I am currently using the old Family Tree Maker Version 11. Almost two years ago I purchased and installed Family Tree Maker 2008, but it performance was so inadequate that I reverted back to using Version 11 and am still using it. Family Tree Maker 2010 is now on the market and I was wondering if anyone has any experience with it and would care to comment on it compared with the old Version 11. Thanks Bob

On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:03:35 +1000, magsdags <magsdags@internode.on.net> wrote: >His name was Samuel Free from the Second Fleet, he died June 3rd, 1819. >He is not buried in a Cemetery, the Headstones from the convicts from >Norfolk Island that were sent to Tasmania have their headstones placed >on a memorial wall in St. Davids Park, Hobart. I have two on this wall >from Norfolk Island, the other one was in a lot better condition than >Samuels. >Kind Regards, >Mags Townsville. Thanks for posting the details. This is the sort of thing I would think might have been transcribed by one of the major TAS Family History Society groups. A quick search reveals these two that may be able to advise on the existence, if any, of transcripts; http://www.hobart.tasfhs.org/ http://www.tasfhs.org/ ps Posting to the newsgroup is sufficient, there's no need to also send an email. Regards, Robert

Robert G Eldridge wrote: > On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:55:06 +1000, magsdags > <magsdags@internode.on.net> wrote: > > His name was Samuel Free from the Second Fleet, he died June 3rd, 1819. He is not buried in a Cemetery, the Headstones from the convicts from Norfolk Island that were sent to Tasmania have their headstones placed on a memorial wall in St. Davids Park, Hobart. I have two on this wall from Norfolk Island, the other one was in a lot better condition than Samuels. Kind Regards, Mags Townsville. >> Hi List, >> >> Would anyone be able to help fill in the blank words that I could not >> read on my convict ancestor's headstone that I found on a recent trip to >> Tasmania dated 1819? >> > (snip) > > You didn't think to mention the cemetery place and the name and death > date of the person? > > I mention this as some old cemeteries have been transcribed many years > ago and the detail may be available from transcriptions where the > stone has subsequently weathered to an illegible state. > > I have see one example of this with a headstone at a Ryde, Sydney > churchyard where without an old Society of Australian Genealogists > transcript the words would be lost. > >

The Old Bloke wrote: > On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:42:45 +0800, "B Pozzi" <bbpozzi@tadaust.org.au> > wrote: > >> I am currently using the old Family Tree Maker Version 11. >> Almost two years ago I purchased and installed Family Tree Maker 2008, but >> it performance was so inadequate that I reverted back to using Version 11 >> and am still using it. >> Family Tree Maker 2010 is now on the market and I was wondering if anyone >> has any experience with it and would care to comment on it compared with the >> old Version 11. >> Thanks >> Bob > I stuck with FTM 2006 after my bad experience with 2008. I have > recently installed 2010, and while I prefer the 2006 interface, 2010 > does have really great new features. > > Regards > Doug I have found 2010 to be really good. I upgraded from the dismal 2008 to 2009 last year and have now upgraded to 2010. I don't print many reports and I wonder why the printing of reports is so important. Who do you give all these reports to? I like FTM 2010 because of all the information that I can store and have easy access to. I probably could have done the same on 2009 but my other half is a computer nerd so we usually get most updates when they become available. Julie

On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:42:45 +0800, "B Pozzi" <bbpozzi@tadaust.org.au> wrote: >I am currently using the old Family Tree Maker Version 11. >Almost two years ago I purchased and installed Family Tree Maker 2008, but >it performance was so inadequate that I reverted back to using Version 11 >and am still using it. >Family Tree Maker 2010 is now on the market and I was wondering if anyone >has any experience with it and would care to comment on it compared with the >old Version 11. >Thanks >Bob I stuck with FTM 2006 after my bad experience with 2008. I have recently installed 2010, and while I prefer the 2006 interface, 2010 does have really great new features. Regards Doug

So I take it that you never print reports, which is only available when you register it, or do you use someone elses registration number? John H "Roma" <rwal0782@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message news:KL%Tm.61468$ze1.49569@news-server.bigpond.net.au... >I used to use same program but for last few years only use Brothers Keeper >it is very user friendly and does everything I need plus more and its free >on internet. > cheers Roma > > "B Pozzi" <bbpozzi@tadaust.org.au> wrote in message > news:mailman.864.1260420169.2037.genanz@rootsweb.com... > I am currently using the old Family Tree Maker Version 11. > Almost two years ago I purchased and installed Family Tree Maker 2008, but > it performance was so inadequate that I reverted back to using Version 11 > and am still using it. > Family Tree Maker 2010 is now on the market and I was wondering if anyone > has any experience with it and would care to comment on it compared with > the > old Version 11. > Thanks > Bob >

