It sure is! I’m working on it this evening. Everyone will be receiving an invitation tomorrow to our new list! Dee Pavey List admin Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Dee H. Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2020 10:26 PM To: gen-unsolved-mysteries@rootsweb.com Cc: Dee Pavey Subject: Re: [GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES] Admin Post Please Read Is this group going to be moving? if so will it be moving to io groups? Dee H. genluver_2@yahoo.com I cannot breathe life into you I can only be. On Wednesday, January 30, 2019, 05:13:59 PM MST, Dee Pavey via GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES <gen-unsolved-mysteries@rootsweb.com> wrote: Hi everyone! I am the admin for the Gen-Unsolved-Mysteries mail list. I would like to invite you all to begin sharing your Unsolved Msyteries with everyone else here on the mail list. Rootsweb has said that lists that aren’t used may be deactivated and I would hate for that to happen to this list! Please consider posting your unsolved mysteries as soon as possible! Dee List Admin _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/gen-unsolved-mysteries@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Is this group going to be moving? if so will it be moving to io groups? Dee H. genluver_2@yahoo.com I cannot breathe life into you I can only be. On Wednesday, January 30, 2019, 05:13:59 PM MST, Dee Pavey via GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES <gen-unsolved-mysteries@rootsweb.com> wrote: Hi everyone! I am the admin for the Gen-Unsolved-Mysteries mail list. I would like to invite you all to begin sharing your Unsolved Msyteries with everyone else here on the mail list. Rootsweb has said that lists that aren’t used may be deactivated and I would hate for that to happen to this list! Please consider posting your unsolved mysteries as soon as possible! Dee List Admin _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/gen-unsolved-mysteries@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Hello Audrey, In 1998 you left a message on a forum regarding John Joseph Steven Barry (or Berry) AKA Joseph Bernon DOB ABT 1883. I am researching him as well. I believe you have been in contact with my aunt, Jenice Kashey - Barry’s granddaughter. Barry is my great grandfather. I have several documents, Census, WWI & II Draft registrations, immigration documents etc. The records I have collected seem to indicate that there are at least 20 people going by the name, John Berry (Barry) during the 1900s-1940s. Do you have any additional information or have you narrowed it down a little? Thanks!! Joel M. Hollaar
Peter Paul Farrell was born in June 1885 in Brooklyn New York to John Joseph Farrell and Ellen (Lonergan). John was from Waterford and Ellen from Tipperary. Peter Paul's siblings were John Joseph, Mary, Anastasia and Frederick. The family moved to Jersey City New Jersey sometime before 1900. Peter Paul served in the army in World War 1 and at the end of the war in 1920 is living with his parents on Grand Street in Jersey City.......then he disappears........ _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fbit.ly%2frootswebpref&c=E,1,WDtWjRXg33IqG1PywjlW4-F6X66UcTxmE9rbGovr4DCvLm9tIiiO0KO6Y_FqDw2Nc8vF-CwNPhod7ieKvT5I-6ZQUZneAQmTFTQXU1h2YTBcHThyJO6b9g,,&typo=1 Unsubscribe https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2flists.rootsweb.com%2fpostorius%2flists%2fgen-unsolved-mysteries%40rootsweb.com&c=E,1,4GmJvPepxSf1m7kaj7d9r6uITtf-bohVNAQHg3Z-Ool-ujagSUmw1hnXUVP4oSMGLYLS4corkyMiPznyURbOTl33mGt7E4CQtSLutsZ1i0TqSURQkKzhX4UPTA,,&typo=1 Privacy Statement: https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fancstry.me%2f2JWBOdY&c=E,1,SptcJqycFm1mkGLoV4MmodPKlXQkyr8444uqfNyN6VQEI_mLeoEfLWAecagtrnS8vuFaBvqK7FKD8xniGfT8qiQ6SWsjaMAFl_JkCblX-c54e9-Mzw,,&typo=1 Terms and Conditions: https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fancstry.me%2f2HDBym9&c=E,1,imXKxk6CDPHfQdNh3F_O_pesLD2UjfkdKjXCve1w7lFHb7t9VRdq2RHdRlpkWSPeabDJJJk_kUND47WvGUy_tNFqOsFnAkm4aEXf0eU0xCS3GmU,&typo=1 Rootsweb Blog: https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2frootsweb.blog&c=E,1,0gr7P9s24RwVEB14ql-VXKPhF8avdwYcInZGzH6Hdr122SLS00l2sOmqEOfhR2-HkqBngdV7_zYySFwOrJsf7xh-J-ZcTrzVZh7Dm1CS7Fssux6B93__3Ks,&typo=1 RootsWeb is funded and supported by https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fAncestry.com&c=E,1,Z9rvCAs7FizcXG6UeuFG5UzEEvMkT7EiBdvZKJNhDZIX-OqpScWpoV5m6CdbUt2jCFmM6JFGngAmDjYMEBqmpueo-duyrOzZ438gJZyfDt7GcSdLMGjYzQ,,&typo=1 and our loyal RootsWeb community
My unsolved mysteries are: 1. Who are the parents of Fenton Mosher Brown, born 1807 and his brother James, born 1809, both in TN? Their father was born in VA and mother in NC according to various censuses. 2. Who are the parents of Abbygill Hayes, born 20 March 1809 in NC and her sister, Joannah Sarah (or Sarah Joannah) Hayes, born 18190 in VA according to various censuses. Any help greatly appreciated!! Dusti On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 5:14 PM Dee Pavey via GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES < gen-unsolved-mysteries@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I am the admin for the Gen-Unsolved-Mysteries mail list. I would like to > invite you all to begin sharing your Unsolved Msyteries with everyone else > here on the mail list. > > Rootsweb has said that lists that aren’t used may be deactivated and I > would hate for that to happen to this list! > > Please consider posting your unsolved mysteries as soon as possible! > > Dee > List Admin > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/gen-unsolved-mysteries@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >
Hi everyone! I am the admin for the Gen-Unsolved-Mysteries mail list. I would like to invite you all to begin sharing your Unsolved Msyteries with everyone else here on the mail list. Rootsweb has said that lists that aren’t used may be deactivated and I would hate for that to happen to this list! Please consider posting your unsolved mysteries as soon as possible! Dee List Admin
I have a major unsolved mystery which concerns my paternal great-grandparents. My uncle told me that he "arrived too late for his grandfather's funeral but was six months in time for his grandmother's". He arrived here in April, 1906. I have chased my great-grandparents anywhere and everywhere - passenger lists, naturalizations, death certificates and even to the cemetery he said they were buried in - with absolutely no luck. They don't seem to have existed at all. I found a man who got off a boat with 3 children in the right time frame who seems to have vanished off the face of the earth. I found another man who could be him but buried in the cemetery plot is a woman with the same last name who is NOT my great-grandmother. This woman does have a husband with that name according to census records, city directories, etc. Anyway, I am searching for Herman Lissauer aka Lesser and Sarah Bogar Lissauer from Hungary who at the time my grandfather was born were living in Rawa Ruska, Galicia. My grandfather, Moritz, was probably born in the 1860's. The name was changed in the U. S. to Lesser not in Hungary. My grandfather had between 12 and 17 sons from at least 2 wives, Mary Braun and Fannie Jonap. Fannie Jonap was my grandmother. They appear to have been cousins as both their mothers were Bogars. If anyone has heard of these people, please let me know, and if you can point me anywhere, please let me know. Florence Marmor fmarmor@dorsai.org edge of Brooklyn, N.Y Researching: Lissauer, Jonap, Bogar from Hunfalu (Huncovce, Slovakia), Szuha Kallo, Szin and Peder, Hungary (now Slovakia), etc. Lissauer from Rawa Ruska, Galicia now Ukraine Jonap from Felso Vadasz, Hungary Bogar from Janik, (Janok, Hungary), Slovakia Ringelheim, Weisenfeld, Scherz, Gross from Manasterz and Tarnowka, Galicia (now Poland) Krauthamer, Spanier from Kolomeya, Ukraine All the above SURNAMES plus Lesser from U. S. See our web page on Mokom Sholom Cemetery, Ozone Park, N.Y. at http://www.jewishinterest.com
