"Kathy Pearson" <kathypea@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message news:mailman.186.1258425801.2037.genanz@rootsweb.com... Hi Kathy >Does anyone have access to the Biographical Index of South Australians? Not at home I dont I am trying to find out the names of the parents of Thomas PRETTY, who with wife Mary nee SPOONER and ten children arrived in >Adelaide on board the Success on 28 January 1848. Did they stay in SA ??? The SA marriages CD 1842 -1916 lists parents names and are no SA marriages of anyone , child of Thomas & Mary . I would like to know if he was a son of John and Mary (nee HACKETT) PRETTY of Poole in Dorset, and therefore a brother of my great great grandmother Anne Taylor WALKER nee PRETTY, who also arrived in Australia in that year but settled in NSW. > > If parents' names are not listed in the Biog. Index, can anyone > suggest alternative sources to research? I have tried familysearch, > but cannot find Thomas' birth. I cant find a Thomas PRETTY who fits your criteria in the UK 1841 census ??? Where were their kids born ? Maybe parents married in the same place ?? How do you know Marys maiden name was SPOONER ? You can get transcriptions of SA BDMs from the SA FHS for alot less the SA Registry charge There maybe info on his death record that not in the index ?? SA newspapers not on line yet for 1872 As an after thought I just checked in genesreunited .......... Are a few Thomas PRETTYs inc 2 born Poole ?? Bye -- MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast NSW

Hello.....?? Normally, I would not reply to you simply because I do not know who to address, however, on this occasion I am replying just to explain why a name is important and a signature, of some kind, at the end of an email is useful. Providing your name is simply a way of expressing goodwill and courtesy, and surely these are important beginnings when asking someone to give of their own time to help you do something or find something. Something akin to shaking hands, smiling and introducing yourself when face to face with someone, or addressing and signing a letter. You are certainly entitled to withhold your whereabouts if you so choose, but on email lists, without some indication of the GENERAL location in which you reside (no need to be specific or descriptive about the area) your proximity to various records and repositories is unknown, e.g., you may be somewhere in England, Germany, South Africa or even Australia, and this can affect my reply to you. If you requested assistance of some kind via a mailing list, and you are residing in South Africa, it would not be useful for me to suggest the record you require is available by visiting the NSW State Records Office (archives) however, if I knew you were not able to take a short drive to that repository, I may be able to suggest alternative means to obtain the record locally or perhaps by applying online to that office and providing you with the contact details. Many listers offer to obtain documents, often at no cost and usually just for photocopying and postage, if they are aware the person requesting assistance is remote from the repository. Re replying to the individual rather than the list....this is often because the person replying does not want their email address to made "public" for some reason, or they may be offering to assist in some way and do not wish to "go public" because they could be inundated with similar requests. For whatever reason, this is once again an option entirely up to them, but at least they have paid you the courtesy of replying to your enquiry. One last point: you said any genie is aware of the value of archives, including those for Mailing Lists, and I most certainly agree with that. We are also aware that in order to receive information, we have to show we are willing to share information. Unfortunately, your archived emails will show your reluctance to share even your name and general locality, and that may not inspire many people to contact you. 'Bye for now Lynne Fiddick =============================== Central Coast, NSW, AUSTRALIA =============================== -----Original Message----- From: FarmI [mailto:ask@itshall be given] Sent: Monday, 16 November 2009 10:54 AM To: genanz@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: nsw bdm- message format We all have foibles. My foible is that I don't sign and I expect replies to be sent to where they are read ie: the list. Others have different foilbes such as wating a signature and repling direct by way of email to the asker. I think the latter habit of replying to 'on list' questions by email is very unhelpful given that any genie should know about the value of 'archives' included online archives. (unsigned and quite deliberately so)

