Hi Darrell, You must think me a bum for not answering your nice note. I'm not, but my computer is. It died taking all my stuff with it. I will forward your nice note to my cousin, Harley. He lives in KC, and these twins were his sisters. Thanks for the support, sorry about the delay Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darrell O'Day" <aesellers@yahoo.com> To: <GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 4:50 PM Subject: Re: Missing Twin Girls in KC, Born Aug 28, 1938 > Peggy, > > That's an amazing story, and certainly a good reason to go into > genealogy. I was attracted to your story because I too was born in > Kansas City in August, 1938. > > I don't know if I can be of any help to you. I wish you luck in your > search. I went into genealogy to try to learn about mysteries in my > family, and sometime we DO reach a dead end, but I'm still searching. > Keep up the search. > > Darrell in Minnesota > > > --- Thompson <ronpegt@tir.com> wrote: > > Hi Listers, Here is my family Mystery. > > The story is written in the words of the man who would be there > > brother. > > Suspensions are, they were stolen at birth? No proof, just > > suspensions. The > > place of Birth was Kansas City. > > Their story... > > First, on the Twin Girls. According to the hospital, the girls died > > shortly after birth. No names were assigned to them - I will dig out > > a > > photograph of the head stone and send it to you later. It reads > > 'Infant > > Twins Ladd'. Mom thought they may have been deformed and died as a > > result. When the 'bodies' were sent to the funeral home, Dad went > > over > > to see them and they refused, saying it was a sealed casket service. > > Years later, I went by the cemetery to visit with them, as I had been > > in > > the habit of doing, and the cemetery was in the process of pulling up > > all of the markers in the area and bringing in loads of fill dirt to > > fill the low area where a dozen or so graves were located. I called > > Mom > > and told her what was going on, so she and Dad made a trip out to the > > cemetery to check my story out. The foreman on the job saw Mom > > looking > > around and went over and asked if he could help her. She told him she > > was looking for the 'Infant Twins Ladd'. He asked Mom if he could ask > > her a personal question about the graves as to why, when they opened > > the > > caskets to verify the person buried, in the 'Twins' casket there were > > no > > bodies, no bones, no nothing - the casket was buried EMPTY. Mom had > > the > > family lawyer check the hospital - and there was NO record of Mom > > being > > in the hospital and giving birth to the Twins. He checked the funeral > > home and they had NO record of a service or a sale for the Twins. A > > lot > > of suspicion has built up over time as to what really happened to > > them. > > With the advent of DNA many things are now possible and this is why I > > got into genealogy. Mom's thought was that they were involved in a > > clandestine sale of babies and that someone obtained them unknown to > > us. > > I expect my research to meet a dead end and the mystery will never be > > solved. > > If you have any clues to these missing twins please contact me. > > Peggy Holloway Thompson > > ronpegt@tir.com > > > > > > ==== GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES Mailing List ==== > > Please consider becoming a Rootsweb contributor. > > > > ============================== > > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! > http://photos.yahoo.com > > > ==== GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES Mailing List ==== > Please consider becoming a Rootsweb contributor. > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > >

Hi Listers! I had not seen any Gen-Unsolved-Mysteries Emails in about two weeks. Today I have received several emails and it appears that there must of been prior messages that they are referring to. I am at a loss to the topics. Can someone tell me if my messages were possibly not coming through or was there a 2 week lapse? Has there been messages right along? Thank you Pat

ROSWELL NOURSE SSN 284-05-2209 Residence: 32958 Sebastian, Indian River, FL Born 12 Oct 1910 Last Benefit: Died Nov 1985 Issued: OH (Before 1951) Just in case you didn't see this, This Roswell Nourse's SSN was issued in Ohio. Could this possibly be the one you are searching for. Pat H ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathy Nourse <knourse@peganet.com> To: <GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 3:56 PM Subject: great grandfather > Roswell Chester Nourse left his home in Cleveland, OH December 9, 1930 and > no one ever heard of him again. I have searched for similar names and dates > on Social Security index but have found nothing. Family members have looked > over the years but nothing. We are at a loss as to what to try next. > It was the Depression and he was behind on his mortgage payments. > We would appreciate any help. > Kathy Nourse > > > ==== GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES Mailing List ==== > Please consider becoming a Rootsweb contributor. > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > >

Roswell Chester Nourse left his home in Cleveland, OH December 9, 1930 and no one ever heard of him again. I have searched for similar names and dates on Social Security index but have found nothing. Family members have looked over the years but nothing. We are at a loss as to what to try next. It was the Depression and he was behind on his mortgage payments. We would appreciate any help. Kathy Nourse

Tried all that! At 14:38 7/9/00 -0400, you wrote: >Shouldn't they forward a letter to her from him as they both have requested >to meet?? They would do that in our county here in Michigan and I can't >imagine there is that much difference in states. Also there is the Freedom >of Information Act to try to use. Ads in newspapers of the area. There are >also the hundreds of adoptee message boards, and organizations such as CUB >and ALMA which reunite families. > >...Kathleen >----- Original Message ----- >From: <diamond6468@mindspring.com> >To: <GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 9:53 AM >Subject: searching for half-sister > > >> On Feb 1, 1966, a male child was born in Daytona Beach, Florida - was >> eventually adopted in the state of Alabama - he requested a search be done >> for his birthmother in 1999, the Al DHR did so and found that she had died >> of lung cancer in 1985, but that he had a half-sister who had kept him >> while he was a child (prior to his adoption), and had looked for him and >> rerquested that Al DHR tell him her address, they refused. Not much >mystery >> but since he cannot get any info from DHR, we are trying all avenues. Her >> name is possibly Barbara, and his birthname is possibly Ward. He now wants >> to find his sister and where his birth mom was buried. Any help would be >> appreciated. >> delilah >> >> >> ==== GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES Mailing List ==== >> Please consider becoming a Rootsweb contributor. >> >> ============================== >> Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. >> http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >> Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. >> >> > > >==== GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES Mailing List ==== >Please consider becoming a Rootsweb contributor. > >============================== >Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. >RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > >

I am a member of Ancestry .com - if you want anything looked up delilah At 15:45 7/9/00 EDT, you wrote: >Eleanor: > >How did you get into the Ancestry.com free offer. I have trie to get in for >day, with no luck. > >Thanks, > >Victoria > > >==== GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES Mailing List ==== >Please consider becoming a Rootsweb contributor. > >============================== >Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > >

Shouldn't they forward a letter to her from him as they both have requested to meet?? They would do that in our county here in Michigan and I can't imagine there is that much difference in states. Also there is the Freedom of Information Act to try to use. Ads in newspapers of the area. There are also the hundreds of adoptee message boards, and organizations such as CUB and ALMA which reunite families. ...Kathleen ----- Original Message ----- From: <diamond6468@mindspring.com> To: <GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 9:53 AM Subject: searching for half-sister > On Feb 1, 1966, a male child was born in Daytona Beach, Florida - was > eventually adopted in the state of Alabama - he requested a search be done > for his birthmother in 1999, the Al DHR did so and found that she had died > of lung cancer in 1985, but that he had a half-sister who had kept him > while he was a child (prior to his adoption), and had looked for him and > rerquested that Al DHR tell him her address, they refused. Not much mystery > but since he cannot get any info from DHR, we are trying all avenues. Her > name is possibly Barbara, and his birthname is possibly Ward. He now wants > to find his sister and where his birth mom was buried. Any help would be > appreciated. > delilah > > > ==== GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES Mailing List ==== > Please consider becoming a Rootsweb contributor. > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > >

Keep searching, don't give up. It took thirty years and the past 2-3 years with queries all over the internet but finally found out what happened to my grandfather. I found I have a new aunt and uncle and a host of cousins. Grandfater Leslie Wehrle more or less abandon his family in 1920. From the time he married my grandmother in 1911 until his supposed death in 1923 he had four aliases: Real name Leslie Ray Wehrle and then Orville May, Charles Brown and Alfred Leslie Worley. In the SSDI you can put in a birth date if you have it and check that way. Spell the name differently. Our grandfather seemed to take names of people he met as a railroad telegrapher, persons with all the above names were telegraphers. The one Orville May, I have his retirement papers, he had a family of his own. My grandfather just borrowed his name for a few years. With the SSDI you can put the name in all different ways, First, last name. He might have used his fathers name. My guess is he just walked away from his troubles and became someone else. Good luck. You have lots of places to look. Marilyn

Eleanor: How did you get into the Ancestry.com free offer. I have trie to get in for day, with no luck. Thanks, Victoria

