On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:12:15 +1100, "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote: >"Noeline Mullins" <blossy09@tpg.com.au> wrote in message >> My cousin from Cornwall Emailed NSW to find a Soldier killed in France >> 1918 in the Australian Imperial Force: >> >> Charles Henry MATHEWS. Pte Nu 766 24th Batt AIF Born 1897,Cornwall, ACT >> pre >> 1930 Would anyone be able to advise me or have any info who I could trace >> this for my cuz. > >Records for the AIF are split between the Australian War memorial and the >National Australian Archives. You can buy the records online or do so by >mail and there is also a lot of info that can be seen online but it's still >best to pay for the records because not all useful and usable genie info is >online. > >http://www.awm.gov.au/ >Go to 'Biographical Databases' and enter the name and the conflict although >the only Charles Henry Mathews who died and who that appears there has a >different service number and battalion and the only person with the number >of 766 is a Charles Henry Matthew and again he wasn't from that battalion. >More research needed by the sounds of it to find the right person. > Noeline, Your man is listed with Number of 766A (not 766) and surname MATTHEW (not MATHEW). His Roll of Honour card is set ou below. Charles Henry Matthew Service number: 766A Rank: Private [Pte] Unit: 24th Battalion (Infantry) Service: Army Conflict: 1914-1918 Date of death: 15 June 1918 Cause of death: Killed in action Cemetery or memorial details: FRANCE 196 Ribemont Communal Cemetery Extension War Grave Register notes: MATTHEW, Pte. Charles Henry, 766A. 24th Bn. Australian Inf. Killed in action 15th June, 1918. Age 22. Son of Thomas John Matthews, of 2, Wood Lane, Constantine, Penryn, Cornwall, England. III. H. 9. Source: AWM145 Roll of Honour cards, 1914-1918 War, Army Regards, Fred Walter.

Hi Noeline, The National Archives has his service record online. It is under MATTHEW Charles Henry born Constantine England. The Commonwealth War Graves Commission has his listing as being buried at the Ribemont Communal Cemetery Extension, Somme Cheers Judy -----Original Message----- From: genanz-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:genanz-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Noeline Mullins Sent: Monday, 16 November 2009 9:30 AM To: Genanz-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Help please Hi everyone long time no hear. We have moved into a retirement Village and its great ,but moving has made me so tired and at last I have my computer and getting on board. A cuz of mine from Cornwall has just sent me a email with this info about a cousin of his and would luv to find out more info . My cousin from Cornwall Emailed NSW to find a Soldier killed in France 1918 in the Australian Imperial Force: Charles Henry MATHEWS. Pte Nu 766 24th Batt AIF Born 1897,Cornwall, ACT pre 1930 Would anyone be able to advise me or have any info who I could trace this for my cuz. Hoping someone would be able to help me here,I would really appreciate this. Regards, Noeline Kiwi in Brisbane. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENANZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

"Noeline Mullins" <blossy09@tpg.com.au> wrote in message > My cousin from Cornwall Emailed NSW to find a Soldier killed in France > 1918 in the Australian Imperial Force: > > Charles Henry MATHEWS. Pte Nu 766 24th Batt AIF Born 1897,Cornwall, ACT > pre > 1930 Would anyone be able to advise me or have any info who I could trace > this for my cuz. Records for the AIF are split between the Australian War memorial and the National Australian Archives. You can buy the records online or do so by mail and there is also a lot of info that can be seen online but it's still best to pay for the records because not all useful and usable genie info is online. http://www.awm.gov.au/ Go to 'Biographical Databases' and enter the name and the conflict although the only Charles Henry Mathews who died and who that appears there has a different service number and battalion and the only person with the number of 766 is a Charles Henry Matthew and again he wasn't from that battalion. More research needed by the sounds of it to find the right person.

