Susie Zada wrote: > Hi Lesley, > > J Harvey, photographer, Gipps St, Belfast (Port Fairy) - 1868 > > For any earlier / other dates you would probably need to check local > directories or burgess / electoral rolls etc. > > Regards ........ Susie Z > > -----Original Message----- > From: genanz-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:genanz-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Stuart Gregory > Sent: Monday, 4 January 2010 12:14 PM > To: genanz@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: J. Harvey, photographer, Belfast (Port Fairy) ... operating > dates? > > On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 08:02:33 +0800, Lesley Albertson > <albertson@exemail.com.au> wrote: > >> Hi Listers, >> >> I wonder, can SKS tell me the years when J. Harvey operated as a >> photographer in Belfast (Port Fairy) in the Western District of Victoria? >> >> Have a photo by him dated 1853 ... which I *suspect* is too early. >> >> Thanks :-) >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> Lesley >> (In sunny Melbourne) > > Lesley, > > I would be very suspicious of any photo dated before about 1885. > There is a photograph taken in the Western District by J Harvey on the Picture Australia website. Unfortunately is doesn't give the year of the photo. http://www.pictureaustralia.gov.au/apps/pictureaustralia;jsessionid=D7D30079A13DAF8BD6720EC0B3E866D6?action=PADisplay&mode=display&rs=resultset-645890&no=11 Julie

Hi Yvonnie, > I am looking to make contact with Alice Louise HARTFIELD or > her descendants I am told she moved to New Zealand. Alice > Louise HARTFIELD was born in Lingfield Surrey in 1892 & > moved to NZ circa 1910. According to BDM Online - Historical Records (https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Home/) Alice Louise HARTFIELD married William STONE in 1918 (registration 1918/1077). You can order a copy of that registration online to make sure this is the right woman. There are no births listed on that web site for babes with a mother named Alice STONE - but I wouldn't expect there to be given the time restrictions on that site (100 years for births, 50 years for stillbirths). However, you may be able to find births in the old microfiche indexes. If I were you, I'd start with the deaths of Alice and William, as these should list the age and sex of any "living issue", ie the children who outlived the parent. There is a death that might be her - an Alice Louise STONE born 19 May 1892 who died in 1972 (registration 1972/28419). William is likely listed there, but without more information about him it is difficult to know which entry is him. Get the marriage registration, and work from there. When you place an order with BDM remember to get the printout, not the legal certificate, for family history purposes. Also, if you are a member of the New Zealand Society of Genealogists (NZSG, http://www.genealogy.org.nz/), don't forget to use their Certificates Collection first - this is a much cheaper route for members than purchasing from BDM if the required documents are held. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Howard **I have no personal interest in the name(s) mentioned here** *** Please reply to the list/newsgroup *** -- Kaiwaka, Northland, New Zealand http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wendyh65/ <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Ewendyh65/>

Hi Listers, For a while, I have been fossicking for a Mary McLEAN, who was born Kilbride, Isle of Coll, Argyll, Scotland, 12 June 1809. She married a John McLEAN (yes, birth name and married name the same), and had two children, Effy/Euphemia, born 28 Mar 1840 and Neil, born 10 Sept 1841. Mary appears as a widow in the 1851 Census, living with her mother Flora McLEAN, also a widow, as a House Servant, with her two children, Effy and Neal. *** 1851 Census Coll 254 E2/10 McLean Flora W 80 Head Retired farmer's wife Arl., Coll Farm of Acha 255 E2/10 McLean Mary W 42 Dau. House Servant Arl., Coll Farm of Acha 256 E2/10 McLean Effy U 11 G-dau. Scholar Arl., Coll Farm of Acha 257 E2/10 McLean Niel U 9 G-son Scholar Arl., Coll Farm of Acha *** Mary, Effy/Euphemia and Neil migrated to Melbourne in Oct 1855, on the "James Baines", as Unassisted Migrants. (Mary's age is given there as 40, rather than 45). They moved to Tower Hill, Victoria, where Euphemia married a cousin, John McLEAN (in 1857) and Neil became a farmer, in 1875 marrying my great-aunt, Emma Jane BEASLEY. But, what then happened to Mary? I can't find a death for her, or a remarriage, under any variant spelling I can think of ... and a check of Scotland's People does not find a death or a remarriage for her on Coll. Any assistance gratefully accepted - I am currently at a dead end, with this one. Cheers, Lesley (In grey, overcast Melbourne)

Dear Fellow Researchers, I am looking to make contact with Alice Louise HARTFIELD or her descendants I am told she moved to New Zealand. Alice Louise HARTFIELD was born in Lingfield Surrey in 1892 & moved to NZ circa 1910. Regards Yvonnie E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.14040 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