I used to use same program but for last few years only use Brothers Keeper it is very user friendly and does everything I need plus more and its free on internet. cheers Roma "B Pozzi" <bbpozzi@tadaust.org.au> wrote in message news:mailman.864.1260420169.2037.genanz@rootsweb.com... I am currently using the old Family Tree Maker Version 11. Almost two years ago I purchased and installed Family Tree Maker 2008, but it performance was so inadequate that I reverted back to using Version 11 and am still using it. Family Tree Maker 2010 is now on the market and I was wondering if anyone has any experience with it and would care to comment on it compared with the old Version 11. Thanks Bob

version 11 for me. much prefered over the newer ones. I have tried upgrades but have always gone back to 11. Whilst there are more bells and whistles on the later ones the ease of use for 11 and the familiarity has always drawn me back. On the rare occasion that I want a variation of a report thet FTM doesnt do I export to Brothers Keeper version 5.2G (also an oldie but a goodie). On Dec 10, 3:42 pm, "B Pozzi" <bbpo...@tadaust.org.au> wrote: > I am currently using the old Family Tree Maker Version 11. > Almost two years ago I purchased and installed Family Tree Maker 2008, but > it performance was so inadequate that I reverted back to using Version 11 > and am still using it. > Family Tree Maker 2010 is now on the market and I was wondering if anyone > has any experience with it and would care to comment on it compared with the > old Version 11. > Thanks > Bob

Hi Rhonda, I did a google search for Joseph and Isaac Celements and highway robbery, and found the following: The Salisbury And Winchester Journal and General Advertiser of Wilts, Hants, Dorset, and Somerset. Winchester, Saturday, March 7. The trials of the prisoners at our assizes did not conclude till very late this evening.-The following received sentences as under. Hugh Flinn (a soldier), convicted of stabbing and wilfully murdering his comrade, James Rainey, near Titchfield, on Tuesday last, - to be hanged on Monday, and his body to be dissected. The wretched man was with great difficulty persuaded to plead not guilty. The following: prisoners are to be executed on the 21st instant :- Benj.Lawrence, for robbing John Gray on the highway in the parish of Romsey; - George Biggs, for a burglary in the house of William Francis, at Alverstoke ;- James Robinson, for stabbing William Mitchell, at Portsmouth ;- Isaac White, John Burton, and Henry Morrey, for uttering forged Bank of England notes; and George Glasspoole and Joseph Glasspoole, for a burglary in the house of Richard Frith, at Cheriton. The following received sentence of death, but have been reprieved :- Mary Fahrland and Harriet Church, for breaking into and robbing the house of Tho.Blake, at Froyle; - Richard Webb and James Ayles, for killing and stealing a bullock belonging to S.Lancaster, Esq.;- Thomas Dunnings, for robbing the house of J.Whicher at Eling, on a Sunday; - Thomas Noyes and Edward Andrews, for robbing S.Eldridge at Eling;- Geo.Taylor and John Gill, for stealing King's stores; - William Johnson, for robbing R.Trueman, on the highway in the Isle of Wight;- Wm.Cawte, for a burglary in the house of Ann Blunden, at Porchester; - Wm.Snelling, for a burglary in the house of W.Tupper, at Portsea; - R.Briant, for stealing King's stores; - John Norman, for a burglary in the house of T.Moorman, at Portsea; - Eliza.Winn, for robbing Thos.Chas.Barrow, on the highway at Portsea; - George Mason and Geo.Braham, for robbing T.Marsh on the highway near Stockbridge; Thos.Jacobs, for a burglary in the house of Lord Bolton; - John Hall, for robbing the house of R.Nottley, at Portsea; - John Smith, for robbing the house of J.Bailey, jun. at Portsea;- Wm.Miles, for stealing a gelding belonging to R.Wooldridge;- W.Hayward, G.Dagwell, J.Boulton, and J.Bishop, for robbing the house of Sarah Scriven, at Portsea; - Isaac Clements, Joseph Clements, and James Earwarker, for robbing W.S.Purchase on the highway at Titchfield;- Geo.Brown, for a burglary in the house of Jas.Cox, at Alverstoke; James Hopkins, Geo.Hopkins, and James Glazier, for a burglary in a house at Ambersham North; - & John Gray and Steph.Boyce, for sheep stealing - Wm.Tremain, Andrew Goodwin, and W.Glatton[?], for various felonies, to be transported 14 years; Francis Peisse, to be transported 7 years.- The remainder of the prisoners (54 in number) were sentenced to lighter punishments, or acquitted. Some of the other names were mentioned the previous week for different crimes: Winchester, Saturday, February 28. The Lent Assizes for this county will be holden at the Castle in this city on Monday next, before the Hon.Sir Charles Abbot, Knt. and the Hon.Sir George Sowley Holroyd, Knt. The following prisoners are on the calendar for trial :- Robert Hand and Orlando Lockyear, for the wilful murder of John Sutton, at the parish of Northwood, in the Isle of Wight. - Benj.Lawrence, for stopping John Gray on the highway in the parish of Romsey, and stealing from his cart a breast of mutton and other property - Wm.Johnson, for robbing Richard Trueman on the highway, at the parish of Whippingham, in the Isle or Wight, and for other felonies. - Eliza Winn, for assaulting Thomas Charles Barrow, on the highway at Portsea, and taking from his person, against his will, a gold watch and other property. - Thos.Branning, John Ridout, Sarah O'Neil, Mary Brackey, and Eliz.O'Neil, for assaulting Tho.Mullens in the Soke of Winchester on the 18th of December, and stealing from his person a silver watch - Isaac Clements, Joseph Clements, and James Earwarker, for assaulting Wm.Silvester Purchase on the highway in the parish of Titchfield, and taking from his person a silver watch and other articles; also charged with other felonies. - George Mason and George Braham, for robbing Thomas Marsh on the highway near Stockbridge.- Thos.Noyce and Edward Andrews, for robbing Stephen Eldridge of 3 guineas, three £1. notes, and other property, at Ower, in the parish of Eling. Hope this helps a little. Kathy --- On Thu, 10/12/09, Rhonda Brownlow <brownlowr@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > From: Rhonda Brownlow <brownlowr@optusnet.com.au> > Subject: Convict brothers > To: genanz@rootsweb.com > Received: Thursday, 10 December, 2009, 1:30 PM > > > Hello Listers > > Isaac and Joseph Clements arrived on the General Stewart > for the crime of > highway robbery and had received a life sentence, having > looked at their > indents Isaac received his C/F in 1827 but Joseph Clements > didn't receive > his till 1834, seeing as they were both charges with the > same crim I wonder > why the difference. They were charges in the company of > George Mason, George > Braham, John Burton, Benjamin Lawrence, and Thomas Noyce; > perhaps someone > might recognise these other gentlemen and may be able to > tell me more about > the actual crime. I checked the 1822, 1823, 1824 musters, > 1828 census. > Neither was recorded on the 1837 muster, they both settled > at Canowindra. > They were Hampshire and later were joined by two siblings, > their brother > Benjamin Clements later settling at Bigga NSW. Having > migrated aboard the > "Isabella" on 18th October 1840. > > > > Any assistance would be appreciated. > > Cheers Rhonda > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENANZ-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > __________________________________________________________________________________ See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now: http://au.movies.yahoo.com/session-times/

