Sorry but I guess I assume everyone is following my whole story and need to make each email clearer Ellen thomson -- maholage and Alexander are my adopted parents both deceased I have all there info I am wondering if anyone knew them ???????? they lived in NJ til at least 1952 then New York and east 4th avenue til at least 1957 then 1964 e 9th street he also was known as Ben My adop mom ELLEN MAHOLAGE (THOMSON MAIDEN NAME FROM NJ) was a foster mother in New Jersey (Carlton Ave) in 1951, PLUS OR MINUS A FEW YRS BUT DEFINITELY 1951. It was issued by the New Jersey board of vital statistics in Hudson NY but there is no record of her being authorized to do this. SHE WAS BORN IN HOBOKEN NEW JERSY ON 12/30/23. I SENT FOR HER MARRIAGE CERT AND IT SAYS SHE WAS MARRIED IN NEW JERSEY IN MAY 1944 AS THEY WERE LIVING IN NY IN 1957 BUT BETWEEN 1953 and 1957 I AM NOT SURE IF THEY LIVED IN NJ OR NY now my adop dad ALEXANDER MAHOLAGE worked all over NY City a good freind of his was a Mr. grant and a man named goldstein or Gladstone who i believe both were attorneys i have already checked these avenues of the attorneys with no results found a few but nothing came of it HE WORKED UNDER THE TABLE HIS WHOLE LIFE NEVER HAD A LEGAL JOB?. he was also in the merchant marines. 2 of his military addresses were S.S. J.C. LINCOLN STOCKARD S.S. CO 17 BATTERY PLACE NY NY AND S.S. J.C. LINCOLN STOCKARD S.S. CO C/O SOCIEETY NAVAL DELMAR VEL JAUX PARIS FRANCE He traveled and was gone alot, so I could have been born anywhere and then brought back to NY to be adopted. It could be just about anything??? AT ONE TIME WE HEARD OUR MOTHER WAS A WAITRESS IN A RESTAURANT CALLED RUDLEYS IN NY where my adopted dad worked for yrs he also owned some property in Massapequa in NY and owned a store with a Fred Bijou called sundown to sundown in NY i beleive in Massapequa shopping center in the 60's My a mom worked at Arthur Murray dance studio in Newark NJ in 1947 + or -- a few yrs but def in 1947. So she was already married when she worked there so I could have been someone she worked with that had the baby. She also worked for RCA and a phone CO (not sure if those were in NY or NJ) and I believe a plant in Harrison NJ not sure of yr. in NY she worked at a macys dept store. in NY in the 60's My adopt dad worked or manaaged a restaurant called rudleys in New York I beleive it is the only job he had on the record. Everything else he did was cash under the table. he was a maintenance man and a super of apt building in NY at one time. I know this is alot and I have posted it all on every geneology adoption or any other board and come up empty. IM afraid someone is looking for me but if everything I have is so much yet so many untruths how would they ever find me any way. Ps my adop parents are both deceased and they told us so many different stories thats why I have so much info but most of it is useless. MY ADOP MOMS FAMILY THE THOMSONS CANNOT BE LOCATED AND I DONT EVEN KNOW WHERE TO LOOK as i dont know any of her 3 brothers births or deaths if deceased or anything and ive posted for them and checked out ancestry.com thanks to some kind person. my adop dads family knows nothing as they were from pa where i live now. and i was raised in ny ive asked over and over but they did not even know we were adopted at least thats what they tell me and ive tried over and over. but who knows maybe i even came from there. (pa) my adop moms maiden name was thomson as she spelled it with a p(thompson) but all legal doc such as her marriage and birth cert and letter found from a nephew of hers spell it without the t. she had 3 brothers that i know of charles john and frank and a nephew robert f. thomson (info given in prior email) her dads name was francis bernard thomson and her moms name was ANNE WILLMES (MAIDEN) the woman who witnessed the marraige was a margaret harley from north arlington along with francis which was either her brother or dad OH YEAH IM ITALIAN LOOKING PETITE WITH BROWN HAIR AND BIG BROWN EYES I HAVE ALWAYS LOOKED YOUNGER THAN I AM SUPPOSED TO BE SO THE YR COULD BE LATER THAN 1960 with this mess NO WONDER I CANT FIND ANYONE ?????? I HAVE LOTS OF PHOTOS OF MYSELF FROM AGE 3 UP NONE BEFORE THAT AND SOME OF UNIDENTIFIED PEOPLE. ive covered every base and every suggestion got my non id mother 31 father 45 born in usa thats it for 75.00 every geneology site every free post site every registry including international soundex ny adoption registries and all the surename mailing lists form nj and nj so.........any other suggestions short of breaking into the albany office and ripping open my records....... ha ha see..... still got my sense of humur LOL Jo-Ann