Hi Joanne, No Marriage found in Vic. records There is the following marriage in SA Groom: NADIN Given names: Peter Bride: MAUGHAN Given names: Margaret Elizabeth Date: 1878-10-08 Groom Age: 41 Status: S Groom's Father: Matthew NADIN Bride Age: 30 Status: S Bride's Father: Benjamin MAUGHAN Place: Registry Office Adelaide District: Ade Book/Page: 117/46 Surname: NADEN Given Names: Peter Date: 1885-02-09 Sex: M Age: 46y Status: N Relative: (not recorded) Relative 2: Residence: Adelaide Death Place: Adelaide District Code: Ade Symbol: S Book: 144 Page: 84 No births found in SA Peter Nadin Departed, London arrived, Freemantle 13/05/1864 Ship, Clara Remarks, convict No. 7803, Acc128/1-43 (Accession No. held at WA State Records Office) Newspapers NLA Beta (not sure if this is the same Peter Nadin) http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/2977165?searchTerm=Nadin%2C+Peter Kind regards, Lynne "Joanne Flack" <bell.bird@bigpond.com> wrote in message news:mailman.178.1258410604.2037.genanz@rootsweb.com... Hi All This is a copy of an email I sent many years ago: "Convict Peter Nadin "Clara" 1864 to WA , received his ticket of leave on 1 July 1865 and his certificate of freedom on 10 March 1869. He left Western Australia for South Australia on 10 October 1876. Cannot find a marriage for him in either WA or SA, but a kind Lister to this list obtained information re his death in 1885 at the Adelaide Destitute Asylum , as follows: How Long in Colony: Aust. 12 years - Sth. Aust. 1882 (which does not tie up with arriving in 1864 but some convicts covered their tracks) Relatives in Colony: Wife left him and gone to Melbourne (So could he have married in Melbourne as his wife had returned there?) If he did not go to SA but to Vistoria and there married could someone do a Marriage Look-Up for Peter from 1876 to 1882 please? Other details on the Asylum entries tie up - his age, occupation." There was help from a Lister to say no marriage in Victoria. Could SKS who has access kindly do a search for WA and SA, please. I have been contacted by a relative of Peter, who lives in England, and he would like to know if there were any children from the marriage/ Best regards Joanne at Wyee NSW

