Surely the NLA have them and thus they will be in their online catalogue Chris "zanthia1967" <zanthia1967@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message news:83d05456-3750-44c2-9b02-d8761cf3ced3@22g2000yqr.googlegroups.com... > Hoping someone can point me in the right direction to find a complete > list of "black books" by Smee. Titles include Pioneer Register (at > least 5 volumes) and books about first, second and third fleet. I have > searched the web for a full list but the best I can do re the > listeings that Lilrarys have of their items. > I have found information in the books by Smee that have enabled me to > continue my research when other sources have run dry. By using his > family groups as a start point to aim my research I have been able to > verify people in family groups that I had previously not known about. > > Hoping someone can help me with the list.

Many thanks to Ruth & Lyn for your replies. It is still a mystery as she is listed at Bellette, Ann Harrison at Sorrel Cemetery and Harrison, Ann on the Tasmanian Pioneer Records. The search continues. I need to find a marriage after the death of her husband Jacob Bellette in 1815 and her death in 1842. Regards, Mags. Townsville.

Hoping someone can point me in the right direction to find a complete list of "black books" by Smee. Titles include Pioneer Register (at least 5 volumes) and books about first, second and third fleet. I have searched the web for a full list but the best I can do re the listeings that Lilrarys have of their items. I have found information in the books by Smee that have enabled me to continue my research when other sources have run dry. By using his family groups as a start point to aim my research I have been able to verify people in family groups that I had previously not known about. Hoping someone can help me with the list.

Hi Mags, There is a photo at http://www.australiancemeteries.com/tas/tas3.htm#anchor62895 then http://tinyurl.com/yggz4fk SACRED to the Memory of ANN HARRISON. Relict of JACOB BELLETT. SENr. who died Septr 10th 1842. Aged 70 Years. Farewell Mother a little time and we Who knew thee well and loved thee here One after one shall follow thee Like Pilgrims through the gate of fear (At least 8 more lines of verse follow here)http://www.thegardensfamily.com/cemeteries/Hobart/StDavids/index.htm Jacob BELLETT Arrived First Fleet 26-1-1788 Died 2-12-1815 Fellowship of First Fleeters 1988 Jacob BELLETT A free settler who departed this life on the 2 Dec 1815 Aged 27 years Tasmanian deaths Bellett Jacob Samuel died 18 Mar 1880 Father - Jacob Registration Place Sorell age 0 Reg. No.742 Harrison Ann Registration Place - Hobart Died 10 Sep 1842 Aged 70 Reg. No. 1176 Regards, -- Lynne, Sydney, AUSTRALIA "magsdags" <magsdags@internode.on.net> wrote in message news:mailman.191.1262738796.14600.genanz@rootsweb.com... > Hi, > Would anyone on the list live at Sorrel Tasmania please? > > I have been told that there is a headstone at Sorrel Cemetery by the water > of ANN HARRISON - Relict of Jacob Bellette 10/9/1842. > > Jacob Bellette was a First Fleeter and his wife was Ann Harpour, also a > convict. They were sent to Norfolk Island then to Tasmania. > > Jacob died 2/12/1813 and his headstone is at St. David's Park, Hobart. > > I was not aware that Ann had remarried. Did she marry a Mr. Harrison or > was the headstone incorrect as it clearly states relict of Jacob Bellette. > > I would love a digital photo of the headstone or if anyone on the list has > any further information on Ann's death I would be most grateful. > > Regards, > Mags. > Townsville, Qld.

