The Times, Thursday, Sep 06, 1821; pg. 3; Issue 11344; col B SUMMER ASSIZES. ------------- CARLISLE, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 1. BREACH OF PROMISE OF MARRIAGE. - THOMPSON V. BLAMIRE. [continued] Now, gentlemen, I will show you upon what terms the defendant visited the plaintiff, and how much he was, or professed to be, in love with her. Gentlemen, I care not which: if it was a pretence for a purpose so base that I can hardly give it a name, he has signally failed; but I rather think that he was in love with her till he fell in love with another, because the other had a larger fortune. The defendant had removed on a tour of excursion of business to Northumberland, and there he wrote a letter, dated from Newcastle, in which, in the usual way, he expresses the evils of absence, his impatience to see Miss THOMPSON, &c. "My dearest Sarah, I have embraced the earliest opportunity of writing a few lines. I don't like Newcastle so well as I did. I should be much happier with you, my dear Sarah." There were two or three other objects alluded to in the letter, one was an object always of a great deal of attention with him, namely, his horse. (A loud laugh.) "I am afraid it will be Saturday night before I will get hence, as the horse does not run for the cup, but for the maiden plate on Friday. (Repeated bursts of laughter.) I wish I was back to you again, my dear Sarah, as there are none on earth I love but you. I remain, dearest Sarah, your affectionate lover, E. BLAMIRE." A day or two after he writes another letter, in which he says - "I have been very ill, and last night I thought I should have died." Here, as it were, with all the solemnity of a death-bed, he declares the warmth and unalterable ardour of his affection and attachment. "ARMSTRONG has behaved himself very well; he is very ill also." (Loud laughter.) Next there is this expression - "I think the horse will not run at all this week, as he has fallen amiss." So, you see, the horse, like Mr. ARMSTRONG, did very well, and fell ill also. (An uproar of laughter.) In the next sentence you will see how early that trait in his character appeared which has so much distinguished him since. It will appear a peculiarity in his disposition, which always breaks out, and which is vulgarly called, looking at the main chance. "I have stopped with Joseph JOHNSON since Monday, which I think is much pleasanter than stopping at an inn." (Immoderate laughter.) Again he recurs to his horses, and says, "I am sorry I did not bring my chestnut mare with me, as I am quite tired with walking. I see none here half so good as she is. She is" - (You will expect here to find a splendid comparison in favour of his mistress: I thought I was to read that the chestnut mare was as much superior to all others as Miss THOMPSON was fairer than all the misses of Carlisle; but no, gentlemen, the letter runs thus: - "the chestnut mare is as much superior to any horse here as Jack is to any about Carlisle." (The Court was here quite convulsed with laughter.) The love-letter writer goes on - "Sally is turned as pretty a little thing as ever I saw." This, I suppose, was some horse or mare that he thought very pretty; but no, gentlemen, I find I am mistaken. In short, gentlemen, I need only say that this lover of horses professes himself "sick of Newcastle races." He concludes by saying, "Believe me, my dearest, to be yours, and none but yours while I have life, E. BLAMIRE." In this declaration, gentlemen, Miss OLIVER was excepted; but that was a mental reservation. Gentlemen, you see that his master passion, as appears from his letters, or as he represents, I care not which, is his love for Miss THOMPSON. In the spring of 1819 he writes a letter from the metropolis. I am not deeply read in amatory effusions - I am not much learned in love-letters; yet, never before was there more attachment, more ardent love, more glowing enthusiasm for the name of a female, in prose or in verse (for the gentleman dealt in both) poured forth from the Bull and Mouth, in Bull and Mouth-street, since the foundation of that useful and convenient institution. I cull out one, from the principle which it unfolds. He says, "I am getting fat with London." (Immense laughter.) There comes next a sentence of this sort: - "I have just received a letter from my sister; she also mentions the death of the 15th Hussars." He was naturally much interested in this, as the doctor had been connected with a horse regiment. But what inference, think ye, does he make from this melancholy event? Is it that we should be always ready for death? - always ready to render up an account? - that we should live well, and deal justly by our neighbour? No such thing. But this is the inference: - "I was very sorry to hear it; the evening before I left Carlisle he was playing at billiards in good health. This is an uncertain world, therefore" - mark gentlemen - "we should take great care of ourselves." This is exactly the case wherever he is; whether racing in Newcastle, or getting fat in the Bull and Mouth, he is true to this. Mark the end, says the wise man. Regard the end of all things, says Mr. BLAMIRE, and let us take care of ourselves. Gentlemen, I shall trouble you with no more, nor shall I detail to you the love verses which, if I may judge from the extraordinary difference between the spelling and the words, he must have copied from some other writer. Take this specimen: - "Bid me to live, and I will live thy protestant to be; "Or bid me love, and I will give a loving heart to thee. "Thou art my life, my love, my heart, the very eyes of me, "And hast command of every part to live and die for thee." [It is quite impossible to give an idea of the state of the Court and audience while the learned gentleman repeated those verses in his peculiar manner.] But, gentlemen, the result was not as poetical as the poetry I have repeated may lead you to expect. He was not led by love; he was not chained to a hair as lovers love to say, but his was a golden chain. Gentlemen, he abandoned her to whom he professed himself attached, whom he taught to love, whose hopes he had inspired, and whose life he has made forever wretched. Gentlemen, he has driven her to you to seek for compensation in damages. If any of you are fathers or brothers, I call upon you in the situation of fathers, brothers, or friends: but no, if you are men, it is sufficient. I appeal to your feelings as men, I call upon you to prevent young men from exciting an attachment in the breast of a virtuous female, and then seeking for marriage elsewhere. Marriage, gentlemen, all classes look to for happiness; with persons in her class it is almost the whole of happiness. But to make her attached to him, to have taught her that happiness was to be found only in his society, and then to have abandoned her, and all for the sordid love of greater property: gentlemen, what compassion will you give for such an injury? If my learned friend shall attempt to insinuate any thing against Miss THOMPSON's character, I shall have an opportunity of again addressing you. I mention this as only possible, because such attempts are often made; and when they are made without cause, they can have only one effect, which is the only effect they ought to have - that of enhancing the damages. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This case to continue..... Petra