Not sure this would help any, but years ago I lived in Albany, GA and there were many Thalheimers living there. Possibly some distant relatives? Judy Joybug@aol.com wrote: > HI, > > My ancestors (stating their place of birth as Germany) seem to have > mysteriously appeared in Baltimore in 1850 with a Maryland born (1839) girl > child living in their household. > > The NARA says they can't find them in their indexes. Any ideas? > > Joy > > ==== GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES Mailing List ==== > Please consider becoming a Rootsweb contributor. > > ============================== > The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Tens of millions of individuals... and counting. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

On Feb 1, 1966, a male child was born in Daytona Beach, Florida - was eventually adopted in the state of Alabama - he requested a search be done for his birthmother in 1999, the Al DHR did so and found that she had died of lung cancer in 1985, but that he had a half-sister who had kept him while he was a child (prior to his adoption), and had looked for him and rerquested that Al DHR tell him her address, they refused. Not much mystery but since he cannot get any info from DHR, we are trying all avenues. Her name is possibly Barbara, and his birthname is possibly Ward. He now wants to find his sister and where his birth mom was buried. Any help would be appreciated. delilah

There are a bunch of Gills in Dale Co. Al. I went to school and lived near several Gills. Url: Aldale-list@rootsweb.com. Lew ----- Original Message ----- From: <SusiesCue772@webtv.net> To: <GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 12:02 AM Subject: Re: Gills > There are 303 references to Gills in the > DAR lineage books at Ancestry.com. > Today (July 9) is the last day that this > database is free. > I think the DAR's records are pretty > reliable for accuracy. > I went to high school with a guy named > Gill. > Eleanor in PA > > > ==== GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES Mailing List ==== > Please consider becoming a Rootsweb contributor. > > ============================== > The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Tens of millions of individuals... and counting. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ >

HI, My ancestors (stating their place of birth as Germany) seem to have mysteriously appeared in Baltimore in 1850 with a Maryland born (1839) girl child living in their household. The NARA says they can't find them in their indexes. Any ideas? Joy

There are 303 references to Gills in the DAR lineage books at Ancestry.com. Today (July 9) is the last day that this database is free. I think the DAR's records are pretty reliable for accuracy. I went to high school with a guy named Gill. Eleanor in PA

