivien

In message <8302ae9e-2c60-4390-b1c7-72c58439e693@k4g2000vbl.googlegroups.com> zanthia1967 <zanthia1967@yahoo.com.au> wrote: > Had a look on the National Burial Index CDs for England & Wales and > there was no-one who fitted the age or year. > Still possible though Thanks for looking, I suspect it is going to remain a puzzle. -- Graeme Wall My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy/>

Hi Graeme - here's another idea - given that Martha Lewis died on 20 April 1870 and that 2 death notices appeared in the Mercury 3 months after her death ie on 21 July 1870 and 11 August 1870, which is probably the length of time it would take for word of her death to reach John in Tassie, I wonder if she died in the UK at a place called Mewstone? Have you tried to track her through the UK census records? cheers Jenny "Jenny Chester" <jennychester@bordernet.com.au> wrote in message news:4aee2e28$0$5419$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... > Hi Graeme > > I checked out the death notice you refer to and see that Martha's brother > John Kenrick Lewis was a surgeon of Hamilton on Forth. So I googled it > and found that it is on the NW coast of Tassie and is the previous name > for the current township of Forth > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forth,_Tasmania Is it possible that Martha > lived with her brother in a residence called Mewstone? > > See also the Forth Valley Online Access Centre > http://www.tco.asn.au/oac/community_history.cgi?oacID=22 > The History of Forth > History details of Forth, or Hamilton on Forth as it was originally named, > are available by visiting The Ulverstone Local History Museum. Click the > following link to visit the website http://www.leven.tassie.net.au/ULHM/ > Perhaps they will be able to help you with Mewstone and/or the Lewis > brother and sister. > > Rushing out to a meeting > > Hope this helps > > Jenny > Bruny Island TAS > > "Graeme" <Graeme@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote in message > news:7b4193b350%Graeme@greywall.demon.co.uk... >> In message >> <b5aa7bde-43e2-4cec-aab9-6ec13fce2e9d@o9g2000prg.googlegroups.com> >> Vivien <viric@bigpond.com> wrote: >> >>> On Nov 2, 5:32 am, Graeme <Gra...@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>> > Was Mewstone, Tasmania ever inhabited? >>> > >>> > The reason I ask is I've come across a daeth notice for a Martha Lewis >>> > in >>> > the Hobart Mercury for 11th August 1870 giving that as her place of >>> > death. >>> >>> Only by albatross! >>> It's about 20 km off the southeast coast of Tasmania and is basically >>> a rock rising steeply out of the sea. >> >> That's what I thought. >> >>> It sounds as though the death occurred on board ship while heading for >>> Hobart. >>> >> >> But I would have thouht the name of the ship would have been given as >> place >> of death in that case. >> >> The other thought that occurs is that it might have been the name of a >> house >> in Hobart. >> >> -- >> Graeme Wall >> >> My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy/> > >

Recent posts about marriages and Windsor, NSW prompts me to mention, for general information, that I have now finished editing the 4th and final volume of the Lake Macquarie Family History Group's series of publications transcribing the Parish registers of St Matthews C of E Windsor. The 4th volume covers 1951-2000 with more detail at; http://www.lmfhg.org.au/products.html -- Robert G Eldridge Vice President, Lake Macquarie FHG

On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:12:23 +1100, "Sherrie Blackman" <silkweb@tpg.com.au> wrote: > Robert - Beavis is spelt incorrectly on the index 'BAVEIS' Thanks Sherrie, I only had a quick look at the index. SURNAME BAVEIS GIVEN NAME(S) ROBERT SEX MALE INDEX YEAR 1840 SPOUSE SURNAME MCKENZIE SPOUSE GIVEN NAME(S) ELIZABETH SPOUSE SEX FEMALE DENOMINATION PRESBYTERIAN PARISH WINDSOR, ST MATTHEWS VOLUME REFERENCE V1840510 123 REGISTRATION YEAR 1840 It looks like Kerry has tracked down a reference, in saying; "Well, there is a book in the National Libary entitled: Scots' Presbyterian Church, Windsor, N.S.W., 1839-1967" I note, looking just at Marriages in the CD index, if you combine PRESBYTERIAN as a Demonination and WINDSOR, ST MATTHEWS as the Parish (as distinct from the Windsor, St Matthew's with an apostrophe) you get 364 results (suggesting abt 182 marriages) and these show an Index Year from 1814 (one only) and 1838-1862. -- Robert G. Eldridge Toronto NSW Australia http://www.eldridgegenealogy.org Now researching ELDRIDGE families world wide 1000s at my Web site *Wanted* Any Eldridge related information

Check out this: http://tinyurl.com/yjleml2 It tells you the history of things and confirms my theory about a congregation existing prior to a church building. It would seem that in 1840 the congregation was meeting in the courthouse [presumably in Windsor]. But note that marriages didn't have to happen in churches. Many people were married in private homes or in the manse of the church. So long as the Presbyterian minister presided, it will appear in the register. Kerry