I doubt if there is a link ......... I have searched for Imre Panda and found that he was also an author. His show 'Journey into the land of dance was one of the very first on OZ TV so must have been around 1956 - 1960 on Sydney TV. "jones" <jones@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:4b3fe9cf$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au... > Do you mean "Princess" Panda on the Tarax show? > > > "Joe Twitchin" <jo.boy.drop this.@bigpond.com> wrote in message > >> Is anyone old enough (I am) to remember in the very early days of Sydney >> television shows an 'Imre Panda' (a migrant) who presented a delightful >> programme called 'Journey into the land of dance' >> Joe >> > >

I am not sure that I would regard the USD as conclusive. Even Aussie sites use it for its international quality. But a life membership costing less than 18 months' worth? Perhaps that is how long they expect to be around? (For the rest, I have gone to http://www.peoplesearch.com.au/ I hope that it is the one you are talking about...) Even the categories are suspect: What is a "People Database"? Court Records Database? What Australian court has its registries on line? Decisions for the benefit of lawyers, yes, and they are Crown copyright, but not the file of documents with full personal details. In Victoria, years ago, it was made illegal to publish in credit references a writ that had not gone to judgment. It is an offence to publish any information about an Australian divorce case without asking the Court (and any property settlement would be very relevant to a credit reference.) The new Privacy laws now apply as well. Email Address lookup: There are free sites available. Where would this site get a complete list? From the spambots, perhaps. Would you want your address to be on that site for anybody to look up? [It might send the spam barons broke and put them out of business. :) ] The free ones I have seen are made up from email addresses made public by businesses on their Web pages. What is here is probably a copy of those, and nothing more. You go to their contact details and find that they have taken away the contact form "due to spam." Plenty of sites use those contact forms. If this one can't keep spammers away, how secure is their data? How do you know it hasn't been hacked and changed? Enough said. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Doug, Webmaster and ex-lawyer, Committee member, http://www.ryersonindex.org/ Dave Aitchison wrote: > I have looked at a site called Australia Public Record Directory. > > The charges are i Year Database Membership US$29.95 > Premium Database Membership (Life) US$39.95 > > They claim to have the following Australian Resources > Australia People Database > Australia Public Database > Australia Crime Database > Email Address Lookup > Australia Address Lookup > Civil Records Database > Court Records Database > Australia Business Lookup > > as well as: Australia Phone Database > NZ Phone Database > UK Phone Database > Canada Phone Database > USA Phone Database > > They claim the Following Australia Directory Results > > First & Last Name > Full Address > Criminal History > Background Records > Public Records > Phone Number History > Civil Records > > On other parts of their site they also claim to have Genealogy databases > (which is why my interest was piqued) > > > Has anybody on this ng had anything to do with this crowd? > > Are they legit or dodgy? > > If they are legit some of the results they claim to provide could be > worrying??? > > Regards > > Dave A

"Dave Aitchison" <aitchison.dave@gmail.com> wrote in message news:WlD%m.66329$ze1.33869@news-server.bigpond.net.au... >I have looked at a site called Australia Public Record Directory. > Hi Dave > The charges are i Year Database Membership US$29.95 > Premium Database Membership (Life) US$39.95 > For what ? > They claim to have the following Australian Resources > Australia People Database > Australia Public Database > Australia Crime Database > Email Address Lookup > No idea what/ where the above are to be found Australia Address Lookup > Civil Records Database Or what this is ? > Court Records Database Maybe http://www.law.mq.edu.au/scnsw/html/family_history.htm would fill that nitch ? This site is free to access anyway > Australia Business Lookup ? The Business Whitepages ? Or these ? > > as well as: Australia Phone Database > NZ Phone Database > UK Phone Database > Canada Phone Database > USA Phone Database These are all free to access > > They claim the Following Australia Directory Results > > First & Last Name > Full Address > Criminal History There is a 70 year embargo in NSW just on accessing the Police Gazettes > Background Records > Public Records > Phone Number History > Civil Records > > Are they legit or dodgy? I'd say decidedly dodgy Bye -- MargM Beautiful Wyong Shire NSW

On Saturday 02 January 2010 19:21:10 Dave Aitchison wrote: > I have looked at a site called Australia Public Record Directory. > > The charges are i Year Database Membership US$29.95 > Premium Database Membership (Life) US$39.95 > If it was anything but suspect they would charge $A wouldn't they? We continue to warn people that almost ALL of these sites are shonky, some downright fraudulent and ALL of the information they CLAIM to offer is available elsewhere, sometimes free. For example the Australian phone directory is available online for FREE, as is the U.K. one. Save your money. if you really need records that aren't available for free, then join Ancestry or Findmypast or purchase CDs from Gould, etc... -- ==== Michael Lightfoot Canberra, Australia michael.lightfoot@pcug.org.au ====