I guess the story goes as this. Marvin is my Grandpa (moms Dad): > Tal wanted me to tell you that he just got off the phone with your Mom - and > what happened in the bar went this way. Erma was not at the bar at all - it > was Marvin and your real Dad. Your Dad eventually left the bar but Marvin > was still there - this guy came over to Marvin and said I knew Bob when he > lived in California and had 4 kids. Pat also said Erma thought he might > have been around 49 years old (Tal doesn't think he was that old). > My Dad was in the Korean War and my Dad would be (if he were alive) about 76 > years old. Robert Gottschalk wrote: > > At least you got that much from him. Did you get any clues from that info or > do you have it anymore? Have you check with the courts where you were born > to see if he changed his name there? Did your mother say whether he had any > accent to tell what part of the country he may have been from , he could > have faked it for awhile ,but he would be quite an actor if he could keep it > up for a wife. > Marsha > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mary Stickney <STICKNEYS@ALLTEL.NET> > To: Robert Gottschalk <BOB_GOTTSCHALK@prodigy.net> > Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 7:31 PM > Subject: Re: [IOWA] (no subject) > > > been there done that. :-) > > > > he is not listed in the index , but we drew death benefits and I was > > able to give them my ss# and they found him. > > > > > > > > Robert Gottschalk wrote: > > > > > > Hi Mary, > > > Does he show up in the SSDI if so send for the application he had to > fill > > > out for his social security card. They are available on the internet . > Just > > > go to : file://ancestry.com go to the end of the line if he appears > there > > > and it will say view ,click on it they offer you a form you print and > send > > > to them with $7.00. That may just serve you more confusion. But its > > > something else you can do if you haven't already. > > > Marsha > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Mary Stickney <STICKNEYS@ALLTEL.NET> > > > To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 4:48 PM > > > Subject: Re: [IOWA] (no subject) > > > > > > > I have no knowledeg of any relatives of his. And I am not certain that > > > > Rogness is his name. My Aunt Sue says she and my moms brother don't > > > > think that was his name and that he looked older then he sadi he was. > > > > > > > > He had no will. > > > > > > > > I am going to get the Mecost count Michigan 1920 census from Heritage > > > > Quest and see if his parents are on it. > > > > I already bought the hill county Montana one. Going to go thru it > once > > > > more in the AM. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Duponts wrote: > > > > > > > > > > If you know what county your father died in and he had a will, > that > > > might > > > > > give you some clues as to other relatives. > > > > > > > > > > If he has any siblings, you could check on their social security > apps > > > and > > > > > birth certificates and possibly get some consistent information from > > > those. > > > > > > > > > > Are you certain that his name legally was Robert Roy Rogness? > Unless > > > you > > > > > have other relatives of his that you know who are also named > Rogness, > > > you > > > > > might want to consider the idea that he changed his first and/or > last > > > name > > > > > at some point. > > > > > > > > > > Also, if you know where he lived prior to marrying your mother, you > > > could go > > > > > through old newspapers hoping to find some tidbit of information > about > > > him. > > > > > I know several of my relatives had car accidents that were reported > in > > > the > > > > > newspapers (hope I don't carry on that trend) - back then even a > minor > > > car > > > > > accident was worthy of a write-up in the local paper. > > > > > > > > > > This is an interesting puzzle - please keep us updated on your > progress! > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "mary stickney" <stickneys@alltel.net> > > > > > To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 10:14 AM > > > > > Subject: [IOWA] (no subject) > > > > > > > > > > > My name is Mary Lee Rogness; I was born in Iowa City Iowa. I am > > > looking > > > > > > for information on my father who died when I was 2. His name is > Robert > > > > > > Roy Rogness, > > > > > > born 02/15/1927, died 11/22/1963. He married my Mother in 1957 in > Iowa > > > > > > City Iowa. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am getting conflicting information as to what his parents names > are. > > > > > > He would not talk about his side of the family to my mother. He > would > > > > > > get mad and change the subject, every time she brought it up. He > would > > > > > > only say he was born in Gold Stone Montana and that his mothers > name > > > was > > > > > > Rose. > > > > > > > > > > > > I ordered a birth certificate from Montana, and there was not one > on > > > > > > file. > > > > > > I also ordered a birth certificate from Michigan and North Dakota > > > there > > > > > > was not one there either. > > > > > > > > > > > > He applied for the Social Security Card in Rugby North Dakota on > May > > > > > > 25,1954. > > > > > > > > > > > > On his Social Security Card application it says: > > > > > > He was born Big Rapids Michigan > > > > > > Father: Robert John Rogness > > > > > > Mother: Alice McKinzie > > > > > > > > > > > > On his and my Mothers marriage certificate it says: > > > > > > He was born Gold Stone Montana > > > > > > Father: Gulleck Sven Rogness > > > > > > Mother: Rose Swenson > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== IOWA Mailing List ==== > > > > > > For more free Iowa information visit: > > > > > > I A G E N W E B http://www.rootsweb.com/~iagenweb/index.htm > > > > > > IOWA ARCHIVES http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ia/iafiles.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > > > > > > Tens of millions of individuals... and counting. > > > > > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== IOWA Mailing List ==== > > > > > For more free Iowa information visit: > > > > > I A G E N W E B http://www.rootsweb.com/~iagenweb/index.htm > > > > > IOWA ARCHIVES http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ia/iafiles.htm > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > > > > > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > > > > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > (o o) > > > > ------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo------------ > > > > > > > > Mary Stickney > > > > International Black Sheep Society of Genealogists (IBSSG) > > > > Proud owner of 6 BlackSheep > > > > 1 murderer, 1 bank scammer, 1 Incestuous pedophile, 1 deserter, 1 car > > > > thief > > > > 1 forger of government documents (my dad, still can't find who he > really > > > > is/was) > > > > http://blacksheep.amity.org/ > > > > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=stickneys > > > > http://www.genealogy.com/users/r/o/g/Mary-L-Rognessstickney/ > > > > > > > > ______________________________ > > > > -- > > > > (o o) > > ------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo------------ > > > > Mary Stickney > > International Black Sheep Society of Genealogists (IBSSG) > > Proud owner of 6 BlackSheep > > 1 murderer, 1 bank scammer, 1 Incestuous pedophile, 1 deserter, 1 car > > thief > > 1 forger of government documents (my dad, still can't find who he really > > is/was) > > http://blacksheep.amity.org/ > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=stickneys > > http://www.genealogy.com/users/r/o/g/Mary-L-Rognessstickney/ -- (o o) ------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo------------ Mary Stickney International Black Sheep Society of Genealogists (IBSSG) Proud owner of 6 BlackSheep 1 murderer, 1 bank scammer, 1 Incestuous pedophile, 1 deserter, 1 car thief 1 forger of government documents (my dad, still can't find who he really is/was) http://blacksheep.amity.org/ http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=stickneys http://www.genealogy.com/users/r/o/g/Mary-L-Rognessstickney/

