The rain you had in Sittingbourne didn't reach as far as Ramsgate. Shaun said it was very wet yesterday when he was at work, but here on the coast, it was beautiful blue skies, hot & sunny. Until midnight !! Then we had a terrific clap of thunder that shook me right out of bed !! The rain gushed down, the thunder was almost right overhead & the lightning lit the room up. It lasted a while & it was wet underfoot this morning, but it's bright & sunny again. Pat.xxx :o)) A Maid of Kent, UK. Your county needs YOU !!! http://FreeCEN.rootsweb.com Looking for ancestors in Kent ? Try: http://www.kent-opc.org.uk/ www.lawrence.eastkentgenealogy.co.uk we've had a fair bit of rain over the last few days...lovely..the garden smells fresh again and my rhododendrons look healthier than they have for weeks, unfortunately so do the weeds LOL hugs to all Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz Graydon" <roots@thegraydons.net> To: <GEN-TRIVIA-ENG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 8:58 PM Subject: RE: [TRIVVIES] A Terrific Storm ... > The other day the centre of Eastbourne got flooded but there was no rain > 10 > miles away in Bexhill, or up here in the north <G>. They said the land > was > so dry that it could not soak up the water and so it stayed on the surface > and the drains could not cope. > > No storms down this way either 'though we did have a little rain at > lunchtime. Our forecast has been the same as Pat's but I think the word > they should have used is "localised" - to whom, I wonder. > > Liz > > > > > Ummmm - it's absolutely baking hot & very sunny down here, Sue. They said > we > were going to have thunderstorms & lots of rain last night, tonight & > tomorrow. > > I wonder if the map they used was upside down . . . . > > Hope there isn't too much damage. > > Pat.xxx :o)) > A Maid of Kent, UK. > Your county needs YOU !!! http://FreeCEN.rootsweb.com > Looking for ancestors in Kent ? Try: http://www.kent-opc.org.uk/ > www.lawrence.eastkentgenealogy.co.uk > > > > ==== GEN-TRIVIA-ENG Mailing List ==== > RANDOM TAGLINE - GEN-TRIVIA-ENG - MAILING LIST > If a subject has already been discussed - there is nothing wrong with > refreshing our memories. Lest we forget. :-) > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.9/417 - Release Date: 11/08/2006 > > ==== GEN-TRIVIA-ENG Mailing List ==== RANDOM TAGLINE - GEN-TRIVIA-ENG - MAILING LIST Remember - Our "todays" ups & downs of life, are "tomorrows" Ancestral Trivia.

we've had a fair bit of rain over the last few days...lovely..the garden smells fresh again and my rhododendrons look healthier than they have for weeks, unfortunately so do the weeds LOL hugs to all Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz Graydon" <roots@thegraydons.net> To: <GEN-TRIVIA-ENG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 8:58 PM Subject: RE: [TRIVVIES] A Terrific Storm ... > The other day the centre of Eastbourne got flooded but there was no rain > 10 > miles away in Bexhill, or up here in the north <G>. They said the land > was > so dry that it could not soak up the water and so it stayed on the surface > and the drains could not cope. > > No storms down this way either 'though we did have a little rain at > lunchtime. Our forecast has been the same as Pat's but I think the word > they should have used is "localised" - to whom, I wonder. > > Liz > > > > > Ummmm - it's absolutely baking hot & very sunny down here, Sue. They said > we > were going to have thunderstorms & lots of rain last night, tonight & > tomorrow. > > I wonder if the map they used was upside down . . . . > > Hope there isn't too much damage. > > Pat.xxx :o)) > A Maid of Kent, UK. > Your county needs YOU !!! http://FreeCEN.rootsweb.com > Looking for ancestors in Kent ? Try: http://www.kent-opc.org.uk/ > www.lawrence.eastkentgenealogy.co.uk > > > > ==== GEN-TRIVIA-ENG Mailing List ==== > RANDOM TAGLINE - GEN-TRIVIA-ENG - MAILING LIST > If a subject has already been discussed - there is nothing wrong with > refreshing our memories. Lest we forget. :-) > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.9/417 - Release Date: 11/08/2006 > >

There is a young lady from the west coast celebrating a Birthday tomorrow, Happy Happy Birthday Wendy Lots of Love and Hugs Dave, Pam and Nikki

