I ahve an ancestor who apparently quit attending the catholic church he was brought up in and when he died it has been said he was buried without a coffin and in the late afternoon or early evening by some of his neighbors some of them were not catholic in what was then called the devils corner of the catholic cemetery, Since the priest did not perform the burial there were no records in his book, also no records kept of that part of cemetery, the church does not agree that such a spot existed but old timers said it did, this was in early 1900s to 1940s, how many others have experienced this problem and how does one locate such a grave to place a marker on it? Joseph meyer

I have an Anna Meyer b 1878 in calhoun county, Il dau of Conrad Meyer and Anna Mary Zumdick, she was to have left Il to go to St. louis, Mo about 1898 was to have md a Brown and went west can anyone be of help I cant find anything on her in 1900 in St. louis or a marriage to a Brown. Joseph meyer

Just a guess, but have you tried checking the SSDI for her name? And if she is not on there - maybe the Social Security Association can help you locate her. They do forward letters to people for you when you cannot locate them. If you need an address to send a letter to the SSA, let me know and I will send it to you. Have you tried using a private investigator? Good luck! -- Cindy Johnson :0) NEW SITE! American Local History Network - Wisconsin A compilation of Historical & Genealogical Information http://www.usgennet.org/~alhnwius/WI_index.html My Wisconsin Family History Page http://www.ameritech.net/users/cindyjohnson1/Family_history.htm

I have an Ernest E Morse all i know is he md my gaunt Catherine Meyer Foval between 1902-1906, Catherine was born in 1875 in calhoun co, Il the dau of Conrad Meyer and Anna Mary Zumdick, she and Ernest show up living in St Louis, MO in Jan 1906 they just seemed to disappear after that some rumors they may have went west I cant locate them anywhere in 1910 or 1920 appreciate any help Joseph meyer

I have lost (?) Charles Jefferson SIMS. Born 1882 in Pemiscott County, Mo., died 1949 in Poinsett County, Ar. What did he do between those times? He had at least 2 wives that I am aware of. First may have been a Todd (first name unknown) had first child, Mirl James, in 1914 and then married Callie Lowery and had 8 more. Alvie, Allan, Obie Ray (Red), Buddy, Lujean, Estel, Elsie and (Mrs. Elmer Causey) don't know her first name. Is there anyone out there with any info. His grandparents were William & Elizabeth living in Craighead County, Ar in 1860 census. Thanks, Sandy

WALTER EDWARD INDOE was born in November 1893 in Paterson, N.J. He was the 2nd of five boys born to FREDRICK & NELLIE(VANDERBECK)INDOE. When Walter was 10 his beloved mother Nellie died. The family story is that the boys never forgave their father because his cruelty to their mother had killed her. All the INDOE boys left home once they knew they could take care of themselves. One day, approximately 1909, Walter had a fight with his father and stormed out the door saying he'd never come back. And he didn't. He was never heard from again. Not even his brothers, whom he was very close to ever heard from him. Some say he was killed in World War I, and some say he died in the 1918 Influenza epidemic. Others say he just ran away to join the circus and never bothered to contact anyone. I have searched directories, Soc. Sec. death index, etc. and he has left no clues as to where he went. Anyone have suggestions on where else I might look to find Walter? Seems he's vanished without a trace! It was suggested I look for his name in World War I records, but I'm told one needs to have a place of enlistment and I have no idea where he would have enlisted if indeed he ever did. All I have to go on is his name, date and place of birth. I'd love to solve this for my aunt who searched for her brother-in-law for years, even after her husband's death. Would appreciate your ideas in helping to solve this mystery. Thanks much! Debbie gjvelez@gdi.net

It seem that my Mother has just vanished from the earth. Her name is Estella "Janette" Allen Wilkes. DOB:December 4, 1918 at Seattle, King Co., Washington. Her parents were Sam Lee Allen and Janette Knox Allen. She had two sisters Wilberene "JO" and Sam "LEE", brother David Lee Allen. I have been looking for her for over 40 years now. No luck tho. I just recently made contact with my Allen side of the family and they said that they had not heard for her either. Her cousin Gladys Jenkins seen her in Phoenix, Ariz. in the late 1940's or early 1950's. Can anyone help Please. Jan LJSchupp@aol.com

> GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 96 > Subject: Andrew and Kemphis Spear > Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 20:10:05 EST > Has anyone ever heard the name Kemphis Quikote Spear...he was b. 8-Jan-1890 In Noble Co. Possibly "M"emphis Qui"x"ote ? Not that that's much help, of course... Sorry. If you reply to this, PLEASE don't send it all back to me ! Regards -- Robin ... Yet another finely-crafted message from Osmaniye, Southern Turkey ... Have you yet visited http://www.black-sun.demon.co.uk/fidonet/ ... Learn about FidoNet, the FREE alternative !