"Michael A Lightfoot" <michael.lightfoot@pcug.org.au> wrote in message > MargM wrote: >> >> Its also good manners to sign off any message e.g Regards Jen from >> beautiful down town where ever >> > Oh dear. Do I have to sign my emails: > > "from really, really boring not really downtown Canberra"? LOL. We all have foibles. My foible is that I don't sign and I expect replies to be sent to where they are read ie: the list. Others have different foilbes such as wating a signature and repling direct by way of email to the asker. I think the latter habit of replying to 'on list' questions by email is very unhelpful given that any genie should know about the value of 'archives' included online archives. (unsigned and quite deliberately so)

Hayley wrote: > Hi There. I was wondering if anyone knows if the Ryerson Index is complete > or is being updated constantly. I have a death in 1981 which is not listed > on the index. Is is possible there could be a notice and it just has not > been listed yet?? Should I look anyway?? > > > > Many thanks > > Hayley > > Perth WA : D It depends on the location, Hayley. We have no volunteers in WA yet.:( You may be able to obtain your notice at the State Library. The Index is of newspaper notices only. To see how it works, have a look under the "About Us" link. If nobody put in a death notice, it won't be in the Index. This can happen with country papers that don't publish every day; I scanned the Mackay Qld papers for a fortnight, but there was no notice for a current death. The Ryerson Index is a volunteer effort. It started when Joyce Ryerson gave her collection of Sydney indexes to the NSW Dead Persons' Society. The bulk of its entries are still for the Sydney Morning Herald (about half the total) and the Sydney Daily Telegraph. With time, other papers have been added, and are still being added. In each case. we do current issues first, on a daily basis, and back issues as time permits. We are currently working hard at back-indexing to fill the gaps, but that depends on several things, mainly availability of the back issues, preferably at no cost, and availability of volunteers. As an example, I index the Bendigo Advertiser. That was first indexed in November 2005. As well as keeping it up to date, I am working backwards, one month at a time. September and October 2005 are now complete, and this afternoon, I will be at the local Library indexing more of August. I would like to be doing it more quickly, but my concentration lets me down. To find out whether we are indexing the paper you need, go to the "Newspaper Coverage" link. Choose your paper from the list, and you can navigate to a list of the dates we have indexed. A paper cannot be indexed unless somebody is sending it in. If your paper isn't listed, it is because nobody taking that paper is willing to donate a few minutes a day or week to send it in. The whole site is updated fortnightly on average. One man does all the co-ordinating and uploading of data, and recently, he has been receiving *over 250 updates a day* from his team. As a result, we have had to streamline our procedures at that point, but there should be no difference as far as users are concerned. That gives you an idea of the size of the operation. Without volunteers, it would fall to the ground. We need more volunteers. Training and indexing software are provided. If you are interested, there is a link on the site. The Index is an index only. There is a very limited service providing look- ups of notices indexed, but that is provided by volunteers as well. They do this for their hobby, and do not appreciate being abused for not having the details back the following day. Unfortunately, we do receive messages like that, occasionally. Please look at other options first, then follow the procedures under "Requesting a Lookup." I would be happy to answer any further queries. Doug Laidlaw, Committee Member, Ryerson Index Inc.

"Richard van Schaik" <f.m.a.vanschaikREMOVE@THISziggo.nl> wrote > Richard van Schaik wrote: >> I would like some links to publicly available data apart from links as >> via e.g. Cyndi's list (duplicates are no problem, will be edited). Is >> there some FAQ on this list or some other more general site pointing to >> other sites were information can be found (especially since about 1910). >> I'd like to add some data to my Kuiper branch (my mothers side) and know >> some did leave for New Zealand. Most I know is through my uncle (recently >> deceased) via his correspondence with the family. As the whole family >> might still be living I'd rather not put too many details on Usenet. >> >> Part of the problem is that I know there are as many rules to publicly >> available data on persons (recent and possibly living that is) as there >> are countries. I do not know yet what is available in Australia+NZ as to >> the more recent records. Any option to search is welcome. > > Pity none answered as yet. Searched a bit and came to seven deeds I would > like to check, but are they indeed $ 28 a piece ..... £ 7 in England is > already some huge mountain. Five a quarter is my max. At more than double > that amount for me its quitting this investigation (even though they are > closer to me than my English research). Hi Richard Most of us here would understand your frustration of searching long distance given that many of us also have to search in Europe for our antecendents. I have some doubts if the FAQ will be helpful as I suspect it's been years since it's been updated. The last time I read it was years ago when the newsgroup still received visits from Andrew Billinghurst who was the Administrator at that time and was known then as 'Boss Cockie'. There is also the complication that this list is not like the UK group where known names of the UK genie world post regularly because there is also in existence an 'invite only' forum where 'down under' experts congregate. However, if it is any help, the rootsweb reference to the FAQ is at: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/AUS/GENANZ.html however the link to the FAQ at Billinghurst's site is broken. I agree that the cost of certs/wills and other paraphenalia we genies want is high and decisions always have to be made. If I counted all the time I put into this hobby/interest against more useful things I could be doing, I'd give up tomorrow - I don't though because that way lies real madness. Perhaps it would be of help to we out here in cyberland if you were more specific in what you want? I assume your prime interest is NZ? Is it only NZ? What do you want found out? Possible names of births/offspring of your migrants to NZ? Sources of online Indexes to wills/Newspapers?????? What help exactly? I can understand your reticence to put out a query that may involve living people, but perhaps you might get some help if you ask for a volunteer who might be willing to look up Electoral Rolls/Phone books and then give them details of possible living people offline.