Thanks Marlene for passing this on it is very interesting & I am glad at last they have righted the dreadful wrong that was done , it doesn't bear thinking about those POOR men how awful it must have been for them & their Families . Here in New Zealand in the last couple of years they have pardon our men who had met the same fate , it had been a great relief for their Families . CLAIRE Claire Sinclair Paterson Invercargill, New Zealand . On Line Parish Clerk for Cubert, & Crantock Cornwall, UK ( lookups Welcome ) http://mmhamilton.tripod.com (World War 2 ,Story ) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marlene Cox" <marmelade_ca@yahoo.co.uk> To: <GEN-TRIVIA-ENG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 2:21 AM Subject: [TRIVVIES] Executed WW1 Soldiers > Thought I'd pass this on just in case it is of an > interest to any of our Listers. ..... Marlene > > Executed WW1 Soldiers To Be Given Pardons > > Wednesday, August 16, 2006 > > All 306 British first world war soldiers executed for > desertion or cowardice are to be pardoned, Des Browne, > the defence secretary, will announce today. > > For 90 years, families, friends and campaigners for > the young soldiers have argued that their deaths were > a stain on the reputation of Britain and the army. > > In many cases, soldiers were clearly suffering from > shellshock but officers showed no compassion for fear > that their comrades would have disobeyed orders and > refused to go "over the top". > > Mr Browne decided to pardon them mainly on moral > grounds, defence sources said last night. He will say > a grave injustice was done at the time given the > "horrific circumstances" in which they were shot. > One particular case brought to his attention was that > of 25-year-old Private Harry Farr, executed for > cowardice after the battle of the Somme, whose 90th > anniversary was commemorated last month. On October 18 > 1916, after a 20-minute court martial where he > represented himself, he was shot at dawn for > "misbehaving before the enemy in such a manner as to > show cowardice". > > His case was seized on by campaigners seeking a > posthumous pardon for all those executed. Pte Farr's > daughter Gertrude Harris, 93, and his granddaughter, > Janet Booth, 63, sought a judicial review in the high > court to overturn a decision in 1998 by Geoff Hoon, > defence secretary at the time, who argued that there > was no case in law to issue a posthumous pardon. > > Mr Browne - a lawyer like Mr Hoon - has taken a > different view. It would be invidious, indeed > impossible, given the lack of evidence, he believes, > now to distinguish the precise details and > circumstance of each case. He has thus decided that > all the soldiers should be pardoned. > > Defence sources said last night that Mr Browne regards > all of them as victims of the first world war. > Whatever the specific legal and historical > considerations, it was fundamentally a moral issue > which had stigmatised the families involved for more > than a generation, he concluded. > > The only distinction he is likely to make is between > the soldiers shot for cowardice and desertion and > others who were executed for murder. > > The pardons will need a decision by parliament and Mr > Browne is likely to append it to the armed forces bill > on what ministers hope will be a free vote. > > The pardons are also likely to affect former soldiers > from other Commonwealth countries - such as Canada - > and their families now living there. > > John Dickinson of Irwin Mitchell, the Farr family's > lawyer, said last night: "This is complete common > sense and rightly acknowledges that Private Farr was > not a coward, but an extremely brave man. Having > fought for two years practically without respite in > the trenches, he was very obviously suffering from a > condition we now would have no problem in diagnosing > as post-traumatic stress disorder or shellshock as it > was known in 1916." > > Pte Farr's daughter, Gertrude, said: "I am so relieved > that this ordeal is now over and I can be content > knowing that my father's memory is intact. I have > always argued that my father's refusal to rejoin the > frontline, described in the court martial as resulting > from cowardice, was in fact the result of shellshock, > and I believe that many other soldiers suffered from > this, not just my father". > > Pte Farr volunteered for 1st Battalion West Yorkshire > Regiment in 1914. After he was executed, his family > received no military pension and his widow and > daughter were forced out of their house, suffering > financial hardship, stigma and shame. > > Andrew Mackinlay, Labour MP for Thurrock, who has > campaigned for the pardon, welcomed the move last > night and said that public opinion had "moved > remarkably in support of a pardon". > > He said: "All the courts martial were flawed. People > did not have a chance to produce evidence or call > witnesses. Full marks to Des Browne, but the point is > that it has taken the British establishment 90 years." > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail. 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Errrrrrr - The storm we had was a real one Liz - streak after streak of lightning and tons and tons of thunder ---- and a reservoir of water .... Or am I missing something .. ? ..... Sue As long as it is in a teacup?? !!!! Liz Lincolnshire had two tornadoes - so no wonder the storm was a whoozie ... I LOVE a good storm ... Sue ==== GEN-TRIVIA-ENG Mailing List ==== RANDOM TAGLINE - GEN-TRIVIA-ENG - MAILING LIST Keep up to date with the current Rules for this List at - www.trivvies.com

