Mary Lee, Just out of curiousity are the birthdates the same on the marriage license and the SS application? Diana, San Diego

My sisrer was married to a Gill. He was from central Alabama, died in Gulf Port, Miss and is buried in the National cemetary in Biloxi. delilah At 00:42 7/8/00 EDT, you wrote: >Are there any Gill's out there..... > > >==== GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES Mailing List ==== >Please consider becoming a Rootsweb contributor. > >============================== >The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >Tens of millions of individuals... and counting. >http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > >

I have an Elenoria Gill, dates unknown, but married to my William Lemuel Richard Meyers; they would be about 1825-30, as their daughter, Mary Ellen Meyers was born May 23, 1850 in Marion, Ohio. If you find a possible connection, or more information on this line, I would appreicate it, as this is all I have. Lory J. Whicker ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jorja51@aol.com> To: <GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 10:42 PM Subject: Re: Gill's > Are there any Gill's out there..... > > > ==== GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES Mailing List ==== > Please consider becoming a Rootsweb contributor. > > ============================== > The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Tens of millions of individuals... and counting. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > >

Thanks- hope to have something soon. I am wishing and hoping for you. Lady Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: "mary stickney" <stickneys@alltel.net> To: <GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 10:14 AM Subject: (no subject) > My name is Mary Lee Rogness; I was born in Iowa City Iowa. I am looking > for information on my father who died when I was 2. His name is Robert > Roy Rogness, > born 02/15/1927, died 11/22/1963. He married my Mother in 1957 in Iowa > City Iowa. > > I am getting conflicting information as to what his parents names are. > He would not talk about his side of the family to my mother. He would > get mad and change the subject, every time she brought it up. He would > only say he was born in Gold Stone Montana and that his mothers name was > Rose. > > I ordered a birth certificate from Montana, and there was not one on > file. > I also ordered a birth certificate from Michigan and North Dakota there > was not one there either. > > He applied for the Social Security Card in Rugby North Dakota on May > 25,1954. > > On his Social Security Card application it says: > He was born Big Rapids Michigan > Father: Robert John Rogness > Mother: Alice McKinzie > > On his and my Mothers marriage certificate it says: > He was born Gold Stone Montana > Father: Gulleck Sven Rogness > Mother: Rose Swenson > > > ==== GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES Mailing List ==== > Please consider becoming a Rootsweb contributor. > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. >

Are there any Gill's out there.....

My name is Mary Lee Rogness; I was born in Iowa City Iowa. I am looking for information on my father who died when I was 2. His name is Robert Roy Rogness, born 02/15/1927, died 11/22/1963. He married my Mother in 1957 in Iowa City Iowa. I am getting conflicting information as to what his parents names are. He would not talk about his side of the family to my mother. He would get mad and change the subject, every time she brought it up. He would only say he was born in Gold Stone Montana and that his mothers name was Rose. I ordered a birth certificate from Montana, and there was not one on file. I also ordered a birth certificate from Michigan and North Dakota there was not one there either. He applied for the Social Security Card in Rugby North Dakota on May 25,1954. On his Social Security Card application it says: He was born Big Rapids Michigan Father: Robert John Rogness Mother: Alice McKinzie On his and my Mothers marriage certificate it says: He was born Gold Stone Montana Father: Gulleck Sven Rogness Mother: Rose Swenson

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Hi found these names in the death index...for Gary Cooper.... hope they help. b.11 Jan 1930 d. 29 Jan 1995 SS# 019-20-2346 zip 97411 b.14 Dec 1929 d. 12 OCT. 1991 SS#232-36-1269 b.18 JAN. 1931 d.JUN. 1986 ZIP 95665 b.22 JUN 1929 d. 23 MAY 1996 SS#365-32-5668 ZIP 46060 b.27 JUN 1929 d. NOV. 1953 SS# 456-36-1924 b.15 OCT. 1930 d. FEB. 1995 SS#485-16-9780 ZIP 96001 b.26 MAY 1930 d. OCT. 1983 SS#571-38-2000 ZIP 48135 b.22 MAR. 1930 d. SEP.1976 SS#495-38-1225 These names came from Generations Family tree software Sierra Home Deluxe Edittion ---------- From: Eileen@j51.com[SMTP:eileen@j51.com] Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 12:25 PM To: GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Searching for a friend's father Anita: Have you tried the Social Security Death List? Eileen > I have posted this before. Gary Franklin Cooper was 26 yrs & 9 months on June > 4, 1957 when he married Beatrice Tedder. They were married in Conway, SC. > I only know he was born in the 1930's but I don't have his birthday. My > friend's mother will not tell her anything. He worked in Charlotte, NC in 1960. > Before he was married he worked with a circus in Myrtle Beach. The circus has > since closed down. My friend would love to find her father. She has never known > him. He left when she was 4 months old because of a family dispute. > ==== GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES Mailing List ==== Please consider becoming a Rootsweb contributor. ============================== Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: http://pml.rootsweb.com/ ____________NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_________ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___________________________________________________________