Andrew Oscar Spear and his son, Kemphis Spear, were last seen in the 1910 Columbiana Co., OH census and then just disappear. I was told they moved to Norfolk, but I just can't find them anywhere. Can anyone help? Has anyone ever heard the name Kemphis Quikote Spear...he was b. 8-Jan-1890 In Noble Co. Oh to Andrew Oscar and Jennie D. (Mercer) Spear....thanks for any help you can lend...Suan

I'm looking for information on the following couple: Shortly after the turn of the century, Michael and Katharina (SCHNITZLER) UDVARI and their daughter, Anna, left Hungary, intending to join a number of relatives who had already immigrated to the United States. The story handed down was that Katharina gave birth to a baby boy on the boat over to America, and the baby died and was buried at sea. Then when the family arrived at the port, they were turned away, supposedly because "the quota was filled", and the ship was diverted to South America, but we have no idea what country. Also, reportedly traveling with them was the son of Katharina's brother. His name was Peter Schnitzler. Some cousins of Michael UDVARI are known to have settled in BRAZIL, but we've not been able to contact them in recent years, nor do we know whether Michael and his family were with them. I'd appreciate any info or ideas you can give me, and if we have a connection, I'll be glad to share what info I have. Sarah G. Nunez PLEASE send any personal replies to me at S.Nunez@f604.n130.z1.fidonet.org ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

I'm looking for information on the following: My husband's grandfather, Timoteo NUNEZ, was born in Coahuila (possibly near Allende) on Aug. 28, 1898. His parents were Victoriano and Virginia (HERNANDEZ) NUNEZ. He had an older sister (first name unknown), who was born about 1894. When he was about 18 months old, his mother took his six-year-old sister and disappeared while his father was at work, leaving Timoteo behind, alone in the house. Neighbors heard him crying and notified his father. A few years later, while Timoteo was in Mexico City, a woman approached him and told him she was his mother. Timoteo was frightened and apparently didn't believe her. Nothing else is known about the mother or the sister, or what became of them. Timoteo and his father, Victoriano, came to the U.S. around the turn of the century, either shortly before or shortly after the town in which Timoteo was born was wiped out by flood. They were accompanied by Victoriano's mother, Gumecinda, and her second husband, Pasqual ZAMARRIPA, and their children. They came into the U.S. through Eagle Pass, Texas. Gumecinda and Victoriano may have been originally from Jalisco, possibly near Rio Escondido. I'd appreciate any info or ideas you can give me, and if we have a connection, I'll be glad to share what info I have. Sarah G. Nunez PLEASE send any personal replies to me at S.Nunez@f604.n130.z1.fidonet.org ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

I just happened to have been here a little bit ago...hope this helps! Cheers, Alice Group: soc.genealogy.misc Date: Mon, Nov 2, 1998, 5:38am (CST+6) From: wttet@ptd.net (et phone home) Re: WILL DO ILL/COOK COUNTY LOOKUPS If you write or call IRAD (Illinois Regional Archives Depository), they will give you the same information for free. they charge only for copies and it is only $1 for up to ten copies. You usually get a response within 2 weeks. They have an internet site for information on all the records which are available. Elayne ~~~~~Laissez les bon temps rouller~~~~~ http://members.xoom.com/ASpecialPlace/play.html Cram~OurCajunLynx~Chauvins Names1755Expulsion/HuguenotTimeLine http://www.expage.com/page/bayoumama NS http://www.chignecto.net/nsnews owner-quebec@listserv.northwest.com

Good afternoon, again, group! I had tried to send this message from home but for some reason, all of my efforts kept vanishing! Does anyone know where I can write to in order to locate a death certificate in Chicago, Cook County, Illinois, between 1880 and 1890? Thanks! Pat McCoy

Are any of my messages getting through or have I been accidentally dropped from the list? I have three e-mail addresses now: Patricia.McCoy@gallaudet.edu BONES@inorbit.com PatMcCoy@gateway.net I'm trying to track down what happened to Herman Waterholter who showed up in Chicago, Illinois in 1880 and disappeared by 1890. Thanks! Pat McCoy