The other day the centre of Eastbourne got flooded but there was no rain 10 miles away in Bexhill, or up here in the north <G>. They said the land was so dry that it could not soak up the water and so it stayed on the surface and the drains could not cope. No storms down this way either 'though we did have a little rain at lunchtime. Our forecast has been the same as Pat's but I think the word they should have used is "localised" - to whom, I wonder. Liz Ummmm - it's absolutely baking hot & very sunny down here, Sue. They said we were going to have thunderstorms & lots of rain last night, tonight & tomorrow. I wonder if the map they used was upside down . . . . Hope there isn't too much damage. Pat.xxx :o)) A Maid of Kent, UK. Your county needs YOU !!! http://FreeCEN.rootsweb.com Looking for ancestors in Kent ? Try: http://www.kent-opc.org.uk/ www.lawrence.eastkentgenealogy.co.uk

As long as it is in a teacup?? !!!! Liz Lincolnshire had two tornadoes - so no wonder the storm was a whoozie ... I LOVE a good storm ... Sue

It reached us at 5.00 pm.... has just cleared up, we were travelling in the car at the time. I love a good storm as long as I'm not walking in it! Gwen > ... Has just gone through our place ... At it's height - you couldn't see > out of the windows - and gutters all around were flooded ... The drains > for > the road couldn't keep up with it - and the road was awash with water ... > Thankfully - this has all gone now - but the thunder is still rumbling > away > - and not I the distance either ... > > And there's a puddle of water in my hall - at the bottom of the stairs ... > > All our windows open 'inwards' - they either drop down a little - or we > can > open them sideways to their full width - 'tilt-'n'-turn' ... Mostly - > unless > the rain is coming sideways - the rain doesn't usually come into the house > . > . BUT - the upstairs landing window decided it was going to allow water in > . > . In it came - onto the window-sill - then overflowing down the wall for a > very short distance - before following the channel afforded it by the > handrail running up the length of the stairs ... It then travelled in this > channel - before falling off the end onto my hall carpet .... > > I hope everyone else is cosy and dry ... > > Sue > > > ==== GEN-TRIVIA-ENG Mailing List ==== > RANDOM TAGLINE - GEN-TRIVIA-ENG - MAILING LIST > Pure Fiction messages are frowned upon - Elephants do not travel in > balloons - please use the Adventure List. >

Lincolnshire had two tornadoes - so no wonder the storm was a whoozie ... I LOVE a good storm ... Sue We had one around 12.30 - 1.30pm, lots of thunder, lightening and torrential rain, the TIC got quite full with people sheltering. I was on my lunch, munching away and trying to finish my book out the back, and it was really dark I had to put the light on. Then the sun came out about 3pm ish and it was lovely until just after 6pm when it started to rain again. Jenny K.

We had one around 12.30 - 1.30pm, lots of thunder, lightening and torrential rain, the TIC got quite full with people sheltering. I was on my lunch, munching away and trying to finish my book out the back, and it was really dark I had to put the light on. Then the sun came out about 3pm ish and it was lovely until just after 6pm when it started to rain again. Jenny K. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trivvie" <trivvie@btinternet.com> To: <GEN-TRIVIA-ENG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [TRIVVIES] A Terrific Storm ... > Thanks Pat --- it calmed down a bit - but is now thundering down with rain > again ... Even the car-port has leaked ... But - even though it's chucking > it down - it's not cold - and certainly not as heavy as it was --- but > we've > sure had a few inches in a very short time ... > > Sue > > > > Ummmm - it's absolutely baking hot & very sunny down here, Sue. They said > we > were going to have thunderstorms & lots of rain last night, tonight & > tomorrow. > > I wonder if the map they used was upside down . . . . > > Hope there isn't too much damage. > > Pat.xxx :o)) > A Maid of Kent, UK. > Your county needs YOU !!! http://FreeCEN.rootsweb.com > Looking for ancestors in Kent ? Try: http://www.kent-opc.org.uk/ > www.lawrence.eastkentgenealogy.co.uk > > > ==== GEN-TRIVIA-ENG Mailing List ==== > RANDOM TAGLINE - GEN-TRIVIA-ENG - MAILING LIST > Keep up to date with the current Rules for this List at - www.trivvies.com > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.9/417 - Release Date: 11/08/2006 > >

