Hi Would anyone have access to the Victorian BDM CD's or fiche and could look up the Birth of Rosaleen Margot EGAN born c1909 possibly at Caulfield please? Happy New Year to all. Many thanks Kerrie NSW

Wishing everyone a Happy New Year with many brick walls falling down and new family being met. -- Di Maloney Vic. Australia

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See if you can contact them through email.www.aec.gov.au/  there may be another way you can obtain the information. Cheers Jewelly ________________________________ From: Kerry Raymond <[email protected]> To: Sent: Saturday, 31 December 2011 7:59 AM Subject: Re: Thanks to All. > Go to your LOCAL Electoral Office of Australia That could be a bit challenging for a man who lives in Arizona? :-) >>Ken Davis >>Sonoran Desert, Arizona ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would like to thank Clare and Jon for helping with the name Job. Have a very Happy New Year. Gail Gail Parish Pittsworth Australia [email protected] Researching; Flesser, Haack, Lightbody, Orr, Ditzell,Parish

Hello Listers, Could sks help me with the christian name Job, would this be short for something.? This name hasn't appeared before in the family tree. Cheers Gail Gail Parish Pittsworth Australia [email protected] Researching; Flesser, Haack, Lightbody, Orr, Ditzell,Parish

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Hi Ada, Thank you so much for this. I am planning to head to Williamstown by the ferry so having the addresses pinpointed as much as possible will help when walking. I really do appreciate your help. Thank you. Regards Pat -----Original Message----- From: Ada Ackerly [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, 29 December 2011 1:31 PM To: Pat Wade Subject: Re: Williamstown Naval Dockyards On 26/12/2011 7:06 PM, Pat Wade wrote: > Hi, > > > > My next query is the Williamstown Naval Dockyards. > I have information that gives the address as opposite Nelson Place - > Well this is quite a long area. I know the pier that the ferries dock > at these days and am wondering if it is, as you face this pier, to the > left or to the right. To the left > > On the Google maps there is a Transfield Shipbuilding - would this be > it????? (opposite Titanic restaurant) The Dockyards have been, variously, Alfred Graving Dock (1870) State Shipbuilding Yards R.A.N. Shipbuilding Yards Transfield Shipbuilding Yards. Regards Ada Ackerly

On 29/12/2011 8:05 AM, Kerry Raymond wrote: >> The Edward's "Howson" middle name is his mothers maiden name and Cyril's >> middle name is his grandmothers maiden name > > This kind of naming is very common in some families, usually for boys, > but sometimes also for girls. > >> And last but not least by Grandmother who's brother's these two were >> had the middle name "Ulian" - any ideas where that might have come from. > > Well, Ulian does come up as a surname but not as a particularly common > one (e.g. it appears once in the entire FreeBMD). > > However, when dealing with rare and unusual names, it is worth > considering whether you are seeing a transcription error. In this case, > Ulian as a middle name for a girl looks a lot like a transcription error > of "Lilian". Does her name consistently appear as Ulian in all her BDM > records? > > Kerry > > Thanks for that. I've now done some more checking and it is Lilian, never new Granma's full name was Dora Lilian Freda Crockford. Alan

Hi Gail, Most unlikely to be a contraction - straight from Job in the Bible. Jon Martin. > From: Gail Parish <[email protected]> > Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 17:04:33 +1000 > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Help with name > > Hello Listers, > > Could sks help me with the christian name Job, would this be short for > something.? > This name hasn't appeared before in the family tree. > > Cheers > Gail > > > Gail Parish > Pittsworth > Australia > [email protected] > Researching; Flesser, Haack, Lightbody, Orr, Ditzell,Parish > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

