Hi Terry If you look up the NZ whitepages on the internet www.whitepages.co.nz you will find that there are two P J Dromgool - Auckland and Kaitaia. There is actually one Dromgool in Wellington in Kilbirnie (not PJ). Your friend could ring them and find out if they are related. Shirlee Wellington, NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Walsh" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 7:21 PM Subject: Patrick DROMGOOL in NZ > Good afternoon all from Perth Western Australia > > Is there anyone in New Zealand know of a Patrick DROMGOOL aged approx 52. > Could Patrick James DROMGOOL. A family member in Wellington has been > delivered a large package for him, containing a lot of documents. > > One is a Ref to the "Ahuriri River Trust", 26 Albert Street, Island Bay > dated 2006. The package was delivered to Unit 4/27 Maupuia Road Miramar > Wellington but he was not known there. > > The family member contacted me as I have a large database on the DROMGOOL > Family in New Zealand and the above Patrick is the only one that sits in > the > age bracket. > > Please contact me by email and if it's the correct person (can name his > wife > and Kids) I will forward the NZ connection info on > > > Kind regards > > > > Terry Walsh > Bayswater > WA 6053 > > "Genealogy is like hide and seek. They hide, I seek!" > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Diana, I have a different book to Susie's and Michael is also NOT listed : Norfolk Island 1788-1813: the people and their families by James Donohue. Just for your records. Best wishes, Kind regards, Liz www.pidgeon.info -----Original Message----- From: dianna charles [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, 1 September 2011 7:08 AM To: [email protected] Subject: NOrfolk Island Records Hi everyone Can someone tell me if there is a way of finding out when my Michael BYRNE came back from Norfolk Island he was sent there in September 30 1805. I'm still trying to pin point when his son's were born in 1806. I looked at the microfilm reel yesterday in reference to his being sent away but it does not state how long for. This was also recorded in the newspaper. Any help much appreciated. Kind regards Dianna

Dear Shirlee, There is a book which you can check. I hope that you can access it in NZ. If not, I will track down our library copy and do the look up for you - "Encyclopedia of Victoria Footballers" http://yprl.bibliocommons.com/item/show/495497027_the_encyclopedia_of_afl_fo otballers Kind regards, Liz www.pidgeon.info

Hi Kate and Shirlee Thanks for the info, We think we are on the track of him. It was Patrick Charles (had him in tree) Terry -----Original Message----- From: Shirlee Cantwell [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, 23 October 2011 4:40 PM To: Terry Walsh; [email protected] Subject: Re: Patrick DROMGOOL in NZ Hi Terry If you look up the NZ whitepages on the internet www.whitepages.co.nz you will find that there are two P J Dromgool - Auckland and Kaitaia. There is actually one Dromgool in Wellington in Kilbirnie (not PJ). Your friend could ring them and find out if they are related. Shirlee Wellington, NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Walsh" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 7:21 PM Subject: Patrick DROMGOOL in NZ > Good afternoon all from Perth Western Australia > > Is there anyone in New Zealand know of a Patrick DROMGOOL aged approx 52. > Could Patrick James DROMGOOL. A family member in Wellington has been > delivered a large package for him, containing a lot of documents. > > One is a Ref to the "Ahuriri River Trust", 26 Albert Street, Island Bay > dated 2006. The package was delivered to Unit 4/27 Maupuia Road Miramar > Wellington but he was not known there. > > The family member contacted me as I have a large database on the DROMGOOL > Family in New Zealand and the above Patrick is the only one that sits in > the > age bracket. > > Please contact me by email and if it's the correct person (can name his > wife > and Kids) I will forward the NZ connection info on > > > Kind regards > > > > Terry Walsh > Bayswater > WA 6053 > > "Genealogy is like hide and seek. They hide, I seek!" > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry, I should have said, has that addressed been tried and to what effect? Kate "Terry Walsh" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] > Good afternoon all from Perth Western Australia > > Is there anyone in New Zealand know of a Patrick DROMGOOL aged approx 52. > Could Patrick James DROMGOOL. A family member in Wellington has been > delivered a large package for him, containing a lot of documents. > > One is a Ref to the "Ahuriri River Trust", 26 Albert Street, Island Bay > dated 2006. The package was delivered to Unit 4/27 Maupuia Road Miramar > Wellington but he was not known there. > > The family member contacted me as I have a large database on the DROMGOOL > Family in New Zealand and the above Patrick is the only one that sits in > the > age bracket. > > Please contact me by email and if it's the correct person (can name his > wife > and Kids) I will forward the NZ connection info on > > > Kind regards > > > > Terry Walsh > Bayswater > WA 6053 > > "Genealogy is like hide and seek. They hide, I seek!" > > > > > > >

