Welcome Linda Val Have just signed up as a Trivvie and my first time ever on a List. My expierence on a computer being card games, living jigsaws, and other puzzles that I do in my spare time, not much of that though; and the data based computers in the shop where I work. Day off is normally having my 2 young grandchildren. Used to do a lot of cross stitch but now have started making my own cards, and enjoying it very much . Have been told there is a Reunion this week, and details of where it is to be. Is there a meeting place there ? and what time please if someone will be kind enough to let me know, hoping you won't mind my joining in at this late moment. Will write more tomorrow as I had a long shift at work today and another tomorrow, Lin --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos - NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo. ==== GEN-TRIVIA-ENG Mailing List ==== RANDOM TAGLINE - GEN-TRIVIA-ENG - MAILING LIST Remember - this list is only as good as you, the Lister, make it. If you don't post, then it's no fun at all. :-) -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.8.1/354 - Release Date: 1/06/2006

Sounds like a great day Jenny Val xx ----- Original Message ----- From: Jenny Kingsbury To: GEN-TRIVIA-ENG-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 6:01 AM Subject: Re: [TRIVVIES] Anniversary wishes Thanks Dave, Pam and Nicki, for your good wishes. 35 years today. We have had a nice day, David isn't feeling to well at the moment the Doctors have been messing with his tablets and they don't seem to suit him, so he left one off last night on the advice of GP to see if it made a difference. We drove down to Bishop's Lydeard and took the West Somerset steam train down to Minehead. Had lunch and decided to catch the 2.55 panoramic diesel back to Watchet and spend an hour there picking up the steam train again back to BL. But they didn't announce that the diesel was up the far far end of the platform and we were waiting for an announcement and for the train to come in to the platford we had alighted on, when someone said it was going, and we could see it in the distance. About 30 of us missed it. Apparently the driver should have waited to be told to go, but was a bit trigger happy. So the Railway company bought us icecreams or a bottle of water and we went back to the seafront for another hour. Then the Steam 3.50 left late as there was a point failure at Blue Anchor, which they managed to fix quite quickly I thought. Then we were late getting into BL as there were 6 sheep on the line walking in front of the engine. The guards all had to get off and chase them back down the line past the train! Great fun. Even though we missed visiting Watchet we had a lovely day, and could hardly stay awake on the journey back in the train. In fact David dozed off for most of it! Back to work tomorrow. Love Jenny. ----- Original Message ----- From: "david cox" <bigdavecox@ntlworld.com> To: <GEN-TRIVIA-ENG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 8:15 AM Subject: [TRIVVIES] Anniversary wishes > Happy Anniversary to Jenny and David > > love and hugs > Dave, Pam and Nikki > > > ==== GEN-TRIVIA-ENG Mailing List ==== > RANDOM TAGLINE - GEN-TRIVIA-ENG - MAILING LIST > Gen-Trivia-Eng listers remember Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow. > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.1/354 - Release Date: 01/06/2006 > > ==== GEN-TRIVIA-ENG Mailing List ==== RANDOM TAGLINE - GEN-TRIVIA-ENG - MAILING LIST If a subject has already been discussed - there is nothing wrong with refreshing our memories. Lest we forget. :-) -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.8.1/354 - Release Date: 1/06/2006

Keep the old chin up Johno, pleased to hear from you. Val xx Hello folks Life goes on much slower than I would like but I am getting used to the fact that my eyes are now deteriorating fairly fast. I was warned by the Consultant that I may lose my sight altogether in the near future. What I do mostly now is to listen to the radio. I have a smallish radio and using headphones so that I don't interfere with anyone else's quietness I am keeping well up to date with things in general. Sorry I cannot write to you very often and send messages personally, but that is that. We are enjoying some beautiful weather and although I don't see a great deal I enjoy the rides out in the car. Cathy is the chauffeur and my eyes when anything crops up. I have been unable to do any gardening for several years but the girls have been able to fill six tubs with annuals. At least I will get the scent of some of them. Most of the rest of the garden is lawn and flowery shrubs