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    1. Re: smith
    2. Di Maloney
    3. You can look it up yourself by going to a Vic Electoral Office if you are in Victoria or State Library where they have the up to date electoral rolls. Di "merry" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]m... >a william or ray smith from warburton area vic on the electoral rolls > around 1962 or later . if anyone would be able to look this up for me > please I would be grateful regards merry

    03/19/2012 04:29:00
    1. Jesus Christ, the son of God is also Almighty God.
    2. Jope
    3. n order to undo the fall of Adam and redeem mankind ,Jesus had to take on human nature and live the human condition. "For surely it is not angels he helps, but Abraham’s descendants. For this reason he had to be made like his brothers in every way. Hebrews 2v16-17 Now having overcome sin and death, he has fully retrieved his divine nature ,being Almighty God as to his spirit and the prototype of the new , perfect, immortal and glorified man as to his body. "And, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him " Hebrews 5v9 The following passages testify of his Divinity. "But about the Son he says, Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever, and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom." Hebrews 1v8 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it." John 1v1-3 "The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth. " John 1v14 "And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, Let all God’s angels worship him." Hebrews 1v6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor,Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace." Isaiah 9v6 "By him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. " Colossians 1v16-17 "We know also that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true. And we are in him who is true—even in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life." 1 John 5v20 "Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!" John 20v28 "Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him; and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen "I am the Alpha and the Omega, says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.” Revelation 1v7-8 "Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death— even death on a cross! Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." Philippians 2v6-11

    03/19/2012 02:24:57
    1. Re: smith
    2. merry
    3. On Mar 19, 10:29 pm, "Di Maloney" <[email protected]> wrote: > You can look it up yourself by going to a Vic Electoral Office if you are in > Victoria or State Library where they have the up to date electoral rolls. > > Di"merry" <[email protected]> wrote in message > > news:[email protected]bb.googlegroups.com... > > > > >a william or ray smith from warburton area vic  on the electoral rolls > > around 1962 or later . if anyone would be able to look this up for me > > please I would be grateful   regards merry- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Di thank you for your fast response . I am unable to get to the state library to research that, but thank you so much anyway merry

    03/18/2012 11:58:51
    1. smith
    2. merry
    3. a william or ray smith from warburton area vic on the electoral rolls around 1962 or later . if anyone would be able to look this up for me please I would be grateful regards merry

    03/18/2012 09:53:51
    1. WALTER WILLIAM SMITH
    2. merry
    3. would anyone be able to find the latest entry in the vic electoral rolls from around melbourne for a WALTER WILLIAM SMITH thank you merry

    03/18/2012 09:51:03
    1. vic electoral rolls
    2. merry
    3. Hi would anyone be able to find the surname smith from warburton I think his name was william or ray smith looking for around 1962 on the electoral rolls when i last had contact. I realise this is a difficult ask seeing how common that name is . thank you so much merry

    03/18/2012 09:48:42
    1. Re: Excerpts from AUS/NZL newspapers
    2. Dennis Ahern
    3. >From The Hobart Mercury, 19 December 1912 - NEW TOWN At the New Town Police Court yesterday, before the Warden (Col. St. Hill) and Mr. W. Rousell, J.P., . . . For using bad language in the Maypole Inn on the 10th inst., Walter Ahearn was fined £1, with costs 15s . . . ------------------------------------------------ Historic Australian Newspapers, 1803 to 1954 http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper Aherns in Australian Records http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aherns/ahcrim.htm ------------------------------------------------

    03/18/2012 04:27:33
    1. Re: Vic Lookup please. John Strachan, death between 1869 and 1877
    2. Phil Doherty
    3. These are the only 2 I could see It helps if you have the parents names . Philomena Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 Surname: STRACHAN Given Names: John Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: William Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Margaret DUNN Age: 21 Sex: Birth Place: MELB Death Place: Year: 1875 Reg Number: 7397 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: STRACHAN Given Names: John Smith Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: Robert Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Jane Henderson SMITH Age: 49 Sex: Birth Place: DUNDEE Death Place: Year: 1879 Reg Number: 1945 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: "krell" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]... > Hi. I am looking for the death of a John Strachan between 1869 and > 1877 in Victoria (husband of Agnes Eliza Barclay, Agnes died 8 Aug, > 1879 in Windsor, Melbourne Victoria). > Thanks