The Times, Thursday, Sep 06, 1821; pg. 3; Issue 11344; col B SUMMER ASSIZES. ------------- CARLISLE, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 1. BREACH OF PROMISE OF MARRIAGE. - THOMPSON V. BLAMIRE. So great was the anxiety to hear this trial, that from eight in the morning till two in the afternoon the Court was excessively crowded, while the merest questions of abstract right which Dandy Dinmont could wish to litigate were discussed. At length THOMPSON and BLAMIRE was announced, and the Jury was sworn. Mr. TINDALL opened the pleadings in the usual form. Mr. BROUGHAM. - You have heard from my learned friend, who opened the pleadings generally, what the nature of this action is. It is now my duty to state the circumstances which gave it birth. Miss Sarah THOMPSON is the daughter of a very respectable man, a Mr. THOMPSON, who lives not far from this place, and near Scotby. I would wish that any of you, or all of you, were from that neighbourhood, in which this gentleman and his daughter live, because, if you had known the father by familiar intercourse, if you had known his reputation for probity and general respectability, it would be sufficient protection for me, in case any such attempts as are sometimes made to cast any imputations on the character of this plaintiff should now be offered. The defendant is a young gentleman, son of a gentleman of considerable property, Mr. BLAMIRE, of Suttle-house. I should mention that he is his natural son, but he was brought up in his family, and no difference was ever discovered, or is now seen, between him and a legitimate son. The defendant seemed to have considerable means at his disposal, and his habits at least showed no lack of resources. In 1815 the defendant became intimately acquainted in Mr. THOMPSON's family. Miss THOMPSON is a young lady of considerable personal accomplishments. An intimacy began early to be formed between her and the defendant, and in course of one or two years it became manifest to her father. It naturally soon became much talked of in the neighbourhood. They became warmly attached, and the neighbours considered them as about to become man and wife. The parent then began to feel what was perfectly natural, but what he cannot be blamed for not having expressed earlier, an anxiety to know whether his daughter was fairly dealt with. He asked Mr. BLAMIRE, the defendant, what were his intentions? His answer was perfectly natural - "If ever he married any person, he would marry his daughter." Mr. THOMPSON considered it his duty to put the same question again. He promised distinctly to make Miss THOMPSON his wife. Now, gentlemen, there is not the slightest pretence for insinuating the slightest imputation on Miss THOMPSON's character, or for insinuating that she has done any thing unworthy of the purest female delicacy, or what would reduce in any degree the damages which I now claim. Gentlemen, I mean to say in plain terms, that she did not what would now greatly diminish her claim - abandon her virtue in her intercourse with her lover. During the life of Mr. BLAMIRE's father, it might be thought inconvenient for the marriage to take place; but some time afterwards the declared lover was again asked whether he meant to fulfil his engagement, and he repeated his warmest love and affection for Miss THOMPSON. But he had in course of time shown, what his letters to the plaintiff indicated, a feeling for himself which occasioned the breach of his promise, and caused the present action. Other views opened upon him, and he married another lady, a Miss OLIVER, a lady of large present fortune, and larger expectations. In point of character and respectability Miss THOMPSON, to whom he vowed the strongest attachment, and whom he afterwards abandoned because she was inferior in fortune, and in that alone, Miss THOMPSON may defy comparison with Miss OLIVER. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This case to continue..... Petra