On 2009-11-16 9:19 AM, Michael A Lightfoot wrote: > MargM wrote: >> >> Its also good manners to sign off any message e.g Regards Jen from >> beautiful down town where ever >> > Oh dear. Do I have to sign my emails: > > "from really, really boring not really downtown Canberra"? > > :-) > No graphics allowed on this NG Ah terminology vs English language Back in main frame days I had a boss who had CAPS TURNED ON PERMANENTLY IN HIS EMAIL IMPOSSIBLE TO READ. Use of Upper and Lower does help understanding of text -- Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW - wonderful exciting Hills district (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/

MargM wrote: > > Its also good manners to sign off any message e.g Regards Jen from > beautiful down town where ever > Oh dear. Do I have to sign my emails: "from really, really boring not really downtown Canberra"? :-) -- ==== Michael Lightfoot Canberra, Australia OPC Merther & St Breock, Cornwall see http://www.cornwall-opc.org michael.lightfoot@pcug.org.au ====

"Vivien" <viric@bigpond.com> wrote in message news:192c12b1-e8e6-4a49-9e8d-09e1188915f2@t11g2000prh.googlegroups.com... On Nov 15, 5:19 pm, "Hayley" <ha...@e-wire.net.au> wrote: > My parents and grandparents always told me - if you can't say > something > nice then don't say anything at all........ Well, we could have a discussion about all the bad things which have happened because people were being "nice" instead of being honest, but that would be off topic. > Sorry just think this was an unnecessary reply I disagree. After 12 years of trawling through these messages I think it could be the most helpful reply the original poster receives. Because, if people have to read a message 5 or 6 times to work out what the poster is trying to say, they just give up - they're too busy. Punctuation and spelling and grammar aren't optional extras - they are necessary to make your meaning clear. It's just a matter of good manners: if you ask for help, please >assist the helpers to help! Hi Vivien I agree with your comments. Any text should be typed properly with punctuation, using caps were normal to do so and to please type surnames only in all cap . Typed thus makes for easier reading off a computer screen I scanned that first message and couldnt be bothered to try to read it ,so didnt . Punctuation wasnt throw in as an after thought when the language was evolving Its also good manners to sign off any message e.g Regards Jen from beautiful down town where ever Any one replying can do so to Hi Jen from beautiful down town where ever Bye -- MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast NSW

Hi everyone long time no hear. We have moved into a retirement Village and its great ,but moving has made me so tired and at last I have my computer and getting on board. A cuz of mine from Cornwall has just sent me a email with this info about a cousin of his and would luv to find out more info . My cousin from Cornwall Emailed NSW to find a Soldier killed in France 1918 in the Australian Imperial Force: Charles Henry MATHEWS. Pte Nu 766 24th Batt AIF Born 1897,Cornwall, ACT pre 1930 Would anyone be able to advise me or have any info who I could trace this for my cuz. Hoping someone would be able to help me here,I would really appreciate this. Regards, Noeline Kiwi in Brisbane.