Thanks Jenny Eliza was my 3 great grandmother. Regard Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny Chester" <jennychester@bordernet.com.au> Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.australia+nz To: <genanz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 8:53 PM Subject: Re: Death > Hi Brian > > On the NLA Australian Newspaper site > http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home there are articles in the Sydney > Morning Herald of 9 December and 13 December 1869 about the death of Eliza > Davis aged 65 who was killed by a train. > > cheers > > Jenny > > "brian skehan" <briansk@dodo.com.au> wrote in message > news:mailman.171.1262680282.14600.genanz@rootsweb.com... > Can anyone tell me if there is a cemetery in Towrang NSW. > I am looking for the death of Eliza Davis in 1869 She was hit by a train. > > > Regards Brian > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (7.0.0.514) > Database version: 6.14050 > http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENANZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (7.0.0.514) > Database version: 6.14050 > http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (7.0.0.514) Database version: 6.14060 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

I also have Ann harper marrying twice,first to jacob Bellette then to a Harrison. I have no details on Mr.Harrison. So I too would be interested in any information available. Regards Elaine In brisbane. ----- Original Message ----- From: "magsdags" <magsdags@internode.on.net> To: <genanz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: Help with Headstone at Sorrel Tasmania. > Hi, > Would anyone on the list live at Sorrel Tasmania please? > > I have been told that there is a headstone at Sorrel Cemetery by the > water of ANN HARRISON - Relict of Jacob Bellette 10/9/1842. > > Jacob Bellette was a First Fleeter and his wife was Ann Harpour, also a > convict. They were sent to Norfolk Island then to Tasmania. > > Jacob died 2/12/1813 and his headstone is at St. David's Park, Hobart. > > I was not aware that Ann had remarried. Did she marry a Mr. Harrison or > was the headstone incorrect as it clearly states relict of Jacob Bellette. > > I would love a digital photo of the headstone or if anyone on the list > has any further information on Ann's death I would be most grateful. > > Regards, > Mags. > Townsville, Qld. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENANZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi, Would anyone on the list live at Sorrel Tasmania please? I have been told that there is a headstone at Sorrel Cemetery by the water of ANN HARRISON - Relict of Jacob Bellette 10/9/1842. Jacob Bellette was a First Fleeter and his wife was Ann Harpour, also a convict. They were sent to Norfolk Island then to Tasmania. Jacob died 2/12/1813 and his headstone is at St. David's Park, Hobart. I was not aware that Ann had remarried. Did she marry a Mr. Harrison or was the headstone incorrect as it clearly states relict of Jacob Bellette. I would love a digital photo of the headstone or if anyone on the list has any further information on Ann's death I would be most grateful. Regards, Mags. Townsville, Qld.

At the FHS in GOulburn I found a list of burials at the Goulburn cemetery. One was of a member of my MOHR family (who apparently lived at Towrang for a while since at least one of the children was born there) but that might have been because apparently the child was buried in the Jewish section. Possibly there was a cemetery at Towrang itself that didn't have a Jewiash section, but it would be worth enquiring - I found them very helpful - located in the public library I seem to remember. good luck, Trisha __________________________________________________________________________________ See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now: http://au.movies.yahoo.com/session-times/

Hi Brian On the NLA Australian Newspaper site http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home there are articles in the Sydney Morning Herald of 9 December and 13 December 1869 about the death of Eliza Davis aged 65 who was killed by a train. cheers Jenny "brian skehan" <briansk@dodo.com.au> wrote in message news:mailman.171.1262680282.14600.genanz@rootsweb.com... Can anyone tell me if there is a cemetery in Towrang NSW. I am looking for the death of Eliza Davis in 1869 She was hit by a train. Regards Brian E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (7.0.0.514) Database version: 6.14050 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

Answered off line - regards, June ----- Original Message ----- From: "brian skehan" <briansk@dodo.com.au> To: <genanz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 5:33 PM Subject: Death > Can anyone tell me if there is a cemetery in Towrang NSW. > I am looking for the death of Eliza Davis in 1869 She was hit by a train. > > > Regards Brian > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (7.0.0.514) > Database version: 6.14050 > http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENANZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone tell me if there is a cemetery in Towrang NSW. I am looking for the death of Eliza Davis in 1869 She was hit by a train. Regards Brian E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (7.0.0.514) Database version: 6.14050 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