Hi Johno I join with Pat in wishing you good luck in July. Jean Oz > Good luck in July - you certainly know how to enjoy yourself, don't you ??!!! > > Pat.xxx :o)) > A Maid of Kent, UK.

Thinking back on years of holidays got to wondering what other folk like doing, and pondering on it bought on this sonnet of what mine have been in the past. SO come out of the woodwork, put those cardmaking tools away for a while, stop that cross stitching and relive some of your favourite hols. Marlene Here is some what my favourite have been ...... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Where ever on Holidays that I go I love to see how the area doth flow, Amid the fun I also like to search For historic sites and a lovely church. By the seaside I love to ponder Paddling the water as I wander. Remembering many a time from the past It's wonderful how these memories last. As I do not drive, it recently has been a shame Missing many a lovely village and a pretty lane. Do remember a very long bicycle trip one year From Terling to Maldon on Mud with a cousin dear, We stopped on the way to earn just a mere two bob Picking one sack of peas ~~ 'twas a terrible job Marlene Cox June 21st 2006 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ___________________________________________________________ Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail. "The New Version is radically easier to use" – The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

The Times, Friday, Mar 30, 1866; pg. 9; Issue 25459; col B THE LOSS OF THE LONDON. -------------------------- TO THE EDITOR OF THE TIMES. Sir, - The letter in your columns of this day signed "J. RICKETT" gives the best solution I have yet seen of the cause of the loss of the unfortunate London. I have been in a like situation to that desribed by him in a ship of the late East India Company; the dead weight of shot, &c., in the hold making the ship roll like the pendulum of a clock. Mr. RICKETT says he will not go into the question of "keeping royal masts aloft in bad or winter weather." It will be in his recollection that the ships of the late East India Company invariably crossed the Bay of Biscay with short, stump, topgallantmasts, which were easily either housed or sent on deck. If we add to this that our crews were sufficient in number and nearly all Englishmen and seamen, we may compare favourably our old care and seamanship with those of the modern school; the liberality of our old masters (the East India Company) with the somewhat penurious policy of the shipowners of the present day. I am, Sir, very faithfully your, J. R. ADAMS, late H.E.I.C. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ And that is the end of my transcriptions about this sad disaster. Petra