etc so tubs are a good idea, especially where there are cats around to hoike out the flowers you have just planted. (We have a smallish band of marauding neighbourhood cats who love to inspect our garden at night and leave their calling cards.) What with them and the hedgehogs sometimes the garden resembles a battle ground. I have enclose a couple of pictures of our spring alliums which Cathy and Mary assure me look lovely and colourful. Cathy keeps me in contact with the list by reading messages out to me sometimes. I often have a good laugh about your doings. I will write to you sometimes to keep you abreast of my progress. A lady from the nursing community association is visiting me on the 16th. I visit a Consultant on the 7th July at the Low Vision Clinic. Whether they can help me I don't know. I hope you are all keeping fit and well and I will write again soon. Cheers Johno ==== GEN-TRIVIA-ENG Mailing List ==== RANDOM TAGLINE - GEN-TRIVIA-ENG - MAILING LIST Gen-Trivia-Eng listers remember Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.8.1/354 - Release Date: 1/06/2006

had a poorly puter but the nice man just fitted a new power source and mother board and it feels much better now. have found all relevant emails re: reunion and am ploughing my way through a backlog of 500+. to those of you who sent mark birthday greetings he will get them tonight when he gets home love Karen

The Times, Thursday, Jan 18, 1866; pg. 9; Issue 25398; col C THE LOSS OF THE STEAMSHIP LONDON. [continued] ---------------------- (From the Western News.) It was 10 o'clock on the morning of that fatal Thursday that Captain MARTIN had the terrible task of making known to the 200 passengers that the ship was sinking, and that they must prepare for the worst. She was then as low in the water as the main chains. The whole of the passengers and crew gathered, as with one consent, in the chief saloon, and having been calmly told by Captain MARTIN that there was no hope left, a remarkable and unanimous spirit of resignation came over them at once. There was no screaming or shrieking by women or men, no rushing on deck, or frantic cries. All calmly resorted to the saloon, where the Rev. Mr. DRAPER, one of the passengers, prayed aloud, and exhorted the unhappy creatures by whom he was surrounded. Dismay was present to every heart, but disorder to none. Mothers were weeping sadly over the little ones about with them to be engulphed, and the children, ignorant of their coming death, were pitifully inquiring the cause of so much woe. Friends were taking leave of friends, as if preparing for a long journey; others were crouched down with Bibles in their hands, endeavouring to snatch consolation from passages long known or long neglected. Incredible, we are told, was the composure which, under such circumstances, reigned around. Captain MARTIN stationed himself in the poop, going occasionally forward or into the saloon; but to none could he offere a word of comfort by telling them that their safety was even probable. He joined now and then for a few moments in the public devotions, but his place to the last was on the deck. About 2 o'clock in the afternoon, the water gaining fast on the ship and no signs of the storm subsiding being apparent, a small band of men determined to trust themselves to the mercy of the waves in a boat rather than go down without a struggle. Leaving the saloon, therefore, they got out and lowered away the port cutter, into which 16 of the crew and three of the passengers succeeded in getting and in launching her clear of the ship. These 19 men shouted for the captain to come with them, but with that heroic courage which was his chief characteristic, he declined to go with them, saying, "No, I will go down with the passengers; but I wish you God speed and safe to land." The boat then pulled away, tossing about helplessly on the crests of the gigantic waves. Scarcely had they gone 80 yards, or been five minutes off the deck, when the fine steamer went down stern foremost with her crowd of human beings, from whom one confused cry of helpless terror arose, and all was silent for ever. After the pinnace had got away from the London, and in the brief interval before she foundered, a rush was seen to be made to the two remaining boats, but the efforts to launch them were ineffectual, and the suddenness of the foundering at last - the London being an iron ship - prevented what might have been a successful second attempt to save a few more lives. Some hairbreadth escapes in connexion with the disaster are already known. A lady who was desirous of proceeding from Plymouth with her family to Melbourne by the London had made