I'm in Wheelock nr Crewe at the moment and we had a bit of heavy ish rain an hr ago (7pm) but it's bright and sunny now Hugs John .... mind you, it's very wet under the boat .... thank goodness !!! p.s. sorry to hear you've had the rain on your carpet Sue xxxx Thanks Pat --- it calmed down a bit - but is now thundering down with rain again ... Even the car-port has leaked ... But - even though it's chucking it down - it's not cold - and certainly not as heavy as it was --- but we've sure had a few inches in a very short time ... Sue Ummmm - it's absolutely baking hot & very sunny down here, Sue. They said we were going to have thunderstorms & lots of rain last night, tonight & tomorrow. I wonder if the map they used was upside down . . . . Hope there isn't too much damage. Pat.xxx :o)) A Maid of Kent, UK. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™ Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb

Thanks Pat --- it calmed down a bit - but is now thundering down with rain again ... Even the car-port has leaked ... But - even though it's chucking it down - it's not cold - and certainly not as heavy as it was --- but we've sure had a few inches in a very short time ... Sue Ummmm - it's absolutely baking hot & very sunny down here, Sue. They said we were going to have thunderstorms & lots of rain last night, tonight & tomorrow. I wonder if the map they used was upside down . . . . Hope there isn't too much damage. Pat.xxx :o)) A Maid of Kent, UK. Your county needs YOU !!! http://FreeCEN.rootsweb.com Looking for ancestors in Kent ? Try: http://www.kent-opc.org.uk/ www.lawrence.eastkentgenealogy.co.uk

Ummmm - it's absolutely baking hot & very sunny down here, Sue. They said we were going to have thunderstorms & lots of rain last night, tonight & tomorrow. I wonder if the map they used was upside down . . . . Hope there isn't too much damage. Pat.xxx :o)) A Maid of Kent, UK. Your county needs YOU !!! http://FreeCEN.rootsweb.com Looking for ancestors in Kent ? Try: http://www.kent-opc.org.uk/ www.lawrence.eastkentgenealogy.co.uk ... Has just gone through our place ... At it's height - you couldn't see out of the windows - and gutters all around were flooded ... The drains for the road couldn't keep up with it - and the road was awash with water ... Thankfully - this has all gone now - but the thunder is still rumbling away - and not I the distance either ... And there's a puddle of water in my hall - at the bottom of the stairs ... All our windows open 'inwards' - they either drop down a little - or we can open them sideways to their full width - 'tilt-'n'-turn' ... Mostly - unless the rain is coming sideways - the rain doesn't usually come into the house . . BUT - the upstairs landing window decided it was going to allow water in . . In it came - onto the window-sill - then overflowing down the wall for a very short distance - before following the channel afforded it by the handrail running up the length of the stairs ... It then travelled in this channel - before falling off the end onto my hall carpet .... I hope everyone else is cosy and dry ... Sue ==== GEN-TRIVIA-ENG Mailing List ==== RANDOM TAGLINE - GEN-TRIVIA-ENG - MAILING LIST Pure Fiction messages are frowned upon - Elephants do not travel in balloons - please use the Adventure List.