This is a test of the Rootsweb lists I am on. It is also some information for the list administrator if they feel the list is not running as expected. And finally it is an attempt to get something posted to the list so Rootsweb does not turn the list off. The list admin should probably go to this page: http://home.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ and try to set up a new mailman login, if not already done. If you do that you will probably get to this page eventually: https://mailinglists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/lists/setupmail Then you might want to sign up for this list: https://mailinglists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/listindexes/search/Listowners But be warned, you will receive postings from that list almost every day. May 8 a day at times. Another option that I do not encourage is to turn the list over to me - at least temporarily. Again, I do not want that done if you are willing to keep the list. Mike Flannigan
This is a long shot, but I'm trying to reach Janice D. Adams, who started a thread in Nov. 2000 concerning a friend's mother who went missing in 1936. Tried e-mailing her directly, but the mail bounced. (No surprise, given the amount of time that's passed.) http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES/2000-11/0974597829 Anyway, if she's still around or anyone might have more up to date contact info, please l me know. I may have a lead for her... Nathan
I initially last-posted to: http://newsarch.rootsweb.com/th/read/GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES/2013-09/1379221939 It has been two years since I posted as seguinvegan@yahoo.com, that I made a rush to judgement that my grandmother was raped by my grandfather, she being Mary Alma Engelke Meyer, buried in the Lone Oak Cemetery near the city of Geronimo, Texas, Guadalupr County and my grandfather being Adolph Heinrich Meyer, father of Adolph Kiefer and Adolph Hitler and buried in the Lone Oak Cemetery, also, that my dad, Bruno William Meyer, is the product. Actually, I should be calling him King Bruno William Meyer for his ancestry. Adolph Hitler was not a Nazi, that he was used to augment WWII, that this event was a tool to steal gold, art, and land from anyone. My dad was a kindly man, patient, and even meek, generally. To say that my dad was the product of rape is not psychologically possible. My grandmother fell in love with my grandfather, the father of her husband, Prince Egon (Bruno Egon Meyer). I have yet to find the probate documents other than that in Guadalupe County, Texas, but I believe that my grandparents went to Louisiana to produce a divorce document and that some documents were made public in Wise County, Texas. There was a fire there, conveniently, and all documents went to the state, this being the Department of Vital Statistics for which chooses to try to make my dad's birth certifcate unavailable.... to date. New information is showing that the divorce and marriage document may be out of state. I believe that incensed Bruno Egon Meyer killed his father, my grandfather, in February of 1935. The manufactured version of my dad's birth certificate reads November 17th, 1936. It is obvious that my grandfather's death certificate has been tampered with and for February 1935. By looking at records received from the funeral home where my grandmother was processed, in San Antonio, and this from her obituary, and because Bruno Egon had to make payments for her burial, it appears as if she went to the Southwest Lunatic Asylum, now San Antonio State Hospital, in February of 1935. This means she would have had to have gotten out within four months from then to have conceived, and this was not the case, that she was committed for ten years to a screaming death. My grandmother's husband put her in the asylum, easy to do to control people, and then assigned himself as my dad's father, his brother in reality, to control my dad's inheritance, because my grandmother was a descendant of King Ferdinand (Engleke), also buried at Lone Oak Cemetery. All of the above are buried in the Lone Oak Cemetery. My dad is Bruno William Meyer Von Engelke seen here: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=53751414 Rape was commonplace in Asylums in the 1940s and in some cases, by design. I believe that I have an additional aunt or uncle, or two, as a result. By: Charlane Meyer, all rights reserved, without prejudice, sui juris.
I'm looking for my second great grandfather who would have used a false name and arrived in America in 1869 or 1870 at age 26. Pehr Wilhelm Lundin, a trained tailor, disappeared in mining town Sala in Västmanland, Sweden, and was supposedly carrying money for the local school where he was working as a teacher. He was believed to have left for America. He can not be under his real name, but it's likely that he traveled alone using a new name. Known identity: Pehr Wilhelm Lundin, b. Kungsholm Stockholm Sweden, May 26 1843. Alternative names: Per Vilhelm Lundin, Petter Wilhelm Lundén. Mother: Catharina Lundin b. 1807. Father: Unknown. Siblings (all dead in 1869): Anna Lisa Mathilda, Karl Magnus, Rosina Mathilda. Wife: Sofia Petronella Ruth b. 1835, married in 1866. Children: Theodor Wilhelm b. 1866, Karl Johan b. 1867. A non drinker and well behaved. Likely quite religious and driven. Timeline: 1851-1855: Foster child to Adolf Fredrik Jonsson and Stina Pettersdotter in Björkåkra Åseda, Kronobergs län (Småland). 1856-1858: Foster child to tailor and soldier Karl Johan Haglund and Anna Stina Adamsdotter in Gölghult Åseda as above Kronobergs län (Småland). 1859: Farmhand for Karl Gustav Abrahamsson in Klo Fagerhult, Kalmar län (Småland). Moves to Gäddeholm Irsta, Västmanlands län, near the city of Västerås, with the family Engzell. 1859-1866: Tailor's apprentice and farmhand in the area. Places lived: Västerås, Onsholmen Irsta, Qvarnvreten Sörby Wester Wåhla/Västervåla, all in Västmanlands län. Employers: Engzell, tailors Lind and Hedström. 1866: Moves to Sala stadsförsamling, Västmanland, as a tailor and gets married. 1869: Missing. Church records and his wife's statement suggest that he disappeared between May 1 1869 and Dec 31 1869, or as late as Nov 13 1870.