Photo of grave is available from http://twgpp.org/information.php?id=1814799 Pete -----Original Message----- "Noeline Mullins" <blossy09@tpg.com.au> wrote in message > My cousin from Cornwall Emailed NSW to find a Soldier killed in France > 1918 in the Australian Imperial Force: > > Charles Henry MATHEWS. Pte Nu 766 24th Batt AIF Born 1897,Cornwall, ACT > pre > 1930 Would anyone be able to advise me or have any info who I could trace > this for my cuz.

FarmI wrote: > Most of us here would understand your frustration of searching long distance > given that many of us also have to search in Europe for our antecendents. > > I have some doubts if the FAQ will be helpful as I suspect it's been years > since it's been updated. > > The last time I read it was years ago when the newsgroup still received > visits from Andrew Billinghurst who was the Administrator at that time and > was known then as 'Boss Cockie'. There is also the complication that this > list is not like the UK group where known names of the UK genie world post > regularly because there is also in existence an 'invite only' forum where > 'down under' experts congregate. > > However, if it is any help, the rootsweb reference to the FAQ is at: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/AUS/GENANZ.html > however the link to the FAQ at Billinghurst's site is broken. > > I agree that the cost of certs/wills and other paraphenalia we genies want > is high and decisions always have to be made. If I counted all the time I > put into this hobby/interest against more useful things I could be doing, > I'd give up tomorrow - I don't though because that way lies real madness. > > Perhaps it would be of help to we out here in cyberland if you were more > specific in what you want? I assume your prime interest is NZ? Is it only > NZ? What do you want found out? Possible names of births/offspring of your > migrants to NZ? Sources of online Indexes to wills/Newspapers?????? What > help exactly? > > I can understand your reticence to put out a query that may involve living > people, but perhaps you might get some help if you ask for a volunteer who > might be willing to look up Electoral Rolls/Phone books and then give them > details of possible living people offline. Thank for the link, will read it tomorrow. I tried already a bit on newspapers (saw some link passing in one of the posts) but not extensively enough yet. Its indeed NZ where this family went to and last known address is 13 years old (correspondence of my late uncle with them). I'm trying among others to fill in data on the surnames of my 4 grandparents working from the oldest known back to the present. This is the Kuiper branch (surname of my mother). Data I thus far have are just the names of the parents and three children and some about the education the father got. Any offline help would appreciated very much. Richard -- Richard van Schaik f.m.a.vanschaikREMOVE@THISziggo.nl http://www.fmavanschaik.nl/ Mail address changed repair to this on my site is being worked on

Hi Alice, Unfortunately no census here to verify his arrival. Have you had a look at Victorian Records http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/default.htm National Archives of Australia http://www.naa.gov.au/ has from Name search This is a digital copy, which is free to view Title Rosenthal, David; Feldheim, Hayman - Naturalisation Series number Control symbol Contents date range A712 S1855/12259 1855 - 1855 Access status Location Barcode The following has newspaper articles, loads of articles re name 'Rosenthal' http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home Hope this will help. Regards, Lynne "Alice Norton" <bdaenorton@gmail.com> wrote in message news:mailman.121.1258272525.2037.genanz@rootsweb.com... Hi to the List... .I was sent this from a friend in Canada and I do not know the answers for her...Is there someone that can help her and me PLEASE.... I have a question regarding this family. Is there a census for the year, 1862? Aaron Rosenthal, born in 1838-04-07 in Prussia (or also known as Poland Russia). He left home when he was 13. My feeling is that he came to Australia with his brothers but I have no census to prove this. In 1870, the family lived at 192 Victoria-parade E.M in East Melbourne, Australia. Listed in the Melbourne, Australia Directory for 1870 as follows: Rosenthal, Aaron (of Feldheim, Jacobs, and Co.), 192 Victoria-parade, E.M. Under “Feldheim,” the company is listed as tobacco merchants and general importers, 48 Queen St., with Aaron Rosenthal listed as one of the proprietors. Also listed is: Rosenthal, David, wholesale, jeweller and importer, 15 Little Collins-street west, p.r. Alma-street east, St. Kilda, Australia Other Rosenthals listed are: Isidore, Jacob, Julius, Samuel. I am wondering if these are his older brothers and he would have travelled to Australia with them and learned the trade of jewellery as he eventually came to Canada and started his own jeweller store. Can you help me with this connection? I need to find a connection with these other men. I did find Aaron Rosenthal's marriage to Bertha Lehmann at the house of H.Feldheim in Melbourne. I would love to find some connection with this family and I understand that you have a wealth of references that I cannot find on the internet. I would really appreciate any help. I look forward to hearing from you again. Thanks in advance,