repeated pressing applications to the owners' agents at Plymouth, and the captain had been consulted, but, fortunately for the applicant, had declared that his cabins were so full that he could not possibly accommodate her, a result that, at that time, caused her much disappointment. A second-class male passenger was so alarmed at the rough weather which the London encountered on her way down to Plymouth, that immediately on her arrival at that port he came ashore, resigned his passage, and went back to his home, thus unwittingly saving his life. A young man, as the result of some family quarrel, left his home and took a passage by the London. He was advertised for in The Times, and importuned to return, his friends being unaware of his whereabouts. Messengers were sent down to Plymouth, and an influential shipbroker in the town was employed to intercept him should he attempt to sail thence. Fortunately he was detected among the passengers of the London, and his family communicated with by the broker, the result of which was that a brother of the young man came down to Plymouth and persuaded the would-be emigrant to forego his voyage. The following is the list of those saved: - John GREENHILL, engineer; John JONES, second engineer; John ARMOUR, third engineer; Thomas BROWN, fireman; W. M. EDWARDS, midshipman; D. T. SMITH, boatswain's mate; Wm. DANIELS, quartermaster; John KING, A.B.; Benjamin SHIELD, A.B.; Richard LEWIS, A.B.; James GOUGH, A.B.; Edward QUIN, A.B.; William CRIMES, O.S.; A. G. WHITE, boatswain's boy; William HART, carpenter's mate; Edward GARDNER, second-class steward; D. G. MAIN, passenger; John MUNRO, passenger; J. E. WILSON, passenger. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ End of this article. Petra

The Times, Thursday, Jan 18, 1866; pg. 9; Issue 25398; col C THE LOSS OF THE STEAMSHIP LONDON. [continued] ---------------------- LIST OF PASSENGERS. - First Class. - Rev. Mr. and Mrs. DRAPER, Mrs. OWEN and child, Mr. and Mrs. George F. URQUHART, Mr. and Mrs. John PATRICK, Mr. and Mrs. G. VAUGHAN, Mr. and Mrs. James ALDERSON, Mr. and Mrs. Philip BENSON, Mr. and Mrs. FENTON, Mr. A. and T. R. FENTON, Mr. G. M. SMITH, Mr., Mrs., Master, and Miss CHAPMAN; Mr. and Mrs. CLARK and Son, Mr. F. LEWIS, Mr. and Mrs. BEVAN, Dr. John WOOLLEY, Mr. and Mrs. DEBENHAM, Miss Laura MAUNDER, Mr. James ROBERTSON, Mr. T. M. TENNANT, Miss DOVEY, Mr. G. H. PALMER, Mr. T. BROWN, Mr. and Mrs. Gilbert AMOS, Miss Catharine M'LACHLAN, Mr. E. BROOKS, Mr. J. Ruskin RICHARDSON, Rev. Mr. and Mrs. James KERR, Miss Mary CUTTING, Mrs. and Miss KING, Mr. and Mrs. J. THOMAS and two children, Mr. A. SANDILANDS, Mr. E. YOUNGMAN, Mr. H. J. DENNIS, Mr. E. A. MARKS, Mr. D. F. DE PASS, Master W. D. BURRELL, Dr. HUNTER. Second Class. - Kaye EASTWOOD, Frederic STONE, H. J. WHITE, Annie WHITE, Helen PRICE, J. L. WILLIAMS, Mr. and Mrs. GRAHAM, B. G. ROWELL, J. E. WILSON, Helen MORLING, Georgiana GRAHAM, James DOTHIE, Charles GOUGH, Allan BRACE, James WOODHOUSE, George CROSS, William DAY, D. W. LEMON, Mr. and Mrs. GIFFETT, George CHENNELLS, W. A. WOOD, Elizabeth WOOD, William CLAYSON, Mary CLAYSON, Thomas WOOD, Elizabeth WOOD, Godfrey WOOD, Bennett BERAN, Susan BROOKER, Henry DAVIS, Thomas V. HAGAN, H. W. HARDINGE, Francis FRYER, John MUNRO, D. C. MAIN, Charles JOHNSTONE, Peter FENWICK, Ellen and Mary Ann MEGGS, G. H. CAMPBELL, Elizabeth MARKS, E. GLYNN, John, Jane, Elizabeth, Harry, Alfred, and Emily HICKMAN, Archibald M'LEAN. Third Class. - William PASSMORE, Hugh MILLAN, C. J. CHANDLER, Benjamin HAY, Ellen JONES, Selena and Alice SIMPSON, John and Elizabeth HENSON, Mr. and Mrs. William GRAHAM, George, Ann, and Maggie GRAHAM, George ROLWIGAN, John, Elizabeth, Helen, George, and Henry SERCOMBE, David M'VITTIE, David GRAHAM, Mr. and Mrs. FLACK and four children; Richard TREVARROW, D. BLOCK, J. SERKOM, Zabee MORRIS and Zabee BARNETT, S. BOLTON, Thomas SKEGGS, David and Elizabeth SMITH, A. UMPWAY, Samuel SPRING (boy), A. HOGEIN, James WALLS, William BARROW; Susan, Caroline, and Mary LAMPES, A. S. OSTER, John LITTLE, Henry M'COVEY. The Dr. WOOLLEY mentioned in the above list is, we understand, Bishop WOOLLEY, on his way to Sydney. Mr. G. V. BROOKE, the tragedian, is said to be among the passengers lost. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The Times, Thursday, Jan 18, 1866; pg. 9; Issue 25398; col C THE LOSS OF THE STEAMSHIP LONDON. [continued] ---------------------- LIST OF THE CREW. - Commander, Mr. J. B. MARTIN; Mr. Robert HARRIS, first officer; Mr. Arthur TREEHURST, second officer; Mr. A. C. ANGEL, third officer; Mr. J. V. FAULE, surgeon; George BATES, carpenter; Richard MORLEY, sail-maker; F. S. HUCKSTEPP, captain's steward; Francis HUCKSTEPP, steward; Grace LOGAN, stewardess; John MACKENZIE, chief cuddy servant; John LYALL, second class steward; William FOWLER, second cuddy servant; James BENNETT, third cuddy servant; Johns LEHBOND, captain's servant; Thomas HAM, captain's cook; Henry APPLETON, passengers' cook; James MURPHY, baker; Robert GANNON, butcher; Mr. John GREENHILL, chief engineer; Mr. John JONES, second ditto; Mr. John ARMOUR, third ditto; John STADEN, boatswain; D. T. SMITH, boatswain's mate. Able seamen: - William DANIELS, A. CAMPBELL, James BUTCHER, Robert MERRITT, John KING, Joseph SPURGEON, Karl SCOVAL, Robert THOMPSON, Johannes BARNECKER, Julius MATHEWS, Harman HENSTURKERG, Karl BROWN, John BROWN, Samuel BROWN, Benjamin SHIELDS, Samuel ELLINGHAM, Hans HERMAN, Edward QUIM, Reuben TROUBRIDGE, Martin ARNOLD, Auguste DITTMER, Otto OLSON, Andrew WILSON, James GOUGH, Henrich BUTCHER, Richard LEWIS, H. LABERG, and Andrew ANDERSEN; Henry JONES, winch-driver. Ordinary seamen: - George CASE, R. LITTLEPAGE, Pat SHORT, and William CURRIES. Boys: - Alfred WHITE and Edward LOGAN. Firemen: - John MORLEY, Henry JENKINS, Thomas PURKIS, Frederick HALFORD, Thomas BROWN, James BRAMBLE, and George CRACROFT. Trimmers: - George HOLMES, Charles FAIRBROTHER, George ROBSON, and W. M. CLARK, John F. HALE, fourth cuddy servant, Alfred W. SMITH, fifth cuddy servant; Morris M'KENZIE, sixth cuddy servant; and John FUNNELL, ordinary servant. The following who had signed articles deserted before the ship left Gravesend: - Antonio MAUZELLA, Walter FORTUNE, Martin BROOKS, Anthony DOUGHERTY, Edward ALLEN, and William JOHNSON; and the following were shipped at Plymouth - Edward THOMAS, Charles ANSELL, John MULLONEY, and Robert G. STEPHENS. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The Times, Thursday, Jan 18, 1866; pg. 9; Issue 25398; col C THE LOSS OF THE STEAMSHIP LONDON. [continued] ---------------------- At 10.30 p.m. on Wednesday, the ship still rolling deeply in a heavy cross sea, and the wind blowing a whole gale from the south-west, a mountain of water fell heavily over the waist of the ship, and spent its destructive force upon the main hatchway, over the engine-room, completely demolishing this massive structure, measuring 12ft. by 8ft., and flooding with tons of water this portion of the ship. Instant endeavours to repair the hatchway were made with a promptitude and vigour commensurate with the imminent crisis. Every spare sail that could be got at, and even blankets and mattresses from all parts of the ship, were thrown over the aperture, but each succeeding sea shipped by the vessel tore away the frail resource of the moment, and not more than ten minutes after the hatchway had been destroyed the water had risen above the furnaces and up to the waists of the engineers and firemen employed in this part of the ship. The lower decks were also now flooded with the rush of water the ship was continually taking in. The chief engineer remained at his post until the water had risen above his waist, when he went on deck and reported the fires were out, and his engines rendered useless. Captain MARTIN, with calm conviction, remarked that he was not surprised: on the contrary, he had expected such a result. Finding his noble ship at length little more than a log on the water, Captain MARTIN ordered his maintopsail to be set, in the hope of keeping her before the wind. This had scarcely been accomplished when the force of the wind tore the sail into ribands, with the exception of one corner, under which the ship lay to throughout the remainder of the night. The donkey engine was supplied with steam by a boiler upon deck, and all the deck pumps were kept going throughout the night, and the passengers of all classes, now aroused to a sense of their imminent danger, shared with the crew their arduous labours. Notwithstanding every effort the water still gained upon the pumps, and the gale continuing at its height, cross seas with tremendous force were constantly breaking over the vessel. The motion of the ship became low and heavy, and she refused to rise to the action of the waves. At a quarter after 4 o'clock on Thursday morning she was struck by a stern sea, which carried away four of her stern ports, and admitted a flood of water through the breach. From this time all efforts were useless, and at daybreak Captain MARTIN, whose cool intrepidity had never for a moment forsaken him, entered the cuddy where all classes of the passengers had now taken refuge, and responding to an universal appeal, calmly announced the cessation of all human hope. It is a remarkable fact that this solemn admission was as solemnly received - a resigned