I am looking to whatever happened to a Margaret Dell Hughes who was born 1938 in Tazewell (Claiborne County) Tennessee to James Glenn Hughes and Leva Eldridge. Margaret left (actually deserted her husband and two children) October of 1959. Her husband's name is Oscar Kenneth Roberts. She has made no attempt to get in touch with the family since her disappearance. The family has been much time in trying to locate her. Sent from my iPad
You raised a few interesting points about how I should approach this. I already attempt to do some mild research in New Orleans where Fritz's cousins= were before 1867 and I believe with Angelina Dickinson. I do know that Jim Britton was shown as from Tennessee and involved in the Civil War. I did try to get a few authorities involved in the tracing of this and it appears that they are involved in participation other than with any truth that I firmly believe in. I have sent scores of requests in many directions and all negated. I have had a few angels assist me and I am grateful for this extended hand. From what I can see, you are one of few 'open minds'. If, in your experience with genealogy research, that you happen to come across one of these individuals, would you please be so kind as to connect us that I might be able to get just a little more educated? Your advisory is greatly welcomed. By: Charlane Meyer, All Rights Reserved and without prejudice, sui juris, void of fealty
Have you tried this? it popped up on my facebook page this morning http://dna.ancestry.com/?o_xid=56864&o_lid=56864&o_sch=External+Paid+Media -----Original Message----- From: C., All Rights Reserved and without prejudice, sui juris, void of fealty, sui juris, void of fealty <seguinvegan@yahoo.com> To: gen-unsolved-mysteries <gen-unsolved-mysteries@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Sep 29, 2013 8:10 pm Subject: Re: [GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES] Troll Gang Up Then can you recommend what DNA test to take? As I said I tried FamilyTreeDNA and it seems to be normal that my trust transfers pay for a nice evening or a new sofa, for someone, and I receive no results. By: Charlane Meyer, All Rights Reserved and without prejudice, sui juris, void of fealty -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 9/29/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES] Troll Gang Up To: gen-unsolved-mysteries@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, September 29, 2013, 5:05 PM Cindy is correct - this list is to ask for help, and you haven't done that. I don't mean to insult you, but maybe you don't realize that your posts are very hard to follow for people who are not immersed in the history and culture of that area, and after reading several of them, they are starting to sound like rants, rather than genealogy research problems. If what you are saying is all true, the paper records that we normally use for proof and evidence either don't exist or have been altered. I suggest again that you start a DNA study. Gather up all the people you can find in the various families that descend from Fritz, from Adolf, and from people who say they descend from General Mier y Teran. I believe this is the only way you can show a connection now if as you say, the records were destroyed, people's names were changed, etc. Another thing you might want to do is see if you can find a researcher who studies this period of time, and this area. You might be able to find a scholarly person who is not connected to the "cover-up" as you see it. Lisa On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 6:37 PM, C., All Rights Reserved and without prejudice, sui juris, void of fealty <seguinvegan@yahoo.com> wrote: > Sent to Rootsweb: > > I am experiencing troll activity on the rootsweb unsolved mysteries > september forum and by one eddyflick@comcast.net. There is one other > poster that remains to be seen if will continue to trash me. There is no > other activity on this forum and I am believing that everyone got tired of > being blocked from finding their ancestry or be subject to the above. This > is targeting. > > By: Charlane Meyer, > All Rights Reserved and without prejudice, sui juris, void of fealty > > -------------------------------------------- > On Sun, 9/29/13, eddyflick@comcast.net <eddyflick@comcast.net> wrote: > > Subject: Re: [GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES] General Mier y Teran is Emperor > Iturbide - Progenitor of the French Bourbon and Mayan Royal Dynasties > To: gen-unsolved-mysteries@rootsweb.com > Date: Sunday, September 29, 2013, 2:50 PM > > I work in a mental hospital and this > is familiar territory! > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: jrb6886@aol.com > To: gen-unsolved-mysteries@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 4:37:53 PM > Subject: Re: [GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES] General Mier y Teran > is Emperor Iturbide - Progenitor of the French Bourbon and > Mayan Royal Dynasties > > After having read your postings, I would have to say that > you have very little chance at winning your case. My > family was born in this country and hunted buffalo long > before your Spanish People came over. And as Adam was my > direct grandfather, I claim my right to the whole world. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: C., All Rights Reserved and without prejudice, sui > juris, void of fealty, > sui juris, void of fealty <seguinvegan@yahoo.com> > > To: gen-unsolved-mysteries <gen-unsolved-mysteries@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sun, Sep 29, 2013 9:48 am > Subject: [GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES] General Mier y Teran is > Emperor Iturbide - Progenitor of the French Bourbon and > Mayan Royal Dynasties > > > Summarized. Emperor Agustin de Iturbide did not die in 1824. > He became General > Manuel Mier y Teran. General Mier did not die in 1832, by > suicide, as well. His > attempted assassin did instead. General Mier's child did not > die at the age of 2 > and both were persecuted for being the heirs to not only the > Kingdom of the > French Bourbon, but also of the Mayan Indian royal empire > for which was the > possessor ot the lands of North and South America before any > European invasion. > > General Mier was present at the siege of the Alamo in what > is now known as the > City of San Antonio in the County of Bexar jn the State of > Texas in 1836. The > Mayan empire center was in Piedras Negras in what is now > known as Mexico. He and > his wife Maria are in graves that their monuments/markers > have been removed in > the Kingsbury Cemetery in the County of Guadalupe in the > State of Texas and that > he was a Woodmen of the World. Her grave is lot 10 known as > Grandma Meier and > his is under the largest oak tree with an out-of-place > boulder, yet there are > two lots marked 17 for Meyer. > > General Mier y Teran later became Johann Heinrich Meier. His > son was the "Babe > of the Alamo". His son was Juan Mier, later known as Johann > Friederich Meier > (Fritz Meyer) born 1833 and is buried in the Lone Oak > Cemetery in the County of > Guadalupe in the State of Texas. Fritz was raised by Susanna > Dickinson with her > daughter Angelina, and namesake of Angelina County courtesy > of Fritz's position > as deputy clerk in the County of Nacogdoches in the State of > Texas. Later Fritz > and Angelina united as a couple, that he assumed the alias > Jim Britton, and bear > the child Adolph Heinrich Meyer. > > Fritz is the reason for the Frieden's Church that is in > existence across from > Lone Oak Cemetery. Fritz was my great grandfather. My name > is Charlane Meyer. My > Meyer family are descendants of Charlemagne, also known as > Carolus Magnus, > Charle Le Magne and King Charles I. I am his descendant by > all four of the > ancestral names of my grandparents of Meyer, Engelke, Dotti > and Losi that these > ancestral lines of succession are all uniformly descendants > of Charlemagne / > King Charles I. I am claiming my rightful heritage and > inheritance that my > treasury trust, contrived and obstructed by many in fraud, > is the basis for