Martha, Do you live in that area? Reading these took me back, and now I can't sleep, wondering if I knew one or both of these women! Although I live in Minnesota now, I grew up in the Hoke road area during the 60s/70s/80's. And the areas where these two women's bodies were found is not that far apart. While I'm not sure where the second woman's body was found, the mere knowledge that it was in Miami County and about four miles off I-70 tells me that it was probably within 5 miles of the Hoke Road location. The Women sound like they were physically alike in size and age and coloring. It sounds to me like someone had a thing for slender 17-25 year old women with brownish hair, brown eyes, 5'5" -5'6" women. In other words, I can't imagine why police don't think that these are related incidents. Both locations are close to I-70, and just outside the Dayton area. The stretch of I-70 between Englewood Ohio and Richmond Indiana (about 30 miles) is 99.9% farmland, much of it owned and farmed by Mennonite families. It is secluded and scary at night - I grew up out there and I know. We called it "No-Man's Land". A murderer wanting to dispose of a body would find very few witnesses out here at night. And it strikes me that he would have had to know that... Considering that in 1981 I was 24, had brown hair and eyes and am 5'6", I begin to think back to some of the weird guys I ran into while out socializing (in Englewood, Union & West Milton area) on the Weekends and realize how fortunate I am. And these women's families may not realize that the women are dead. So many young women 'disappear' - we leave home and family for so many reasons. Just reading this list for any extent of time makes it clear that being born into a family does not guarantee that we will be loved, cared for or even missed when we are gone. I wish you every amount of luck in identifying these women, Martha! ----------------------- > > Subject: Two Jane Does in Ohio > Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 09:03:46 -0400 > From: Martha Hardcastle Guthrie <mothra@erinet.com> > To: GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-L@rootsweb.com > > I am still working on trying to identify two female homicide victims who > were found along Ohio highways in 1981 and 1987. I doubt that their killers > will ever be found but I feel sure that someone misses these women. Police > feel that although they are both strangulations that the perpetrator is not > the same for the two cases. > > I submitted the following information to the "Lost and the Found" website > http://web.qx.net/aubriana/oh.htm which was started by Todd Matthews, the > man who finally identified the "Tent Girl" not far away from me in > Kentucky. An artist's rendering of the Montgomery County victim is > available there by clicking on "Montgomery County 1987" hypertext. > > Montgomery County - 1987 White female 17-25 years of age, 5'5", 125 lbs., > brown hair, brown eyes. Identifying marks or features: > · Tattoo over left breast, tattoo over right breast. > · Small scar on right ankle 1/4 inch in size. > · Apparently old IV track scars on both hands. Blood type A+. > Details: Body found 8/10/87 at east-bound off-ramp from Hoke Road to I-70, > Englewood, Ohio. Date of death 8/9/87 at unknown location approximately 14 > hours before discovery. Victim wore blue jeans, blue panties, blue > headband. No shirt or shoes. Loop earring in right ear, two silver > bracelets on right arm, turquoise ring on right hand, silver chain > necklace. Fingerprints and dentals available. > Cause of death: Strangulation > NCIC U-260043704 > Englewood Police Department, > 333 West National Road > Englewood OH 45322 > (937) 836-1194 (937) 836-2678 > Agency file 87-0914 > Miami County - 1981 White female, late teens to mid-20s, 5'6", 125 to 130 > lbs., reddish-brown hair, brown eyes. Identifying marks or features: > · Hair in large braids > · One-inch horizontal scar on bottom of chin > · two-inch scar on thumb side of left wrist with a one-inch > horizontal scar in same area > · a 5/16 X 3/4 inch light-colored birthmark on upper left thigh > · several scars on right foot. > · Blood type O positive. > Details: Body found 4/21/81, 20 miles north of Dayton, Ohio in ditch on > county road approximately four miles west of I-75. Several blows to the top > of the forehead. "Wrangler" jeans, brown sweater with orange crisscross > design on the front, size 32D bra, handmade fringed buckskin shirt-jacket > with deep purple lining. Dentals and fingerprints available. > Cause of death: Manually strangled. Death 24-48 hours. prior to delivery. > NCIC: U-121466199 > Miami County Sheriff's Department > Det. Lt. R. Sweitzer > 201 W. Main St. > Troy, OH 45373 > (937) 332-6824 > > If anyone has any information or ideas, please contact me. > > Thanks, > > Martha