The Warrnambool Examiner Index James Harvey - photographer of Belfast. Produces souvenir of missionary vessel on its visit to the district (Edition date 20th Dec 1871) Photograhter of Belfast. To be given a concert prior to his departure (7th Nov 1871) complimentary benefit given to him as he elaves Belfast. To shift to Warrnambool and give musical instruction (1st Dec 1871) references then go on for 1872 for musical instructions, concerts, teacher of music, singing master etc. cheers Jenny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie" <joliffe@gmail.com> Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.australia+nz To: <genanz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 1:30 PM Subject: Re: J. Harvey, photographer, Belfast (Port Fairy) ... operating dates? > Susie Zada wrote: > > Hi Lesley, > > > > J Harvey, photographer, Gipps St, Belfast (Port Fairy) - 1868 > > > > For any earlier / other dates you would probably need to check local > > directories or burgess / electoral rolls etc. > > > > Regards ........ Susie Z > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: genanz-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:genanz-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > > Behalf Of Stuart Gregory > > Sent: Monday, 4 January 2010 12:14 PM > > To: genanz@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: J. Harvey, photographer, Belfast (Port Fairy) ... operating > > dates? > > > > On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 08:02:33 +0800, Lesley Albertson > > <albertson@exemail.com.au> wrote: > > > >> Hi Listers, > >> > >> I wonder, can SKS tell me the years when J. Harvey operated as a > >> photographer in Belfast (Port Fairy) in the Western District of Victoria? > >> > >> Have a photo by him dated 1853 ... which I *suspect* is too early. > >> > >> Thanks :-) > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> > >> Lesley > >> (In sunny Melbourne) > > > > Lesley, > > > > I would be very suspicious of any photo dated before about 1885. > > > There is a photograph taken in the Western District by J Harvey on the > Picture Australia website. Unfortunately is doesn't give the year of > the photo. > http://www.pictureaustralia.gov.au/apps/pictureaustralia;jsessionid=D7D30079 A13DAF8BD6720EC0B3E866D6?action=PADisplay&mode=display&rs=resultset-645890&n o=11 > > Julie > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENANZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

>From The Brisbane Courier, 25 November 1870 -- AHERN--On the 20th November, at the Sportsman's Arms Hotel, Queen-street, Timothy Patrick, the beloved son of Mary and John Ahern, aged 10 months. ------------------------------------------------ Historic Australian Newspapers, 1803 to 1954 http://ndpbeta.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home Aherns in Australian Records http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aherns/ahcrim.htm ------------------------------------------------

"Stuart Gregory" <stuart@nospampls.scss.com.au.invalid> wrote in message news:op.u5zhpybcojqke0@freenews.iinet.net.au... > On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 08:02:33 +0800, Lesley Albertson > <albertson@exemail.com.au> wrote: > >> Hi Listers, >> >> I wonder, can SKS tell me the years when J. Harvey operated as a >> photographer in Belfast (Port Fairy) in the Western District of >> Victoria? >> >> Have a photo by him dated 1853 ... which I *suspect* is too early. >> >> Thanks :-) >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> Lesley >> (In sunny Melbourne) > > Lesley, > > I would be very suspicious of any photo dated before about 1885. > > -- Hi Stuart Why would you ??? Earliest photo I have was taken in Melbourne in 1870 , next earliest was taken in 1872 in Sydney Bye -- MargM Beautiful Wyong Shire NSW

Hi Susie, Denise, Stuart and Julie, Many thanks to you all for your answers ... and 1868 would be correct, it is a photo of Maria THOMAS, who was *born* in 1853. In the pic, she is a young woman in a long dress - but she has a round, babyish face, and after checking Lenore Frost's _Dating Family Photos 1850-1920) for hair and dress style, I guessed 1869/70. (So, 1868 is just fine) :-) > J Harvey, photographer, Gipps St, Belfast (Port Fairy) - 1868 > Cheers, Lesley (In sunny Melbourne)