the > bankruptcy of the corporation known as the UNITED STATES OF > AMERICA, INC. > > By: Charlane Meyer, > All Rights Reserved and without prejudice, sui juris, void > of fealty > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of > the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I understand you think that Jim Britton & Fritz were the same person, but in order to validate your claim, you need proof that others will accept. If there are people out there claiming to be a relative of Jim Britton [as they know him] you should seek them out. If you already have documented proof that Jim & Fritz were the same, then go to the previous generation, and look for some relations there - cousins, brothers, sisters, and their descendants. You have to realize that because your theory is so far removed from the "accepted story" you will need much evidence to prove it. I also think you should look for scholarly researchers, historians, etc., who have an open mind, or who may have already published something that is somewhat outside the mainstream view of these events. Good luck, Lisa On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 1:01 AM, C., All Rights Reserved and without prejudice, sui juris, void of fealty <seguinvegan@yahoo.com> wrote: > I appreciate your response. I > am not looking for any matches to Jim Britton, only Fritz > Meyer. Jim Britton was only a temporary alias used and > I am sure that this trail will go in a tangent > direction. Fritz is buried in the family plot next to > my dad. It is the connection to his father that is > where I am at. > > Thank you for the links. I will start exploring. > Your time was appreciated as well. > > By: Charlane Meyer, > All Rights Reserved and without prejudice, sui juris, void > of fealty > > -------------------------------------------- > On Sun, 9/29/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Subject: Re: [GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES] Troll Gang Up > To: gen-unsolved-mysteries@rootsweb.com > Date: Sunday, September 29, 2013, 7:02 PM > > I only have a general knowledge of > DNA, so I can't suggest a company. How > long ago did you do your test at Family Tree DNA? I'm > not clear on what > you are saying about them. Was the test > conducted? Did you receive your > results? If so, and the results are known, but you > haven't gotten any > contacts, I would just chalk this up to no matches with > the > other testers > yet. > > In your situation, it would seem you would want to find as > many descendants > of the previously named people whether you think they are > truly related or > not, and have the same test done for all of you. The > most important thing > this test can do for you is to tell you if you not > connected > to any of the > other descendants of these families. If it were me, I > would be looking for > people who say they are related to Jim Britton. If he > really was Fritz > Meyer then your DNA will match them. If there is no > match, then your > theory has some holes, and you need to find more people to > test. > > There are mailing lists like this one for DNA where > someone > would be more > qualified to answer your questions about what DNA can an > can't do, and > which tests you should take. > > Some are listed here > http://www.cyndislist.com/dna/mailing-lists/?page=1 > > The DNA lists at rootsweb.com are here > > http://bigfile.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/listsearch?contents=dna&op=Find&start=1 > > most of these are surname groups, so you'll have to look > through all of > them to find the general information lists. > > There are also many pages at facebook. This is the > result page for a > search of DNA genealogy > > https://www.facebook.com/search/more/?q=dna%20genealogy&sid=0.5925652483138968 > > Even if you don't use facebook, if there are any pages > that > look > interesting, check them out because some pages on facebook > are public. > > I think this page has a good overview of DNA for > genealogy. It covers what > kind of results you can expect, as well as how to choose a > company. It has > a whole page of sources at the end for more reading. > > Good luck with your search, > Lisa > > > > > On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 8:10 PM, C., All Rights Reserved > and > without > prejudice, sui juris, void of fealty <seguinvegan@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > Then can you recommend what DNA test to take? As > I said I tried > > FamilyTreeDNA and it seems to be normal that my trust > transfers pay for a > > nice evening or a new sofa, for someone, and I > receive > no results. > > > > By: Charlane Meyer, > > All Rights Reserved and without prejudice, sui juris, > void of fealty > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > On Sun, 9/29/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Subject: Re: [GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES] Troll Gang > Up > > To: gen-unsolved-mysteries@rootsweb.com > > Date: Sunday, September 29, 2013, 5:05 PM > > > > Cindy is correct - this list is to > > ask for help, and you haven't done > > that. I don't mean to insult you, but maybe > you don't > > realize that your > > posts are very hard to follow for people who are > not > > immersed in the > > history and culture of that area, and after > reading several > > of them, they > > are starting to sound like rants, rather than > genealogy > > research problems. > > > > If what you are saying is all true, the paper > records that > > we normally use > > for proof and evidence either don't exist or have > been > > altered. > > > > I suggest again that you start a DNA study. > Gather up > > all the people you > > can find in the various families that descend > from Fritz, > > from Adolf, and > > from people who say they descend from General > Mier y > > Teran. I believe this > > is the only way you can show a connection now if > as you say, > > the records > > were destroyed, people's names were changed, > etc. > > > > Another thing you might want to do is see if you > can find a > > researcher who > > studies this period of time, and this area. > You might > > be able to find a > > scholarly person who is not connected to the > "cover-up" as > > you see it. > > > > Lisa > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 6:37 PM, C., All Rights > Reserved and > > without > > prejudice, sui juris, void of fealty <seguinvegan@yahoo.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Sent to Rootsweb: > > > > > > I am experiencing troll activity on the > rootsweb > > unsolved mysteries > > > september forum and by one eddyflick@comcast.net. > > There is one other > > > poster that remains to be seen if will > continue to > > trash me. There is no > > > other activity on this forum and I am > believing that > > everyone got tired of > > > being blocked from finding their ancestry or > be subject > > to the above. This > > > is targeting. > > > > > > By: Charlane Meyer, > > > All Rights Reserved and without prejudice, > sui juris, > > void of fealty > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > > On Sun, 9/29/13, eddyflick@comcast.net > > <eddyflick@comcast.net> > > wrote: > > > > > > Subject: Re: [GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES] > General > > Mier y Teran is Emperor > > > Iturbide - Progenitor of the French Bourbon > and Mayan > > Royal Dynasties > > > To: gen-unsolved-mysteries@rootsweb.com > > > Date: Sunday, September 29, 2013, 2:50 > PM > > > > > > I work in a mental hospital and this > > > is familiar territory! > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: jrb6886@aol.com > > > To: gen-unsolved-mysteries@rootsweb.com > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 > 4:37:53 PM > > > Subject: Re: [GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES] > General > > Mier y Teran > > > is Emperor Iturbide - Progenitor of > the French > > Bourbon and > > > Mayan Royal Dynasties > > > > > > After having read your postings, I > would have to > > say that > > > you have very little chance at winning > your > > case. My > > > family was born in this country and > hunted > > buffalo