    03/17/2012 09:03:03
    1. Vic Lookup please. John Strachan, death between 1869 and 1877
    2. krell
    3. Hi. I am looking for the death of a John Strachan between 1869 and 1877 in Victoria (husband of Agnes Eliza Barclay, Agnes died 8 Aug, 1879 in Windsor, Melbourne Victoria). Thanks

    03/16/2012 06:12:39
    1. Re: Would Bigamy be a ground for divorce in 1898
    2. Doing some research on Trove the other day and I found a woman who was already married, then married under another name and she was charged with bigamy and taken to court. It is believed that in UK during second WW a third of the prisoners were a result of bigamy. I guess you didn't need all the proof then that you do now. People just married under another name just as they went to War under another name. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Doherty" <[email protected]> Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.australia+nz To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 5:35 PM Subject: Re: Would Bigamy be a ground for divorce in 1898 > Thank you for your thoughts. > Philomena > > > "D. Stussy" <[email protected]> wrote in message > news:[email protected] >> "Phil Doherty" <[email protected]> wrote in message >> news:aUA6r.4422$%[email protected] >>> Could someone please help with a question re Divorce ? >>> >>> Would a lady need to apply for a divorce if her husband had committed >>> bigamy?. >>> Family history says it was a bigamous marriage.If it was were they >> married >>> in the eyes of the law >> >> I agree with the other answer that says/implies that it is a void >> marriage >> if this is with a second or subsequent spouse, but I also must point out >> that for the first spouse who was lawfully married, a divorce would be >> necessary. >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

    03/15/2012 12:22:27
    1. Re: Would Bigamy be a ground for divorce in 1898
    2. Phil Doherty
    3. Thank you for your thoughts. Philomena "D. Stussy" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] > "Phil Doherty" <[email protected]> wrote in message > news:aUA6r.4422$%[email protected] >> Could someone please help with a question re Divorce ? >> >> Would a lady need to apply for a divorce if her husband had committed >> bigamy?. >> Family history says it was a bigamous marriage.If it was were they > married >> in the eyes of the law > > I agree with the other answer that says/implies that it is a void marriage > if this is with a second or subsequent spouse, but I also must point out > that for the first spouse who was lawfully married, a divorce would be > necessary. > >

    03/15/2012 11:35:36
    1. Re: Would Bigamy be a ground for divorce in 1898
    2. Phil Doherty
    3. . Thank you for your help Ron Philomena "Ron Bass" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] > On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 00:15:42 +1100, Doug Laidlaw > <[email protected]> wrote: > >>It occurred to me afterwards: if she wanted to remarry, having a piece of >>paper getting rid of her existing marriage is easier than asking the >>celebrant to draw a conclusion of law. >> > > I wonder if they had an agreement that he'd pay for the divorce as > long as she never mentioned officially that he'd married her > bigamously? As long a she didn't file a complaint, he could avoid > legal consequences? > > -Ron