> The Edward's "Howson" middle name is his mothers maiden name and Cyril's > middle name is his grandmothers maiden name This kind of naming is very common in some families, usually for boys, but sometimes also for girls. > And last but not least by Grandmother who's brother's these two were > had the middle name "Ulian" - any ideas where that might have come from. Well, Ulian does come up as a surname but not as a particularly common one (e.g. it appears once in the entire FreeBMD). However, when dealing with rare and unusual names, it is worth considering whether you are seeing a transcription error. In this case, Ulian as a middle name for a girl looks a lot like a transcription error of "Lilian". Does her name consistently appear as Ulian in all her BDM records? Kerry

Hi, I'm just curious about a naming practice in one branch of my family and was wondering if this is a normal late 19th Century thing One of my relatives is Edward Clifford Howson Crockford and other is Cyril Kinder Crockford The Edward's "Howson" middle name is his mothers maiden name and Cyril's middle name is his grandmothers maiden name And last but not least by Grandmother who's brother's these two were had the middle name "Ulian" - any ideas where that might have come from. Note: I'm a newbie at this so be kind :) Alan

Pat, As far as I can remember when visiting Williamstown both as a child then teenager and adult, it was always called Nelson Place, BUT, having said that my brain is in senior mode more often than not. I also googled 13 Nelson St Williamstown and it shows Transfield Shipbuilding but google earth pinpoints it as Port Phillip Wool Processing and the address changes to 33 Tourist Drive. The Vic Lands Department (if they are still called that) may be able to help with old maps of the area or even the Council Archives. Di "Pat Wade" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] > Hi, > > I am still trying to tie up loose ends with my > CAITHNESS family of Williamstown. > > I now have notes - > 1) 1864 Council Rates Marg. Caithness rented a > timber house in Little Nelson St, Williamstown. > > 2) 1864 - Marriage certificate of her daughter > Jane Caithness said Margaret lived at 13 Nelson > Street, Williamstown. > > There is NO Nelson Street (that I can find) there > is Nelson Place and Little Nelson Place and Street > in 1905. (it is the same road way but in the > middle it is called Little Nelson Place.) > > Now from checking things Nelson Place and Little > Nelson Street are two different streets and it > would appear if I have read things correctly that > Little Nelson Street/place is now Aitken Street. > > I wonder if any ones knows if there are any Sands > & McDougall or other directories that are around > 1864, that I could check out what they have for > the address?? > > > > Thank you > Pat > > > > > > >

Hi, I am still trying to tie up loose ends with my CAITHNESS family of Williamstown. I now have notes - 1) 1864 Council Rates Marg. Caithness rented a timber house in Little Nelson St, Williamstown. 2) 1864 - Marriage certificate of her daughter Jane Caithness said Margaret lived at 13 Nelson Street, Williamstown. There is NO Nelson Street (that I can find) there is Nelson Place and Little Nelson Place and Street in 1905. (it is the same road way but in the middle it is called Little Nelson Place.) Now from checking things Nelson Place and Little Nelson Street are two different streets and it would appear if I have read things correctly that Little Nelson Street/place is now Aitken Street. I wonder if any ones knows if there are any Sands & McDougall or other directories that are around 1864, that I could check out what they have for the address?? Thank you Pat

Hi Brian, I googled and found the following info Dartmoor District Pioneers & History Pioneers and Local History from the Glenelg & Wannon Region at http://www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/dartmoor/ They may be able to help y ou. Good luck, Di "brian skehan" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] I have just found my GG Grandmother who I have been research for (for abut 25 years). Ellen Tobin born abour 1933 Cork to Ellen Quin and John Tobin. Ellen married John Ritchie about 1855 and had a daughter Annie (my great grandmother)1856 in Limerick? Ireland. Ellen came to a Australia in 1858 on the Admiral Boxer to meet with her husband John Ritchie on the goldfields near Geelong. Further research has Ellen marrying Henry Blood at Tarraville in 1859. In the Dartmoor Cemetery is a large board with a reference to John Ritchie dying in the battle of Sebastopol 1854/1855. Henry and Ellen resided in Dartmoor at Mumbannar and they had another 5 children . 1.Margaret Bood b 1860. married William Hailes 2.James Henry Blood.b1864 d 1876 3.John James Blood b 1864 married Ellen Ursular Sutton 4.Marie Blood b 1866 d 1878 5. Ellen Blood b 1861 married George Williams. Can any one help with the descendents of Henry and Ellen Blood? TIA Brian ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 9.0.0.888, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18900) http://www.pctools.com/ ======= -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