ok heres the story i know the birth and death date of my adopted mom ellen mae thomson born 12/30/23 i am trying to find a relative of hers any of her brothers I do not know any birth or death or even if they are alive i do not even know if they are older or younger frank thomson john thomson and charles thomson the most info i have is on a robert f thomson who was in aviation school in ohklahoma in 1953 and last address in 1973 was 109 hobart street ridgefield nj this letter was sent to a mr and mrs b. maholage my adopted dads name was alexander but some people called him ben it was sent to the house i grew up in and we moved to pa in 74 so apparently she kept in touch with at least one member of her family so maybe he knows something. i need to find out if they are alive and where they are they probably hold the key to my story i have tried ancestry . com and all the locate and yellow pages but i have know idea where they live now. i have my a moms parents names and aproximate ages i got copy of birth cert for 2 people who may have been them but i doubt it as it is not the info i got off her birth cert i do not have access to nj i live in pa and i dont know any yrs involved to order any films and cant order them all. any suggestiions!!!!!! thanks as always Jo-Ann somebody

My Father's father disappeared in 1955. He went out for "cigarettes" (Lucky Strikes - no kidding)! and truly was never heard from or seen again. We have been searching for years..to no avail. Not even death records, SS#, or any traces of any kind have been located..nothing. He seems to have simply disappeared. If anyone ever comes across anything about the following indiviual - please let me know! Thank you! ALBION LEE ROWE Birth: March 9, 1892 Born in : Pensacola, Florida Last seen in 1955 in San Diego California. God Bless... Peggy Rowe Revayah@aol.com

the person i am looking for is alive i beleive thanks jo-ann

can anyone acess a data base with a name that would also give you the bith date Robert F. Thomson he was in the service in the yr 1953 some aviation school in ohkahoma in 1953 thanks Jo-Ann

Dear Fellow List Members, I am wondering if there is anyone out there who lives in the Midland, TX area who might do me the favor of looking up an obituary in a fairly recent issue of the Midland newspaper? When I say recent I mean 1994. Since it is so recent, and not an older newspaper, I am having trouble ordering such a thing through interlibrary loan. The person I am seeking information on is Monte Hanks. She was born July 29, 1908 and died in Midland around the 26th of December in 1994. If anyone could locate a copy of her obituary and copy down the information for me, I would be truly grateful! Thanks in advance for anyone who can give me assistance in this. Sincerely, Tanya Kloesel in Austin, TX

I am looking for Delmar Harold CHEW. According to my Great Grandfather's written record, Harold as he was known by the family was born about 1895 give or take a year to William Chew and Mahala Stinnett in Okalahoma Territory. Mahala walked out on William while pregnant with Harold and divorced him. (I won't go into the sordid details) She eventually worked for Charles Henry Fowler whose wife had died and left him with several children to care for. They found they were compatible and decided it was to their mutual benefit to marry. They grew to love each other very much. When Harold was grown he left home to work. He was in Colorado and my Great Grandfather Edgar decided to join him there. Edgar suffered from hay fever badly. Working in Colorado would help him escape that for a while. I will write down my GGrandfather's words for the rest of the story. In the fall of 1912 I had perhaps, my worst attack of hay fever, an affliction which has visited me every fall since boyhood. I decided to go to Colorado to get relief and wrote to Harold Chew, who was then working near Denver, thinking he might help me to find work. He met me at the train in Denver and suggested that we go to an employment agency and find a job where we could work together. This resulted in our going into the mountains to work at a sawmill, where we worked about six weeks, or, until the mill closed down for the winter, when we returned to Denver. At Denver we bid each other "good-bye", Harold indicating he would go on to San Francisco, while I went south to the Castle Rock area where I was acquainted, to work a few weeks longer before returning home. It was in November, 1912 when Harold and I parted in Denver and that was the last time he was ever seen by any member of the family. After that he was heard from occasionally for 3 years or so, generally, p! erhaps always, from California. It was, I think, in 1915 that he wrote of meeting a very beautiful girl about 20 years old, whom he called Edith, and marrying her. He said they were going to Honolulu on a honeymoon. The letter was, I think, signed, Harold and Edith. The next thing that was received from him was a picture postcard, apparently bought off a card rack at a drug store, which had a photograph in color of a very beautiful girl about 20 years old. The card was not dated, nor was any address given, but it was postmarked Los Angeles, California, June 26, 1916. On the card was written this message: "Dear Bro. and Sis: Here is a picture of Edith before she got sick. I will send them now because she may never have any more taken. (Mother* received a similar card) When she took sick she weighed 140. Now she weighs 98. She is just withering away. If she don't rally pretty soon by fall she will pass away with the rest of the roses. Write and tell me what you th! ink of her picture. I will send you my own one of these days. With Love, H.C. and Edith." After this the BLANK' No effort to contact Harold or to learn anything more about him ever met with any success whatever. Mother would almost have given her life just to know what became of him. *Mother refers to Mahala who raised Edgar and Harold. I have looked through death records and can find nothing that appears to be the Chew that I am looking for. I have looked through marriage records but cannot find anything. I even had a short attempt at the draft records for 'world War 1. Does anybody have any ideas. I think I have tried most of the obvious places to look but at this point all I can think to do is search every available record ever created in California, a daunting task to say the least but one that is severely compounded by the fact that I reside in Australia. Any ideas or help are greatly appreciated. One thing I would love to check into is the trip to Honolulu.! Would records exist for that? Anyway, Thank you again. Judy