    03/15/2012 11:33:58
    1. Re: Would Bigamy be a ground for divorce in 1898
    2. Phil Doherty
    3. Once again thank you Doug. "Doug Laidlaw" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] >A minister of religion (or a civil celebrant) is not a lawyer. If the lady > came to him and said "I am married, but my first marriage is void for > bigamy," he might answer "How do I know that? Go and obtain a decree of > nullity." A bigamous marriage is wholly void; it doesn't need a Court > declaration, but non-lawyers aren't going to ask their own lawyer. They > are > going to want an official Court or Registry document. > > Because the marriage was void from the beginning, there is no decree nisi. > The applicant is given a decree absolute immediately. There used to be > "voidable" marriages where a decree nisi was granted, but they were > abolished in 1981, by the Family Law Act. You may come across one > occasionally, but they were rare. > > Doug. > > Phil Doherty wrote: > >> She married in 1899. >> Please what do you mean by "draw a conclusion of law"? >> Philomena >> >> >> >> >> "Doug Laidlaw" <[email protected]> wrote in message >> news:[email protected] >>> It occurred to me afterwards: if she wanted to remarry, having a piece >>> of >>> paper getting rid of her existing marriage is easier than asking the >>> celebrant to draw a conclusion of law. >>> >>> Doug. >>> >>> Phil Doherty wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you Doug for that clear answer. >>>> Philomena >>>> >>>> >>>> "Doug Laidlaw" <[email protected]> wrote in message >>>> news:[email protected] >>>>> Phil Doherty wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Could someone please help with a question re Divorce ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Would a lady need to apply for a divorce if her husband had committed >>>>>> bigamy?. >>>>>> Family history says it was a bigamous marriage.If it was were they >>>>>> married >>>>>> in the eyes of the law >>>>>> >>>>>> Yesterday looking on Trove I notice she petitioned on the grounds of >>>>>> desertion and >>>>>> adultery . And was granted a decree nisi with cost. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you in anticipation of a reply >>>>>> Philomena >>>>> >>>>> A bigamous marriage is a nullity. The lady would not need to apply >>>>> for >>>>> a >>>>> divorce, but she would have been wise to get a decree of nullity >>>>> before >>>>> remarrying, just in case husband's first marriage was invalid. Then >>>>> the impediment to the second marriage disappears, and she is hitched >>>>> after all. >>>>> >>>>> If she applied for nullity and divorce at the same time, they deal >>>>> with >>>>> the >>>>> nullity first. If there is no valid marriage, it doesn't need to be >>>>> dissolved. But if she applied for divorce only, the validity of the >>>>> marriage would have been assumed. >>>>> >>>>> HTH, >>>>> >>>>> Doug. >>> >

    03/15/2012 11:31:11
    1. Re: Trying to find a book "Eliza Bird Convict child"
    2. Di Maloney
    3. I googled the book name and found this: http://www.bookempire.com.au/c2c-english-resources/eliza-bird-child-convict.html http://www.betweenreads.com.au/book/eliza-bird.do One of the websites might have a copy in stock. Good luck, Di "magsdags" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] > Does anyone have a copy of the above book author Kerri Lane and would be > willing to sell it. My daughter is a teacher and the children have to > study this book next term and it is out of print She needs to read it > herself during the Easter Holidays. > > Many Thanks, > Margaret McCulloch > Townsville > [email protected]

    03/14/2012 10:08:54
    1. Trying to find a book "Eliza Bird Convict child"
    2. magsdags
    3. Does anyone have a copy of the above book author Kerri Lane and would be willing to sell it. My daughter is a teacher and the children have to study this book next term and it is out of print She needs to read it herself during the Easter Holidays. Many Thanks, Margaret McCulloch Townsville [email protected]