no accent. I just got this from my Aunt Sue. Also My Aunt Erma told my mother today that she was in a bar once with my father and Some guy came up to him and said he remembered him from when he lived in California with 4 kids Tal remembers hearing that he had lived in California - but doesn't remember > who he heard it from. Also Tal remembers (think I told you this before) > that a lady called Pat's house 2 or 3 times asking for him when he was in > the hospital. But Pat doesn't seem to remember that anymore. Tal clearly > remembers that being discussed. > > Tal says Erma probably knows a lot about your Dad and Tal is sure she has > some pictures of him. If you want me to - I will ask Erma if she has any > pictures of him - as there is a picture that we cannot find of Tal that Erma > sent us. It was (the only school picture - beside the high school or Jr. > High picture that I sent you). So sad Edna doesn't have any pictures - God > my Mom took hundreds of pictures of my brother and myself. She overdid it - > but I'm thankful now. > Robert Gottschalk wrote: > > At least you got that much from him. Did you get any clues from that info or > do you have it anymore? Have you check with the courts where you were born > to see if he changed his name there? Did your mother say whether he had any > accent to tell what part of the country he may have been from , he could > have faked it for awhile ,but he would be quite an actor if he could keep it > up for a wife. > Marsha > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mary Stickney <STICKNEYS@ALLTEL.NET> > To: Robert Gottschalk <BOB_GOTTSCHALK@prodigy.net> > Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 7:31 PM > Subject: Re: [IOWA] (no subject) > > > been there done that. :-) > > > > he is not listed in the index , but we drew death benefits and I was > > able to give them my ss# and they found him. > > > > > > > > Robert Gottschalk wrote: > > > > > > Hi Mary, > > > Does he show up in the SSDI if so send for the application he had to > fill > > > out for his social security card. They are available on the internet . > Just > > > go to : file://ancestry.com go to the end of the line if he appears > there > > > and it will say view ,click on it they offer you a form you print and > send > > > to them with $7.00. That may just serve you more confusion. But its > > > something else you can do if you haven't already. > > > Marsha > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Mary Stickney <STICKNEYS@ALLTEL.NET> > > > To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 4:48 PM > > > Subject: Re: [IOWA] (no subject) > > > > > > > I have no knowledeg of any relatives of his. And I am not certain that > > > > Rogness is his name. My Aunt Sue says she and my moms brother don't > > > > think that was his name and that he looked older then he sadi he was. > > > > > > > > He had no will. > > > > > > > > I am going to get the Mecost count Michigan 1920 census from Heritage > > > > Quest and see if his parents are on it. > > > > I already bought the hill county Montana one. Going to go thru it > once > > > > more in the AM. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Duponts wrote: > > > > > > > > > > If you know what county your father died in and he had a will, > that > > > might > > > > > give you some clues as to other relatives. > > > > > > > > > > If he has any siblings, you could check on their social security > apps > > > and > > > > > birth certificates and possibly get some consistent information from > > > those. > > > > > > > > > > Are you certain that his name legally was Robert Roy Rogness? > Unless > > > you > > > > > have other relatives of his that you know who are also named > Rogness, > > > you > > > > > might want to consider the idea that he changed his first and/or > last > > > name > > > > > at some point. > > > > > > > > > > Also, if you know where he lived prior to marrying your mother, you > > > could go > > > > > through old newspapers hoping to find some tidbit of information > about > > > him. > > > > > I know several of my relatives had car accidents that were reported > in > > > the > > > > > newspapers (hope I don't carry on that trend) - back then even a > minor > > > car > > > > > accident was worthy of a write-up in the local paper. > > > > > > > > > > This is an interesting puzzle - please keep us updated on your > progress! > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "mary stickney" <stickneys@alltel.net> > > > > > To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 10:14 AM > > > > > Subject: [IOWA] (no subject) > > > > > > > > > > > My name is Mary Lee Rogness; I was born in Iowa City Iowa. I am > > > looking > > > > > > for information on my father who died when I was 2. His name is > Robert > > > > > > Roy Rogness, > > > > > > born 02/15/1927, died 11/22/1963. He married my Mother in 1957 in > Iowa > > > > > > City Iowa. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am getting conflicting information as to what his parents names > are. > > > > > > He would not talk about his side of the family to my mother. He > would > > > > > > get mad and change the subject, every time she brought it up. He > would > > > > > > only say he was born in Gold Stone Montana and that his mothers > name > > > was > > > > > > Rose. > > > > > > > > > > > > I ordered a birth certificate from Montana, and there was not one > on > > > > > > file. > > > > > > I also ordered a birth certificate from Michigan and North Dakota > > > there > > > > > > was not one there either. > > > > > > > > > > > > He applied for the Social Security Card in Rugby North Dakota on > May > > > > > > 25,1954. > > > > > > > > > > > > On his Social Security Card application it says: > > > > > > He was born Big Rapids Michigan > > > > > > Father: Robert John Rogness > > > > > > Mother: Alice McKinzie > > > > > > > > > > > > On his and my Mothers marriage certificate it says: > > > > > > He was born Gold Stone Montana > > > > > > Father: Gulleck Sven Rogness > > > > > > Mother: Rose Swenson > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== IOWA Mailing List ==== > > > > > > For more free Iowa information visit: > > > > > > I A G E N W E B http://www.rootsweb.com/~iagenweb/index.htm > > > > > > IOWA ARCHIVES http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ia/iafiles.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > > > > > > Tens of millions of individuals... and counting. > > > > > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== IOWA Mailing List ==== > > > > > For more free Iowa information visit: > > > > > I A G E N W E B http://www.rootsweb.com/~iagenweb/index.htm > > > > > IOWA ARCHIVES http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ia/iafiles.htm > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > > > > > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > > > > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > (o o) > > > > ------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo------------ > > > > > > > > Mary Stickney > > > > International Black Sheep Society of Genealogists (IBSSG) > > > > Proud owner of 6 BlackSheep > > > > 1 murderer, 1 bank scammer, 1 Incestuous pedophile, 1 deserter, 1 car > > > > thief > > > > 1 forger of government documents (my dad, still can't find who he > really > > > > is/was) > > > > http://blacksheep.amity.org/ > > > > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=stickneys > > > > http://www.genealogy.com/users/r/o/g/Mary-L-Rognessstickney/ > > > > > > > > ______________________________ > > > > -- > > > > (o o) > > ------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo------------ > > > > Mary Stickney > > International Black Sheep Society of Genealogists (IBSSG) > > Proud owner of 6 BlackSheep > > 1 murderer, 1 bank scammer, 1 Incestuous pedophile, 1 deserter, 1 car > > thief > > 1 forger of government documents (my dad, still can't find who he really > > is/was) > > http://blacksheep.amity.org/ > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=stickneys > > http://www.genealogy.com/users/r/o/g/Mary-L-Rognessstickney/ -- (o o) ------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo------------ Mary Stickney International Black Sheep Society of Genealogists (IBSSG) Proud owner of 6 BlackSheep 1 murderer, 1 bank scammer, 1 Incestuous pedophile, 1 deserter, 1 car thief 1 forger of government documents (my dad, still can't find who he really is/was) http://blacksheep.amity.org/ http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=stickneys http://www.genealogy.com/users/r/o/g/Mary-L-Rognessstickney/