Hello Jewelly. Yes, I go to the library once a month where I do look ups in the NSW papers on film. I agree we have a lot of valuable information. Much of my genealogy research was done there when I first started. The Ryersons index is a great source which helps me find the actual dates of the dead so I can hopefully find Relatives and add to my tree when look up funeral or death notices. I have found that the index is being Updated all the time and I will look now regardless. I now know that there are notices that have not been Recorded in the index but are listed in the paper. Many thanks Hayley -------Original Message------- From: Jewelly Date: 17/11/2009 7:55:44 AM To: genanz@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: The Ryerson Index - other West Aust. resources to try Hi Hayley The Battye Library in the State Library of WA Building holds west australian resources.. They have much valuable information. and a visit to thier premises in the city holds lots more than can be accessed online at this point in time. www.slwa.wa.gov.au/ - Liswa link alternatively another resource for WA is the Dead Persons Society, they may also be able to help with your research. http://members.iinet.net.au/~perthdps/default.html cheers Jewelly West Oz Shift your problems to challenges. When you have problems, you worry about them. When you have challenges - you are working, applying, and attacking your plan to get results. This shift in thinking from problems to challenges is important in making tension an asset. --- On Mon, 16/11/09, Hayley <hales@e-wire.net.au> wrote: Hayley wrote: > Hi There. I was wondering if anyone knows if the Ryerson Index is complete > or is being updated constantly. I have a death in 1981 which is not listed > on the index. Is is possible there could be a notice and it just has not > been listed yet?? Should I look anyway?? > > > > Many thanks > > Hayley > > Perth WA : D _____________________________________________________________________________ ____ Get more done like never before with Yahoo!7 Mail. Learn more: http://au.overview.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENANZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Joanne. Here is a link if ever you need info on WA marriages again. Http://WWW.wamarriage.info/ There is also a link to our births and deaths on the same page. I have looked up your request but nothing is listed. Hope you find something, I know how frustrating it can be. Spelling errors were sometimes an issue with transcriptions, maybe you need to try all sorts of different spellings. Cheers Hayley : D -------Original Message------- From: Joanne Flack Date: 11/17/09 06:37:45 To: genanz@rootsweb.com Subject: Peter NADIN, convict on the "Clara" 1864 to WA, marriage details Hi All This is a copy of an email I sent many years ago: "Convict Peter Nadin "Clara" 1864 to WA , received his ticket of leave on 1 July 1865 and his certificate of freedom on 10 March 1869. He left Western Australia for South Australia on 10 October 1876. Cannot find a marriage for him in either WA or SA, but a kind Lister to this list obtained information re his death in 1885 at the Adelaide Destitute Asylum , as follows: How Long in Colony: Aust. 12 years - Sth. Aust. 1882 (which does not tie up with arriving in 1864 but some convicts covered their tracks) Relatives in Colony: Wife left him and gone to Melbourne (So could he have married in Melbourne as his wife had returned there?) If he did not go to SA but to Vistoria and there married could someone do a Marriage Look-Up for Peter from 1876 to 1882 please? Other details on the Asylum entries tie up - his age, occupation." There was help from a Lister to say no marriage in Victoria. Could SKS who has access kindly do a search for WA and SA, please. I have been contacted by a relative of Peter, who lives in England, and he would like to know if there were any children from the marriage/ Best regards Joanne at Wyee NSW ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENANZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Haley, Jenny and Lynne Thanks one and all for your wonderful help. Dave Naden in England would like to say "thank you" too. Now to find a little of Mrs Nadin. cheers Joanne ----- Original Message ----- From: Hayley To: genanz@rootsweb.com ; Joanne Flack Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 5:55 PM Subject: Re: Peter NADIN, convict on the "Clara" 1864 to WA, marriage details Hi Joanne. Here is a link if ever you need info on WA marriages again. Http://WWW.wamarriage.info/ There is also a link to our Hi All ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENANZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Members Please if someone asks you for information its because they are trying to help, sometimes an outside source can find new information that has slipped by you as they have a greater or different knowledge base to draw on..or know someone who can access that knowledge base for them :o) All members on this list and many others offer their time and services in the interest of serving the greater community at no cost to the requestor. Just like in real life things get confused and tones are taken the wrong way, being no body language to read on list and typing sentence is inadequate in many cases as to how the person feels.. can (and does) lead to people getting upset when none was intended.. Please read all posts as neutral, we are not here to take one another to bits for misinformation but to help all in their passion of searching for their ancestors and sifting through the many resources now available online, microfiche, books, and any other resource that may become useful in our quest for more knowledge of the past history of our extended family members. cheers Jewelly Western Australia Shift your problems to challenges.  When you have problems, you worry about them.  When you have challenges - you are working, applying, and attacking your plan to get results. This shift in thinking from problems to challenges is important in making tension an asset. --- On Tue, 17/11/09, Kathy Pearson <kathypea@yahoo.com.au> wrote: --- On Tue, 17/11/09, Kiss My Art Design Studio <indash@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > From: Kiss My Art Design Studio <indash@optusnet.com.au> > Subject: RE: Thomas PRETTY - South Australia look-up please > To: "'Kathy Pearson'" <kathypea@yahoo.com.au> > Received: Tuesday, 17 November, 2009, 4:15 PM nanz-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Kathy Pearson > > MargM > Subject: Re: Thomas PRETTY - South Australia look-up > please > > MargM, you have just confirmed my reasons for hardly ever > using this list > any more. > 1. Did I ask you specifically if you had the biogs at > home? > 2. The reference to his children's non-recorded marriages > in SA does not > answer my questions. > 3. My enquiry said he and his wife and children arrived in > 1848. Obviously > they were already married/born elsewhere! > 4. Just because _you_ can't find him in the 1841 census > doesn't mean he > didn't exist, does it? > 5. Why should someone requesting specific information have > to document > evidence of the few facts that are already known? > > Kathy > __________________________________________________________________________________ Win 1 of 4 Sony home entertainment packs thanks to Yahoo!7. Enter now: http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/