    03/14/2012 03:53:45
    1. Elizabeth ROOKS
    2. Kenneth Gregory Baldwin
    3. G'day Cobbers, Does anybody know the email address for Elizabeth ROOKS. If could you please ask her to email me. Regards Greg Baldwin Ferntree Gully, Victoria, Australia Homepage: http://member.melbpc.org.au/~kennethb/ Email: [email protected] All incoming & outgoing files & emails checked by VET Anti-Virus software. AIGS 9842 A&NESFHS 9933 Researching Surnames: ALLEN - Cornwall, ENG ASHMORE - Staffordshire/Warwickshire, ENG BAILEY - Plymouth, Eng>New Plymouth, Taranaki, NZ BALDWIN - Gloucester, Eng>New Zealand> Qld, AUS BEASLEY - Qld, AUS BENTON - Staffordshire/Warwickshire, ENG BIRCH - Yorkshire, Eng> Qld, AUS BRODIE - Parish of Boyndie, Banffshire, SCT BROWN - Wellington, NZ CADDICK - Staffordshire, ENG/Wales CAMERON - Black Isle, SCT>Qld, AUS CHRISTIE - Huntly, ABD, SCT>Vic, AUS CLARK - Rhynie & Essie, Aberdeen SCT>Vic, AUS COKER - Rongeta, Wellington, NZ COMBEY - India>Qld, AUS CROZIER - Banbridge, Down, NIR > NZ DANGERFIELD - Shropshire/Staffordshire, ENG DEAN - Elgin, Elgin, SCT EDWARDS - Cornwall, ENG EVANS - Shropshire, ENG FRANCES - AUS GRANT - Rhynie, Aberdeen, SCT INCH - Cornwall, ENG>NZ INGLIS - Banff/Moray, SCT LANGDON - NZ LAURANCE - Banff, SCT LEYLAND - Staffordshire/Warwickshire, ENG LUMSDEN - Banff, SCT>NZ MacDONALD - Inverness, SCT MASSEY - Down/Antrim, NIR>Qld, AUS MELVIN - Elgin, Elgin, SCT McFADDEN -Down, NIR McINTOSH - Inverness, SCT > Qld, AUS McINTOSH - Ross Shire, Scotland>Qld, AUS McKENZIE - Banff/Moray, SCT McLEAN - Garmouth, Moray, SCT>Qld, AUS McLEAVY - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS NEWELL - NIR>NZ & Qld, AUS OLIVER - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS RAFFAN - Banff, SCT REEVES - Yorkshire (?), ENG RUNNALLS/REYNOLDS - Cornwall, ENG>AUS/NZ ROBERTSON - Ross & Cromarty, SCT RUDD - Westmoreland, Eng>Qld, AUS SIMKIN - Staffordshire/Warwickshire, ENG SIMPSON - Banff/Moray, SCT SMITH - SCT SNEYD - Staffordshire, ENG > Qld, AUS SPRENGER - Qld, AUS STUART - Moray, SCT WAKEFIELD - Stroud, Gloucester, Eng>Qld, AUS WARBURTON -Cheshire, Eng>New Plymouth, Taranaki, NZ WHITEHOUSE - Staffordshire/Warwick, ENG WILSON - Ayrshire, SCT>NZ WINN/WYNN - Shropshire, Staffordshire, ENG/Wales Human Rights Commission: http://humanrights.gov.au/bth/ The Ned Kelly Story: http://www.nedkellysworld.com.au/history/history.htm

    03/13/2012 04:15:52
    1. Re: WILKIE family from Dunedin NZ - Nancy Wilkie, John Edwin Wilkie, Edna May Wilkie
    2. Doug Laidlaw
    3. Dana Sides wrote: > Hi > > I am trying to locate the family of my grandmother, Nancy Caroline WIlKIE > born 14/11/1930. Her father was John Edwin WILKIE (died 18/6/88) and > mother Edna May WILKIE (nee NEWMAN)(died 3/6/79) They lived in Henderson > Auckland for a while and then moved back to Dunedin. Nancy gave birth to > my father in 1957 at Bethany Hospital in Auckland. He was given up for > adoption and we are having trouble trying to locate any family members > that may still be alive. Any help would be very much appreciated. Dana > [email protected] Ancestry.com has Nancy Caroline Wilkie on the N.Z. Electoral rolls in 1954. Address: 173 Bay View Road, St Kilda, Otago, and a spinster. In 1957 she is at 21 Gamma Street in Dunedin Central electoral district, and a typist. If she later married, a more recent address may be available under her married name. HTH, Doug Indexing for the Ryerson Index. In New Zealand, try http://www.amemorytree.co.nz/ (no connection.)

