Happy Birthday John....though rather late !! Hope you enjoyed your day. ((((((((((((((Birthday hugs))))))))))))) Gwen

Sorry I missed your birthday John ... hope it was a good one. hugs Liz -----Original Message----- From: Sue [mailto:trivvie@btinternet.com] Sent: 18 June 2006 13:08 To: GEN-TRIVIA-ENG-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TRIVVIES] HB John If you celebrated your BD last night (Saturday) - then you won't be reading this today (Sunday) - I guess you'll miss Sunday out this week .. :-))))))))))) ........... When you come round - I hope you remember a brilliant time --- and if not - hey - why not have another ... !! .... Happy Birthday John - have a couple for us ... HUGS Sue & Andy -x- -x-

Poor Mother was correct ... not because of the Weather but because the plane journey finished up causing me to be "pretty poorly" !! as we landed, had a headache at Gatwick, and the airconditioning made it worse and the coming in to land was long and like leaps and drops ..... the poorly bit lasted about 22 hours, got back to my own place early Saturday evening. Thanks Sue for the lovely phone call later that evening, cheered me up. So Roz you are now a Grandmother whether you like it or not:-))) along with Grandad Kevin, and little Kev is an Aunty. Congrats to the mum and to you all and special wishes for the little one. Hugs Marlene `````````````````````````````````` poor mother..i just heard the weather report for her area upon return. at least 30C, high humidity, ergo it will feel like 40C. i think it is save to say she will be wilting and sweltering. roz..who does not do heat and humidity. p.s. kev became a grandpa at 12.53 am. his dau, vanessa had a little boy. 6lbs 8oz, loads of hair. he will either be called wyatt or joshua. ___________________________________________________________ Now you can scan emails quickly with a reading pane. Get the new Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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First--Happy Birthday to John---Also good to hear from Johno-- This Thursday I'll be going to Florida to bury my SIL. She died a week after Easter. The reason for the delay is that she was living in Alaska and it is quite complicated to fly a coffin across international air space so her daughter had her cremated and made plans to have her buried beside her Husband-my brother---in Florida. I'll be back on Sunday so I am not unsubing. Jean USA

14c cold??? That is beautiful SPRING WEATHER DiDi http://photobucket.com/albums/d100/didi_45 Thanks for the update Johno. We are having cold weather, sunny days but cold, around 14c, cold to me but you probably think not!! Hugs Val xx Dear All Hope you are all keeping well. We are keeping hot here. The temperature is nearly 30 degrees celsius which is about 10 degrees too hot for me. Cathy and Mary don't like the very hot weather either. Although those of you who live in the States and Australia and New Zealand will be used to much hotter weather so 30 is probably just warm to you. I am not doing too badly at the moment. I am keeping occupied and I am listening regularly on the radio to the World Cup football. Although I wish England well I am afraid the result will be either Argentina or Brazil. England are not playing half as well as they can and it shows. They appear to be struggling against teams that they should be beating easily. Still, time will tell. Cathy and Mary are completely uninterested in the football so if I want to discuss it I have to do so with Michael or Paul. Cathy read to me about your reunion exploits. A shame that travel problems had to spoil the event for some of you. Marlene also filled me in on various aspects of the reunion. I am very sorry that I was not able to attend this year. I have had a lovely time for the past few years meeting up with you all and I have those lovely memories which nothing can take away. I expect you will all be planning on next year's expedition! We entertained The Cox Family on Thursday and were very sorry to say au revoir to Marlene. She is like a breath of fresh air and she will be very much missed. Hopefully it will not be too long before she is able to return to see us all again. The garden generally is looking splendid although I have to rely on mostly Cathy and Mary's comments as I cannot see much detail. I can see blocks of colours though. As long as the hot weather is interspersed with cooler periods I am content. We still need so rain though..... Take care all of you Love and Hugs Johno ==== GEN-TRIVIA-ENG Mailing List ==== RANDOM TAGLINE - GEN-TRIVIA-ENG - MAILING LIST Pure Fiction messages are frowned upon - Elephants do not travel in balloons - please use the Adventure List. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/366 - Release Date: 15/06/2006 ==== GEN-TRIVIA-ENG Mailing List ==== RANDOM TAGLINE - GEN-TRIVIA-ENG - MAILING LIST If a subject has already been discussed - there is nothing wrong with refreshing our memories. Lest we forget. :-)

I'm not late . . . honest. I sent your greetings by Escargot Mail. Guess they weren't as fast as I thought! <grin> Hope your had a smashing day, John . . .messing about in boats. Jennifer Gwen Wilkins wrote: > Happy Birthday John....though rather late !! Hope you enjoyed your day. > > ((((((((((((((Birthday hugs))))))))))))) > > Gwen > > >

Hi John It's just on 2pm here, so 7am in UK. Most of the day still in front of you. Hope you have a really enjoyable birthday. Jean in sunny W. Australia

Here's a very interesting currency converter from the National Archives (UK); http://tinyurl.com/oknxu In the 'Old Money to New' tab you can enter a value and a year and it will show what the current value is today. In the 'Buying Power' tab it lets you enter an amount in today's money and a year and it gives an example of what your amount would buy then. E.g. in 1270 £1.00 had the same value as today's £532.72 and £1.00 in today's money would get you - nothing. £10.00 was worth five (old) pence which was a days pay for a craftsman in the building trade. You can nominate years between 1270 and 1900 in ten-year intervals and between 1900 and 2005 in five-year intervals. Currency values are quoted in GBP (UK Pounds). Folk who don't use GBP can use this site; http://www.xe.com/ucc/ to first convert their local currency to GBP. Geo.