Thank you, Sharon, that's great! Best wishes, Kathy --- On Tue, 17/11/09, Kiss My Art Design Studio <indash@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > From: Kiss My Art Design Studio <indash@optusnet.com.au> > Subject: RE: Thomas PRETTY - South Australia look-up please > To: "'Kathy Pearson'" <kathypea@yahoo.com.au> > Received: Tuesday, 17 November, 2009, 4:15 PM > Kathy > > I've attached a PDF of the 1841 UK Census record for Thomas > Pretty - seems > he lied about his age -_- > > If you need any more census look ups, let me know. > > Best wishes > Sharon > Sydney, Australia > > > -----Original Message----- > From: genanz-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:genanz-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Kathy Pearson > Sent: Tuesday, 17 November 2009 15:19 > To: genanz@rootsweb.com; > MargM > Subject: Re: Thomas PRETTY - South Australia look-up > please > > MargM, you have just confirmed my reasons for hardly ever > using this list > any more. > 1. Did I ask you specifically if you had the biogs at > home? > 2. The reference to his children's non-recorded marriages > in SA does not > answer my questions. > 3. My enquiry said he and his wife and children arrived in > 1848. Obviously > they were already married/born elsewhere! > 4. Just because _you_ can't find him in the 1841 census > doesn't mean he > didn't exist, does it? > 5. Why should someone requesting specific information have > to document > evidence of the few facts that are already known? > > Kathy > __________________________________________________________________________________ Win 1 of 4 Sony home entertainment packs thanks to Yahoo!7. Enter now: http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/

Thanks, Janet - nice to see someone wanting to be helpful instead of carping. Yes, I had seen the familysearch entry. I'm actually trying to help a descendant of that family try to establish whether that one is linked to mine from Poole, and so far can't find a connection, which needs to be a generation further back than the ones who came to Australia. Thanks for the offer of further info on the son, but at this stage I'd say not to bother as I really feel it is a different group. Thanks again, Kathy --- On Tue, 17/11/09, Janet <jmartin17@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > From: Janet <jmartin17@optusnet.com.au> > Subject: Re: Thomas PRETTY - South Australia look-up please > To: "Kathy Pearson" <kathypea@yahoo.com.au> > Received: Tuesday, 17 November, 2009, 3:38 PM > Hello Kathy, > > The S.A. Death records do not have either parent for Thomas > PRETTY, but if you go on the LDS site www.familysearch.org > you will find that someone else is researching the same > family (from Qld). > > PRETTY  Thomas - born 27.8.1801 Islington, London, > England - died 22 Sept 1873 North Adelaide - buried > Walkerville SA.  Arrived 1848 on "Success" - > occupations:  Contractor, Salesman, Watercarrier, > Carter - residence: Nth Adelaide > married 13 Sept 1825 Old Church, Saint Pancras, London to > Mary SPOONER - born 1801 Edmonton, Middlesex, England - died > 30 Aug 1879 Nth Adelaide > children:- > Thomas William (1826 - 1866) > Hannah (1828 - 1849) > George Henry (1830 - > Emily DODD (1835 - 1914) > Amelia MACDONALD (1837 - 1859) > Samuel Edwin (1838 - > Eliza Ann FLIGHT,  WILLIAMS  (1840 - 1924) > John James (1841 - 1909) > Mary Ann Eliz HERBERT (1844 - 1919) > > There is further information on John James PRETTY if you > want it. > > Cheers > Janet > __________________________________________________________________________________ Win 1 of 4 Sony home entertainment packs thanks to Yahoo!7. Enter now: http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/