long > > > before your Spanish People came > over. And > > as Adam was my > > > direct grandfather, I claim my right > to the whole > > world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: C., All Rights Reserved and > without > > prejudice, sui > > > juris, void of fealty, > > > sui juris, void of fealty > <seguinvegan@yahoo.com> > > > > > > To: gen-unsolved-mysteries <gen-unsolved-mysteries@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > Sent: Sun, Sep 29, 2013 9:48 am > > > Subject: [GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES] > General Mier y > > Teran is > > > Emperor Iturbide - Progenitor of the > French > > Bourbon and > > > Mayan Royal Dynasties > > > > > > > > > Summarized. Emperor Agustin de > Iturbide did not > > die in 1824. > > > He became General > > > Manuel Mier y Teran. General Mier did > not die in > > 1832, by > > > suicide, as well. His > > > attempted assassin did instead. > General Mier's > > child did not > > > die at the age of 2 > > > and both were persecuted for being the > heirs to > > not only the > > > Kingdom of the > > > French Bourbon, but also of the Mayan > Indian > > royal empire > > > for which was the > > > possessor ot the lands of North and > South America > > before any > > > European invasion. > > > > > > General Mier was present at the siege > of the > > Alamo in what > > > is now known as the > > > City of San Antonio in the County of > Bexar jn the > > State of > > > Texas in 1836. The > > > Mayan empire center was in Piedras > Negras in what > > is now > > > known as Mexico. He and > > > his wife Maria are in graves that > their > > monuments/markers > > > have been removed in > > > the Kingsbury Cemetery in the County > of Guadalupe > > in the > > > State of Texas and that > > > he was a Woodmen of the World. Her > grave is lot > > 10 known as > > > Grandma Meier and > > > his is under the largest oak tree with > an > > out-of-place > > > boulder, yet there are > > > two lots marked 17 for Meyer. > > > > > > General Mier y Teran later became > Johann Heinrich > > Meier. His > > > son was the "Babe > > > of the Alamo". His son was Juan Mier, > later known > > as Johann > > > Friederich Meier > > > (Fritz Meyer) born 1833 and is buried > in the Lone > > Oak > > > Cemetery in the County of > > > Guadalupe in the State of Texas. Fritz > was raised > > by Susanna > > > Dickinson with her > > > daughter Angelina, and namesake of > Angelina > > County courtesy > > > of Fritz's position > > > as deputy clerk in the County of > Nacogdoches in > > the State of > > > Texas. Later Fritz > > > and Angelina united as a couple, that > he assumed > > the alias > > > Jim Britton, and bear > > > the child Adolph Heinrich Meyer. > > > > > > Fritz is the reason for the Frieden's > Church that > > is in > > > existence across from > > > Lone Oak Cemetery. Fritz was my great > > grandfather. My name > > > is Charlane Meyer. My > > > Meyer family are descendants of > Charlemagne, also > > known as > > > Carolus Magnus, > > > Charle Le Magne and King Charles I. I > am his > > descendant by > > > all four of the > > > ancestral names of my grandparents of > Meyer, > > Engelke, Dotti > > > and Losi that these > > > ancestral lines of succession are all > uniformly > > descendants > > > of Charlemagne / > > > King Charles I. I am claiming my > rightful > > heritage and > > > inheritance that my > > > treasury trust, contrived and > obstructed by many > > in fraud, > > > is the basis for the > > > bankruptcy of the corporation known as > the UNITED > > STATES OF > > > AMERICA, INC. > > > > > > By: Charlane Meyer, > > > All Rights Reserved and without > prejudice, sui > > juris, void > > > of fealty > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please > send an > > email to > > > GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in > > the > > > subject and the body of > > > the message > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please > send an > > email to > > > GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-request@rootsweb.com > > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in > > the > > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please > send an > > email to > > > GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-request@rootsweb.com > > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in > > the > > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > > > GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the > > message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > > GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
yes and you need to be here too. ----- Original Message ----- From: "C., All Rights Reserved and without prejudice, sui juris, void of fealty" <seguinvegan@yahoo.com> To: gen-unsolved-mysteries@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 6:27:49 PM Subject: Re: [GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES] General Mier y Teran is Emperor Iturbide - Progenitor of the French Bourbon and Mayan Royal Dynasties The trolls are circling wagons again. You do not even seem to exist and appear to be on the clock on your other job. Working at a mental hospital requires a certain immunity. By: Charlane Meyer, All Rights Reserved and without prejudice, sui juris, void of fealty -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 9/29/13, eddyflick@comcast.net <eddyflick@comcast.net> wrote: Subject: Re: [GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES] General Mier y Teran is Emperor Iturbide - Progenitor of the French Bourbon and Mayan Royal Dynasties To: gen-unsolved-mysteries@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, September 29, 2013, 2:50 PM I work in a mental hospital and this is familiar territory! ----- Original Message ----- From: jrb6886@aol.com To: gen-unsolved-mysteries@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 4:37:53 PM Subject: Re: [GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES] General Mier y Teran is Emperor Iturbide - Progenitor of the French Bourbon and Mayan Royal Dynasties After having read your postings, I would have to say that you have very little chance at winning your case. My family was born in this country and hunted buffalo long before your Spanish People came over. And as Adam was my direct grandfather, I claim my right to the whole world. -----Original Message----- From: C., All Rights Reserved and without prejudice, sui juris, void of fealty, sui juris, void of fealty <seguinvegan@yahoo.com> To: gen-unsolved-mysteries <gen-unsolved-mysteries@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Sep 29, 2013 9:48 am Subject: [GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES] General Mier y Teran is Emperor Iturbide - Progenitor of the French Bourbon and Mayan Royal Dynasties Summarized. Emperor Agustin de Iturbide did not die in 1824. He became General Manuel Mier y Teran. General Mier did not die in 1832, by suicide, as well. His attempted assassin did instead. General Mier's child did not die at the age of 2 and both were persecuted for being the heirs to not only the Kingdom of the French Bourbon, but also of the Mayan Indian royal empire for which was the possessor ot the lands of North and South America before any European invasion. General Mier was present at the siege of the Alamo in what is now known as the City of San Antonio in the County of Bexar jn the State of Texas in 1836. The Mayan empire center was in Piedras Negras in what is now known as Mexico. He and his wife Maria are in graves that their monuments/markers have been removed in the Kingsbury Cemetery in the County of Guadalupe in the State of Texas and that he was a Woodmen of the World. Her grave is lot 10 known as Grandma Meier and his is under the largest oak tree with an out-of-place boulder, yet there are two lots marked 17 for Meyer. General Mier y Teran later became Johann Heinrich Meier. His son was the "Babe of the Alamo". His son was Juan Mier, later known as Johann Friederich Meier (Fritz Meyer) born 1833 and is buried in the Lone Oak Cemetery in the County of Guadalupe in the State of Texas. Fritz was raised by Susanna