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Looking for my mother's birth father - John Joseph Steven BARRY (or BERRY)- Also went by the name of Joseph BERNON DOB 1883? - place Ohio, Illinois or Penn. DOD unknown, but probably after 1960, and possibly in Stockton, CA. Parents John Joseph BARRY (or BERRY)born England, and Anna NUNN, born England. He came from a large family - possibly 13 children. Some sibling's names: Michael, Patrick, Nora, Kate DOM (1st) 10/24/1908 in Stockton,CA to Florence Edna Salzgeber (he used the name of Joseph Bernon) DOB 5/11/1889, Ione, CA DODeath 3/10/1967, Stockton, CA DODivorce approx 1911. One child - Marguerite Lillain Berry, DOB 7/23/1909 (my mother - always went by the name of Margaret Lillian Stevens, her step father). DOM (2nd) 7/3/1912 in Fresno or Visalia,CA to Ybeltje (aka Edith) Rypkema DOB 6/8/1889, Sugartown, PA, DODeath 11/4/1979, Mobridge, SD DODivorce 6/27/1917 in Pine County, Minnesota. One child - Bertha Anna Berry DOB8/7/1914, Stockton,CA Possible 3rd marriage to a Mrs. Cerney. Last known residence in Stockton, CA - lived with a Mrs. Rose on Clay Street (possibly a boarding house) probably in the 1960's. Mrs. Rose had a daughter born about 1909. Gave his occupation as plumber or metal worker. Both families of 1st and 2nd marriage have been trying to find info on this "man of many faces and lives". Any help would be most appreciated. Thank you for any information and/or referals you may provide!! Audrey in California

In a message dated 11/1/98 12:17:27 AM Pacific Standard Time, GEN-UNSOLVED- MYSTERIES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > Found a box of pictures when in the Houston, Texas area recently. They > seemed interesting but not of the line I am searching. If anyone > recognizes any of the following names would be glad to send them. They > appeared to have been taken by a US Serviceman in Germany in 1946. Names > that I have identified are: > > Offert?, Edward > Rankins, Julian > Watters, Dick > Graham, Gerald > Captain Eberling > Ritchie, Cliff > > These seem to have been taken by a fellow named Clem and a lot of them > were from "Club 85". Seemed to be a favorite hangout! > Let me know if you are interested. > Sandy > > > Sandy, check out Cyndi's List at http://www.cyndislist.com/odds.htm in the category "Odds and Ends" she has several sites listed that try to match up missing photos/memorabilia with their families. Please post your message there and see what happens..... Best Wishes, Pat Jorgensen

Found a box of pictures when in the Houston, Texas area recently. They seemed interesting but not of the line I am searching. If anyone recognizes any of the following names would be glad to send them. They appeared to have been taken by a US Serviceman in Germany in 1946. Names that I have identified are: Offert?, Edward Rankins, Julian Watters, Dick Graham, Gerald Captain Eberling Ritchie, Cliff These seem to have been taken by a fellow named Clem and a lot of them were from "Club 85". Seemed to be a favorite hangout! Let me know if you are interested. Sandy

Hi, Since you know where Lester was born, have you tried the census for 1910 and 1920? He should be listed in his parents' household, with their names and relationship, and where they and their parents were born. That shouuld help. Jean > In a message dated 10/29/98 4:16:56 PM, davises@airmail.net wrote: > > <<Facts: > > My mother was married to a man named Lester Allen Kennedy b 1906 > Carter Co. Ok. > > She married him in 1935 (we have the certificate) > > since you know when lester was born, why dont you try tracing his tree? That > would help you find out if the Kennedy portion was true. > > Lisa >

In a message dated 10/29/98 4:16:56 PM, davises@airmail.net wrote: <<Facts: My mother was married to a man named Lester Allen Kennedy b 1906 Carter Co. Ok. She married him in 1935 (we have the certificate) She was divorced by 1940 when she married our dad Both she and my father are gone now and we think Lester is also. WHAT WE THINK: That Lester beat mother up and she lost a child That maybe somehow he was kin to the Kennedy's and she was threaten to be quite along with her family?? That's my story what do you think????? >> since you know when lester was born, why dont you try tracing his tree? That would help you find out if the Kennedy portion was true. Lisa