Connie, thanks for your suggestion, but the churches I have looked at for Ohio for other lines, only a few records exist. the only one I've had any success with beyond marriage records is the Portage County Congregationalist church-that's where my Cynthia Ross was baptized, and that's all they had beside marriages. the Moore/Searles family was Catholic and Mormon-there's a mix for you <g>. I know Catholic records for the early years are pretty good, but not knowing the county or the town....I don't know where in Ohio the Moore's came from, so I would be at a serious loss as to where to look. One has to know at least the county, and I don't have a clue-their only child's death record was blank when we got it-names unknown, places unknown. they had two children. one died before 1900, name unknown. the other child, Thomas Edward/Edwin Moore, was not a religious man, if the family stories about his mischief hold true. hmmm, I should post him to blacksheep, now that I think of it-maybe they can help. Thomas was a farmer, then a mule team driver. nothing that'd leave records behind. J. Scott Moore was a long time teacher, but may have worked at something else before he took up teaching. family stories are that he taught Edwardian script. J. Scott m. Martha K. ____?_____. ----- Original Message ----- From: libby100@webtv.net To: Cornelia Warner Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES] Re: does anyone know what to do? Hi One of the suggestions is church records. If you know what religion your family was then and perhaps still is--is a good source of information. Did he marry, have children? What did he do for work? Hope some of these suggestions help in some way Connie - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

I am looking for a J. Scott Moore in Ohio, b. abt Feb 1841. although I've checked the 1870 census indexes for Ohio and Illinois (he lived in many places), I cannot pick him out of the long lists of J. Moores. I need to check the 1880 soundex for Illinois and Kansas, but otherwise, how can I find him without a first name?

JoAnne, If you are researching several lines at once, you'll probably find lots of valuable stuff. I am only doing one surname, so I joined for one month and had no problem searching every database that came up in my 'global search'. I haven't bothered to renew, because their new databases are displayed free for 10 days. I just make sure I visit their site once a week and look at the ones that interest me. When I start doing another line, I may join for another month and do the same thing. they don't have a lot of info for people who's ancestors lived in the US prior to 1750. :) Melissa

I got a free 2 week trial and there was too much information for me to really find anything. 2 weeks was probably not enough time, but it seemed like the place to look if you already have a clue about an ancestor in particular (half of my tree is a complete mystery) but not the best place to look if you do not have a clue (b-date, state, etc.) about who you are looking for. My 2 cents worth. Megan :) >i was thinking of joining this does anyone belong already and is it worth it. >59.95 per yr. >Jo-Ann > > >==== GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES Mailing List ==== > To get another copy of the Welcome Message send New mail to > GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-L-request@rootsweb.com . > In the subject of the message type, > "archive" without the quotes. In the body of the message type, > "get welcome.txt" without the quotes. >

Thank you all for your input on ancestry.com i got half for it and half against. i think for what i am looking for the 1900's and new york new jersey it does not appear that it would benifit me much but i did hear some good things about it thanks Jo-Ann