Hello Terry I don't know if this will help or hinder but this webpage has an address at Bay Island, Wellington and names Patrick Dromgool, with reference to the Ahuriri River. http://www.business.govt.nz/do-it-online/register-a-company/companydetails/1588621 Regards, Kate (Sydney, Australia) "Terry Walsh" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] > Good afternoon all from Perth Western Australia > > Is there anyone in New Zealand know of a Patrick DROMGOOL aged approx 52. > Could Patrick James DROMGOOL. A family member in Wellington has been > delivered a large package for him, containing a lot of documents. > > One is a Ref to the "Ahuriri River Trust", 26 Albert Street, Island Bay > dated 2006. The package was delivered to Unit 4/27 Maupuia Road Miramar > Wellington but he was not known there. > > The family member contacted me as I have a large database on the DROMGOOL > Family in New Zealand and the above Patrick is the only one that sits in > the > age bracket. > > Please contact me by email and if it's the correct person (can name his > wife > and Kids) I will forward the NZ connection info on > > > Kind regards > > > > Terry Walsh > Bayswater > WA 6053 > > "Genealogy is like hide and seek. They hide, I seek!" > > > > > > >

Good afternoon all from Perth Western Australia Is there anyone in New Zealand know of a Patrick DROMGOOL aged approx 52. Could Patrick James DROMGOOL. A family member in Wellington has been delivered a large package for him, containing a lot of documents. One is a Ref to the "Ahuriri River Trust", 26 Albert Street, Island Bay dated 2006. The package was delivered to Unit 4/27 Maupuia Road Miramar Wellington but he was not known there. The family member contacted me as I have a large database on the DROMGOOL Family in New Zealand and the above Patrick is the only one that sits in the age bracket. Please contact me by email and if it's the correct person (can name his wife and Kids) I will forward the NZ connection info on Kind regards Terry Walsh Bayswater WA 6053 "Genealogy is like hide and seek. They hide, I seek!"

On Sun, 23 Oct 2011 09:24:21 +1100, "Erica" <[email protected]> wrote: >The burial was in the Presbyterian section Rookwood, I've just also found >his wife's funeral notice which has the same "no female mourners" note. The >burials took place in 1925 and 1935. It has been suggested that >traditionally the Scots did not have women at funerals and these burials may >have taken place at the time when this was changing and women were starting >to attend. Some families obviously not approving the modern move may have >wanted to stay with tradition. >thanks for the reply >Erica > >"Kerry Raymond" wrote in message news: >What religion was the deceased? Some religions have a custom of burials >being conducted only by men. >Kerry > > I've not seen it advertised like that. But as recently as 1960-70s I have a friend whose Scots mother did not even attend her own husband's funeral, as it just 'wasn't done'. She was adhering to an old tradition.

>From The Queenslander, 5 April 1913 - REMINISCENCES OF AN OLD GOLD DIGGER. By Frank Shellard. In the early part of the fifties there was a great-rush to the "Ovens" gold-field, Victoria. Beechworth is the principal town in the "Ovens" district, and it is on the old Sydney-road from Melbourne, and near, the Murray River, Spring Creek runs through Beechworth and empties itself into Reid's Creek, which discharges itself over some falls into the Woolshed Creek. . . . The diggings were always a good market for the sale of horses and cattle, and horse thieves and cattle duffers were doing well. A number of them had their haunts in the Snowy Mountains, where they were not disturbed by prospectors. Some of them got too bold at last, and got caught. One, who had a station above Boulders on the Mitta Mitta River, always went by the name of Mitta Mitta Jack. He was caught selling horses that were owned in Beechworth. He was there tried and got ten years' penal servitude, with all his property confiscated. His friends, however, drove nearly all his stock away to the ranges until the storm blew away. ------------------------------------------------ Historic Australian Newspapers, 1803 to 1954 http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper Aherns in Australian Records http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aherns/ahcrim.htm ------------------------------------------------