Dear Dave, My warning to you: Don't go near it. Save your money for better sites. This one and similar have been discussed here before. If needs be, I will discuss it off list. Cheers, Tony Moore (Castle Hill, NSW) @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ On 2 Jan 2010 at 8:21, Dave Aitchison wrote: From: "Dave Aitchison" <aitchison.dave@gmail.com> Subject: Is this a legitimate site? Date sent: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 08:21:10 GMT Organization: BigPond Internet Services To: genanz@rootsweb.com > I have looked at a site called Australia Public Record Directory. > > The charges are i Year Database Membership US$29.95 > Premium Database Membership (Life) US$39.95 > Snipped>> > On other parts of their site they also claim to have Genealogy databases > (which is why my interest was piqued) > > > Has anybody on this ng had anything to do with this crowd? > > Are they legit or dodgy? > > If they are legit some of the results they claim to provide could be > worrying??? > > Regards > > Dave A No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.124/2596 - Release Date: 01/01/10 20:20:00

Hi Tony Unfortunately This is not my Adie Ireland, but thankyou very much for looking Thanks again Heather On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 20:30:23 +1000, Tony Moore <tony-moore@bigpond.com> wrote: > Dear Heather, > > Is "Adie" a nickname or family favourite version ????????? > Could this be your Adie?????????? > > DEATH > > Surname: IRELAND > Given Names: Ada Elizth > Event: D > Sex: > Spouse Surname/Father: Ireland Hy > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Cath MORRISON > Age: 18 > Age Code: > Birth Place: > Death Place: Forrest > Year: 1910 > Reg. Number: 5381 > . > BIRTH > . > Surname: IRELAND > Given Names: Ada Elizabeth > Event: B > Sex: F > Spouse Surname/Father: Wm Hy > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Cath MORRISON > Age: > Age Code: > Birth Place: BIRREGURRA > Death Place: > Year: 1892 > Reg. Number: 10671 > > > Cheers, > > Tony Moore > (Castle Hill, NSW) > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ > > On 1 Jan 2010 at 18:36, heather wrote: > > Date sent: Fri, 01 Jan 2010 18:36:34 +1000 > Subject: adie ireland > From: heather <vk4fkez@netspace.net.au> > To: genanz@rootsweb.com > >> >> Hi all im trying to find a death fpr Adie ireland i have her birth in >> Victoria at Romsey >> this would be greatly appreciated i have checked from 1914-1985, >> so i think she may have died as a infant or a young married lady???????? >> Kind regards >> Heather > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.123/2595 - Release Date: > 12/31/09 19:52:00 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

I thank those who responded. I had my suspicions but just wanted to see what others had to say! As soon as I saw the US$ I left very hurriedly! This is a great ng Dave A "Michael Lightfoot" <michael.lightfoot@pcug.org.au> wrote in message news:mailman.89.1262423560.14600.genanz@rootsweb.com... On Saturday 02 January 2010 19:21:10 Dave Aitchison wrote: > I have looked at a site called Australia Public Record Directory. > > The charges are i Year Database Membership US$29.95 > Premium Database Membership (Life) US$39.95 > If it was anything but suspect they would charge $A wouldn't they? We continue to warn people that almost ALL of these sites are shonky, some downright fraudulent and ALL of the information they CLAIM to offer is available elsewhere, sometimes free. For example the Australian phone directory is available online for FREE, as is the U.K. one. Save your money. if you really need records that aren't available for free, then join Ancestry or Findmypast or purchase CDs from Gould, etc... -- ==== Michael Lightfoot Canberra, Australia michael.lightfoot@pcug.org.au ====

I have looked at a site called Australia Public Record Directory. The charges are i Year Database Membership US$29.95 Premium Database Membership (Life) US$39.95 They claim to have the following Australian Resources Australia People Database Australia Public Database Australia Crime Database Email Address Lookup Australia Address Lookup Civil Records Database Court Records Database Australia Business Lookup as well as: Australia Phone Database NZ Phone Database UK Phone Database Canada Phone Database USA Phone Database They claim the Following Australia Directory Results First & Last Name Full Address Criminal History Background Records Public Records Phone Number History Civil Records On other parts of their site they also claim to have Genealogy databases (which is why my interest was piqued) Has anybody on this ng had anything to do with this crowd? Are they legit or dodgy? If they are legit some of the results they claim to provide could be worrying??? Regards Dave A