silence prevailing throughout the assembly, broken only at brief intervals by the well-timed and appropriate exhortations of the Rev. Mr. DRAPER, whose spiritual services had been incessant during the previous 24 hours. At 10 o'clock, the ship still rolling deeply, an attempt was made to launch the starboard pinnace, but a sea struck her just as she reached the water, and she sunk, leaving a crew of five men struggling for their lives. As the ship was lying-to three of them managed to scramble up the sides of the ship, and the other two were rescued by ropes being thrown to them. After this the exhausted crew appeared indifferent to their fate, and no further effort at launching the remaining boats was made until 1 o'clock, when, the water having reached the main chains and the ship evidently settling down, the port pinnace was got over the ship's side. Even at this moment the sea was so heavy that those of the passengers who were within reach of the boat appeared to prefer the frail shelter of the sinking vessel to the obvious dangers of a small boat in a raging sea. At this crisis Captain MARTIN, always at hand, addressing Mr. GREENHILL, his chief engineer, under whose command this particular boat was rated, said, "There is not much chance for the boat; there is none for the ship. Your duty is done; mine is to remain here. Get in and take command of the few it will hold." Thus prompted, Mr. GREENHILL, with his fellow engineers and some few others, numbering only 19 souls, among whom were only three second-class passengers, quitted the ship, with only a few biscuits in the shape of provisions, and not a drop of water. The pinnace had scarcely cleared the wake of the vessel, upon the poop of which upwards of 50 of the passengers were seen grouped, when a tremendous sea was seen to break over the doomed circle, who, when the ship rose slowly again, were dicovered to have been swept into the surging waters. Another moment and the vessel herself, settling down stern foremost, threw up her bows into the air and sank beneath the waves. The pinnace having no sails on board could only keep afloat before the wind, and was repeatedly in danger of swamping. They had not been afloat two hours before they saw a full-rigged ship sail past them, but at too great a distance to hail. At 3 a.m. on Friday they sighted the sails of a brig, the crew of which overheard their shouts and bore towards them; but, failing to get into the track of the boat, after making several fruitless tacks, she bore away. At daybreak a full-rigged cutter was observed at some distance, and, hoisting a shirt upon an oar, they endeavoured, but in vain, to attract attention. Shortly afterwards the Italian bark Adrianople, Captain CAVASSA, bound with a cargo of wheat from Constantinople for Cork hove in sight, and the captain having observed the pinnace, immediately shortened sail, and lay to, preparing to take them on board. On reaching the ship, notwithstanding the stress of weather and straitened means for the support of so large an increase to his crew, Captain CAVASSA received the Englishmen with unbounded kindness and hospitality, supplying them with all that was necessary in their destitute condition. The exigencies of the gale had obliged Captain CAVASSA to sacrifice more than half his cargo, and during the four days' run into Falmouth the weather carried away his rudder, and brought into useful requisition the services of his English passengers. The foregoing details having been furnished to the reporter by Mr. GREENHILL, may be relied upon as strictly authentic, and the same remark applies to the annexed list of the passengers and crew of the ship: - ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The Times, Thursday, Jan 18, 1866; pg. 9; Issue 25398; col C THE LOSS OF THE STEAMSHIP LONDON. ---------------------- A profound sensation was created among all classes yesterday morning upon receipt of the sad intelligence that Messrs. MONEY WIGRAM and Sons' auxiliary screw steamship the London had foundered in the Bay of Biscay with upwards of 200 souls on board. The fame this fine vessel had acquired as a passenger ship - partly owing to the fact of her last outward passage having been made in 59 days - was in itself calculated to dispel all anxiety on her behalf, even during the late tempestuous weather, and it is believed that her owners and the underwriters concerned were least of all prepared for the terrible disaster that has happened to her. It is a remarkable fact, moreover, that the London is the first ship belonging to the famous house of MONEY WIGRAM and Sons to which any serious casualty has occurred. In a century's experience, Messrs. WIGRAM