The Times, Thursday, Mar 29, 1866; pg. 8; Issue 25458; col B THE LOSS OF THE LONDON. -------------------------- TO THE EDITOR OF THE TIMES. Sir, - I hope you will find me space in your valuable columns for a few words on this sad calamity, which has caused the desolation of so many homes and has wrung the heart of the nation. At length it appears to me that the dawn is breaking on the true proximate cause of the foundering of this noble ship. At the closing of the annual Session of the Institute of Naval Architects, on Saturday last, Sir John PAKINGTON, in speaking on this distressing subject, quoted from the letter of a captain of a ship like the London, stating that he once loaded his ship with iron, closely stacked, and the consequence was that she laboured so much that he believes that if he had met with any very rough weather she would have been jeopardized. In corroboration of this opinion, I beg to state that in the month of February, 1826, I saled as third officer of the Hon. Company's ship Dunina, bound for Bengal and China; we had on board a heavy quantity of iron, in the shape of bars, and military stores, such as shot and shell, &c., and in consequence of their being stowed too low in the hold, and too compactly, we found the ship as stiff as a poker under canvas, and very laboursome in a sea-way. Now, the old Company's ships were as near as possible all built on the same model, and were, perhaps, the finest sea boats that ever crossed the ocean. Notwithstanding this, when we got into a gale on the skirts of the Bay of Biscay we rolled our main and mizen masts over the side, leaving nothing standing but the foremast, foreyard, and bowsprit. After the loss of our masts the ship rolled deeper and heavier, shipping large quantities of water; and why? Because the reduction of weight aloft made her still more stiff. It was the general opinion that the old ship must founder before morning. Under God's good providence we weathered the gale, and, with the aid of jury-masts, we waddled into Cork harbour, where we refitted the ship and re-stowed the cargo, by raising the dead weight. On proceeding to sea again with the same cargo, but more judiciously stowed, we found the ship as lively and comfortable as possible, and we had a pleasant voyage to Calcutta, though we met with several heavy gales. Your correspondent, Mr. H. Gilbert HIGHTON, has with praiseworthy efforts collected and made public a considerable amount of evidence, - some good, some bad, and some contradictory. In his letter of the 24th he very properly explains the nautical word "crank," a disposition to upset. I think it right, also, to remind unprofessionals that "stiff" means the converse. Mr. HIGHTON dwells strongly on the dangers of "crankness;" he is in error upon that point. Every competent seaman knows that the crank ship is the easy ship in a gale, the stiff ship the laboursome one. I contend, on the evidence of the stevedore, given on the inquiry before Mr. TRAILL, that the London was too stiff. It is stated that she had 200 tons of kentledge on board, which I apprehend was stowed flat on her inner skin, or lining; then comes the weight of her engines, &c.; then comes 300 tons of iron, which the stevedore states he raised nine or ten inches. In my humble opinion it ought to have been raised from three to four feet, and even then the iron should have been laid very open on grating, &c. Everybody agrees upon one point, and that is, the poor London made very bad weather of it; and why? Not, in my opinion, from being too deeply laden, but from being too stiff, which was the cause of her rolling so deeply, and having, as Mr. HIGHTON's informant describes it, "scooped up the water" in her rolls. Had she been crank, she would have lain as long as the strength of the wind lasted steadily on her side. I do not attribute the loss of the London to her deep lading. Look at the West Indian sugar-laden ships, their decks within a few feet of the water's edge; they are usually crank, and waddle home across the stormiest sea in the world, and seldom come to grief. Then, again, the old Company's tea-laden ships from China. They were always very crank ships. Now, it is an historical fact that the Hon. Company did not lose, out of their large annual fleets, from 1806 to 1834 (when their charter expired), a single tea-laden ship. The London was a very long ship, and would without her steam power lay-to badly in a gale of wind. When she fell off in the trough of the sea she would, from the placement of the dead weight in her bottom, roll deeply, and when lurching to windward present her deck to the sea and ship large bodies of water. I will not go into the subject of royal masts on end in the winter season; doubtless, they were the cause of the loss of the jibboom. I beg to apologize for the length of this letter. I am, however, encouraged by the knowledge that your columns are always open to any suggestion which may prove for the benefit or safety of the community. I have the honour to be, Sir, your obedient servant, JAMES RICKETT. Cotterstock, Oundle, March 27. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Petra