MargM, you have just confirmed my reasons for hardly ever using this list any more. 1. Did I ask you specifically if you had the biogs at home? 2. The reference to his children's non-recorded marriages in SA does not answer my questions. 3. My enquiry said he and his wife and children arrived in 1848. Obviously they were already married/born elsewhere! 4. Just because _you_ can't find him in the 1841 census doesn't mean he didn't exist, does it? 5. Why should someone requesting specific information have to document evidence of the few facts that are already known? Kathy --- On Tue, 17/11/09, MargM <genknut@exemail.com.au> wrote: > From: MargM <genknut@exemail.com.au> > Subject: Re: Thomas PRETTY - South Australia look-up please > To: genanz@rootsweb.com > Received: Tuesday, 17 November, 2009, 2:27 PM > > "Kathy Pearson" <kathypea@yahoo.com.au> > wrote in message > news:mailman.186.1258425801.2037.genanz@rootsweb.com... > > Hi Kathy > > >Does anyone have access to the Biographical Index of > South > Australians? > > > > Not at home I dont > > > I am trying to find out the names of the parents of Thomas > PRETTY, > who with wife Mary nee SPOONER and ten children arrived in > >Adelaide > on board the Success on 28 January 1848. > > Did they stay in SA ???   The SA marriages > CD   1842 -1916 lists > parents names and are no SA marriages of anyone , child of > Thomas &  Mary . > > > I would like to know if he was a son of John and Mary (nee > HACKETT) > PRETTY of Poole in Dorset, and therefore a brother of my > great great > grandmother Anne Taylor WALKER nee PRETTY, who also arrived > in > Australia in that year but settled in NSW. > > > > If parents' names are not listed in the Biog. Index, > can anyone > > suggest alternative sources to research? I have tried > familysearch, > > but cannot find Thomas' birth. > > I cant find a Thomas PRETTY who fits your criteria in the > UK 1841 > census ??? > > Where  were  their kids  born ?    > Maybe parents married in the same > place ?? > > How do you know Marys maiden name was SPOONER ? > > You can get transcriptions of SA BDMs from the SA FHS for > alot less > the SA Registry charge  There maybe info on his death > record that not > in the index ?? > > SA newspapers not on line yet for 1872 > > As an after thought I just checked in genesreunited > .......... Are a > few Thomas PRETTYs inc 2 born  Poole ?? > > > Bye > > > -- > MargM > Beautiful NSW Central Coast > NSW > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENANZ-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > __________________________________________________________________________________ Win 1 of 4 Sony home entertainment packs thanks to Yahoo!7. Enter now: http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/

"jones" <jones@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:4b0114d3$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au... > As I do my research from military/enlistment documents, I find it > irritating that there is no date of birth on these. Just an age of > enlistment. > > Wonder why no date of birth? > > Thanks > Katherine - Sydney As House said "everybody lies". > >

Hi everyone, Does anyone have access to the Biographical Index of South Australians? I am trying to find out the names of the parents of Thomas PRETTY, who with wife Mary nee SPOONER and ten children arrived in Adelaide on board the Success on 28 January 1848. I would like to know if he was a son of John and Mary (nee HACKETT) PRETTY of Poole in Dorset, and therefore a brother of my great great grandmother Anne Taylor WALKER nee PRETTY, who also arrived in Australia in that year but settled in NSW. If parents' names are not listed in the Biog. Index, can anyone suggest alternative sources to research? I have tried familysearch, but cannot find Thomas' birth. Thanks. Kathy __________________________________________________________________________________ Win 1 of 4 Sony home entertainment packs thanks to Yahoo!7. Enter now: http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/

sally flynn wrote: > So......Mr Rudd in his wisdom is shutting the above offices over the next > 2 and a half years as a cost cutting measure to save a measly > 2.1 million. They are no his archives, they are ours. What is he going > to shut down next? > > Have a read everyone > http://www.themercury.com.au/article/2009/11/13/109435_tasmania-news.html This will be due to the increased access over the Internet. How many people physically go there? Would you agree to an increase in your taxes to put in your share of the "measly 2.1 million"? Or is that small change in your budget? We have just had the U.S. take our money and troops to fight their oil war (shades of Vietnam,) then out of gratitude, try to pull another Great Depression over us. Didn't you notice? Consumer confidence is returning, but according to the Reserve Bank and the Stock Exchange, Australia is not "out of the woods" yet. Mr Rudd is not your average Labor P.M. He doesn't necessarily believe in "jobs for the boys," as Paul Keating has observed. And he doesn't believe in spending money that isn't there, and leaving it to the next Liberal Government to find it. He balances his books. As a traditionally Liberal voter, I have a lot of time for him. BTW, did you read it? The article says that the 3 offices are Adelaide, DARWIN and Hobart. And your records will stay in Hobart. I quote from the article: "He [Director-General Gibbs] held meetings with the Tasmanian Museum and Art Gallery, State Library of Tasmania and Tasmanian Archives and Heritage Office to see how they could help. "Every effort will be made to retain the Tasmanian heartland records in Tasmania," he said. " Doug.