I have just found my GG Grandmother who I have been research for (for abut 25 years). Ellen Tobin born abour 1933 Cork to Ellen Quin and John Tobin. Ellen married John Ritchie about 1855 and had a daughter Annie (my great grandmother)1856 in Limerick? Ireland. Ellen came to a Australia in 1858 on the Admiral Boxer to meet with her husband John Ritchie on the goldfields near Geelong. Further research has Ellen marrying Henry Blood at Tarraville in 1859. In the Dartmoor Cemetery is a large board with a reference to John Ritchie dying in the battle of Sebastopol 1854/1855. Henry and Ellen resided in Dartmoor at Mumbannar and they had another 5 children . 1.Margaret Bood b 1860. married William Hailes 2.James Henry Blood.b1864 d 1876 3.John James Blood b 1872 married Ellen Ursular Sutton 4.Marie Blood b 1866 d 1878 5. Ellen Blood b 1861 married George Williams. Can any one help with the descendents of Henry and Ellen Blood? TIA Brian ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 9.0.0.888, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18900) http://www.pctools.com/ ======= > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ======= > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 9.0.0.888, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18900) > http://www.pctools.com/ > ======= ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 9.0.0.888, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18940) http://www.pctools.com/ ======= -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

This might also help you. http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4323 Di "Pat Wade" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] > Hi, > > My last query proved interesting - I found that > the street numbers in Douglas Pde changed at least > 3 times between 1870 and now. (pre 1905, post > 1905 and now) > > Today #63 would be in the middle of the road cnr > Douglas Pde and Stevedore St (well actually no > #63) and in 1905 it would be 1/2 way between > Stevedore St and John St and in 1870 it was on the > corner of John St and Douglas Pde. > > The house I want is not there, of course, but in > the throes of searching I did find a probable > similar type.:-) > > My next query is the Williamstown Naval Dockyards. > I have information that gives the address as > opposite Nelson Place - Well this is quite a long > area. I know the pier that the ferries dock at > these days and am wondering if it is, as you face > this pier, to the left or to the right. > > I have tried googling - no actual address > I have tried going through all the MMBW 1905 maps > but I seem to be going round in circles (maybe not > using the right search terms) > > On the Google maps there is a Transfield > Shipbuilding - would this be it????? (opposite > Titanic restaurant) > > Thank you and a Happy and Safe New Year to all > Pat > >

Hi Pat, Wikipedia has a little bit about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Williamstown_Dockyard I might be able to get more information from t e Navy Museum at HMAS Cerberus when they open again. Will gat back toyou unless you let me now that you have found it. Cheers, Di "Pat Wade" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] > Hi, > > My last query proved interesting - I found that > the street numbers in Douglas Pde changed at least > 3 times between 1870 and now. (pre 1905, post > 1905 and now) > > Today #63 would be in the middle of the road cnr > Douglas Pde and Stevedore St (well actually no > #63) and in 1905 it would be 1/2 way between > Stevedore St and John St and in 1870 it was on the > corner of John St and Douglas Pde. > > The house I want is not there, of course, but in > the throes of searching I did find a probable > similar type.:-) > > My next query is the Williamstown Naval Dockyards. > I have information that gives the address as > opposite Nelson Place - Well this is quite a long > area. I know the pier that the ferries dock at > these days and am wondering if it is, as you face > this pier, to the left or to the right. > > I have tried googling - no actual address > I have tried going through all the MMBW 1905 maps > but I seem to be going round in circles (maybe not > using the right search terms) > > On the Google maps there is a Transfield > Shipbuilding - would this be it????? (opposite > Titanic restaurant) > > Thank you and a Happy and Safe New Year to all > Pat > >