The Times, Monday, Mar 26, 1866; pg. 12; Issue 25455; col E THE LOSS OF THE LONDON. - It cannot be denied that there is reason for dissatisfaction with the inquiry into the loss of the London and its result. The magistrate may have been strictly right in not permitting cross-examination, but no direct examination will ever bring out the whole truth, and satisfy the public that there is nothing to be cleared up. And from the habit of questioning witnesses very tenderly there is an indisposition even to ask them for explanations when their statements are incomprehensible. Several instances of this kind occurred in the inquiry into the loss of the London. The nautical witnesses gave most contradictory accounts of the same circumstance, but were seldom required to bring their statements into accord, or show the reason for their differences. As for the causes of the loss, we believe them to be very complex, and that we should err if we ascribed it solely to overlading, to structure, to deficiencies in equipment, to imprudent seamanship, or a badly composed crew. But all these causes had probably some part in the disaster. As for the lading, the ship certainly seems to have been brought down low in the water, but a steamer seldom leaves port in a perfect trim, for if she started light she would be crank after some days' consumption of fuel. So either at departure, or at arrival, the steamer can hardly be in the most desirable trim. But the deckload of fuel was certainly a fault, whether the total weight of the cargo was in excess or not. As for the structure of the ship, with a proportion of length to beam of nearly eight to one, we cannot but think it awkward for a ship intended for a long voyage, a great part of which would have to be performed under canvas. Mr. SAMUDA defends the proportions, and says they are those of the most successful steamers of the day; but are not those vessels for steam-power wholly, their handling under which will be very different from what it would be under sail? The very long ships under sail, and in bad weather with a heavy sea, will neither wear nor stay, and from those inabilities the Royal Charter was jammed on a lee-shore and lost, and previously, from the same causes, lower down the Channel, the Tayleure. A great effect has been produced by what we may describe as Mr. DENIS's posthumous evidence, the note in a bottle which drifted to Brest; but we must bear in mind that a landsman in a sinking ship may be excused for taking rather a harsh view of her qualities. We speak well of the bridge that carries us safe over, but not of the ship that takes us to the bottom. As for the seamanship, there is difference of opinion whether the ship ought to have been kept hove to, or run before the wind to shelter. But all nautical men must condemn her putting to sea in the depth of winter with all her top-gear aloft, and she must have been hove to the first time with royals on end and yards across, a most unseamanlike inconsistency. Mr. HIGHTON quotes the opinion of an old commander, that the ship should have been scudded. But the London had no proper storm sails, a great and culpable defect in her equipment, and if she had been furnished with them, we must ask whether fore and aft sails would have served her for running. If it would have been safe to put her before the wind at all, would it not have been under her reefed foretopsail? The "old commander" is wrong in stating that the small vessel which passed under the distressed London's stern, the Courier, scudded merrily before the gale. Not long after she left the London she was obliged to lie to. Mr. HIGHTON cites two contradictory statements as to the properties of the London, one in Mr. DENIS's note that she was crank, and another that she was so overweighted with cargo as to be too stiff to list from the wind. Had she been the latter her masts would inevitably have gone when she was lying to under sail, with her top-gear all aloft. The fact that the royals and topgallants were not lowered before bad weather was made we must attribute to the unfitness of the raw crew, unknown to each other and to their officers, and one-fourth or more foreigners, not understanding English words of command. - Examiner. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Petra

There may have been, Marlene, but if there was, the transcribers either don't have a copy of that paper or haven't got to it yet. I would be very interested in more information myself. One has to wonder why a child (presumably) had access to the gunpowder. Dad being a miner may have had access but what was it doing at home? The other question that springs to mind is; Surely even an adult handful isn't capable of holding enough gunpowder to cause that amount of damage? Also, it should only explode if confined. In a hand, I think it would just 'flash' and burn. Geo. Wonder Geo if there was a follow up on this story, ?? Marlene ``````````````````````````````` Geo sent ..... > CAUTION AGAINST GUNPOWDER. - A dreadful accident > took place a few days ago in > the cottage of Jonathan SIMPSON, a miner, at > Haltcliff, near Hesket New-market. > His youngest son having incautiously approached too > near the fire, with a large > quantity of gunpowder in his hand, a dreadful > explosion instantly ensued, which > completely unroofed the house, demolished the front, > and burned most severely > the whole family, consisting of five individuals; > but hopes are entertained of > their recovery. - Carlisle Journal. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Petra

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Send the details and I'll try. Wolfie...................the quiet one -----Original Message----- From: Marlene Cox [mailto:marmelade_ca@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 3:27 AM To: GEN-TRIVIA-ENG-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TRIVVIES] REQUEST if Possible Please Please has anyone the resources of looking up the 1841 census for Horncastle Lincs and maybe possibly London, hopefully in the Westminster area, if Horncastle fails. Thanks Marlene. ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Photos is now offering a quality print service from just 7p a photo. http://uk.photos.yahoo.com ==== GEN-TRIVIA-ENG Mailing List ==== RANDOM TAGLINE - GEN-TRIVIA-ENG - MAILING LIST Remember - this list is only as good as you, the Lister, make it. If you don't post, then it's no fun at all. :-) -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.3/374 - Release Date: 23/06/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.3/374 - Release Date: 23/06/2006