Hi Dianne Have you looked at Agnes Cairns's mother's convict record on the Tas Archives site mentioned by another poster as it may give you more information. Was Agnes's mother's surname Merry or Cairns as I could only find a convict by the name of Elizabeth Merry who arrived on the Lady of the Lake on 1 November 1829. You may find mention of the family in newspapers of the day, Tasmanian papers are included - see http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home You could also try the Times Digital Archives to see if there's any mention of the mother's crime or trial etc. cheers Jenny "Dianne" <di22@bigpond.com> wrote in message news:CMILm.54973$ze1.3882@news-server.bigpond.net.au... > Hi to all, can you please help me find this family. > > Agnes CAIRNS was born circa 1818 at Kilmarnock Ayr in Scotland. > > Agnes arrived in Tasmania when she was about eleven years old with her > mother who was a convict. Her parents were Michael and Elizabeth Cairns > (nee > Merry) > > Unfortunately this is all I have to go on so any suggestions would be > appreciated. Thanks, Dianne > > >

Hi All This is a copy of an email I sent many years ago: "Convict Peter Nadin "Clara" 1864 to WA , received his ticket of leave on 1 July 1865 and his certificate of freedom on 10 March 1869. He left Western Australia for South Australia on 10 October 1876. Cannot find a marriage for him in either WA or SA, but a kind Lister to this list obtained information re his death in 1885 at the Adelaide Destitute Asylum , as follows: How Long in Colony: Aust. 12 years - Sth. Aust. 1882 (which does not tie up with arriving in 1864 but some convicts covered their tracks) Relatives in Colony: Wife left him and gone to Melbourne (So could he have married in Melbourne as his wife had returned there?) If he did not go to SA but to Vistoria and there married could someone do a Marriage Look-Up for Peter from 1876 to 1882 please? Other details on the Asylum entries tie up - his age, occupation." There was help from a Lister to say no marriage in Victoria. Could SKS who has access kindly do a search for WA and SA, please. I have been contacted by a relative of Peter, who lives in England, and he would like to know if there were any children from the marriage/ Best regards Joanne at Wyee NSW

Hi Hayley The Battye Library in the State Library of WA Building holds west australian resources.. They have much valuable information. and a visit to thier premises in the city holds lots more than can be accessed online at this point in time. www.slwa.wa.gov.au/  - Liswa link alternatively another resource for WA is the Dead Persons Society,  they may also be able to help with your research. http://members.iinet.net.au/~perthdps/default.html cheers Jewelly West Oz Shift your problems to challenges.  When you have problems, you worry about them.  When you have challenges - you are working, applying, and attacking your plan to get results. This shift in thinking from problems to challenges is important in making tension an asset. --- On Mon, 16/11/09, Hayley <hales@e-wire.net.au> wrote: Hayley wrote: > Hi There. I was wondering if anyone knows if the Ryerson Index is complete > or is being updated constantly. I have a death in 1981 which is not listed > on the index. Is is possible there could be a notice and it just has not > been listed yet??  Should I look anyway?? > > > > Many thanks > > Hayley > > Perth WA : D __________________________________________________________________________________ Get more done like never before with Yahoo!7 Mail. Learn more: http://au.overview.mail.yahoo.com/