have enjoyed a perfect immunity from loss, with the single exception of the True Briton, which belonged to a former generation of the firm, and foundered early in the present century in the same fatal bay. The London, which has been commanded ever since she was launched from Blackwall yard, in 1864, by Captain MARTIN, an Australian navigator of great experience, left the East India Docks on Thursday, the 28th of December, and dropping down to Gravesend, sailed thence on Saturday afternoon under charge of Mr. THOMPSON, a river pilot. As the night was wild and the wind dead ahead the ship brought up at the Nore, and lay there during the whole of the following day. There were two clergymen on board, the Rev. Dr. WOOLLEY, Bishop of Sydney, and the Rev. Mr. DRAPER, and both of them took part in the usual Sunday services. At daybreak on Monday, the 1st of January, the anchor was weighed, and the ship steamed down Channel, still against a head wind, but making fair way. While passing outside the Isle of Wight the wind increased to half a gale, and Captain MARTIN deemed it prudent to put back and lay to for the night in St. Helen's Roads. On the morning of the 2d inst. the London proceeded through the Needles into the open Channel, the wind being still ahead, but light. As the ship ran down Channel the wind rose and the sea increased, and a couple of hours after passing the Needles the wind blew a gale right ahead with a heavy sea rolling, which continued all the way to Plymouth, where the ship arrived about noon on Thursday, the 4th inst. A sad casualty occurred here. A pilot cutter put off a small boat, having on board the pilot and his assistant, to bring the London inside the breakwater. When the boat was about 100 yards from the London a sea capsized her, and both the pilot and his assistant were thrown into the water. Captain MARTIN instantly ordered one of his lifeboats to be lowered, and with great difficulty the assistant pilot was rescued, but the pilot was drowned. The London came to an anchorage inside the breakwater at 1 p.m. on the 4th inst., and during the afternoon took on board those of her first and second class passengers who had arranged to join the ship at Plymouth. At midnight on Friday she proceeded on her voyage, the weather being at this time calm, with a light wind ahead. She had full steam on during the whole of Saturday, and the voyage proceeded very satisfactorily until Sunday morning, when the wind increased, and a head sea gradually rose. During this day the London passed several ships, and nothing occurred to create the smallest uneasiness in the minds of any of the officers of the ship. During Sunday night the wind increased to a gale and the sea rose considerably. On the morning of Monday, the 8th inst., the ship was well clear of the land, and Captain MARTIN having ordered the engines to be stopped, set his topsails and so endeavoured to keep the ship moving slowly ahead. At noon on this day, the wind having somewhat lulled, the engines were again set in motion and kept steaming slowly ahead through the night. At 8 a.m. on Tuesday, the 9th inst., while the captain was still endeavouring to keep the ship in her course by means of the screw, the violence of the gale carried away at one sweep the jibboom, the foretopmast, the topgallantmast, and the royals. These large spars were not wholly detached from the ship, but, hanging fast to the stays, swung to and fro with such violence that the crew were wholly unable to secure them. About two hours later the mainroyalmast was blown completely out of its socket and added to the general wreck. Captain MARTIN, who had not been in bed since the previous Sunday night, was not at all disheartened up to this moment; but, as the gale continued to increase during the morning, with a sea already running mountains high, the position of the ship was undoubtedly felt to be one of some peril. Still, as the wind had somewhat veered round, the engines were kept steaming easy ahead, and it is believed that at this moment no person on board felt anxiety for the ultimate safety of the ship. About 3 p.m. on Tuesday, however, a tremendous sea struck the ship and carried the port lifeboat clean away from the davits. All that evening and through the succeeding night the wind blew a very heavy gale and the sea ran very high, but the screw was still kept steaming easy ahead. At 3 a.m. on Wednesday, the 10th inst., Captain MARTIN sent for Mr. GREENHILL, the chief engineer, and informed him of his intention to put the ship about and run for Plymouth, and he desired that full speed should be got up directly. This was immediately done. In half an hour after the ship's course had been altered, she was again struck by a tremendous sea, which carried away the starboard lifeboat, and the same sea stove in the starboard cutter. At noon on this day the ship's position was lat. 46 48 N., 8 7 W. A very heavy cross sea was running, with the wind now dead astern of the ship, which caused her to roll heavily. But no danger was even now anticipated, and all through the evening on Wednesday, and long after midnight, the ship continued to steam slowly ahead, the captain and his officers remaining steadily at their posts, and the passengers appearing to have full reliance upon the skill of Captain MARTIN to bring them safely to port. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The Times, Wednesday, Jan 03, 1866; pg. 5; Issue 25385; col G THE GALE. ----------------- PLYMOUTH, TUESDAY EVENING. It has been blowing strong for several days. A heavy gale commenced this morning from the south-west, and veered with increased force to the southward. The storm signal, a cone reversed, has been up all day. The frigate Galatea, lying just inside the breakwater, with top-gallant-mast struck, parted a chain, but was soon brought up again. All the merchant ships in the Sound have two-anchors down. The ship Zimi, which left Liverpool a month since for Bombay, put back here this afternoon leaky, with loss of boats, bulwarks, and one man drowned. The screw-steamer London, from London for Melbourne, due here to-day, has not arrived. The Duke of Cornwall, ready to start at 4 this afternoon for Dublin, is detained. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The Times, Tuesday, Jan 02, 1866; pg. 10; Issue 25384; col F SHIP NEWS. ------------------- DEAL, JAN. 1. Passed. - The London, from Liverpool [sic] for Port Phillip. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The following and the series of articles to follow on this subject were transcribed by Petra Michinson and are posted here with her permission. Geo. When The Times Digital Archives were freely accessible in April, I came across an article taken from the Cumberland Pacquet which mentioned that 10 people from Cumberland had lost their lives in the wreck of the steamship London (Bridget Casson recently transcribed this article for the Cumberland Rootsweb list). Intrigued, I tried to find more information about this disaster - and got a lot more than I bargained for! The London sank in a bad storm in the Bay of Biscay on 11th January 1866 on its way from London to Melbourne. 220 passengers and crew lost their lives; 16 crew and 3 passengers managed to get away in one boat and survived. The disaster happened after a wave tore off the skylight covering the hatchway above the engine room; the masses of water pouring into the ship extinguished the engine fires, leaving her without steam power to work the pumps, and eventually the continuing ingress of water made her sink. This calamity sent shock waves through the nation, particularly as another passenger steamer, the Amalia, sank a day later in the same storm in the Bay of Biscay under very similar circumstances. The report of the shipwreck spawned numerous letters from people speculating about the causes for the sinking and suggesting possible remedies. An inquiry was held by the Board of Trade, finding no blame with anybody, and of course there was an outcry that the inquiry had not been thorough enough and was designed to protect the shipowners... In between there were touching letters from relatives of the victims and reports about letters in bottles from the ship and a body found on the coast of France. It was quite hard to find the relevant articles - try searching The Times for the word "London" and you get dozens of hits in every edition! Even so, I found 37 articles relating to this accident, and that in spite of stopping the search at the end of March 1866. And I missed some important articles - of the 12 days of the inquiry, I missed the reports of days 2, 3 and 5. Unfortunately when I discovered that during the transcribing, the free access to The Times Digital Archives had long finished, so I can't rectify my omissions now. Transcribing all 37 articles produced a Word document of over 80 pages, which I divided into 58 emails. And no, I am not going to send them all in one go, as I would rightly be accused of swamping the lists! I will send them in instalments over the next week or so. As always, I have left the spelling etc. as I found it (although I may have inadvertently added a few spelling mistakes of my own!). The only change I have made is that when whole lists (e.g. of passengers) were given within a paragraph, I put each person on a new line but left the