thanks for your hugs etc. Marlene. She's not going to wait around - in fact when she asked, they told her there was no point as its government contracts and at the very least it will be ages before anything is resolved... Right now her bigger problem is that her car has stopped working - and she has to figure out what's wrong and fix, or get it fixed, before she can do anything too much about job hunting.... mary Marlene Cox wrote: >Sorry to hear about Jac's losing her job, tell her not >to wait for a probable retaking on, get her to ask the >firm for a reference it will show another firm that >she then applies to for a job, that she is willing to >not wait around on a "perhaps" which often is what >people have often done, to their misfortune, she also >has age on her side. >Hope everthing works out quickly for you all. >Special Hugs >Marlene > >`````````````````````````````` > > >>I need a glimpse of the future...... >>just when I thought things were settling down, and >>that the light was >>starting to show at the end of the tunnel - though >>still very distant - >>Jac came home last night feeling rather down. At >>quitting time she & >>the other 2 people taken on in April were all laid >>off - indefinitely. >>I guess the contract which was to bring in the extra >>work has fallen >>through and so the last hired were all laid off with >>very little >>likelihood of being recalled in the near future. >> >> > > > >>So we're back to square one again..... and I'm not >>sure what will happen >>next. Please peek at your crystal ball, if you have >>one, and tell me >>what to do as I am out of ideas... >> >>mary >> >> > > > > >___________________________________________________________ >The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html > > >==== GEN-TRIVIA-ENG Mailing List ==== >RANDOM TAGLINE - GEN-TRIVIA-ENG - MAILING LIST >Keep up to date with the current Rules for this List at - www.trivvies.com > > >

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Sorry to hear about Jac's losing her job, tell her not to wait for a probable retaking on, get her to ask the firm for a reference it will show another firm that she then applies to for a job, that she is willing to not wait around on a "perhaps" which often is what people have often done, to their misfortune, she also has age on her side. Hope everthing works out quickly for you all. Special Hugs Marlene `````````````````````````````` > I need a glimpse of the future...... > just when I thought things were settling down, and > that the light was > starting to show at the end of the tunnel - though > still very distant - > Jac came home last night feeling rather down. At > quitting time she & > the other 2 people taken on in April were all laid > off - indefinitely. > I guess the contract which was to bring in the extra > work has fallen > through and so the last hired were all laid off with > very little > likelihood of being recalled in the near future. > So we're back to square one again..... and I'm not > sure what will happen > next. Please peek at your crystal ball, if you have > one, and tell me > what to do as I am out of ideas... > > mary ___________________________________________________________ The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

Wonder Geo if there was a follow up on this story, ?? Marlene ``````````````````````````````` Geo sent ..... > CAUTION AGAINST GUNPOWDER. - A dreadful accident > took place a few days ago in > the cottage of Jonathan SIMPSON, a miner, at > Haltcliff, near Hesket New-market. > His youngest son having incautiously approached too > near the fire, with a large > quantity of gunpowder in his hand, a dreadful > explosion instantly ensued, which > completely unroofed the house, demolished the front, > and burned most severely > the whole family, consisting of five individuals; > but hopes are entertained of > their recovery. - Carlisle Journal. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Petra > > > ==== GEN-TRIVIA-ENG Mailing List ==== > RANDOM TAGLINE - GEN-TRIVIA-ENG - MAILING LIST > Comparison stories between Countries are always most > welcome. These help to make the list interesting as > well as educational. > > ___________________________________________________________ Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail. "The New Version is radically easier to use" – The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

England's win .. shatters the Oakville area. Up to two hours or so it was a very quiet day around here in Oakville, Lots of families down at our Waterfront Weekend Festival in Coronation Park about 4 miles away. I guessed as it was coming to it's end, and along with the football fans it has become really noisy cars now plying up and down the street with cars flying their flags, most cars in this area have at least one English flag, with another one also attached, and of course as soon as a one of their teams win off they go blaring their hooters which in turn brings out the other cars that are showing their favoured teams the flags of some of the teams are about 2ft by about 18ins being held by shouting and cheering fans out of the most windows or attached on bonnets or the boots, even seen ... heads out of the open part of the roof and one man walking down the road with an even larger flag. Marlene ___________________________________________________________ Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail. "The New Version is radically easier to use" – The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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The Times, Friday, Mar 23, 1866; pg. 11; Issue 25453; col G THE LOSS OF THE LONDON. -------------------------- TO THE EDITOR OF THE TIMES. Sir, - It is not the practice of most great shipowners and companies, including, I believe, Messrs. WIGRAM, to insure their vessels against loss in any of the great marine insurance offices, as it is customary for them to keep up a sort of insurance fund of their own, which provides against the loss of any of their vessels. A few days after the loss of the London I was given to understand by a gentleman connected with a large marine insurance-office that Messrs. WIGRAM had insured the London at his office for a large amount just previous to her departure, in addition to their own insurance fund. Now, if this should prove to be the case, the public have a right to know whether the extra weight of insurance was caused by any fear on the part of Messrs. WIGRAM of the extra weight of her cargo. I am, Sir, ONE WHO HAS SAFELY WEATHERED FOURTEEN HOURS OF A CYCLONE IN AN AUSTRALIAN PACKET SHIP. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Petra