The burial was in the Presbyterian section Rookwood, I've just also found his wife's funeral notice which has the same "no female mourners" note. The burials took place in 1925 and 1935. It has been suggested that traditionally the Scots did not have women at funerals and these burials may have taken place at the time when this was changing and women were starting to attend. Some families obviously not approving the modern move may have wanted to stay with tradition. thanks for the reply Erica "Kerry Raymond" wrote in message news: What religion was the deceased? Some religions have a custom of burials being conducted only by men. Kerry

What religion was the deceased? Some religions have a custom of burials being conducted only by men. Kerry

As I understand it, at some time periods it was customary for the funeral to be attended only by men. The women stayed at home preparing food etc for the wake. Chris "Erica" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] >I just came across a newspaper funeral notice with this stipulation: "By >request, no flowers. No female mourners." Was it was a case of not >wanting wailing women at the graveside, this man had four daughters so it >seems a bit mean to exclude them - has anyone else seen this before? Will >probably never know the reason why, but very curious. > > cheers > Erica >

I just came across a newspaper funeral notice with this stipulation: "By request, no flowers. No female mourners." Was it was a case of not wanting wailing women at the graveside, this man had four daughters so it seems a bit mean to exclude them - has anyone else seen this before? Will probably never know the reason why, but very curious. cheers Erica

Hi Everyone, I have found a couple of lists and been directed to some websites that look very promising. Thank you everyone who has replied. Cheers Angie On 20-10-2011 5:51 PM, Andrea Roberts wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > > > Does anyone know of a mailing list that would cover Goulburn, Gunning > > and Yass areas? > > Have looked on rootsweb but not knowing NSW all that much am at a loss > > as too which one I should be looking at (that is if there is one that > > covers this area) > > Would be grateful if someone could point me in the right direction. > > > > Cheers > > Angie > > > > Some family trees have beautiful leaves, and some have just a bunch of > > nuts. > > Remember, it is the nuts that make the tree worth shaking. > > ~Author Unknown > > > > > > Andrea Roberts....in Melbourne, Australia. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Searching for Pyke/Millsom/Goodman/McCann/Rorke/Presnell/ > > Moorhouse/Millard/Taylor/Toppin > > http://www.1stopmedia.org/angieroberts/index.html > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 1522/3966 - Release Date: 10/21/11 Some family trees have beautiful leaves, and some have just a bunch of nuts. Remember, it is the nuts that make the tree worth shaking. ~Author Unknown Andrea Roberts....in Melbourne, Australia. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Searching for Pyke/Millsom/Goodman/McCann/Rorke/Presnell/ Moorhouse/Millard/Taylor/Toppin http://www.1stopmedia.org/angieroberts/index.html

Hi Angie Below are two webpages that may be helpful - I found them so. <http://www.gundaroo.info/genealogy/index.htm> Webpage by Graeme Challinor - lots about Gunning. Perhaps he could direct you to one that covers Goulburn and Yass as well. <http://members.webone.com.au/~sgrieves/deaths_yass_courier.htm> Deaths in Yass Courier 1857-1905 Regards Vicki Smith Geelong On 20-10-2011 5:51 PM, Andrea Roberts wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Does anyone know of a mailing list that would cover Goulburn, Gunning > and Yass areas? > Have looked on rootsweb but not knowing NSW all that much am at a loss > as too which one I should be looking at (that is if there is one that > covers this area) > Would be grateful if someone could point me in the right direction. > > Cheers > Angie > > Some family trees have beautiful leaves, and some have just a bunch of > nuts. > Remember, it is the nuts that make the tree worth shaking. > ~Author Unknown > > > Andrea Roberts....in Melbourne, Australia. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Searching for Pyke/Millsom/Goodman/McCann/Rorke/Presnell/ > Moorhouse/Millard/Taylor/Toppin > http://www.1stopmedia.org/angieroberts/index.html >