And a 'grave injustice' was done to the 7 year old who was sent to Australia for LIFE - purely because he was starving and stole something to eat ... Them were different times - with different rules - and we should leave well alone ... We can't alter History - and we should be grateful that we don't have the same 'rules' today .. If those deserters hadn't of been 'dealt-with' - what message would it have given those men who were willing to carry on - willing to sacrifice their lives for the good of their country .. ? .... It mattered not a jot that they were suffering from "stress" ---- weren't ALL the men suffering from the same 'stress' .. ? .... Offering a pardon - does not say these men were innocent of their crimes .. It's a blanket pardon - for lack of being able to sort the 'good' from the bad' ... It means nothing - nothing except that we might now have to pay all the back pensions ... Ummm ..... Sue Who is now shutting up .... Thought I'd pass this on just in case it is of an interest to any of our Listers. ..... Marlene Executed WW1 Soldiers To Be Given Pardons Wednesday, August 16, 2006 All 306 British first world war soldiers executed for desertion or cowardice are to be pardoned, Des Browne, the defence secretary, will announce today. For 90 years, families, friends and campaigners for the young soldiers have argued that their deaths were a stain on the reputation of Britain and the army. In many cases, soldiers were clearly suffering from shellshock but officers showed no compassion for fear that their comrades would have disobeyed orders and refused to go "over the top". Mr Browne decided to pardon them mainly on moral grounds, defence sources said last night. He will say a grave injustice was done at the time given the "horrific circumstances" in which they were shot. One particular case brought to his attention was that of 25-year-old Private Harry Farr, executed for cowardice after the battle of the Somme, whose 90th anniversary was commemorated last month. On October 18 1916, after a 20-minute court martial where he represented himself, he was shot at dawn for "misbehaving before the enemy in such a manner as to show cowardice". His case was seized on by campaigners seeking a posthumous pardon for all those executed. Pte Farr's daughter Gertrude Harris, 93, and his granddaughter, Janet Booth, 63, sought a judicial review in the high court to overturn a decision in 1998 by Geoff Hoon, defence secretary at the time, who argued that there was no case in law to issue a posthumous pardon. Mr Browne - a lawyer like Mr Hoon - has taken a different view. It would be invidious, indeed impossible, given the lack of evidence, he believes, now to distinguish the precise details and circumstance of each case. He has thus decided that all the soldiers should be pardoned. Defence sources said last night that Mr Browne regards all of them as victims of the first world war. Whatever the specific legal and historical considerations, it was fundamentally a moral issue which had stigmatised the families involved for more than a generation, he concluded. The only distinction he is likely to make is between the soldiers shot for cowardice and desertion and others who were executed for murder. The pardons will need a decision by parliament and Mr Browne is likely to append it to the armed forces bill on what ministers hope will be a free vote. The pardons are also likely to affect former soldiers from other Commonwealth countries - such as Canada - and their families now living there. John Dickinson of Irwin Mitchell, the Farr family's lawyer, said last night: "This is complete common sense and rightly acknowledges that Private Farr was not a coward, but an extremely brave man. Having fought for two years practically without respite in the trenches, he was very obviously suffering from a condition we now would have no problem in diagnosing as post-traumatic stress disorder or shellshock as it was known in 1916." Pte Farr's daughter, Gertrude, said: "I am so relieved that this ordeal is now over and I can be content knowing that my father's memory is intact. I have always argued that my father's refusal to rejoin the frontline, described in the court martial as resulting from cowardice, was in fact the result of shellshock, and I believe that many other soldiers suffered from this, not just my father". Pte Farr volunteered for 1st Battalion West Yorkshire Regiment in 1914. After he was executed, his family received no military pension and his widow and daughter were forced out of their house, suffering financial hardship, stigma and shame. Andrew Mackinlay, Labour MP for Thurrock, who has campaigned for the pardon, welcomed the move last night and said that public opinion had "moved remarkably in support of a pardon". He said: "All the courts martial were flawed. People did not have a chance to produce evidence or call witnesses. Full marks to Des Browne, but the point is that it has taken the British establishment 90 years." ___________________________________________________________ Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail. "The New Version is radically easier to use" – The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ==== GEN-TRIVIA-ENG Mailing List ==== RANDOM TAGLINE - GEN-TRIVIA-ENG - MAILING LIST Before you sent your mail - Please cut out as much of previous messages as is appropriate - and Please change the Subject Line if the Topic has changed.

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... Has just gone through our place ... At it's height - you couldn't see out of the windows - and gutters all around were flooded ... The drains for the road couldn't keep up with it - and the road was awash with water ... Thankfully - this has all gone now - but the thunder is still rumbling away - and not I the distance either ... And there's a puddle of water in my hall - at the bottom of the stairs ... All our windows open 'inwards' - they either drop down a little - or we can open them sideways to their full width - 'tilt-'n'-turn' ... Mostly - unless the rain is coming sideways - the rain doesn't usually come into the house . . BUT - the upstairs landing window decided it was going to allow water in . . In it came - onto the window-sill - then overflowing down the wall for a very short distance - before following the channel afforded it by the handrail running up the length of the stairs ... It then travelled in this channel - before falling off the end onto my hall carpet .... I hope everyone else is cosy and dry ... Sue

