I guess the story goes as this. Marvin is my Grandpa (moms Dad): > Tal wanted me to tell you that he just got off the phone with your Mom - and > what happened in the bar went this way. Erma was not at the bar at all - it > was Marvin and your real Dad. Your Dad eventually left the bar but Marvin > was still there - this guy came over to Marvin and said I knew Bob when he > lived in California and had 4 kids. Pat also said Erma thought he might > have been around 49 years old (Tal doesn't think he was that old). > My Dad was in the Korean War and my Dad would be (if he were alive) about 76 > years old. Robert Gottschalk wrote: > > At least you got that much from him. Did you get any clues from that info or > do you have it anymore? Have you check with the courts where you were born > to see if he changed his name there? Did your mother say whether he had any > accent to tell what part of the country he may have been from , he could > have faked it for awhile ,but he would be quite an actor if he could keep it > up for a wife. > Marsha > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mary Stickney <STICKNEYS@ALLTEL.NET> > To: Robert Gottschalk <BOB_GOTTSCHALK@prodigy.net> > Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 7:31 PM > Subject: Re: [IOWA] (no subject) > > > been there done that. :-) > > > > he is not listed in the index , but we drew death benefits and I was > > able to give them my ss# and they found him. > > > > > > > > Robert Gottschalk wrote: > > > > > > Hi Mary, > > > Does he show up in the SSDI if so send for the application he had to > fill > > > out for his social security card. They are available on the internet . > Just > > > go to : file://ancestry.com go to the end of the line if he appears > there > > > and it will say view ,click on it they offer you a form you print and > send > > > to them with $7.00. That may just serve you more confusion. But its > > > something else you can do if you haven't already. > > > Marsha > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Mary Stickney <STICKNEYS@ALLTEL.NET> > > > To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 4:48 PM > > > Subject: Re: [IOWA] (no subject) > > > > > > > I have no knowledeg of any relatives of his. And I am not certain that > > > > Rogness is his name. My Aunt Sue says she and my moms brother don't > > > > think that was his name and that he looked older then he sadi he was. > > > > > > > > He had no will. > > > > > > > > I am going to get the Mecost count Michigan 1920 census from Heritage > > > > Quest and see if his parents are on it. > > > > I already bought the hill county Montana one. Going to go thru it > once > > > > more in the AM. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Duponts wrote: > > > > > > > > > > If you know what county your father died in and he had a will, > that > > > might > > > > > give you some clues as to other relatives. > > > > > > > > > > If he has any siblings, you could check on their social security > apps > > > and > > > > > birth certificates and possibly get some consistent information from > > > those. > > > > > > > > > > Are you certain that his name legally was Robert Roy Rogness? > Unless > > > you > > > > > have other relatives of his that you know who are also named > Rogness, > > > you > > > > > might want to consider the idea that he changed his first and/or > last > > > name > > > > > at some point. > > > > > > > > > > Also, if you know where he lived prior to marrying your mother, you > > > could go > > > > > through old newspapers hoping to find some tidbit of information > about > > > him. > > > > > I know several of my relatives had car accidents that were reported > in > > > the > > > > > newspapers (hope I don't carry on that trend) - back then even a > minor > > > car > > > > > accident was worthy of a write-up in the local paper. > > > > > > > > > > This is an interesting puzzle - please keep us updated on your > progress! > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "mary stickney" <stickneys@alltel.net> > > > > > To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 10:14 AM > > > > > Subject: [IOWA] (no subject) > > > > > > > > > > > My name is Mary Lee Rogness; I was born in Iowa City Iowa. I am > > > looking > > > > > > for information on my father who died when I was 2. His name is > Robert > > > > > > Roy Rogness, > > > > > > born 02/15/1927, died 11/22/1963. He married my Mother in 1957 in > Iowa > > > > > > City Iowa. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am getting conflicting information as to what his parents names > are. > > > > > > He would not talk about his side of the family to my mother. He > would > > > > > > get mad and change the subject, every time she brought it up. He > would > > > > > > only say he was born in Gold Stone Montana and that his mothers > name > > > was > > > > > > Rose. > > > > > > > > > > > > I ordered a birth certificate from Montana, and there was not one > on > > > > > > file. > > > > > > I also ordered a birth certificate from Michigan and North Dakota > > > there > > > > > > was not one there either. > > > > > > > > > > > > He applied for the Social Security Card in Rugby North Dakota on > May > > > > > > 25,1954. > > > > > > > > > > > > On his Social Security Card application it says: > > > > > > He was born Big Rapids Michigan > > > > > > Father: Robert John Rogness > > > > > > Mother: Alice McKinzie > > > > > > > > > > > > On his and my Mothers marriage certificate it says: > > > > > > He was born Gold Stone Montana > > > > > > Father: Gulleck Sven Rogness > > > > > > Mother: Rose Swenson > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== IOWA Mailing List ==== > > > > > > For more free Iowa information visit: > > > > > > I A G E N W E B http://www.rootsweb.com/~iagenweb/index.htm > > > > > > IOWA ARCHIVES http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ia/iafiles.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > > > > > > Tens of millions of individuals... and counting. > > > > > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== IOWA Mailing List ==== > > > > > For more free Iowa information visit: > > > > > I A G E N W E B http://www.rootsweb.com/~iagenweb/index.htm > > > > > IOWA ARCHIVES http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ia/iafiles.htm > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > > > > > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > > > > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > (o o) > > > > ------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo------------ > > > > > > > > Mary Stickney > > > > International Black Sheep Society of Genealogists (IBSSG) > > > > Proud owner of 6 BlackSheep > > > > 1 murderer, 1 bank scammer, 1 Incestuous pedophile, 1 deserter, 1 car > > > > thief > > > > 1 forger of government documents (my dad, still can't find who he > really > > > > is/was) > > > > http://blacksheep.amity.org/ > > > > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=stickneys > > > > http://www.genealogy.com/users/r/o/g/Mary-L-Rognessstickney/ > > > > > > > > ______________________________ > > > > -- > > > > (o o) > > ------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo------------ > > > > Mary Stickney > > International Black Sheep Society of Genealogists (IBSSG) > > Proud owner of 6 BlackSheep > > 1 murderer, 1 bank scammer, 1 Incestuous pedophile, 1 deserter, 1 car > > thief > > 1 forger of government documents (my dad, still can't find who he really > > is/was) > > http://blacksheep.amity.org/ > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=stickneys > > http://www.genealogy.com/users/r/o/g/Mary-L-Rognessstickney/ -- (o o) ------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo------------ Mary Stickney International Black Sheep Society of Genealogists (IBSSG) Proud owner of 6 BlackSheep 1 murderer, 1 bank scammer, 1 Incestuous pedophile, 1 deserter, 1 car thief 1 forger of government documents (my dad, still can't find who he really is/was) http://blacksheep.amity.org/ http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=stickneys http://www.genealogy.com/users/r/o/g/Mary-L-Rognessstickney/