Miriam Glad the shoes were found and am sure you are happy that you have more freedom now!!! I didn't realise that you were going to Cirencester - we used to live on the outskirts in Startton - 'twas where we lived where Fiona and Paul was born. I think War Memorials are for the men of the town. I wonder why his grave was in Cirencester if he was at Gloucester during the War. Which base was he on? Liz -------Original Message------- From: Miriam B Date: 06/16/06 13:57:43 To: Trivvies Subject: {not a subscriber} I am here really - CWC graves and a Question I've been lurking since Wednesday as it's been hectic being back, if reunions weren't so much fun, it wouldn't be worth the hassle getting on & off island!! THE SHOES WERE FOUND!!!!!!! So that's me out of the dog-house - phew!! The cemetery in Cirencester has absolutely NO signs to it, not even at the end of the road off the piece of dual carriageway. Nor did it have any plan/map. However, as they are so bright white, CWC graves do rather stand out. Over to the nearest corner, not a very big group and Farren wasn't there. Saw a few more - they were the Polish Catholic airmen. Found a dog walker who cheered us up immensely by pointing out that it was a 4-acre plot!! However, she pointed us to another set and lo, there he was. The very bright sun on the very white stone rather means that the photo doesn't show the inscription very well. We also spotted some graves that were dotted amongst the non-CWC but when we looked at those, they were from WWI, so perhaps their stones were put up later wherever the grave already were whilst the WWII must have been deliberately put together. Don't know why there were 2 groups in addition to the Catholic group though - pity we weren't there on a weekday when the office was open, the probably could have told us. Now to the question. The war memorial in the town church didn't include his name. We think that it may have been because he wasn't a Cirencester man, just based at Gloucester with the RAF. Might we expect to find it on the memorial for his home town?? or is that chancy. I know he met his wife in Bristol and hailed from Liverpool although was probably in the Midlands pre-war so might he have been missed or did the authorities get everyone 'assigned' to somewhere? Anyone know how these memorials got their lists? <hugs> Miriam www.pagetdesigns.co.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- All outgoing emails scanned by Norton Antivirus. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ==== GEN-TRIVIA-ENG Mailing List ==== RANDOM TAGLINE - GEN-TRIVIA-ENG - MAILING LIST Please use common sense when sending or replying to messages on the list. What may not offend you may offend others. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/364 - Release Date: 14/06/2006