>From The Sydney Morning Herald, 16 July 1869 - The Ovens and Murray Advertiser is responsible for the following:-- "In addition to Power, the robber, we have now in this district the notorious Mitta Mitta Jack. M'Kay, too, once of the Middle Creek, is at large; and we are to be further blessed in a short time with the presence of the wretch Toke, who is well known to have committed such dreadful crimes in the Omeo district and thereabouts. point out Mitta Mitta Jack and Toke as desperate and irreclaimable criminals, but they have placed themselves beyond all consideration of this kind. If we have a tiger or a wolf in our vicinity, shall we not say so because they wear the outward shape of man? There is nothing more probable than that Power has been lying by, awaiting the arrival of his gaol companions in this district." ------------------------------------------------ Historic Australian Newspapers, 1803 to 1954 http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper Aherns in Australian Records http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aherns/ahcrim.htm ------------------------------------------------

Please help, I have been using family tree maker 2011 for the last twelve months no problem, and this has been happening for about a month (1) when i try to back it up, it says the file name is too long, (2) that it also needs compacting (which I do) (3) says it has encountered a problem and shuts down do i need to un-install everything, and re-install..... TIA-- Tiffin ..........Up North/Down Under

I don't know about an archive, but if he played for one of the big teams, then his name will appear in numerous newspaper articles from the sporting section. Take a look here: http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper?q=