Hi Jo-Ann. I have been a subscriber to Ancestry.com for the past 1 1/2 years and I found it to be a good value. I have found many details out about two branches of my family by accessing the site-including the names of two of my ancestors on passenger ship lists coming to the United States from Germany. Also, the first year I subscribed, I was given a CD Rom that has the elctronic version of (I think) the top five Genealogy books used in research (please check out Ancestry's site for details). I believe it was valued at over $60.00 and I got it free for subscribing, This year I renewed my subscription, and since I already has the Ancestry Reference LIbrary '98 sent free, I was given subscriptions to two genealogy magazines (I love Ancestry's snail mail magazine. It is writen well and the articles are very interesting and easy to read. When the magazine arrives, I cannot put it down until I read the whole thing. The magazine retails at $4.95 U.S. per issue and is put out 6 times a year) and a book called The Source,: A Guidebook of American Genealogy. The book is absolutely wonderful (my favorite resource) and almost 900 pages long-I think it retails for $50 plus dollars. I would have gladly paid $60.00 or more for the book and magazine subscriptions alone-let alone have access to all of Ancestry's online sources as well. I would recomemend that you get a trial subscription (if available) to the site to see how it works for you. You could check with Ancestry to see if they would upgrade the membership and give you the free gifts if you decide to pay for a whole year. You might want to review the entire list of sources on Ancestry.com's web site. This may help you evaluate how useful the site could be for you. Also, you might try searching for names in your family and see how many pay/member ($) listings you get. If you do not get many matches, then Ancestry may not be a good value for you. Different people have different needs so Ancestry.com may not work for everyone. However, I have been extremely pleased with the service and plan to renew again. If you have any other questions about the service that I may help you with, please email me. Lynn Zimmerman In a message dated 11/8/99 7:11:07 AM US Eastern Standard Time, WORKSP@aol.com writes: << i was thinking of joining this does anyone belong already and is it worth it. 59.95 per yr. Jo-Ann >>

Hi All I have a 70 year old friend who was raised by other than family after he was removed from his mothers care. Relatives from S.D. have told him his mother Mabel Larrelin Mcdermaid/Mcdermott was killed in a train accident "near Chicago" in the early 1930's. He would just like to know where his mother is buried. I know it's a long shot & "near Chicago" might not even be Illinois but I would appreciate any help I could get. I know his mother was born Mcdermaid but his BC said McDermott, so it may even be something else with Mcderm for the start of the name. Thanks in advance for your help. Suzanne

I bought a three month subscription. I did find information in the paid databases so I am glad I had the subscription. But for me the process to research is slow. I haven't used it for a month or so and I won't renew. VickieM

i was thinking of joining this does anyone belong already and is it worth it. 59.95 per yr. Jo-Ann

As many of you know I am a veteran, I thought that maybe I should pass on to you the following information. The writers of Chicken Soup for the soul is working on a new book. Chicken soup for the veterans Soul. Submissions up to 1200 words are accepted and the deadline is Dec 31, 1999. For guidelines call 1-888-387-6373 or visit the web site at www.vetstories.com This would be a great way to preserve your military history and share it with our future generations. One of our own first Marines is in a nursing home and desperately needs a little cheering up. While she was hospitalized her husband also passed away.( Another fellow Marine) Her name is Hazel Larson. Her story is recounted in the March/April '98 "reminisce" magazine. She entered the Corps in March 1943 and was trained at Hunter College Her address is: Mrs. Hazel Larson c/o Clinton-Aire Nursing Center 17001 17 Mile Road. Clinton Twp., Mi. 48038 I am sure cards from fellow Marines and friends would be a great moral booster for her at this time. I appreciate your help and it would be great if you can pass this message along to other Marines and those with a kind heart for others. This site was created by the U.S. Army Military History Institute and it is a searchable database of their Special Collections. Using this database you can see if a photograph exists of your Civil War ancestor. There were two records for Melton. Just enter the surname you're searching and the results page will give any photos of any soldier with that surname, along with (if known) his regiment. Next, you can send an e-mail with the photo ID's that you're interested in. The Army will then send you (for free) a photocopy of the picture, along with instructions on ordering a duplicate photo. An 8x10 photo costs $10.00. No more then ten photos will be produced for any one customer per year. http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usamhi/PhotoDB.html Also we have the following veteran site. with Veteran's Day approaching, I invite anybody interested to visit my Patriots web page at http://www.geocities.com/ebasr/patriots.html; additions are always welcome. Earl B. Akers. Sr. MSgt, USAF (Ret) Thank you all for indulging me. I promise to be good and post no other "stuff" just pain roots and branches. Semper Fi. Mary in Mich Researching surnames: Hajduk, Welch, Litton, Collins, Merritts, Meier, Staples and Szela Proud member of the WOMEN MARINES ASSOCIATION, MOTOR CITY CHAPTER USMC 224 Proud Years Happy Birthday Marine Corps 10 November