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------414A654107E3032490BF28C1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit and look at this letter I got from my Aunt Sue --------------414A654107E3032490BF28C1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from coollink.net (coollink.net [169.132.8.9]) by mail.alltel.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/ALLTEL Internet) with ESMTP id RAA05482 for <STICKNEYS@ALLTEL.NET>; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 17:52:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from talby (ppp-11.ts-4.lax.idt.net [169.132.153.155]) by coollink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA27063 for <STICKNEYS@ALLTEL.NET>; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 18:52:15 -0400 Message-ID: <000001bfe92f$66852600$9b9984a9@talby> From: "susie yerington" <talby@coollink.net> To: "Mary Stickney" <STICKNEYS@ALLTEL.NET> References: <39679214.FFEF52D6@ALLTEL.NET> Subject: Re: (no subject) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 15:48:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Mary, We got the pictures that you sent today - thanks a lot - really appreciate it. If you didn't get the pictures that we sent you by today - then you'll get them Monday. Tal sent them out Thursday morning. Tal remembers hearing that he had lived in California - but doesn't remember who he heard it from. Also Tal remembers (think I told you this before) that a lady called Pat's house 2 or 3 times asking for him when he was in the hospital. But Pat doesn't seem to remember that anymore. Tal clearly remembers that being discussed. Pat is suppose to call us tonight around 7pm. She called here today just as I was going out the door to pick Tal up from work. Tal works until 2:30 on Saturdays - so she said she would call back tonight. She said remember I'll be out there in 2 weeks. I told her I knew that and we were waiting for her. We will have to go on diets before she arrives and after she leaves - as we always go out to eat a lot. I try and be good - but Pat makes me eat!!!! Tal says Erma probably knows a lot about your Dad and Tal is sure she has some pictures of him. If you want me to - I will ask Erma if she has any pictures of him - as there is a picture that we cannot find of Tal that Erma sent us. It was (the only school picture - beside the high school or Jr. High picture that I sent you). So sad Edna doesn't have any pictures - God my Mom took hundreds of pictures of my brother and myself. She overdid it - but I'm thankful now. Mary - if you think about it - you probably have a really nice family out here in California. Wouldn't that be great if you did. Love, Susie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Stickney" <STICKNEYS@ALLTEL.NET> To: "Lori Scott" <lscott2@unl.edu>; "rachelle" <rcurtis@machlink.com>; "tal yerington" <talby@coollink.net> Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 1:41 PM Subject: (no subject) > I just got off the phone with Mom. > > She went to lunch with her sister Erma this week AND > > Erma said that she and my Dad were in a bar one time when some guy came > up to my Dad and said that he knew him from when he lived in California > and had 4 kids. > --------------414A654107E3032490BF28C1--