Hi Dianne, Have a look at the following site http://www.archives.tas.gov.au/ Regards, Lynne "Dianne" <di22@bigpond.com> wrote in message news:CMILm.54973$ze1.3882@news-server.bigpond.net.au... > Hi to all, can you please help me find this family. > > Agnes CAIRNS was born circa 1818 at Kilmarnock Ayr in Scotland. > > Agnes arrived in Tasmania when she was about eleven years old with her > mother who was a convict. Her parents were Michael and Elizabeth Cairns > (nee > Merry) > > Unfortunately this is all I have to go on so any suggestions would be > appreciated. Thanks, Dianne > > >

Hi His records are online at NAA - all WW1 records are now online Title MATTHEWS Charles Henry : Service Number - 4663 : Place of Birth - Devonport England : Place of Enlistment - Casula NSW : Next of Kin - (Friend) KENNEDY J V Series number B2455 Control symbol MATTHEWS CHARLES HENRY Contents date range 1914 - 1920 Access status Open Location Canberra Barcode 8013197 View digital copy There are 25 pages which you can download - no need to bou them. cheers Joanne At Sunny Wyee NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny McCarthy" <bardensbay@exemail.com.au> To: "Noeline Mullins" <blossy09@tpg.com.au>; <Genanz-

If one goes to Wikipedia and looks up the town of St. Albans NSW one will find information about a Wesleyan (Methodist?) mission which existed there in the early days. I suspect this is the mission the enquirer was interested in so hope they read this. I think St.Albans in on the Macondald river which flows into the Hawkesbury river. Valerie ----- Original Message ----- From: "MargM" <genknut@exemail.com.au> To: <genanz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 9:31 PM Subject: Re: MacDonald River Mission NSW Australia > > "Marlin1945" <holmanrob@westnet.com.au> wrote in message > news:5475c2fc-c7aa-4360-9fbf-83e5a3bb9c65@f18g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > On Nov 13, 9:46 am, "MargM" <genk...@exemail.com.au> wrote: >> "Marlin1945" <holman...@westnet.com.au> wrote in message >> >> >> > Help please. >> > Can anyone tell me about the MacDonald River Mission NSW >> > Australia. >> > One of my rels was born there. >> > Thelma Agnes "Mardi" THOMPSON born 02 Nov 1907 married Joseph MEEKS > 03 Jun 1936 Windsor NSW. > Parents Aaron Pearson THOMPSON & Agnes PRESTON both born "Central > Macdonald" & lived @ Windsor NSW. > Hi Marlin > > Think there would be a few more than just one rellie of yours born > there . Cant find any ref to any actual Macdonald River Mission > > Matthew Pearson THOMPSONs has been claimed twice > http://www.claimaconvict.net/page2.html > > This family is mentioned a few times in M HUTTON NEVEs book ' > Forgotton Valley' . This was written over 30 years ago . > No copies on http://www.booksandcollectibles.com.au/ at the moment > > > Bye > > -- > MargM > Beautiful Wyong Shire > NSW > > > >

Hi to the List... .I was sent this from a friend in Canada and I do not know the answers for her...Is there someone that can help her and me PLEASE.... I have a question regarding this family. Is there a census for the year, 1862? Aaron Rosenthal, born in 1838-04-07 in Prussia (or also known as Poland Russia). He left home when he was 13. My feeling is that he came to Australia with his brothers but I have no census to prove this. In 1870, the family lived at 192 Victoria-parade E.M in East Melbourne, Australia. Listed in the Melbourne, Australia Directory for 1870 as follows: Rosenthal, Aaron (of Feldheim, Jacobs, and Co.), 192 Victoria-parade, E.M. Under “Feldheim,” the company is listed as tobacco merchants and general importers, 48 Queen St., with Aaron Rosenthal listed as one of the proprietors. Also listed is: Rosenthal, David, wholesale, jeweller and importer, 15 Little Collins-street west, p.r. Alma-street east, St. Kilda, Australia Other Rosenthals listed are: Isidore, Jacob, Julius, Samuel. I am wondering if these are his older brothers and he would have travelled to Australia with them and learned the trade of jewellery as he eventually came to Canada and started his own jeweller store. Can you help me with this connection? I need to find a connection with these other men. I did find Aaron Rosenthal's marriage to Bertha Lehmann at the house of H.Feldheim in Melbourne. I would love to find some connection with this family and I understand that you have a wealth of references that I cannot find on the internet. I would really appreciate any help. I look forward to hearing from you again. Thanks in advance, Have a nice day and take care Alice part of http://oysterfisher.tribalpages.com http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nicholls/