Posted with permission of the transcriber, Barb. Baker. If anyone is going to give this a try, I suggest they use a plastic watering can. Salt and metal don't go well together so you would need to be sure a metal can was very well flushed after use. Even galvanised metal will corrode if there is any discontinuity, e.g. around seams. Geo. A CHEAP GRUB-KILLER. Cauliflowers, brocolis, and other brassicaceous plants are generally much infested with grubs at this season. To clear them off, remarks the "Gardener's Magazine", is an easier task than it appears. Dissolve a coffee-cup of salt in hop [hot? Geo.] water, then put it into a common-sized watering-pan [can? Geo.], and fill up with cold water. Just give each plant a gentle switch over with this mixture, and they will all disappear in a moment, and the salt and water will nourish the plants wonderfully; all greens are fond of salt and water. Some people would be afraid of killing their cauliflowers; but it must be borne in mind that the salt and water will not penetrate the leaves; it runs off to the roots, killing every caterpillar in the way. ____________________________________________________________

Posted with permission of the transcriber, Barb Baker. Geo. A RELIC OF THE ANGLO-AMERICAN WAR. Previous to the 20th of October, 1777 (says the "Philadelphia Post"), the British vessels "Roebuck" of 44 guns; "Merlin" of 18 guns, and a galley of three guns were blockading the Deleware River and gradually approaching Philadelphia. At that time the Americans had but two vessels - the "Wasp" and the "Lexington" -- in that vicinity, and both were below the British ships and were of too inferior an order to make an attack upon their adversaries. To prevent the British ships reaching the city, a fort was erected on the Jersey shore, just above Woodbury Creek, and a "chevaux de frise" was so constructed that the vessels could not pass beyond it. It extended out from Hog Island, and a large number of bulks were sunk as a sort of protection to this barrier. On the 20th of October, the British made an attack upon the fortifications, both by land and water, the land forces being commanded by GENERAL DANUPE. The commander of the colonial forces in Philadelphia let loose twelve fire ships, and by this means succeeded in driving the attacking party back down the river. On the 22nd of October, the British were reinforced by the arrival of the "Augusta", carrying 64 guns. They made a second attack. They met resistance from the guns at the fort and also from the American galley "Chatham", COMMANDER HAZLEWOOD, and twelve other galleys. After a long fight the Americans succeeded in driving off the British vessels. The "Augusta", being of an unwieldy size, grounded. No sooner had the Americans discovered this than they opened fire on her with hot shot, the result being that she was set on fire in several places. So rapidly did the flames burn, that of her crew of 300 men, 150 either drowned or burned. The remainder were picked up by the tenders of the colonial fleet. The "Augusta" not only carried her own armament, but had on board a number of guns and a large number of balls, which were intended for vessels fitting out on this side of the ocean. She was a new vessel, and that trip her first and last. She has laid imbedded in the mud until within two years back, when a party of five men determined to attempt to raise the wreck, being stimulated thereto by the supposition of there being a quantity of specie. Their names are JAMES POWELL, JOSEPH MOORE, GEORGE MURPHY, GABRIEL SHAPELY, and CHARLES MYERS. Since that time they have laboured continually, and now, after expending over 4,000 dollars and their time, their efforts have been rewarded, and the wreck has been moved up as far as Gloucester, where the greater portion can be seen any day at low tide. Within the past few days, a number of relics have been recovered, among them a lot of sterling silver spoons, marked "H.W., 1748", with a coat of arms consisting of an ancient-shaped cross, an old English bull's-eye watch, seven guinea pieces, bearing the vignette of GEORGE III, and with dates ranging from 1760 to 1770; some Spanish silver dollars, three guns of heavy calibre, which now lie on the beach at Red Bank; about 60 tons weight of balls and about 100 tons of Kentlidge iron, which had evidently been used as ballast. The iron is in square pigs, and bears the old English brand - an arrow head. Three human skulls have also been found, one of which is remarkable for its thickness. There has also been found a small piece or strip of copper, almost three inches in length and one inch in thickness, upon which is stamped the Lord's Prayer, with the words, "DAVID PYETH, Delt. and Cult., Edinburgh, March 1774", the lettering being all in capitals. The vessel had been constructed of Irish oak and joined together with trunnels of the same material, not a single metal bolt being used. The timber is to-day pronounced as good as when put together. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