William Trevelyan, his wife Julia and daughter Elizabeth Jane (born 2 May 1860 Collingwood) departed Melbourne in May 1861 on the ship Sussex for London. It is believed the wife Julia died on the voyage. William and the daughter Elizabeth who was renamed Julia Thomas, have been found back in Cornwall where the daughter (Julia Thomas) died 2 Sept 1861, age 17 months. I am unable to find any record of the ship Sussex in London with reference to deaths at sea. Can anyone help please. Regards Sharon

It is that time of the year when people are busy with other things, and the list/newsgroup has reduced traffic. The newsgroup is at soc.genealogy.australia+nz Back to writing my cards for the Season. Keith Wellington, NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "DiMa" <sascar#@alphalink.com.au> Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.australia+nz To: <genanz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:49 AM Subject: Re: just testing > There has been other days missing as well. I now resort to the archives > for missing messages. > > -- > Di > I'm creative! You can't expect me to be neat too. > Vic Australia > To reply please remove # in email address. > "jones" <jones@nowhere.com> wrote in message > news:4b1c2495@dnews.tpgi.com.au... >> No updates for a few days. Just testing. >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENANZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:55:06 +1000, magsdags <magsdags@internode.on.net> wrote: >Hi List, > >Would anyone be able to help fill in the blank words that I could not >read on my convict ancestor's headstone that I found on a recent trip to >Tasmania dated 1819? (snip) You didn't think to mention the cemetery place and the name and death date of the person? I mention this as some old cemeteries have been transcribed many years ago and the detail may be available from transcriptions where the stone has subsequently weathered to an illegible state. I have see one example of this with a headstone at a Ryde, Sydney churchyard where without an old Society of Australian Genealogists transcript the words would be lost. -- Robert G. Eldridge Toronto NSW Australia http://www.eldridgegenealogy.org Now researching ELDRIDGE families world wide 1000s at my Web site *Wanted* Any Eldridge related information