Hello Doug. Many many thanks for your explanation. I will now take a closer look at the site. It is a fantastic resource for genealogy. I have found many notices that have helped me fill in gaps in my tree. Thank you Hayley : D -------Original Message------- From: Doug Laidlaw Date: 16/11/2009 9:10:44 AM To: genanz@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: The Ryerson Index Hayley wrote: > Hi There. I was wondering if anyone knows if the Ryerson Index is complete > or is being updated constantly. I have a death in 1981 which is not listed > on the index. Is is possible there could be a notice and it just has not > been listed yet?? Should I look anyway?? > > > > Many thanks > > Hayley > > Perth WA : D It depends on the location, Hayley. We have no volunteers in WA yet.:( You may be able to obtain your notice at the State Library. The Index is of newspaper notices only. To see how it works, have a look under the "About Us" link. If nobody put in a death notice, it won't be in the Index. This can happen with country papers that don't publish every day; I scanned the Mackay Qld papers for a fortnight, but there was no notice for a current death. The Ryerson Index is a volunteer effort. It started when Joyce Ryerson gave her collection of Sydney indexes to the NSW Dead Persons' Society. The bulk of its entries are still for the Sydney Morning Herald (about half the total) and the Sydney Daily Telegraph. With time, other papers have been added, and are still being added. In each case. we do current issues first, on a daily basis, and back issues as time permits. We are currently working hard at back-indexing to fill the gaps, but that depends on several things, mainly availability of the back issues, preferably at no cost, and availability of volunteers. As an example, I index the Bendigo Advertiser. That was first indexed in November 2005. As well as keeping it up to date, I am working backwards, one month at a time. September and October 2005 are now complete, and this afternoon, I will be at the local Library indexing more of August. I would like to be doing it more quickly, but my concentration lets me down. To find out whether we are indexing the paper you need, go to the "Newspaper Coverage" link. Choose your paper from the list, and you can navigate to a list of the dates we have indexed. A paper cannot be indexed unless somebody is sending it in. If your paper isn't listed, it is because nobody taking that paper is willing to donate a few minutes a day or week to send it in. The whole site is updated fortnightly on average. One man does all the co-ordinating and uploading of data, and recently, he has been receiving *over 250 updates a day* from his team. As a result, we have had to streamline our procedures at that point, but there should be no difference as far as users are concerned. That gives you an idea of the size of the operation. Without volunteers, it would fall to the ground. We need more volunteers. Training and indexing software are provided. If you are interested, there is a link on the site. The Index is an index only. There is a very limited service providing look- ups of notices indexed, but that is provided by volunteers as well. They do this for their hobby, and do not appreciate being abused for not having the details back the following day. Unfortunately, we do receive messages like that, occasionally. Please look at other options first, then follow the procedures under "Requesting a Lookup." I would be happy to answer any further queries. Doug Laidlaw, Committee Member, Ryerson Index Inc. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENANZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Service record supplied off list. Best wishes Sharon -----Original Message----- From: genanz-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:genanz-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Noeline Mullins Sent: Monday, 16 November 2009 10:00 To: Genanz-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Help please Hi everyone long time no hear. We have moved into a retirement Village and its great ,but moving has made me so tired and at last I have my computer and getting on board. A cuz of mine from Cornwall has just sent me a email with this info about a cousin of his and would luv to find out more info . My cousin from Cornwall Emailed NSW to find a Soldier killed in France 1918 in the Australian Imperial Force: Charles Henry MATHEWS. Pte Nu 766 24th Batt AIF Born 1897,Cornwall, ACT pre 1930 Would anyone be able to advise me or have any info who I could trace this for my cuz. Hoping someone would be able to help me here,I would really appreciate this. Regards, Noeline Kiwi in Brisbane. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENANZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Noeline, The National Archives has his service record online. It is under MATTHEW Charles Henry born Constantine England. The Commonwealth War Graves Commission has his listing as being buried at the Ribemont Communal Cemetery Extension, Somme Cheers Judy -----Original Message----- From: genanz-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:genanz-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Noeline Mullins Sent: Monday, 16 November 2009 9:30 AM To: Genanz-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Help please Hi everyone long time no hear. We have moved into a retirement Village and its great ,but moving has made me so tired and at last I have my computer and getting on board. A cuz of mine from Cornwall has just sent me a email with this info about a cousin of his and would luv to find out more info . My cousin from Cornwall Emailed NSW to find a Soldier killed in France 1918 in the Australian Imperial Force: Charles Henry MATHEWS. Pte Nu 766 24th Batt AIF Born 1897,Cornwall, ACT pre 1930 Would anyone be able to advise me or have any info who I could trace this for my cuz. Hoping someone would be able to help me here,I would really appreciate this. Regards, Noeline Kiwi in Brisbane. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENANZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think this would be your man No Surname Rank Service Number Date Of Death Age Regiment/Service Nationality Grave/Memorial Ref. Cemetery/Memorial Name 1 MATHEWS , CHARLES HENRY Private 4663 31/08/1916 Unknown Australian Infantry, A.I.F. Australian VILLERS-BRETONNEUX MEMORIAL . .· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*.` Jenny McCarthy Brightwaters on beautiful Lake Macquarie