Hi Lesley, J Harvey, photographer, Gipps St, Belfast (Port Fairy) - 1868 For any earlier / other dates you would probably need to check local directories or burgess / electoral rolls etc. Regards ........ Susie Z -----Original Message----- From: genanz-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:genanz-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Gregory Sent: Monday, 4 January 2010 12:14 PM To: genanz@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: J. Harvey, photographer, Belfast (Port Fairy) ... operating dates? On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 08:02:33 +0800, Lesley Albertson <albertson@exemail.com.au> wrote: > Hi Listers, > > I wonder, can SKS tell me the years when J. Harvey operated as a > photographer in Belfast (Port Fairy) in the Western District of Victoria? > > Have a photo by him dated 1853 ... which I *suspect* is too early. > > Thanks :-) > > Cheers, > > > Lesley > (In sunny Melbourne) Lesley, I would be very suspicious of any photo dated before about 1885. -- Stuart Perth West Oz

On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 10:52:37 +1100, "MargM" <genknut@exemail.com.au> wrote: >Then got all thingy about privacy a few years later Being about the time one State went very Victorian about the matter and removed their on-line birth indexes to 1923. In the mean time you can get a certificate from England and Wales for anyone for any date which only goes to show how artificial and meaningless Australian restrictions are. Further given the current exchange rate they're cheaper than anything you can get in Australia. At least it's refreshing to see one Australian State has a more Western view on the matter, with on-line birth indexes to 1932. -- Bob

On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 10:52:14 +0800, MargM <genknut@exemail.com.au> wrote: > > "Stuart Gregory" <stuart@nospampls.scss.com.au.invalid> wrote in > message news:op.u5zhpybcojqke0@freenews.iinet.net.au... >> On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 08:02:33 +0800, Lesley Albertson >> <albertson@exemail.com.au> wrote: >> >>> Hi Listers, >>> >>> I wonder, can SKS tell me the years when J. Harvey operated as a >>> photographer in Belfast (Port Fairy) in the Western District of >>> Victoria? >>> >>> Have a photo by him dated 1853 ... which I *suspect* is too early. >>> >>> Thanks :-) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> >>> Lesley >>> (In sunny Melbourne) >> >> Lesley, >> >> I would be very suspicious of any photo dated before about 1885. >> >> -- > Hi Stuart > > Why would you ??? Earliest photo I have was taken in Melbourne in > 1870 , next earliest was taken in 1872 in Sydney > > Bye > Hello Marg, I simply meant that I would be careful about assuming a photo dated 1853 to be correct. There are many photos available for around the dates of your photos, but 1853 is quite early in the development of photographic plates and papers and the availability of such items. But then again, I can understand that a photographer of around that time may have taken a photo of himself. For a little bit more on the historic development of the camera you can go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_camera -- Stuart Perth West Oz To reply delete "nospampls." and ".invalid" from address http://stuart.scss.dyndns.info/FamilyTree/

Hi Listers, I wonder, can SKS tell me the years when J. Harvey operated as a photographer in Belfast (Port Fairy) in the Western District of Victoria? Have a photo by him dated 1853 ... which I *suspect* is too early. Thanks :-) Cheers, Lesley (In sunny Melbourne)

On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 08:02:33 +0800, Lesley Albertson <albertson@exemail.com.au> wrote: > Hi Listers, > > I wonder, can SKS tell me the years when J. Harvey operated as a > photographer in Belfast (Port Fairy) in the Western District of Victoria? > > Have a photo by him dated 1853 ... which I *suspect* is too early. > > Thanks :-) > > Cheers, > > > Lesley > (In sunny Melbourne) Lesley, I would be very suspicious of any photo dated before about 1885. -- Stuart Perth West Oz To reply delete "nospampls." and ".invalid" from address http://stuart.scss.dyndns.info/FamilyTree/