I have found there not to be many messages at all over the last couple of months, especially on my computer. Thanks for push to go and do my Christmas cards. -- Di I'm creative! You can't expect me to be neat too. Vic Australia To reply please remove # in email address. "ListMail" <genmailnz@gmail.com> wrote in message news:mailman.842.1260311416.2037.genanz@rootsweb.com... > It is that time of the year when people are busy with other things, and > the list/newsgroup has reduced traffic. > > The newsgroup is at > > soc.genealogy.australia+nz > > Back to writing my cards for the Season. > > Keith Wellington, NZ > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DiMa" <sascar#@alphalink.com.au> > Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.australia+nz > To: <genanz@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:49 AM > Subject: Re: just testing > > >> There has been other days missing as well. I now resort to the archives >> for missing messages. >> >> -- >> Di >> I'm creative! You can't expect me to be neat too. >> Vic Australia >> To reply please remove # in email address. >> "jones" <jones@nowhere.com> wrote in message >> news:4b1c2495@dnews.tpgi.com.au... >>> No updates for a few days. Just testing. >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GENANZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Many thanks to Jacqui, Marilyn & Julie for your help. I have looked at the photo I took and apart from the last line have been able to work out all the words. The only word visible on the last line is the last word "before" as the sandstone was very old and crumbly. So the last line is either: I am not lost but gone before or I am not dead but gone before The very faint writing probably looks more like "lost" than "death" Thank you all for your suggestions. Margaret McCulloch. Townsville.

There has been other days missing as well. I now resort to the archives for missing messages. -- Di I'm creative! You can't expect me to be neat too. Vic Australia To reply please remove # in email address. "jones" <jones@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:4b1c2495@dnews.tpgi.com.au... > No updates for a few days. Just testing. > >

loking for more information on PARK Jennet C born 1914 father William J mother Margaret birth registered at West Wallsend in 1914, reg number 30776. Information from a living desendant is that Jennet(t) Collier PARK married unknown HUDSON (see below) then later married unknown BATES. Places, dates of marriages also unknown, end date/death of spouses unknown Then from the NAA site on her enlistment record we have her date of birth as 01 Jul 1914 in Newcastle NSW., next of kin as HUDSON James (meaning that sometime before 1947 Jennett married James HUDSON) And from the Advocate she died as Jennett Collier BATES at North West General Hospital Burnie on 6th November 1981. According to the death notice from the Advocate (which I have a copy of) she had/has a brother John, a sister Marie ( both in Queensland when she died) and another brother Bill (in the US when she died). Headstone gives no new details either. If anyone out there can help with any more information I would appreciate it.

Not sure if this has already been run through the list, but in case it hasn't - all 1911 Irish census records are now available freely @ http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/ Apparently 1901 is almost complete as well. Happy reading. Best Wishes Sharon Donnellan Sydney, Australia

I am seeking descendants of John NEWNHAM, born 1815 and Joseph Henry NEWNHAM born 1817 in Rochester, Kent, England. Parents were William Henry James Newnham and Ann of Kent. John Newnham was convicted in England and sent to Tasmania 1843, ticket of leave 1847 but was still in Tasmania in 1848, believed to have married and had children. But where ? Joseph Henry Newnham, pardoned in 1849 and left Hobart in 1852 for Castlemaine, Victoria where he died in 1883. Any information at all would be welcomed, so near and yet so far; I have never had occasion to delve into Australian history before so am at a bit of a loss where to start. Many thanks (in anticipation) Lyn

I see a two day gap as well. jones wrote: > No updates for a few days. Just testing. > >

Kia Ora Margaret Could it possibly be (added in words in blue) "A husband kind and tender dear, A loving father now be here, Left wife and children for to weep. Life be in death cold (arms) to sleep. (1 word missing) Weep not for me but be content, I was not yours but only lent, Wipe off those tears and weep no more ( 3 word missing) I am not lost but gone before. (last line, 7 missing words) Jacqui Gee, Dunedin, NZ -----Original Message----- From: magsdags [mailto:magsdags@internode.on.net] Sent: Monday, 7 December 2009 5:55 p.m. To: genanz@rootsweb.com Subject: Help please with Headstone Inscription Hi List, Would anyone be able to help fill in the blank words that I could not read on my convict ancestor's headstone that I found on a recent trip to Tasmania dated 1819? I thought someone may have had the same Inscription on an old headstone. "A husband kind and tender dear, A loving father now be here, Left wife and children for to weep. Life be in death ........ to sleep. (1 word missing) Weep not for me but be content, I was not yours but only lent, Wipe of those tears ......... ................. .................. ( 3 word missing) ........ ............... ............ ................ .............. ................ ............ (last line, 7 missing words) Many thanks, Margaret McCulloch, Townsville, Qld. magsdags@internode.on.net