    03/12/2012 04:40:22
    1. Re: Would Bigamy be a ground for divorce in 1898
    2. Doug Laidlaw
    3. A minister of religion (or a civil celebrant) is not a lawyer. If the lady came to him and said "I am married, but my first marriage is void for bigamy," he might answer "How do I know that? Go and obtain a decree of nullity." A bigamous marriage is wholly void; it doesn't need a Court declaration, but non-lawyers aren't going to ask their own lawyer. They are going to want an official Court or Registry document. Because the marriage was void from the beginning, there is no decree nisi. The applicant is given a decree absolute immediately. There used to be "voidable" marriages where a decree nisi was granted, but they were abolished in 1981, by the Family Law Act. You may come across one occasionally, but they were rare. Doug. Phil Doherty wrote: > She married in 1899. > Please what do you mean by "draw a conclusion of law"? > Philomena > > > > > "Doug Laidlaw" <[email protected]> wrote in message > news:[email protected] >> It occurred to me afterwards: if she wanted to remarry, having a piece of >> paper getting rid of her existing marriage is easier than asking the >> celebrant to draw a conclusion of law. >> >> Doug. >> >> Phil Doherty wrote: >> >>> Thank you Doug for that clear answer. >>> Philomena >>> >>> >>> "Doug Laidlaw" <[email protected]> wrote in message >>> news:[email protected] >>>> Phil Doherty wrote: >>>> >>>>> Could someone please help with a question re Divorce ? >>>>> >>>>> Would a lady need to apply for a divorce if her husband had committed >>>>> bigamy?. >>>>> Family history says it was a bigamous marriage.If it was were they >>>>> married >>>>> in the eyes of the law >>>>> >>>>> Yesterday looking on Trove I notice she petitioned on the grounds of >>>>> desertion and >>>>> adultery . And was granted a decree nisi with cost. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you in anticipation of a reply >>>>> Philomena >>>> >>>> A bigamous marriage is a nullity. The lady would not need to apply for >>>> a >>>> divorce, but she would have been wise to get a decree of nullity before >>>> remarrying, just in case husband's first marriage was invalid. Then >>>> the impediment to the second marriage disappears, and she is hitched >>>> after all. >>>> >>>> If she applied for nullity and divorce at the same time, they deal with >>>> the >>>> nullity first. If there is no valid marriage, it doesn't need to be >>>> dissolved. But if she applied for divorce only, the validity of the >>>> marriage would have been assumed. >>>> >>>> HTH, >>>> >>>> Doug. >>

    03/12/2012 04:26:43
    1. Index of passengers on bounty ships
    2. Gloria Sheehan
    3. "Familysearch" now has a searchable index of the passengers on 'bounty ships' so as it's now possible to find on which ship a bounty passenger came then go to the NSW site and download the actual scans. However, the index is compiled from the index cards so if an error has occurred in transcribing from the lists to the cards, it will appear incorrectly in this index. For instance, I discovered that, in one instance, the surname INGS had been transcribed as FRYS. I contacted Familysearch to see if an alternate could be inserted, much as the same as one can do on Ancestry. They replied that, while they were working on such a programme, it was not yet available and directed me to the following: At times, you may encounter errors made in the transcription of the Historical Records found at FamilySearch.org, or you may have additional knowledge about the person listed on the record. We get requests from patrons who want to make changes to the indexes. At the present time, FamilySearch does not have the programming in place to allow a user to make corrections or annotations on a record found in our Historical Records collections nor does it provide a way for a user to submit these errors so that someone internally can make the correction. However, FamilySearch understands the desire to improve upon the quality of the records. Please let us assure you that our Design Engineers are spending a "significant amount of time and resources in mapping out a system that would allow user corrections or annotation to a record," thus adding them to the searchable database. "We cannot yet announce a date when such a feature will be available, but it is on the road maps and drawing boards." Get Satisfaction posting by Robert Kehrer--Design engineer " <http://gsfn.us/t/1plbm> Thoughts on correcting errors to the records" We suggest that if you see a need for a correction that you make note of it so that when this feature is in place, you will be able to help amend the records. We thank you for your patronage and patience as we continue making improvements to the site. Regardless it's still a great tool for locating those passengers who arrived in Australia between 1828 and 1842. Gloria

    03/12/2012 12:22:44
    1. Re: Hann Christian Damm
    2. MargM
    3. "Tanya Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]m... > Hi Listers > I am posting a query for a friend, Delphine > The family that is being searched is > Han Christian Damm and his wifr Catharina emigrated from > Denmark and > had a daughter Maria Christina just after arriving in > Australia. This family comes up in Ancestrys public trees under SMEDLEY > Another query is for any information on a William Edward Vivien > Woodford in Qld born in 1903. ??? He doesn't come up in any Australian electoral rolls or in the Qld Federation BDM CD ??? Bye -- MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast

    03/11/2012 04:34:56