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Anita: Have you tried the Social Security Death List? Eileen > I have posted this before. Gary Franklin Cooper was 26 yrs & 9 months on June > 4, 1957 when he married Beatrice Tedder. They were married in Conway, SC. > I only know he was born in the 1930's but I don't have his birthday. My > friend's mother will not tell her anything. He worked in Charlotte, NC in 1960. > Before he was married he worked with a circus in Myrtle Beach. The circus has > since closed down. My friend would love to find her father. She has never known > him. He left when she was 4 months old because of a family dispute. >

In a message dated 7/1/00 12:00:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time, paron@bendnet.com writes: << paron@bendnet.com >> I saw your message on the internet. I was wondering how good are you at finding people? I have got an AUnt and an Uncle that I have never met that need to find out about their lives and where they died. Please write me Kozment. Write me at Rozment@aol.com Thanks.

My friend believes he was born in the Mrytle Beach area in South Carolina. His parents were Frank & Edna Cooper. This is from what her mother told her. Also an aunt dated him & she told her that he was born in the Mrytle Beach area. Thanks for your response. Anita Pat wrote: > This Gary Franklin Cooper would have been born about the right year as the > one you are looking for, but I don't know if this is the one you are > seeking. > Pat H > > GARY F. COOPER Gary Franklin Cooper 61, Gardner in Johnson County, died Dec. > 11, 1991, at the Olathe Medical Center. He was born in Eldon, Mo.; moved to > Edgerton in Johnson County in 1966; and moved to Gardner in 1977. Mr. Cooper > was a pipe fitter and a member of Local 533 of the Pipe Fitters Association. > He was an Air Force veteran of the Korean War and was a member of American > Legion in Gardner. He was a member of the Wyandotte Masonic Lodge. Survivors > include his wife, Shirley Cooper of the home; three daughters, Merle Ann > Schick, Gardner, Candise Hughes, Wellsville, Kan., and Cynthia Walters, > Parker, Kan.; two sisters, Gloria Campbell and Margaret Gibbens of Eldon; > and six grandchildren. Services will be at 11 a.m. Saturday at the Bruce > Chapel, Gardner; burial in the Gardner Cemetery. Friends may call from 10 to > 11 a.m. Saturday at the chapel. The family suggests contributions to the > Gardner Presbyterian Church or the Bedford Manor in Gardner. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Anita Roberts <duckula@bellsouth.net> > To: <GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 9:03 PM > Subject: Searching for a friend's father > > > I have posted this before. Gary Franklin Cooper was 26 yrs & 9 months on > June > > 4, 1957 when he married Beatrice Tedder. They were married in Conway, SC. > > I only know he was born in the 1930's but I don't have his birthday. My > > friend's mother will not tell her anything. He worked in Charlotte, NC in > 1960. > > Before he was married he worked with a circus in Myrtle Beach. The circus > has > > since closed down. My friend would love to find her father. She has never > known > > him. He left when she was 4 months old because of a family dispute. > > > > Anybody have any suggestions? > > > > Anita Roberts > > > > > > > > > > ==== GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES Mailing List ==== > > Please consider becoming a Rootsweb contributor. > > > > ============================== > > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > > > >

I run private searches for $25.00. I do find people or money back. I just use your trust. Send information and I will search for you. I will work with what info you have. Lady Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anita Roberts" <duckula@bellsouth.net> To: <GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 7:03 PM Subject: Searching for a friend's father > I have posted this before. Gary Franklin Cooper was 26 yrs & 9 months on June > 4, 1957 when he married Beatrice Tedder. They were married in Conway, SC. > I only know he was born in the 1930's but I don't have his birthday. My > friend's mother will not tell her anything. He worked in Charlotte, NC in 1960. > Before he was married he worked with a circus in Myrtle Beach. The circus has > since closed down. My friend would love to find her father. She has never known > him. He left when she was 4 months old because of a family dispute. > > Anybody have any suggestions? > > Anita Roberts > > > > > ==== GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES Mailing List ==== > Please consider becoming a Rootsweb contributor. > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ >

I have posted this before. Gary Franklin Cooper was 26 yrs & 9 months on June 4, 1957 when he married Beatrice Tedder. They were married in Conway, SC. I only know he was born in the 1930's but I don't have his birthday. My friend's mother will not tell her anything. He worked in Charlotte, NC in 1960. Before he was married he worked with a circus in Myrtle Beach. The circus has since closed down. My friend would love to find her father. She has never known him. He left when she was 4 months old because of a family dispute. Anybody have any suggestions? Anita Roberts

Hi Delilah, Thanks for your reply. Have posted to many of the registries on the net. Am a member of a NYA List. It is the best! Hoping to gain some new info, by trying other places on the net. Praying that someone recognizes the info. The info I have learned on my brother's adoptive family is relatively new to me. So, with this in mind, I hope it sparks a memory of someone out there. Have been looking for him for a long time. Again thanks for your time, any thoughts are most greatly appreciated:) tabitha -----Original Message----- From: diamond6468@mindspring.com <diamond6468@mindspring.com> To: GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-L@rootsweb.com <GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, June 29, 2000 3:42 PM Subject: Re: Searching for Brother born July 4, 1951 >Have you posted any of this info on any of the adoption triad registries >and there is a very good mailing list for triad members in NY, they will >give you lots of search help >delilah > > > > > > > >At 09:38 6/29/00 -0600, you wrote: >>Thought I would post my mystery to the list, in hopes someone might >>recognize any of the info here. I'm looking for my oldest brother who was >>born in Buffalo, NY on the above date. He was placed with his adoptive >>parents at around the age of 15 months old, somewhere in New York State. >>Prior to his placement with them he was with a foster family. His adoptive >>parents were described as in their early thirties at the time they >>"received" my brother. They are/were Protestant. They had no other children >>of their own either biological or adopted, at the time of my brother's >>adoption. The adoptive father was described as active in his community. He >>was employed in an "industry requiring electronic skills". My brother's >>adoptive mother was a homemaker. Both adoptive parents had high school >>educations, with no other further education listed. The adoptive father was >>English/German and the adoptive mother was Irish/German. If this sounds at >>all familiar to you, or if you have any ideas, it would be greatly >>appreciated if you could email me! >>thanks, >>tabitha >> >> >>==== GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES Mailing List ==== >>Please consider becoming a Rootsweb contributor. >> >>============================== >>Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. >>RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. >>http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >> >> > > >==== GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES Mailing List ==== >Please consider becoming a Rootsweb contributor. > >============================== >Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. >RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >

Have you posted any of this info on any of the adoption triad registries and there is a very good mailing list for triad members in NY, they will give you lots of search help delilah At 09:38 6/29/00 -0600, you wrote: >Thought I would post my mystery to the list, in hopes someone might >recognize any of the info here. I'm looking for my oldest brother who was >born in Buffalo, NY on the above date. He was placed with his adoptive >parents at around the age of 15 months old, somewhere in New York State. >Prior to his placement with them he was with a foster family. His adoptive >parents were described as in their early thirties at the time they >"received" my brother. They are/were Protestant. They had no other children >of their own either biological or adopted, at the time of my brother's >adoption. The adoptive father was described as active in his community. He >was employed in an "industry requiring electronic skills". My brother's >adoptive mother was a homemaker. Both adoptive parents had high school >educations, with no other further education listed. The adoptive father was >English/German and the adoptive mother was Irish/German. If this sounds at >all familiar to you, or if you have any ideas, it would be greatly >appreciated if you could email me! >thanks, >tabitha > > >==== GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES Mailing List ==== >Please consider becoming a Rootsweb contributor. > >============================== >Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. >RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > >

I find it so awful that not only were these children seperated from their parents (however bad one's parents may seem) I'm sure that the children have a right to know why they were left - it could have been that they were taken off of the parents. Also think its awful that siblings were split. Even then it does not end - the court won't allow access to the files. Wouldn't a letter to a local newspaper help? Bubbles from Robin Hood Country. ----- Original Message ----- From: Catherine Comeau <cats14818@yahoo.com> To: <GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 2:04 PM Subject: Abandoned Family 1925 NY, PA Border : able to find the whereabouts of his two sisters, one : he met for the first time in 75 years last fall, the : other died in 1996, and one brother who died fairly : : The children were all taken into the custody of : : :

Thought I would post my mystery to the list, in hopes someone might recognize any of the info here. I'm looking for my oldest brother who was born in Buffalo, NY on the above date. He was placed with his adoptive parents at around the age of 15 months old, somewhere in New York State. Prior to his placement with them he was with a foster family. His adoptive parents were described as in their early thirties at the time they "received" my brother. They are/were Protestant. They had no other children of their own either biological or adopted, at the time of my brother's adoption. The adoptive father was described as active in his community. He was employed in an "industry requiring electronic skills". My brother's adoptive mother was a homemaker. Both adoptive parents had high school educations, with no other further education listed. The adoptive father was English/German and the adoptive mother was Irish/German. If this sounds at all familiar to you, or if you have any ideas, it would be greatly appreciated if you could email me! thanks, tabitha

My father, along with his 4 siblings, were abandoned by their parents, Charles & Katie (Bailey) Hollenback in 1925 in Owego, NY. Through genealogy I have been able to find the whereabouts of his two sisters, one he met for the first time in 75 years last fall, the other died in 1996, and one brother who died fairly recently. We are still searching for any knowledge of the third brother, Elmer Hollenback who was born abt 1919 in either Bradford County, PA or Tioga County, NY. The children were all taken into the custody of Tioga County, NY and were never allowed any knowledge of their parents or each other. In fact, I believe that they even changed the spelling of Hollenback in such munite ways so that if they did try to look for each other, it would be that more difficult. So Hollenback could be spelled Hollenbeck, Hollenbach, or several other variant ways. Again through genealogy, I have been able to find out that his father, Charles Hollenback died in March 1950 in Bradford County, PA and his mother, Katie (Bailey) Hollenback died in Dec 1975 also in Bradford County, PA. We are also seeking information on the reasons for the abandonment. The records were sealed by the court in 1925. We have already been through the court order routine, only to run into a dead end, in that the current Judge, refused to reveal any of the details in the court records. First we would like to find out about Elmer Hollenback, what happened to him and/or did he ever have any family, and to solve the mystery as to why the parents seemingly left town leaving behind 5 children? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

Hi Catherine This is sure one time I disagree with the NY Court System. All of these siblings should have access to that file especially for health reasons. They have the Right to their Heritage. After all this was 75 yrs ago and the parents are dead. Did anyone have the Newspaper Obits on these Parents? Did it show any survivors or additional children? Perhaps if it did they would have the Reason or know some of the Answers. Did the Mother or Father have any Brothers or Sisters that might have an Answer to this Mystery? Just a thought. Also, The Parents must of had in their possession Court Documents regarding this case.Maybe if they had another child they would be aware of it. Bailey was a well known Western NYS Name in the Late 1800's and I am assuming that she was a Descendant of one of these families. Also, another Avenue might be to look for Newspaper Articles in or around the Date that the children were taken by the County and perhaps there might be a story regarding the incident. Maybe a relative reported mistreatment, children left unattended or something. I would look for other Relatives on the Father and Mother's Side such as Sister/Brothers and perhaps a Family Member has some knowledge of this situation. Someone out there must know what happened. It seems that the mother would of tried to locate these children since they were apparantly not that far from each other. How sad that they not only lost their Parents but they lost each other. Maybe Elmer is still living and wondering about his bothers and sisters. However he could of moved to another state further away, married, had a family and perhaps one of them will see you email on Gen Unsolved Mysteries and Reply. I wish you all the Luck in the world and hope you can get a clue. Pat