If you celebrated your BD last night (Saturday) - then you won't be reading this today (Sunday) - I guess you'll miss Sunday out this week .. :-))))))))))) ........... When you come round - I hope you remember a brilliant time --- and if not - hey - why not have another ... !! .... Happy Birthday John - have a couple for us ... HUGS Sue & Andy -x- -x-

The Times, Tuesday, Jan 30, 1866; pg. 7; Issue 25408; col E THE LOSS OF THE LONDON. ----------------------- OFFICIAL INQUIRY. [continued] Mr. Robert TAPLIN, Engineer Surveyor for the port of London to the Board of Trade, was next examined. - In answer to Mr. O'DOWD, he said it was his duty to examine the engines, safety-valves, and fire-holds of passenger steamers. He usually made his examinations twice a year on each ship. His inspection was with a view to the certificate of the Board of Trade, which was given for a period of six months. He surveyed the London three times. He first surveyed her in October, 1864, when her engines were new. He next surveyed her in May, 1865; and lastly in December, 1865. In these surveys he had directed his attention to the engines, boilers, and machinery. Her horse-power was 200, nominally. The pressure on her boilers was 29lb. to the square inch. The screw shaft passed through the after engine-room bulkhead, with a leather washer round it to prevent the water passing through. It was properly fitted, and seemed to him to be water-tight. The plates round the suction pipes were very good and sound. The furnaces were about 3ft. 6in. or 3ft. from the stokhole platform. He granted the London the usual declaration of efficiency. By Captain HARRIS. - The engines were high and low pressure, with direct action. The discharge pipes were copper, with gun-metal valves, and fitted with expansion joints. He did not think anything could have gone wrong with the engines of the London, so as to make her ship so much water. The diameter of the flange was about 20in., and that of the pipes 1ft. By Mr. O'DOWD. - The working of the ship would not have been impeded by a covering between the skylight of the hatchway and the engines. Such a contrivance would have interfered with the draught of air, but such interference might have been counteracted by artificial means. He had only seen instances of the necessity for such protection in two or three cases. The most advisable plan in the case of the London would have been to have procured a covering for the engine-room on the main deck. Captain HARRIS asked the witness whether he had ever been to sea. Mr. TAPLIN replied that he had not. Captain HARRIS remarked that these things sounded very well in theory, but the matter was different when a ship had to encounter a raging sea in the Atlantic. Mr. O'DOWD observed that they had something more than theory for the plan of covering the engine-room; this plan had been reduced to practice on the Clyde. In reply to Captain HARRIS the witness said the London had accommodation for 370 tons of coal. Mr. George BARBER, Shipwright Surveyor under the Board of Trade, was then examined, and stated that while stationed on the Clyde, before his recent transfer to the port of London, he had seen steamships fitted with coverings over the engine-room, and between that room and the hatchway. The plan adopted was this: - Suppose a vessel had a full poop originally, and her engine-room skylight on the upper deck before the poop, the poop was carried out for some feet before the engine-room hatchway, and a water-tight bulkhead was carried from the main deck up to the poop. This plan had been adopted in several ships. There were two in the port of London at present - the Atalanta and the Bellona - which were fitted with such a protection. He approved the plan, and did not see why it might not have been carried out in the case of the London. It might have been adopted on board that ship by the poop being carried out about 15ft. beyond the engine hatchway. Another plan which might be made available for merchant ships was that adopted in the Royal navy. Shutters might be used for the protection of the engine-room hatchway. Captain HARRIS. - For what class of steam vessels are they used in the navy? Mr. BARBER. - For every class. Captain HARRIS. - How is ventilation obtained? Mr. BARBER. - There are several contrivances aboard those ships for obtaining ventilation. Captain HARRIS inquired of the witness whether the shutters he spoke of were used in the navy to prevent men from going down when the ship was cleared for action, or to prevent the water getting into the engine-room. Mr. BARBER replied that he had never heard they were for the former purpose. In answer to a question from Captain BAKER, the witness said he believed that if such a ship as the London was now being fitted up in the Clyde her engine-room would be protected by a poop covering and bulkhead. In reply to Mr. O'DOWD, Mr. BARBER said he belived that the London was fitted in the same manner as foreign-going passenger steamers out of the port of London usually were. The inquiry was then adjourned till this morning. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ End of day 1 of the inquiry. Unfortunately I missed days 2 and 3. Day 4 to follow..... Petra.