Hello Ken and Happy New Year to you too, Would you care to post a bit more details on your WILLIAMS please and what part of New England - I have a few in my database...... I may be able to help. Cheers Lynne, Visit our Website http://lynneandgrayeme.kinpendium.com/ On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 1:20 AM, Ken Davis <ken@azkiwis.com> wrote: > Time for a thank you and a happy new year wish to the contributors and > 'regular' members of this group. > > I'm a lurker - searching for Williams in the NSW New England Area - who one > day will make a trip down to go through everything I can find. > > I read most postings; one never knows, and have found little on Williams, > but lots of advice, information, articles and history. > > Thank you for your efforts in assisting; thank you for your tireless > research and help. > > And may 2010 be a Happy New Year for you all. > > > > Ken Davis > > Sonoran Desert, Arizona > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENANZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Is anyone old enough (I am) to remember in the very early days of Sydney televisin shows an 'Imre Panda' (a migrant) who presented a delightful programme called 'Journey into the land of dance' Joe

Dear Heather, Is "Adie" a nickname or family favourite version ????????? Could this be your Adie?????????? DEATH Surname: IRELAND Given Names: Ada Elizth Event: D Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Ireland Hy Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Cath MORRISON Age: 18 Age Code: Birth Place: Death Place: Forrest Year: 1910 Reg. Number: 5381 . BIRTH . Surname: IRELAND Given Names: Ada Elizabeth Event: B Sex: F Spouse Surname/Father: Wm Hy Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Cath MORRISON Age: Age Code: Birth Place: BIRREGURRA Death Place: Year: 1892 Reg. Number: 10671 Cheers, Tony Moore (Castle Hill, NSW) @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ On 1 Jan 2010 at 18:36, heather wrote: Date sent: Fri, 01 Jan 2010 18:36:34 +1000 Subject: adie ireland From: heather <vk4fkez@netspace.net.au> To: genanz@rootsweb.com > > Hi all im trying to find a death fpr Adie ireland i have her birth in > Victoria at Romsey > this would be greatly appreciated i have checked from 1914-1985, > so i think she may have died as a infant or a young married lady???????? > Kind regards > Heather No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.123/2595 - Release Date: 12/31/09 19:52:00

Hi all im trying to find a death fpr Adie ireland i have her birth in Victoria at Romsey this would be greatly appreciated i have checked from 1914-1985, so i think she may have died as a infant or a young married lady???????? Kind regards Heather vk4fkez@netspace.net.au -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

On Jan 1, 10:46 am, "MargM" <genk...@exemail.com.au> wrote: > "jones" <jo...@nowhere.com> wrote in message > > news:4b3d205a$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...> And I believe it is not free for the Victorian ones. I hope I am > > wrong. > > Hi Katherine > > I think VIC certs are the best of bargains . A small charge to check > the indexes  if you either dont have the CDs or  aren't near a library > that has them and a nearly instant service at only $17.50 per doc > > Mid last November I downloaded copy of 2 VIC certs and then had to > wait a day or so short of 4 WEEKS for transcriptions of 4 NSW docs > that cost $16.50 ea > > South AUS still dont have any on line indexes yet alone the excellent > download doc system that VIC has > >  The way all the States have a  completely different system makes it > look as though Federation  never happened > > Bye > > -- > MargM > Beautiful NSW Central Coast > NSW Total agreement. What is wrong in South Australia?

On Jan 1, 9:06 am, "jones" <jo...@nowhere.com> wrote: > And I believe it is not free for the Victorian ones. I hope I am wrong. > > Katherine > > "Kerry Raymond" <wrote in message > > > > > > > But no such joy with the Qld online BDMs, still births to 1914, marriages > > to 1934 and deaths to 1964. > > > Kerry This has always been the case, however you can download images of the certificates online.

"Kerry Raymond" <kraymond@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message news:p9ednSW8NvyQjaDWnZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d@westnet.com.au... > Happy new year at the NSW BDM indexes! > > Births now to 1909, Marriages to 1959, deaths to 1979! > http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/searchHistoricalRecords.htm > And a reminder to gene new comers that the NSW BDM Registery published birth indexes to 1918 on the Federation CD back in 1994 ................ 16 years ago ! Then got all thingy about privacy a few years later http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/script/name.asp doesnt share their privacy concerns Happy hunting in 2010 Bye -- MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast NSW Thats 16 year ago ! > >

"jones" <jones@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:4b3d205a$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au... > And I believe it is not free for the Victorian ones. I hope I am > wrong. > Hi Katherine I think VIC certs are the best of bargains . A small charge to check the indexes if you either dont have the CDs or aren't near a library that has them and a nearly instant service at only $17.50 per doc Mid last November I downloaded copy of 2 VIC certs and then had to wait a day or so short of 4 WEEKS for transcriptions of 4 NSW docs that cost $16.50 ea South AUS still dont have any on line indexes yet alone the excellent download doc system that VIC has The way all the States have a completely different system makes it look as though Federation never happened Bye -- MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast NSW