I think this is VERY Important to all of us. Am sorry to post non conforming items but ....this is from the Sheriff Office of Pike Co. KY Semper Fi. Mary in Mich Researching surnames: Hajduk, Welch, Litton, Collins, Merritts, Meier, Staples and Szela Proud member of the WOMEN MARINES ASSOCIATION, MOTOR CITY CHAPTER ----- Original Message ----- From: <Abneyware@aol.com> To: <KYFLOYD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 1:39 PM Subject: [KYFLOYD] On-line caution-not genealogy I regret to advise you that Judy Roder (JRoder5665) was murdered 9-7-99 at her home. If you have any information that may help us in this case please contact the Criminal Investigation Division of the Galveston County Sheriff's Department, 715 19th, Galveston Tx 77550, 409 766 2333. Sincerely, William K. Macdonald, Deputy Galveston County Sheriff's Department Judy Roder frequented the AOL Fab 50's chat rooms. Her husband passed away in April, and like most of us, enjoyed her newfound friends on AOL. She met a "real nice gentlemen" in the Fab 50 room and made plans to meet him. She was thrilled. The unfortunate thing is she told him her phone number, where she lived, you name it. Now a really nice lady is gone because of some idiotic murderer here online who portrayed himself as a wonderful person. Please always remember, you really do not know who you are talking to on here. You may think you're talking to a female and it's a man, etc. You never know. Judy thought she had met a knight in shining armor, and he stabbed her 30 times after raping her. Please be very very careful what personal information you give out to others....and never give out your home address.

My unsolved mystery is my GGGG Grandfather, RICHARD PELL. Seems Richard was a young lad about the age of 10 back in England where one day he was playing ball with a group of other boys. The ball went into a hog pen and he was the only boy brave enough to go into the pen to retrieve the ball. A mother pig charged him and young Richard picked up a rock and threw it at her. Unfortunately, it missed the mother pig, hitting and killing a piglet. Richard was arrested, accused and tried for "pig murder." Because the laws were very strict about such things at that time, young Richard was taken from his parents and shipped to the colonies as a "bound boy." In the USA, Richard served his indenture until he reached age 21 and became proficient at iron work. My mystery actually begins when he landed in the USA. I have found his name on the passenger list of the ship, The Forward Galley, a convict ship which sailed from England in May, 1737, for Maryland and Virginia. The indication is that he was either born in or lived in Surrey, England, at the time of this pig incident. This is where I need some major help! Depending on what book you look in, Richard either landed in Maryland or Virginia! Can anyone give me any idea where to look for records that would tell exactly which port he arrived in and to where he was sent for his indenture? I'm hitting that preverbal brick wall on this one, folks!! Thanks for ANY help! Claudia in Kentucky,USA Researching PELL FAIRFAX BUTCHER BROWN GOOLSEY JOHNSTON BURDESS URWIN SMITH PHILLIPS PYLES PILES HOLT ALLISON

Some possibilities to try: Have you contacted the court for more information from the adoption records? Check out Cyndi's list - she has a section on adoptions that lists places where you can post the info and see if there is a match, someone looking for you. <A HREF="http://www.CyndisList.com">Cyndi's Genealogy Sites</A> On Cyndi's list, there is a section on mailing lists - have you posted to the New York list and maybe a list for Italian-American genealogy? AOL also has some bulletin boards - Keyword Roots. Post to New York, and anywhere else that would be pertinent. Check out this woman detective's site - she has some unusual ways of finding people and info... <A HREF="http://www.ratdogdick.com/">Rat Dog Dick Detective Agency</A> She writes articles for newspapers on finding people. (When you can't find the person through genealogy research, you look at it like a detective and it gives you some new ways to search!) One quick idea that works great for me: I use my word processor to write a message offline, so I can make sure that I have all the dates and info correct, and I have not forgotten anything, then when I find a place I want to post, I use the Edit feature in AOL and the word processor to "copy and paste" the message I have written into a blank email form. I save the message in my word processor as a file with the family name or what the email is for, so it is easy to find when I want it. A good title for it would be Search, so you would know where the file is when you are looking at sites where you want to download a message. Makes it so easy and quick to send to a site when you find it. I am working on seven families, so I have a lot of family files and it saves me hours of rewriting emails.....Good luck with your search, Pat Jorgensen