Posted with permission of the transcriber, 'Ann' Geo. SICKNESS & POVERTY IN Nineteenth Century Whitehaven. SUSPECTED CHOLERA. On Saturday morning two cases of very sudden death, which have been generally attributed to Cholera, occurred in our harbour; the following are such particulars as we have been able to collect. The Union, a small fishing boat belonging to Allonby, was in Maryport on Tuesday last, having two men and a boy on board. On that day one of the men attended this market with fish, and the other attended Wigton market. Both men returned to Maryport much intoxicated. On Wednesday they sailed with their boat for the coast of Scotland, and on that morning one of them began to be affected with purging which gradually increased in severity. When in Scotland they both drank whiskey very freely. Early on Friday morning they left Innerwell in Galloway for this port, with a quantity of salmon on board, and about seven o'clock the man who had begun to be ill on Wednesday and had been gradually getting worse, was affected by violent spasms in his limbs, and occasional vomiting, the purging conti! nued unabated. About eleven o'clock on the same forenoon, the other man began to be affected in a similar manner to his companion. The boat arrived in our harbour at about two on Saturday morning, and about three the first man died, and the other continued getting rapidly worse. The lad then got on shore and roused the inmates of a public house on the quay, and the assistance of Mr. WYLIE, surgeon, was obtained, though not until it was too late for assistance to be of any avail. Mr. W. took the most effectual means to arrest the disease, but the unfortunate person died about seven o'clock. Mr. BROWN, the guardian of the poor and Mr. SAWYERS, the Comptroller of the Customs, as soon as they learned of the occurrence, lost no time in taking the proper steps. The bodies were enclosed with quick lime, in shells, and interred in trinity Church yard by eleven o'clock. The boat which was described to us as disgustingly filthy, was thoroughly cleaned, and being stored with provisions and water, was by the same hour under sail for the Quarantine Station at Liverpool, under the care of three men who volunteered their services for that purpose. The names of the victims were John HESKET and William JOHNSTON. The escape of the boy was remarkable, and can be attributed to no cause but his exemption from the excesses, which must undoubtedly have been the exciting cause of the disease, which terminated the existence of his elder companions. We are happy to state that we have heard of no similar cases either on board the shipping in the harbour, or in the town; but we trust that if a similar event should unfortunately occur, our townsmen will refrain from crowding down to the quay, and above all things, from going on board any vessel where such suspected cases may happen to be; their presence cannot possibly be of any service; and should the disease be really infectious, might be the means of serious mischief.

Posted with permission of the transcriber, 'Ann' Geo. SICKNESS & POVERTY IN Nineteenth Century Whitehaven. TO THE EDITORS OF THE WHITEHAVEN GAZETTE. ________ Gentlemen, - Permit me through the medium of your paper to call the attention of the proper authorities to a circumstance which has occasioned considerable alarm to the inhabitants of this town, particularly to those in the neighbourhood of the Ginns. It has already been publicly stated that a contagious disorder (the name of which is not precisely ascertained) is unhappily raging in St. Bees; and upwards of twenty patients suffering under this unknown malady, it is said, were removed in carts on Friday and Saturday last to the House of Recovery in this town. I doubt not the persons who advised this measure are prepared to support it by what they conceive satisfactory reasons; but as many cogent arguments are generally entertained against it, I shall briefly allude to a few of them, rather with a view to promote discussion than to hurt the feelings of the parties concerned. It has been the invariable practice of all wise and good men to use every precaution to arrest the progress of contagious disease; and it was on this principle that the Legislature enacted the quarantine laws, compelling vessels suspected of infection to forbear intercourse or commerce for the space of forty days, or otherwise, as circumstances seem to require. Now it is urged that, on this principle, the patients ought not to have been removed from St. Bees where the air is salubrious, to the Ginns where the air is bad; but that a Barn or a House near the Coast of St. Bees (in a retired place) should have been fitted up as a temporary House of Recovery, rather than put the lives of a populous town to hazard, and run the risk of spreading the disorder by sea and land, in consequence of removing the sufferers to this town. I do not suppose that this measure was adopted to suit the convenience of medical attendants, or to save expense, because I do not believe the faculty woul! d act upon such narrow minded considerations, or that the friends of humanity would grumble to pay what is essential to the recovery of their fellow creatures, and the safety of the community. My motive in thus addressing you, Messrs. Editors, is to induce those who are better acquainted with the subject than myself, to appease the public mind by proving the necessity of the measure which has given rise to such general uneasiness. Whitehaven, Dec. 4. 1820