Sue doesn't mind and there were only three others who responded all of whom were in favour so I intend to send the remaining transcriptions a few per day. Anyone who gets bored with them can always delete them unread if they wish. Geo. ----- Original Message ----- From: Geo. To: Sue ; Trivs Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 12:45 PM Subject: Loss of the 'London' SueBoss, et al. I have many more (30 or so) of Petra's transcriptions relating to this subject. Most are of the enquiry into the loss, including evidence from survivors and owners, etc. First, Sue, do you think them appropriate for the List? Second, Trivvies, I'd like to get some feel for the level of interest. Even if Sue deems them appropriate, there isn't a lot of point in sending them if people are bored with the subject. I'll await some feedback before sending any more. Geo.

Thanks for the update Johno. We are having cold weather, sunny days but cold, around 14c, cold to me but you probably think not!! Hugs Val xx Dear All Hope you are all keeping well. We are keeping hot here. The temperature is nearly 30 degrees celsius which is about 10 degrees too hot for me. Cathy and Mary don't like the very hot weather either. Although those of you who live in the States and Australia and New Zealand will be used to much hotter weather so 30 is probably just warm to you. I am not doing too badly at the moment. I am keeping occupied and I am listening regularly on the radio to the World Cup football. Although I wish England well I am afraid the result will be either Argentina or Brazil. England are not playing half as well as they can and it shows. They appear to be struggling against teams that they should be beating easily. Still, time will tell. Cathy and Mary are completely uninterested in the football so if I want to discuss it I have to do so with Michael or Paul. Cathy read to me about your reunion exploits. A shame that travel problems had to spoil the event for some of you. Marlene also filled me in on various aspects of the reunion. I am very sorry that I was not able to attend this year. I have had a lovely time for the past few years meeting up with you all and I have those lovely memories which nothing can take away. I expect you will all be planning on next year's expedition! We entertained The Cox Family on Thursday and were very sorry to say au revoir to Marlene. She is like a breath of fresh air and she will be very much missed. Hopefully it will not be too long before she is able to return to see us all again. The garden generally is looking splendid although I have to rely on mostly Cathy and Mary's comments as I cannot see much detail. I can see blocks of colours though. As long as the hot weather is interspersed with cooler periods I am content. We still need so rain though..... Take care all of you Love and Hugs Johno ==== GEN-TRIVIA-ENG Mailing List ==== RANDOM TAGLINE - GEN-TRIVIA-ENG - MAILING LIST Pure Fiction messages are frowned upon - Elephants do not travel in balloons - please use the Adventure List. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/366 - Release Date: 15/06/2006

Congratulations to Kev on becoming a Grandpa . . . so I guess that makes you a Step-Grandma (wicked, or otherwise <VBG>) Have you seen the little fella yet? Jennifer Roz Griston wrote: > > roz..who does not do heat and humidity. > > p.s. kev became a grandpa at 12.53 am. his dau, vanessa had a little > boy. 6lbs 8oz, loads of hair. he will either be called wyatt or joshua. > >

Just popped in to wish you a very happy birthday John. I can remember that last year we had the reunion this weekend and I spoke to you on the phone then. Wolfie -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 16/06/2006

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Happy birthday, John boy !!! Hope whatever you do today floats your boat !! Hugs, Pat & Shaun.xxx :o))

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From the Whitehaven News - Thursday, October 14, 1869 posted with permission of the transcriber, Diane Moore. Geo. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ CURE FOR HYDROPHOBIA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A correspondent writes: "A case of hydrophobia was successfully treated in India in, I think, 1868. The patient was placed in a cane-bottomed chair and covered with blankets, a few grains of mercury were rubbed up with some sulfur and thrown on a pan containing burning charcoal. The pan was placed under the chair, frequent doses of mercury were administered, intense salivation set in-the patient was cured. Tonics and alum gargle removed the ill effects of the mercury. The case was reported in the Indian Medical Gazette, published at Calcutta by Messrs. WYMAN and Co. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dear All Hope you are all keeping well. We are keeping hot here. The temperature is nearly 30 degrees celsius which is about 10 degrees too hot for me. Cathy and Mary don't like the very hot weather either. Although those of you who live in the States and Australia and New Zealand will be used to much hotter weather so 30 is probably just warm to you. I am not doing too badly at the moment. I am keeping occupied and I am listening regularly on the radio to the World Cup football. Although I wish England well I am afraid the result will be either Argentina or Brazil. England are not playing half as well as they can and it shows. They appear to be struggling against teams that they should be beating easily. Still, time will tell. Cathy and Mary are completely uninterested in the football so if I want to discuss it I have to do so with Michael or Paul. Cathy read to me about your reunion exploits. A shame that travel problems had to spoil the event for some of you. Marlene also filled me in on various aspects of the reunion. I am very sorry that I was not able to attend this year. I have had a lovely time for the past few years meeting up with you all and I have those lovely memories which nothing can take away. I expect you will all be planning on next year's expedition! We entertained The Cox Family on Thursday and were very sorry to say au revoir to Marlene. She is like a breath of fresh air and she will be very much missed. Hopefully it will not be too long before she is able to return to see us all again. The garden generally is looking splendid although I have to rely on mostly Cathy and Mary's comments as I cannot see much detail. I can see blocks of colours though. As long as the hot weather is interspersed with cooler periods I am content. We still need so rain though..... Take care all of you Love and Hugs Johno