I will try and run a search for Robert Roy Rogness. I think I have run this search before ?? Search was requested by a man- brother of yours? Lady Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: <DIANAJE@aol.com> To: <GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 5:13 PM Subject: Re: Robert Roy Rogness > Hi Mary Lee, > I was trying out some new CDs I have and there are several Rogness' listed as > living in California at one time or another. Have you tried looking up > Rogness in any of the online phone directories? Have you thought about > sending for any Social Security files for any issued in California. They > might be part of his "other family". > > I just looked in the San Diego phone book and there are 2 listed. > > C. R. Rogness 858-565-0777 > Curtis A. Rogness 858-278-1862 > > Are you up to making a phone call? > Diana, San Diego > > > ==== GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES Mailing List ==== > Please consider becoming a Rootsweb contributor. > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >

yes the are. and : I just got off the phone with Mom. She went to lunch with her sister Erma this week AND Erma said that she and my Dad were in a bar one time when some guy came up to my Dad and said that he knew him from when he lived in California and had 4 kids. DIANAJE@aol.com wrote: > > Mary Lee, > Just out of curiousity are the birthdates the same on the marriage license > and the SS application? > Diana, San Diego > > ==== GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES Mailing List ==== > Please consider becoming a Rootsweb contributor. > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi -- (o o) ------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo------------ Mary Stickney International Black Sheep Society of Genealogists (IBSSG) Proud owner of 6 BlackSheep 1 murderer, 1 bank scammer, 1 Incestuous pedophile, 1 deserter, 1 car thief 1 forger of government documents (my dad, still can't find who he really is/was) http://blacksheep.amity.org/ http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=stickneys http://www.genealogy.com/users/r/o/g/Mary-L-Rognessstickney/

Hi Mary Lee, I was trying out some new CDs I have and there are several Rogness' listed as living in California at one time or another. Have you tried looking up Rogness in any of the online phone directories? Have you thought about sending for any Social Security files for any issued in California. They might be part of his "other family". I just looked in the San Diego phone book and there are 2 listed. C. R. Rogness 858-565-0777 Curtis A. Rogness 858-278-1862 Are you up to making a phone call? Diana, San Diego