punctuation as it was. I have also capitalised all surnames. I must say that in particular the report of the sinking of the ship was one of the most harrowing articles I have ever transcribed. The whole story is not for the faint-hearted! If you find it all too long to read, I recommend at least the following articles: No. 3 - 7 : Report of Last Journey (includes lists of crew, passengers and survivors) No. 16 : Victims from Cumberland (previously transcribed by Bridget) No. 36 : Miraculous Preservation at Sea (mostly not at all about the London, but another shipwreck - with lots of names!) No. 47 : Letters in Bottles No. 49-51: Body Found (and identification) Some of the reports about the inquiry are also very interesting as most of the survivors were interviewed on days 4-9. The passengers and crew were from all over the country as well as from Australia, so you might even find some non-Cumberland relatives! If anyone wants to save all the transcriptions, just ask me to send you the Word document. I hope you all enjoy the transcriptions! Petra

And I'm Jean, also from Western Australia Welcome > Welcome to the list Lin, > Hope you sit and stay awhile it is always nice to see a new TRIVVIE. > I am Jill, from Westen Australia,where we need the rain the days are warm > and sunny but the nights are very cold. > Jill. > >

Happy reunion to the Trivvies, look forward to reading all about it Hugs Jean Oz

Belated happy birthday to Mark and congratulations to Jenny and David for their anniversary on the 5th. Best wishes for a happy birthday to Sharla's Alex for tomorow (8th) and advance good wishes to Karen (10th), and Sharla (11th). Hope you all had/have just the sort of day you'd wish. Jean Oz

Thank you everyone for your kind words, wishes and hopes. I will keep you up to date with anything interesting. Hugs Johno

Oh that I will second third fourth etc ect. We all love you Johno DiDi http://photobucket.com/albums/d100/didi_45 Hi and the , Trivvies,and other friends from all around the world even when you are asleep, so you awake each day with that glowing feeling, you have taught us so much over the years, we are so glad that your Michael chose OUR LIST to put you on. Love and Hugs Marlene ````````````````````` Hello folks Life goes on much slower than I would like but I am getting used to the fact that my eyes are now deteriorating fairly fast. I was warned by the Consultant that I may lose my sight altogether in the near future. What I do mostly now is to listen to the radio. I have a smallish radio and using headphones so that I don't interfere with anyone else's quietness I am keeping well up to date with things in general. ......snipped Sorry I cannot write to you very often and send messages personally, but that is that. Cheers Johno. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ==== GEN-TRIVIA-ENG Mailing List ==== RANDOM TAGLINE - GEN-TRIVIA-ENG - MAILING LIST Pure Fiction messages are frowned upon - Elephants do not travel in balloons - please use the Adventure List.

So that is where you are........I often wonder!! :) DiDi http://photobucket.com/albums/d100/didi_45 Hi Lyn and welcome to the Trivvies Feel free to jump in and ask away .... we're the most friendliest group you could come across :-) Our boss, Sue has aTrivvie site where there's allsorts to look at. www.trivvies.com I am John a I live in Doncaster, on my narrowboat .... But, am at present out and about on it. At the moment, I am at Galgate, which is 5 miles from Lancaster, on the Lancaster Canal. I hope you enjoy your stay with us Hugs John xxx Have just signed up as a Trivvie and my first time ever on a List. My expierence on a computer being card games, living jigsaws, and other puzzles that I do in my spare time, not much of that though; and the data based computers in the shop where I work. Day off is normally having my 2 young grandchildren. Used to do a lot of cross stitch but now have started making my own cards, and enjoying it very much . Have been told there is a Reunion this week, and details of where it is to be. Is there a meeting place there ? and what time please if someone will be kind enough to let me know, hoping you won't mind my joining in at this late moment. Will write more tomorrow as I had a long shift at work today and another tomorrow, Lin _________________________________________________________________ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters ==== GEN-TRIVIA-ENG Mailing List ==== RANDOM TAGLINE - GEN-TRIVIA-ENG - MAILING LIST If a subject has already been discussed - there is nothing wrong with refreshing our memories. Lest we forget. :-)

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