The Times, Tuesday, Mar 20, 1866; pg. 8; Issue 25450; col G LONDON, TUESDAY, MARCH 20, 1866. ---------------------- In the House of Commons [yesterday], [here follows some other Commons business] Sir J. PAKINGTON brought under the notice of the House the mode in which the recent inquiry into the loss of the London was conducted, which he characterized as a mockery and delusion, as far as any future public benefit is concerned. He canvassed Mr. TRAILL's report, contending that the magistrate was wrong in the interpretation of the Act of Parliament by which he justified his refusal to allow counsel to cross-examine the witnesses. He read letters and mentioned various circumstances to show that the inquiry was partial, and assumed the appearance of being intended simply to protect the owners, pointing out that nearly all the witnesses by their connexion with the owners or their previous acts were interested in obtaining an acquittal. After censuring the build of the ship, the manner in which she was loaded and manned, and expressing a strong doubt of the value of the present system of inspection, Sir JOHN concluded by asking the PRESIDENT of the BOARD of TRADE whether he would take the steps necessary to prevent the recurrence of the various shortcomings which he had pointed out. Mr. MILNER GIBSON commenced his reply by drawing from this sad calamity the moral that the present system of inspection relieved the owners from much of the responsibility which would otherwise rest on them. He vindicated the impartiality and the independence of the inquiry, pointing out that it was not in the nature of a prosecution, or intended to determine the rights or liabilities of any parties. While maintaining that there had been no substantial failure of justice in this case, he admitted that the present system of inquiries - though it had done much good - was susceptible of improvement, and intimated that the matter was under consideration. Mr. HENLEY protested against these inquiries being converted into anything in the nature of a trial of parties criminally and civilly liable, but remarked that in this case the inquiry had assumed very much the appearance of a whitewashing affair. He doubted the efficiency of the system of surveys, and contended that ever since the Executive Government had begun to take the mercantile marine under its guidance the number of casualties had increased. Mr. SAMUDA argued against unnecessary Government interference, and censured the refusal to allow the witnesses to be cross-examined. Mr. MAGUIRE condemned the inquiry as utterly inadequate, and recommended the institution of a more efficient tribunal. Mr. O'BEIRNE pointed out defects in the system of inspection. Mr. AYRTON made some observations in defence of the magistrate, and censured Sir J. PAKINGTON for having brought the subject forward without notice to Messrs. MONEY WIGRAM and Co. The discussion was continued by Mr. WEGUELIN and Mr. GRANT. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Petra

Tis brilliant isn't it Pat :) DiDi http://photobucket.com/albums/d100/didi_45 Subject: Re: [TRIVVIES] Hospital visits and foxes I like this bloggo thing - it's a brilliant idea, isn't it ? Good to hear from you again Johno. I'm looking forward to seeing the fox pictures. Good luck in July - you certainly know how to enjoy yourself, don't you ??!!! Pat.xxx :o)) A Maid of Kent, UK. Your county needs YOU !!! http://FreeCEN.rootsweb.com Looking for ancestors in Kent ? Try: http://www.kent-opc.org.uk/ www.lawrence.eastkentgenealogy.co.uk Hello Everyone The new audioblog from Johno is at this link. It is dated 23 June. http://www.connolley.co.uk/Bloggo_de_Johno.htm The link for the fox videos mentioned is here: They are in black and white. They are the last two headings on the page called Alice and the Foxes and Feeding the Foxes. The one with the hedgehog is particularly funny. http://www.onefivenine.info/multimedia/video.html ==== GEN-TRIVIA-ENG Mailing List ==== RANDOM TAGLINE - GEN-TRIVIA-ENG - MAILING LIST Remember - Our "todays" ups & downs of life, are "tomorrows" Ancestral Trivia. ==== GEN-TRIVIA-ENG Mailing List ==== RANDOM TAGLINE - GEN-TRIVIA-ENG - MAILING LIST Remember - this list is only as good as you, the Lister, make it. If you don't post, then it's no fun at all. :-)