Dickinson with her daughter Angelina, and namesake of Angelina County courtesy of Fritz's position as deputy clerk in the County of Nacogdoches in the State of Texas. Later Fritz and Angelina united as a couple, that he assumed the alias Jim Britton, and bear the child Adolph Heinrich Meyer. Fritz is the reason for the Frieden's Church that is in existence across from Lone Oak Cemetery. Fritz was my great grandfather. My name is Charlane Meyer. My Meyer family are descendants of Charlemagne, also known as Carolus Magnus, Charle Le Magne and King Charles I. I am his descendant by all four of the ancestral names of my grandparents of Meyer, Engelke, Dotti and Losi that these ancestral lines of succession are all uniformly descendants of Charlemagne / King Charles I. I am claiming my rightful heritage and inheritance that my treasury trust, contrived and obstructed by many in fraud, is the basis for the bankruptcy of the corporation known as the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, INC. By: Charlane Meyer, All Rights Reserved and without prejudice, sui juris, void of fealty ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I only have a general knowledge of DNA, so I can't suggest a company. How long ago did you do your test at Family Tree DNA? I'm not clear on what you are saying about them. Was the test conducted? Did you receive your results? If so, and the results are known, but you haven't gotten any contacts, I would just chalk this up to no matches with the other testers yet. In your situation, it would seem you would want to find as many descendants of the previously named people whether you think they are truly related or not, and have the same test done for all of you. The most important thing this test can do for you is to tell you if you not connected to any of the other descendants of these families. If it were me, I would be looking for people who say they are related to Jim Britton. If he really was Fritz Meyer then your DNA will match them. If there is no match, then your theory has some holes, and you need to find more people to test. There are mailing lists like this one for DNA where someone would be more qualified to answer your questions about what DNA can an can't do, and which tests you should take. Some are listed here http://www.cyndislist.com/dna/mailing-lists/?page=1 The DNA lists at rootsweb.com are here http://bigfile.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/listsearch?contents=dna&op=Find&start=1 most of these are surname groups, so you'll have to look through all of them to find the general information lists. There are also many pages at facebook. This is the result page for a search of DNA genealogy https://www.facebook.com/search/more/?q=dna%20genealogy&sid=0.5925652483138968 Even if you don't use facebook, if there are any pages that look interesting, check them out because some pages on facebook are public. I think this page has a good overview of DNA for genealogy. It covers what kind of results you can expect, as well as how to choose a company. It has a whole page of sources at the end for more reading. Good luck with your search, Lisa On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 8:10 PM, C., All Rights Reserved and without prejudice, sui juris, void of fealty <seguinvegan@yahoo.com> wrote: > Then can you recommend what DNA test to take? As I said I tried > FamilyTreeDNA and it seems to be normal that my trust transfers pay for a > nice evening or a new sofa, for someone, and I receive no results. > > By: Charlane Meyer, > All Rights Reserved and without prejudice, sui juris, void of fealty > > -------------------------------------------- > On Sun, 9/29/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@gmail.com> wrote: > > Subject: Re: [GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES] Troll Gang Up > To: gen-unsolved-mysteries@rootsweb.com > Date: Sunday, September 29, 2013, 5:05 PM > > Cindy is correct - this list is to > ask for help, and you haven't done > that. I don't mean to insult you, but maybe you don't > realize that your > posts are very hard to follow for people who are not > immersed in the > history and culture of that area, and after reading several > of them, they > are starting to sound like rants, rather than genealogy > research problems. > > If what you are saying is all true, the paper records that > we normally use > for proof and evidence either don't exist or have been > altered. > > I suggest again that you start a DNA study. Gather up > all the people you > can find in the various families that descend from Fritz, > from Adolf, and > from people who say they descend from General Mier y > Teran. I believe this > is the only way you can show a connection now if as you say, > the records > were destroyed, people's names were changed, etc. > > Another thing you might want to do is see if you can find a > researcher who > studies this period of time, and this area. You might > be able to find a > scholarly person who is not connected to the "cover-up" as > you see it. > > Lisa > > > > On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 6:37 PM, C., All Rights Reserved and > without > prejudice, sui juris, void of fealty <seguinvegan@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > Sent to Rootsweb: > > > > I am experiencing troll activity on the rootsweb > unsolved mysteries > > september forum and by one eddyflick@comcast.net. > There is one other > > poster that remains to be seen if will continue to > trash me. There is no > > other activity on this forum and I am believing that > everyone got tired of > > being blocked from finding their ancestry or be subject > to the above. This > > is targeting. > > > > By: Charlane Meyer, > > All Rights Reserved and without prejudice, sui juris, > void of fealty > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > On Sun, 9/29/13, eddyflick@comcast.net > <eddyflick@comcast.net> > wrote: > > > > Subject: Re: [GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES] General > Mier y Teran is Emperor > > Iturbide - Progenitor of the French Bourbon and Mayan > Royal Dynasties > > To: gen-unsolved-mysteries@rootsweb.com > > Date: Sunday, September 29, 2013, 2:50 PM > > > > I work in a mental hospital and this > > is familiar territory! > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: jrb6886@aol.com > > To: gen-unsolved-mysteries@rootsweb.com > > > > Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 4:37:53 PM > > Subject: Re: [GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES] General > Mier y Teran > > is Emperor Iturbide - Progenitor of the French > Bourbon and > > Mayan Royal Dynasties > > > > After having read your postings, I would have to > say that > > you have very little chance at winning your > case. My > > family was born in this country and hunted > buffalo long > > before your Spanish People came over. And > as Adam was my > > direct grandfather, I claim my right to the whole > world. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: C., All Rights Reserved and without > prejudice, sui > > juris, void of fealty, > > sui juris, void of fealty <seguinvegan@yahoo.com> > > > > To: gen-unsolved-mysteries <gen-unsolved-mysteries@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Sun, Sep 29, 2013 9:48 am > > Subject: [GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES] General Mier y > Teran is > > Emperor Iturbide - Progenitor of the French > Bourbon and > > Mayan Royal Dynasties > > > > > > Summarized. Emperor Agustin de Iturbide did not > die in 1824. > > He became General > > Manuel Mier y Teran. General Mier did not die in > 1832, by > > suicide, as well. His > > attempted assassin did instead. General Mier's > child did not > > die at the age of 2 > > and both were persecuted for being the heirs to > not only the > > Kingdom of the > > French Bourbon, but also of the Mayan Indian > royal empire > > for which was the > > possessor ot the lands of North and South America > before any > > European invasion. > > > > General Mier was present at the siege of the > Alamo in what > > is now known as the > > City of San Antonio in the County of Bexar jn the > State of > > Texas in 1836. The > > Mayan empire center was in Piedras Negras in what > is now > > known as Mexico. He and > > his wife Maria are in graves that their > monuments/markers > > have been removed in > > the Kingsbury Cemetery in the County of Guadalupe > in the > > State of Texas and that > > he was a Woodmen of the World. Her grave is lot > 10 known as > > Grandma Meier and > > his is under the largest oak tree with an > out-of-place > > boulder, yet there are > > two lots marked 17 for Meyer. > > > > General Mier y Teran later became Johann Heinrich > Meier. His > > son was the "Babe > > of the Alamo". His son was Juan Mier, later known > as Johann > > Friederich Meier > > (Fritz Meyer) born 1833 and is buried in the Lone > Oak > > Cemetery in the County of > > Guadalupe in the State of Texas. Fritz was raised > by Susanna > > Dickinson with her > > daughter Angelina, and namesake of Angelina > County courtesy > > of Fritz's position > > as deputy clerk in the County of Nacogdoches in > the State of > > Texas. Later Fritz > > and Angelina united as a couple, that he assumed > the alias > > Jim Britton, and bear > > the child Adolph Heinrich Meyer. > > > > Fritz is the reason for the Frieden's Church that > is in > > existence across from > > Lone Oak Cemetery. Fritz was my great > grandfather. My name > > is Charlane Meyer. My > > Meyer family are descendants of Charlemagne, also > known as > > Carolus Magnus, > > Charle Le Magne and King Charles I. I am his > descendant by > > all four of the > > ancestral names of my grandparents of Meyer, > Engelke, Dotti > > and Losi that these > > ancestral lines of succession are all uniformly > descendants > > of Charlemagne / > > King Charles I. I am claiming my rightful > heritage and > > inheritance that my > > treasury trust, contrived and obstructed by many > in fraud, > > is the basis for the > > bankruptcy of the corporation known as the UNITED > STATES OF > > AMERICA, INC. > > > > By: Charlane Meyer, > > All Rights Reserved and without prejudice, sui > juris, void > > of fealty > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > > GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-request@rootsweb.com > > > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the > > subject and the body of > > the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > > GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > > GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
I appreciate your response. I am not looking for any matches to Jim Britton, only Fritz Meyer. Jim Britton was only a temporary alias used and I am sure that this trail will go in a tangent direction. Fritz is buried in the family plot next to my dad. It is the connection to his father that is where I am at. Thank you for the links. I will start exploring. Your time was appreciated as well. By: Charlane Meyer, All Rights Reserved and without prejudice, sui juris, void of fealty -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 9/29/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES] Troll Gang Up To: gen-unsolved-mysteries@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, September 29, 2013, 7:02 PM I only have a general knowledge of DNA, so I can't suggest a company. How long ago did you do your test at Family Tree DNA? I'm not clear on what you are saying about them. Was the test conducted? Did you receive your results? If so, and the results are known, but you haven't gotten any contacts, I would just chalk this up to no matches with the other testers yet. In your situation, it would seem you would want to find as many descendants of the previously named people whether you think they are truly related or not, and have the same test done for all of you. The most important thing this test can do for you is to tell you if you not connected to any of the other descendants of these families. If it were me, I would be looking for people who say they are related to Jim Britton. If he really was Fritz Meyer then your DNA will match them. If there is no match, then your theory has some holes, and you need to find more people to test. There are mailing lists like this one for DNA where someone would be more qualified to answer your questions about what DNA can an can't do, and which tests you should take. Some are listed here http://www.cyndislist.com/dna/mailing-lists/?page=1 The DNA lists at rootsweb.com are here http://bigfile.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/listsearch?contents=dna&op=Find&start=1 most of these are surname groups, so you'll have to look through all of them to find the general information lists. There are also many pages at facebook. This is the result page for a search of DNA genealogy https://www.facebook.com/search/more/?q=dna%20genealogy&sid=0.5925652483138968 Even if you don't use facebook, if there are any pages that look interesting, check them out because some pages on facebook are public. I think this page has a good overview of DNA for genealogy. It covers what kind of results you can expect, as well as how to choose a company. It has a whole page of sources at the end for more reading. Good luck with your search, Lisa On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 8:10 PM, C., All Rights Reserved and without prejudice, sui juris, void of fealty <seguinvegan@yahoo.com> wrote: > Then can you recommend what DNA test to take? As I said I tried > FamilyTreeDNA and it seems to be normal that my trust transfers pay for a > nice evening or a new sofa, for someone, and I receive no results. > > By: Charlane Meyer, > All Rights Reserved and without prejudice, sui juris, void of fealty > > -------------------------------------------- > On Sun, 9/29/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@gmail.com> wrote: > > Subject: Re: [GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES] Troll Gang Up > To: gen-unsolved-mysteries@rootsweb.com > Date: Sunday, September 29, 2013, 5:05 PM > > Cindy is correct - this list is to > ask for help, and you haven't done > that. I don't mean to insult you, but maybe you don't > realize that your > posts are very hard to follow for people who are not > immersed in the > history and culture of that area, and after reading several > of them, they > are starting to sound like rants, rather than genealogy > research problems. > > If what you are saying is all true, the paper records that > we normally use > for proof and evidence either don't exist or have been > altered. > > I suggest again that you start a DNA study. Gather up > all the people you > can find in the various families that descend from Fritz, > from Adolf, and > from people who say they descend from General Mier y > Teran. I believe this > is the only way you can show a connection now if as you say, > the records > were destroyed, people's names were changed, etc. > > Another thing you might want to do is see if you can find a > researcher who > studies this period of time, and this area. You might > be able to find a > scholarly person who is not connected to the "cover-up" as > you see it. > > Lisa > > > > On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 6:37 PM, C., All Rights Reserved and > without > prejudice, sui juris, void of fealty <seguinvegan@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > Sent to Rootsweb: > > > > I am experiencing troll activity on the rootsweb > unsolved mysteries > > september forum and by one eddyflick@comcast.net. > There is one other > > poster that remains to be seen if will continue to > trash me. There is no > > other activity on this forum and I am believing that > everyone got tired of > > being blocked from finding their ancestry or be subject > to the above. This > > is targeting. > > > > By: Charlane Meyer, > > All Rights Reserved and without prejudice, sui juris, > void of fealty > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > On Sun, 9/29/13, eddyflick@comcast.net > <eddyflick@comcast.net> > wrote: > > > > Subject: Re: [GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES] General > Mier y Teran is Emperor > > Iturbide - Progenitor of the French Bourbon and Mayan > Royal Dynasties > > To: gen-unsolved-mysteries@rootsweb.com > > Date: Sunday, September 29, 2013, 2:50 PM > > > > I work in a mental hospital and this > > is familiar territory! > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: jrb6886@aol.com > > To: gen-unsolved-mysteries@rootsweb.com > > > > Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 4:37:53 PM > > Subject: Re: [GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES] General > Mier y Teran > > is Emperor Iturbide - Progenitor of the French > Bourbon and > > Mayan Royal Dynasties > > > > After having read your postings, I would have to > say that > > you have very little chance at winning your > case. My > > family was born in this country and hunted > buffalo long > > before your Spanish People came over. And > as Adam was my > > direct grandfather, I claim my right to the whole > world. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: C., All Rights Reserved and without > prejudice, sui > > juris, void of fealty, > > sui juris, void of fealty <seguinvegan@yahoo.com> > > > > To: gen-unsolved-mysteries <gen-unsolved-mysteries@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Sun, Sep 29, 2013 9:48 am > > Subject: [GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES] General Mier y > Teran is > > Emperor Iturbide - Progenitor of the French > Bourbon and > > Mayan Royal Dynasties > > > > > > Summarized. Emperor Agustin de Iturbide did not > die in 1824. > > He became General > > Manuel Mier y Teran. General Mier did not die in > 1832, by > > suicide, as well. His > > attempted assassin did instead. General Mier's > child did not > > die at the age of 2 > > and both were persecuted for being the heirs to > not only the > > Kingdom of the > > French Bourbon, but also of the Mayan Indian > royal empire > > for which was the > > possessor ot the lands of North and South America > before any > > European invasion. > > > > General Mier was present at the siege of the > Alamo in what > > is now known as the > > City of San Antonio in the County of Bexar jn the > State of > > Texas in 1836. The > > Mayan empire center was in Piedras Negras in what > is now > > known as Mexico. He and > > his wife Maria are in graves that their > monuments/markers > > have been removed in > > the Kingsbury Cemetery in the County of Guadalupe > in the > > State of Texas and that > > he was a Woodmen of the World. Her grave is lot > 10 known as > > Grandma Meier and > > his is under the largest oak tree with an > out-of-place > > boulder, yet there are > > two lots marked 17 for Meyer. > > > > General Mier y Teran later became Johann Heinrich > Meier. His > > son was the "Babe > > of the Alamo". His son was Juan Mier, later known > as Johann > > Friederich Meier > > (Fritz Meyer) born 1833 and is buried in the Lone > Oak > > Cemetery in the County of > > Guadalupe in the State of Texas. Fritz was raised > by Susanna > > Dickinson with her > > daughter Angelina, and namesake of Angelina > County courtesy > > of Fritz's position > > as deputy clerk in the County of Nacogdoches in > the State of > > Texas. Later Fritz > > and Angelina united as a couple, that he assumed > the alias > > Jim Britton, and bear > > the child Adolph Heinrich Meyer. > > > > Fritz is the reason for the Frieden's Church that > is in > > existence across from > > Lone Oak Cemetery. Fritz was my great > grandfather. My name > > is Charlane Meyer. My > > Meyer family are descendants of Charlemagne, also > known as > > Carolus Magnus, > > Charle Le Magne and King Charles I. I am his > descendant by > > all four of the > > ancestral names of my grandparents of Meyer, > Engelke, Dotti > > and Losi that these > > ancestral lines of succession are all uniformly > descendants > > of Charlemagne / > > King Charles I. I am claiming my rightful > heritage and > > inheritance that my > > treasury trust, contrived and obstructed by many > in fraud, > > is the basis for the > > bankruptcy of the corporation known as the UNITED > STATES OF > > AMERICA, INC. > > > > By: Charlane Meyer, > > All Rights Reserved and without prejudice, sui > juris, void > > of fealty > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > > GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-request@rootsweb.com > > > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the > > subject and the body of > > the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > > GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > > GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I work in a mental hospital and this is familiar territory! ----- Original Message ----- From: jrb6886@aol.com To: gen-unsolved-mysteries@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 4:37:53 PM Subject: Re: [GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES] General Mier y Teran is Emperor Iturbide - Progenitor of the French Bourbon and Mayan Royal Dynasties After having read your postings, I would have to say that you have very little chance at winning your case. My family was born in this country and hunted buffalo long before your Spanish People came over. And as Adam was my direct grandfather, I claim my right to the whole world. -----Original Message----- From: C., All Rights Reserved and without prejudice, sui juris, void of fealty, sui juris, void of fealty <seguinvegan@yahoo.com> To: gen-unsolved-mysteries <gen-unsolved-mysteries@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Sep 29, 2013 9:48 am Subject: [GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES] General Mier y Teran is Emperor Iturbide - Progenitor of the French Bourbon and Mayan Royal Dynasties Summarized. Emperor Agustin de Iturbide did not die in 1824. He became General Manuel Mier y Teran. General Mier did not die in 1832, by suicide, as well. His attempted assassin did instead. General Mier's child did not die at the age of 2 and both were persecuted for being the heirs to not only the Kingdom of the French Bourbon, but also of the Mayan Indian royal empire for which was the possessor ot the lands of North and South America before any European invasion. General Mier was present at the siege of the Alamo in what is now known as the City of San Antonio in the County of Bexar jn the State of Texas in 1836. The Mayan empire center was in Piedras Negras in what is now known as Mexico. He and his wife Maria are in graves that their monuments/markers have been removed in the Kingsbury Cemetery in the County of Guadalupe in the State of Texas and that he was a Woodmen of the World. Her grave is lot 10 known as Grandma Meier and his is under the largest oak tree with an out-of-place boulder, yet there are two lots marked 17 for Meyer. General Mier y Teran later became Johann Heinrich Meier. His son was the "Babe of the Alamo". His son was Juan Mier, later known as Johann Friederich Meier (Fritz Meyer) born 1833 and is buried in the Lone Oak Cemetery in the County of Guadalupe in the State of Texas. Fritz was raised by Susanna Dickinson with her daughter Angelina, and namesake of Angelina County courtesy of Fritz's position as deputy clerk in the County of Nacogdoches in the State of Texas. Later Fritz and Angelina united as a couple, that he assumed the alias Jim Britton, and bear the child Adolph Heinrich Meyer. Fritz is the reason for the Frieden's Church that is in existence across from Lone Oak Cemetery. Fritz was my great grandfather. My name is Charlane Meyer. My Meyer family are descendants of Charlemagne, also known as Carolus Magnus, Charle Le Magne and King Charles I. I am his descendant by all four of the ancestral names of my grandparents of Meyer, Engelke, Dotti and Losi that these ancestral lines of succession are all uniformly descendants of Charlemagne / King Charles I. I am claiming my rightful heritage and inheritance that my treasury trust, contrived and obstructed by many in fraud, is the basis for the bankruptcy of the corporation known as the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, INC. By: Charlane Meyer, All Rights Reserved and without prejudice, sui juris, void of fealty ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message