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Your Archibald Benjamin PURSELL was born England PURSELL Archibald Benjamin Marylebone 1a 488, 1865 Do you have access to Ancestry? Let me know. Your family history is about to become very interesting. Regards, Kate (Sydney, Australia) "krell" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]m... > Thanks for the extensive info. > I just found a note (without source, unfortunately) in my tree info > that says that Archibald Benjamin Purcell's parents were Joseph and > Mary Anne Crook ( the same info that you have supplied for the parents > of Selina Grace Pursell and her siblings. NSW BDM death record has his > parents as Joseph and Emma. Bit of conflicting info, but will do some > more research on the apparent link. > Thanks again > > > On Oct 20, 7:45 pm, "Kate Spencer" <[email protected]> wrote: >> Here's the whole family but could not find an Archibald Benjamin Pursell >> (with any variation of spelling. >> Perhaps he was a cousin? >> >> Very sad, so many died as babies. >> >> Digger - Federation Index. Victoria 1889-1901 >> >> Surname: PURSELL >> Given Names: Grace Selina >> Event: M >> Sex: >> Spouse Surname/Father: OXLEY >> Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Saml Jas >> Age: >> Age Code: >> Birth Place: SY >> Death Place: >> Year: 1901 >> Reg. Number: 5309 >> >> Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 >> >> Surname: PURSSELL >> Given Names: Martha >> Event: B >> Spouse Surname/Father: Joseph >> Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary Ann CROOK >> Age: >> Sex: >> Birth Place: PRAH >> Death Place: >> Year: 1861 >> Reg Number: 6595 >> Denomination: >> Parish: >> Fiche: >> >> Surname: PURSELL >> Given Names: Emma >> Event: B >> Spouse Surname/Father: Joseph >> Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary Ann CROOK >> Age: >> Sex: >> Birth Place: PRAH >> Death Place: >> Year: 1863 >> Reg Number: 16662 >> Denomination: >> Parish: >> Fiche: >> >> Surname: PURSELL >> Given Names: Joseph Benjamin >> Event: B >> Spouse Surname/Father: Joseph >> Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary Ann CROOK >> Age: >> Sex: >> Birth Place: MELB >> Death Place: >> Year: 1865 >> Reg Number: 5273 >> Denomination: >> Parish: >> Fiche: >> >> Surname: PURSELL >> Given Names: Arthur >> Event: B >> Spouse Surname/Father: Joseph >> Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary Ann CROOK >> Age: >> Sex: >> Birth Place: S YARRA >> Death Place: >> Year: 1866 >> Reg Number: 24132 >> Denomination: >> Parish: >> Fiche: >> >> Surname: PURSATE >> Given Names: Rose Lucretia >> Event: B >> Spouse Surname/Father: Joseph >> Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary Ann CROOK >> Age: >> Sex: >> Birth Place: SOUTH YARRA >> Death Place: >> Year: 1867 >> Reg Number: 24759 >> Denomination: >> Parish: >> Fiche: >> >> Surname: PURSELL >> Given Names: Arthur Grenville >> Event: B >> Spouse Surname/Father: Joseph >> Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary Ann CROOK >> Age: >> Sex: >> Birth Place: MELB >> Death Place: >> Year: 1870 >> Reg Number: 11889 >> Denomination: >> Parish: >> Fiche: >> >> Surname: PURSELL >> Given Names: Selina Grace >> Event: B >> Spouse Surname/Father: Joseph >> Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary Ann CROOK >> Age: >> Sex: >> Birth Place: MELB >> Death Place: >> Year: 1872 >> Reg Number: 5694 >> Denomination: >> Parish: >> Fiche: >> >> Surname: PURSELL >> Given Names: Florence Isabella >> Event: B >> Spouse Surname/Father: Joseph >> Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary Ann CROOK >> Age: >> Sex: >> Birth Place: S YARRA >> Death Place: >> Year: 1874 >> Reg Number: 25961 >> Denomination: >> Parish: >> Fiche: >> >> Surname: PURSELL >> Given Names: Kathleen Alice >> Event: B >> Spouse Surname/Father: Joseph >> Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary Ann CROOK >> Age: >> Sex: >> Birth Place: SOUTH YARRA >> Death Place: >> Year: 1877 >> Reg Number: 25145 >> Denomination: >> Parish: >> Fiche: >> >> Surname: PURSELL >> Given Names: Joseph Sydney >> Event: B >> Spouse Surname/Father: Joseph >> Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary Ann CROOK >> Age: >> Sex: >> Birth Place: MELB >> Death Place: >> Year: 1879 >> Reg Number: 19461 >> Denomination: >> Parish: >> Fiche: >> >> DEATHS >> >> Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 >> >> Surname: PURSSELL >> Given Names: Martha >> Event: D >> Spouse Surname/Father: Joseph >> Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary Ann CROOK >> Age: 10D >> Sex: >> Birth Place: PRAH >> Death Place: >> Year: 1861 >> Reg Number: 4085 >> Denomination: >> Parish: >> Fiche: >> >> Surname: PURSELL >> Given Names: Joseph Benjamin >> Event: D >> Spouse Surname/Father: Joseph >> Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary Ann CROOK >> Age: 3W >> Sex: >> Birth Place: MELB >> Death Place: >> Year: 1865 >> Reg Number: 2589 >> Denomination: >> Parish: >> Fiche: >> >> Surname: PURSELL >> Given Names: Arthur >> Event: D >> Spouse Surname/Father: Joseph >> Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary Ann CROOK >> Age: 17W >> Sex: >> Birth Place: MELB >> Death Place: >> Year: 1866 >> Reg Number: 12039 >> Denomination: >> Parish: >> Fiche: >> >> Surname: PURSELL >> Given Names: Rose Lucretia >> Event: D >> Spouse Surname/Father: Joseph >> Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary Ann CROOK >> Age: 6M >> Sex: >> Birth Place: MELB >> Death Place: >> Year: 1868 >> Reg Number: 5240 >> Denomination: >> Parish: >> Fiche: >> >> Surname: PURSELL >> Given Names: Emma >> Event: D >> Spouse Surname/Father: Joseph >> Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary Ann CROOK >> Age: 11 >> Sex: >> Birth Place: MELB >> Death Place: >> Year: 1874 >> Reg Number: 6353 >> Denomination: >> Parish: >> Fiche: >> >> Surname: PURSELL >> Given Names: Joseph Sydney >> Event: D >> Spouse Surname/Father: Joseph >> Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary Ann CROOK >> Age: 6M >> Sex: >> Birth Place: STH YARRA >> Death Place: >> Year: 1879 >> Reg Number: 11871 >> Denomination: >> Parish: >> Fiche: >> >> "krell" <[email protected]> wrote in message >> >> news:[email protected]m... >> >> > I have a Grace Selena Purcell b 1872 (parents unknown) in Warrnambool >> > Vic in 1872. She married a Samuel J Oxley in 1891 in Warrnambool. >> > Samuels sister Ada Oxley married a Archibald Benjamin Pursell in >> > Sydney in 1892. From an article on his death he would have been born >> > about 1865. >> > Can someone help lookup if there is a birth for Archibald in Victoria? >> > (and what parents) and look up the parents for Grace? >> > Most likely these Purcells are brother and sister but I need some >> > evidence. >> > Thanks in advance >> > Paul Bech > >