On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:25:06 GMT, "jen" <jgil6052@bigpond.net.au> wrote: >hi >am new to this group would be pleased with some help >i have charles william smith born redfern nsw 17 july 1870 was married- >assuming in nsw -(unsure) they had 3 children charles william born abt 1891 >john august born 1892 margaret ann born 1895 - according to second >marraige to alma marie rossau in 1907 it states in certificate that >first wife passed away in 1900 > It's unclear as to what help you're seeking. If you are seeking the marriage place for Charles William Smith's first marriage then this should be shown on the birth certificates of his children to his first wife. I can suggest finding the shift key and using it along with some punctation. -- Bob

Hello Elaine Thank you for your assistance. Charles was single when he died. Charles was the son of Thomas Moore Musgrave who was the Postmaster General. http://musgravemanor.com/Postmaster.html Extracts from article on above URL: 9 Sept 1854 Musgrave buried in Bath Abbey Cemetery. (Approx. 6 plots from his close friend Rev. Edward Tottenham, d. 1853). Tottenham was Priest of the Laura Chapel Trust in which Musgrave may have been an appointed trustee. Musgrave, Section '6', Row 'C', Plot 5-6. Additional transcript on gravestone: "and his son Charles Musgrave who died in Melbourne, August 1864, aged 30" The Obituary only refers to "the amiable daughter of the deceased" and Death Certificate of Charles Musgrave; "Died in a Melbourne Hospital. Certificate states age as '28'. Born in Bath, England, dwelt 11 years in Melbourne, Victoria. Parents: Unknown. Unmarried, Profession: Teacher. Cause/death: Paralysis Debility." Is there a method of gaining any further information regarding these passports, please? Cheers Joanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elaine Rogers" <alelaine@tpg.com.au> To: "Joanne Flack" <bell.bird@bigpond.com> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 6:27 PM Subject: Re: Charles MUSGRAVE died Melbourne 1864 > Joanne, A Charles B Musgrave, passport number 6200,5 July 1851. > C.B. Musgrave, passport number 306,5 April 1852. > Charles B Musgrave,passport number 4105,20 July 1853 > > A Charles Musgrave married in NSW a Mary A Corry,1855. Number > V1855708/1855. Just a thought. This would be a parish record. The first > passport names are from the applications for passport found on Find My > Past. Regards Elaine >

You are looking at the time of the Gold Rush. A lot of sailors just deserted and the immigration department suffered from short-handedness too. Records about that time are pretty chaotic. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joanne Flack" <bell.bird@bigpond.com> To: <genanz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 3:35 PM Subject: Charles MUSGRAVE died Melbourne 1864 > Hi Listers > > To help a friend in England I wonder if there is anyone out there who > could further her resarch: > > "I wonder if you would be able to help me re research in Australia in > respect of a CHARLES MUSGRAVE who was born in Bath circa 1834. He > migrated to Australia circa 1853 and died in Melbourne Hospital on the > 17th September 1864 from 'Paralysis Debility'. His profession - a > teacher and he was unmarried. Parents names not given on his death > certificate. (We know that the father was THOMAS MOORE MUSGRAVE and his > mother was MARY whose surname we have not yet confirmed) > > I've tried to see if I could find him arriving in Australia as a passenger > circa 1853, but cannot find anything about him. I wonder if he travelled > there as a sailor on a ship and then he stayed when the ship docked. Was > everyone listed on arrival, including members of ships?" > > I have checked Victorian and NSW immigration records online and Ancestry > but no luck either. > > Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Cheers > Joanne > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENANZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >