Posted with permission of the transcriber, 'Ann'. Geo. SICKNESS & POVERTY IN Nineteenth Century Whitehaven. # 46-A. INCREASED POOR RATES. ______ To the EDITOR of the CUMBERLAND PACQUET. Sir, - I perceive it has become a matter of dispute between you and your contemporary whether or not the new system of managing the poor is more expensive than the old one - or, in other words, whether the new law or the old one are more economical in their operations. At the time when the new poor law was first introduced into this town, we were told much about its economy, which would be found so advantageous to the rate-payer, and its superior management, which would prove so beneficial, and would so much increase the comforts of the poor. These benefits, I fearlessly state, have not yet been conferred upon the inmates of our Union, and the advantages resulting from the economy of the new law have not yet been felt by the rate-payer. It is a well-known fact in Whitehaven, that under the old system the condition and management of the poor were everything that could be wished for - that the poor, under the management of Mr. BROWN, were so orderly, comfortable and cleanly, - and withal, managed with so much economy - that not a ground for complaint existed, even in the minds of the most scrupulous. In this respect, then, there has been no improvement or advantage gained by the introduction of the new poor law. In fact, there was no room for improvement; therefore, so far as the physical and moral condition of the poor is concerned, there has been no change, and matters with them remain status quo. Then as no advantage has been gained by the poor, (and I defy all logic of your contemporary and his abettors, - for I know he has abettors, but more of them anon, - to prove that the poor have derived any benefit whatever from the introduction of the new law into Whitehaven,) let us enquire what the introduction ! of the new system has done for the ratepayer. Has it been the means of lessening his burthens? Because, if it has not, and the poor have derived no benefit from the change, I may fairly challenge any advocate for the new law to assign any other reason for its introduction into this town, where both ratepayers and the poor were previously satisfied, than the mere charm of novelty, - or that restless love of change upon which I would charge a large portion of those follies and inconsistencies which in every age have marked the human conduct. Then with respect to the former condition of the rate-payers. Having disposed of the poor in a way that sets all contradiction, either from your contemporary or from any other quarter, at defiance, I must have a word with him on the subject of the rates now collected. I suppose the Editor of the Herald will not dispute with me that the whole of the rates collected by the overseers are ever farthing expended - swallowed up, to a great extent, even before they are collected. But in order to secure myself on this point, I will at once state the well known fact, that the present overseers, as well as those who preceded them, have more than once given security to the Treasurer of the Union for the advancement of money till it could be collected from the rates; therefore on this ground I stand secure enough. I shall now proceed to show that more money, under the name of poor rates, (a very questionable name I admit), has been collected since the establishment of the Poor Law Union in this town than used to be collected prior to the introduction of the New Law. In doing this sir, I am aware that I am taking upon my self a task of supererogation - a task which every old resident in this town could have performed as well as myself. To be continued.

Posted with permission of the transcriber, 'Ann'. Geo. SICKNESS & POVERTY IN Nineteenth Century Whitehaven. # 45. THE POOR LAW COMMISSIONERS Versus THE POOR. _____ The poor-law commissioners, who really seem more destitute of humanity than any other men, are apparently afraid lest the poor under their control should fare too sumptuously in the Bastiles, where their allowance of food is a degree or two above the starvation point, and have consequently put their veto upon any extra food, either in quantity or quality, being supplied to the inmates of workhouses by Guardians of the Unions, on Christmas Days, or on any festive occasions. "The Three Kings of Somerset House," in March last, thus issued their Royal Mandate: - POOR-LAW COMMISSION OFFICE, SOMERSET HOUSE, MARCH 18, 1840. EXPENSES OF CHRISTMAS DINNERS IN WORKHOUSES. Sir, - The Poor-Law Commissioners have perceived that on Christmas days, and other recent festive occasions, the guardians of various unions have provided for the inmates of the workhouses dinners which both in quantity and quality of food, and in its cost, have greatly exceeded the usual diet of the workhouse inmates, and even of many of the less prosperous portion of the ratepayers. The commissioners admit that they are very unwilling to interfere with the proceedings, owing to their respect for the motives which have given rise to them. The commissioners, however, cannot but perceive the injustice of applying the proceeds of the compulsory tax , raised only to relieve destitution, to provide for the inmates of a workhouse luxuries which are beyond the reach of those by whom the tax is paid. They have, therefore, determined to give positive instructions to their auditor, to disallow in the accounts and expenditure which shall henceforth have been incurred in the extra allowance which shall be furnished on the occasion above alluded to. The commissioners have only to add, that where the indulgencies above mentioned are supplied to the inmates of the workhouse at the expense of private individuals, the question assumes altogether a different form, and strictly ____? To nary occasions, seems not to require the interference of the commissioners. Signed, by the order of the Board, Edwin CHADWICK, Secretary to the Poor-Law Commissioners. These Poor-Law Commissioners know as little of the English character as they do of the wants and feelings of the poor themselves, if they for a moment imagine that the humblest rate-payer in the realm would begrudge the inmates of the Union Workhouse a good substantial dinner at the season of festivity when the hearts of so many of the humble poor are made to rejoice through the bounty of their benevolent and more opulent neighbors. This mawkish love of economy comes with bad grace from such a quarter. We would inform the commissioners that it is not the expense of an extra dinner once a year to the poor that any rate-payer would object; but the rate-payers throughout the land do object to the salaries of useless - nay worse than useless - commissioners, assistant commissioners, clerks, and the long train of etcetera, who are required to keep the lumbering machinery of the poor law in operation. To be continued....

Posted with permission of the transcriber, 'Ann'. Geo. SICKNESS & POVERTY IN Nineteenth Century Whitehaven. # 44. OUT - DOOR RELIEF. ____ TO THE EDITOR OF THE CUMBERLAND PACQUET. Sir, - I am aware that in making the slightest allusion to anything in the shape of abuse, impropriety, or mismanagement, under the New Poor Law, I am setting my foot upon a Hornet's Nest, and that the sensitive nerves of the advocates of that ill-fated and unpopular measure will be more irritated then would be the busy little insects to which I have alluded. However, as I am an advocate for improvement, and anxious to remedy abuses wherever I see them exist, I cannot allow the feelings of such sensitive beings as those to whom I have alluded, to stand in my way. I was one of those who felt pretty sanguine at the commencement of the present mis-spent session that the Poor Law Bill would have undergone considerable modifications. I grounded my opinion upon the promises made by the Lord John RUSSELL himself; and when I saw that that testimony was borne out by so many hon. Members, who alluded to repeated instances of hardships and oppression which had come under their own individual notice as magistrates, I felt strengthened in the opinion I so earnestly entertained, that the situation of the poor subject to the operations of such a grinding and oppressive measure power as to its extent; and that the cruel and revolting feature of the bill, the denial of relief to the widows left with young families, unless the mother broke up her little establishment, abandoned home, and accompanied her family to the union workhouse, would have been in some degree ameliorated. I could also have much wished, for the sake of the English character that the senators of Britain in the course of the present mischievous parliament (by far the most mischievous of any upon record) had altered this and other parts of the bill equally objectionable. However, after the shuffling and evasive conduct of Lord John RUSSELL, through which the consideration of the measure was put off till almost the eleventh hour of the session; and the manner in which every attempt to ameliorate the cruel measure was treated by ministers, both collectively and individually, but little hope could be entertained, by even the most sanguine, of the bill under going a consideration favorable to the interests of the poor. The bad feeling and worse taste displayed by ministers themselves, at every attempt at mitigation, come from whatever quarter it might, was not calculated to impress the country with any very exalted view of humanity of the House of Commons, and the opposition displa! yed on all occasions by the ministry came with a peculiarly bad grace from men pluming themselves on popularity of their measures, and professing so high a regard for interests of the poor. Now, with regard to the subject of out-door relief, I can state that such is the severe and unworkable nature of the New Poor Law that it is oftener violated through necessity of out-door relief being given in money, but also the folly and injustice of giving such relief in kind. A poor woman, who was allowed a ticket by Whitehaven union to procure food for herself and her family, to the amount of two shillings weekly, one week got an order for one shilling's worth of groceries, and a shilling in cash. Having during the same week, been employed by a grocer, she was partly compelled to take her wages in kind; and had therefore no use for the shillings worth of goods which she obtained for her ticket, she therefore sold them for eight pence, and though they were all that the poor woman got for her shilling ticket, they were considered dear enough at two-thirds of that sum! This circumstance clearly proves two very material things, namely, that it is both better and cheaper to give relief to a certain extent, than to take a whole family of children, parents and all, into a workhouse; and secondly, that where the out-door relief is given, it is better to use discretion and give it in money than in kind, because it will at least make 30 per cent. Difference to the poor creatures who have to lay it out, as in the case I have mentioned, and others that I could mention, very clearly prove. There can be no question but that any poor person would be able to make a much more economical use of the money than they could of a ticket or of an order, binding them to certain tradesmen, and to take out the amount of goods of such a quality as he might think proper to give. It is creditable to the humanity of those guardians who disregard the griping provisions of the law and give out-door relief, and I trust that what I have here stated will induce those guardians who give out-door relief, to give it in the most advantageous way possible to the pauper - in money. - I am &c., A FRIEND TO THE POOR Vicinity of Whitehaven, August 24, 1839 ________

Posted with permission of the transcriber, 'Ann'. Geo. SICKNESS & POVERTY IN Nineteenth Century Whitehaven. # 43. THE POOR LAW GUARDIANS AND THEIR CONTRACTS. _________ TO THE EDITOR OF THE CUMBERLAND PACQUET. Sir, - You have often thought proper to censure the New Poor Law, and to point out many hardships consequent upon its operation; but you have not yet noticed the conduct of the guardians of the Whitehaven Union, whose treatment of the tradesmen of this town I deem anything but fair and straightforward. It appears that amongst the tradesmen the guardians have their favorites, and in providing for the wants of the poor, their orders are liberally bestowed upon them to the exclusion of those who may not happen to have a friend in Court, or to be a favourite of the Board. Now, I think you will agree with me that this is decidedly wrong upon two grounds. First, it is unfair towards tradesmen who are overlooked by the guardians in the dispensation of their favors; and in the second place, it is not exactly an act of justice to the rate-payer to adopt a close system of dealing. In my opinion the contracts ought to be made public for all kinds of necessaries supplied to the Union; but such is not the case. The butcher's meat, for instance, is supplied by two or three persons in that line of business, and of this I think that, along with many others, I have a right to complain. The guardians cannot excuse themselves by saying that they are better or cheaper served with meat by those with whom they deal than they would be by others, if they choose to divide their custom. I hope, sir, that these remarks on the exclusive dealings of the guardians will be the means of inducing them to extend or divide their orders in the future. If they don't, you may depend upon hearing from me again. - I am, sir, your's to the backbone, John GULLY Shambles, August 23, 1839. ___________________

Posted with permission of the transcriber, 'Ann'. The Workhouse inmates didn't have much to survive on did they? No wonder Oliver Twist asked for more. So far as I can tell the ration for males and females was the same but I seem to recall seeing a similar such list some time ago where women received less than men. I think that might have been in Essex. I found the sidebar comments amusing; On Wednesday the potatoes are mashed and on Saturday 'With the 2oz. of peas, oatmeal and vegetables are promised. We have carefully examined Mrs. Glass's Cookery, but this dainty of the Commissioners appears to have been unknown to that experienced lady.' No indication as to whether the 'promise' was ever honoured and I wouldn't mind betting that the 'dainty' was even less well known to the Commissioners than to Mrs. Glass. I also doubt very much that the Workhouse cooks, assuming they could read, ever bothered to consult Mrs. Glass's Cookery book anyway. <g> Geo. SICKNESS & POVERTY IN Nineteenth Century Whitehaven. # 41. THE COCKERMOUTH FAMINE BOARD. We have all along contended that the Poor Law Amendment Act was a cruel, harsh, and tyrannical measure, and that the poor under its provisions were left entirely at the mercy of the commissioners or guardians, both with respect to raiment, food and treatment; therefore, we properly ( ? ), if the Guardians are humane men the poor will be benefited, if they are not the situation of the pauper may be trult deplorable. The principle object of the Bill appears to us, as to many others, to be to find the lowest point of subsistence at which human nature can exist, and to feed sumptuously a horde of hungry Whigs. We have been favored with a copy of the diet-table for able bodied men and women in the Cockermouth Union, and we transfer it to our columns in order that every reader may judge for himself how he thinks the commissioners have approached the point of starvation by the establishment of a systematic famine board in that union. It needs not one word of comment; but we cannot refrain from calling the attention of the Rev. H. THOMPSON and other apologists and defenders of the bastile system, to this inhuman and abominable mode of starving the poor. We ask Mr. THOMPSON if he does not now see that the administration of the poor law; as we told him in reply to his letter some weeks ago, may be made whatever the guardians will it to be - that it may be merciful and humane at Ulverston and tyrannical and oppressive elsewhere. Instead of being well fed and clothed, as Mr. THOMPSON maintains the paupers are at Ulverston, he will discover that at Cockermouth the daily food of an able bodied pauper is barely sufficient to keep the body and soul together; and there is no account of any wine, which he told us was given to paupers who required it in the Ulverston Union. Without further comment however, we submit the dietary table to the perusal of the reader: - Sorry, I had to delete the table as it was an embedded image which rootsweb will not accept. It should be OK on the SmartGroups page though. Geo.

Posted with permission of the transcriber, 'Ann'. Geo. SICKNESS & POVERTY IN Nineteenth Century Whitehaven. # 40. THE UNION WORKHOUSE. They've built a house on yonder slopes, Huge, grim, and prison-like and dull, With grated walls that shut out hope, And cells, of wretched paupers full. And they, if we for help should call, Will thither take and lodge us thus; But Ellen , no! - their prison wail, I swear it! Was not built for US. We've lived together fourteen years Three boys and four sweet girls are ours; Our life hath had its hopes and fears, Its autumn blights and summer flowers. But ever with determined front, And heart that scorned in ill to bow, Have we sustained misfortune's brunt; We never quailed - nor will we now! Our eldest hope - our Sally - she Who loves to steal from work to books, O God! In yon Bastile to see The sweetness of her modest looks! And Esty, who La** Little mind For books when there is work or play, Her little heart would burst, to find The same dull prison every day. His father's picture, too, my Bob, My double both in head and heart - And Bill, whom it were sin to rob Of his red cheek and emulous part- And Fanny, with her craftiness - And Jack, that screams so very low - Shall they assume the prison dress? - My dear, my dear, they shall not go! They shall not go - to pine apart, Forgetting kindredship and home, To lose each impulse of the heart That binds us wheresoe'er we roam. And we, whom God and love made one, Who man and law would disunite, We will not, famine's death to shun, Sleep there, or wake, a single night! Still is their law in something mild: Though I no more must share your rest, They would permit your infant child To tug at an exhausted breast! And Jack would cease at night to scream, Awed by some keeper's rod and threat; While, sunk in cribs, the rest would dream Of days too well remembered yet! Away! - On ENGLAND's soil we stand; Our means have erst supplied the poor: We have claims on our Fatherland! - No, no - the right is ours no more. But we will die a beggar's death Rather than pass their hated wall. - On some free hill breath out our breath, One nameless grave receiving all ! ______________________

Posted with permission of the transcriber, 'Ann'. 'Sickness & Poverty in Nineteenth Century Whitehaven' is a series of articles which Ann has transcribed in 67 parts. I have already posted a few of the more interesting (to my mind) passages but if anyone wants to read the entire transcription it will soon be available on the Cumberland and Westmorland Newspaper Transcriptions site at; http://tinyurl.com/nkhym Geo. SICKNESS & POVERTY IN Nineteenth Century Whitehaven. # 39 THE NEW POOR LAWS. The Memorial agreed to at a public meeting of the Ratepayers of this township, held at the Workhouse on the 9th inst. Is now lying for signature, we perceive, at the several booksellers shops in this Town. Annexed is a copy of the document: - To the Poor Law Commissioners for England and Wales. The memorial of the undersigned rated Inhabitants of the Township of Whitehaven, in the Parish of Saint Bees, in the County of Cumberland. Your Memorialists state that the affairs of the Poor in the said Township have been managed hitherto by four overseers of the Poor, a Visitor, a Guardian, assisted by a Committee of fifteen other rated Inhabitants, elected at a Public Meeting of the Ratepayers held annually on the 25th day March, at the Workhouse, in the Township of Whitehaven, being a district formed under the 22nd Geo. III, c. 83, and Public Notice given, so that all parties may attend and protect their rights. That in and previous to 1820 the Poor Rates of the Township amounted to about 6,000/ annually, and since that period the same have been reduced to 2,100/ on an average of the last three years, thus exhibiting a strong ans irresistible proof that the rates have been administered with economy. As respects out-door Paupers no relief to able bodied Paupers has been given this class of persons on applying for relief being offered work, and the result is that no burden has fallen on the township from the able bodied Paupers; the only out-door relief given is that which is afforded to fatherless children, and in cases of accident and temporary illness. The Whitehaven Workhouse is divided into wards, the occupants being able to work are kept in employment, and their earnings for the last year amounted to 117/., and nothing more can be obtained from the labour of the resident paupers. The Township of Whitehaven contains a population of nearly 16,000 persons, and the proposed Union, comprising a district including 29 parishes with a population of not more than 40,000 persons, would be a grievance of which your Memorialists have a right to complain, for the cost of carrying into operation the proposed measure of forming a Union of twenty-nine parishes will subject the Township of Whitehaven to the payment of nearly, if not quite, one half of the increased charges. Your Memorialists further state, that if they should be compelled to form the proposed Union the increased expense which will fall on the Township of Whitehaven will not be short of 4,000/ annually, and before you sanction such a change your Memorialists feel assured you will take into consideration the extreme hardship of subjecting them to such increased expenditure, when the present management is satisfactory both to the ratepayers and the poor. Influenced by these considerations your Memorialists request you will allow them to continue to manage the affairs of the poor of the Township of Whitehaven as has been done for many years.

Posted with permission of the transcriber, Barb. Baker. Geo. POACHERS. On Saturday night, the 7th instant, MR. HUNT, head gamekeeper to the RIGHT HON. ROBERT PEEL, of Lulworth Castle, received information that a body of poachers intended that night to enter his master's plantations. Immediately summoning his assistants, twelve in number, he awaited their arrival; and between eleven and twelve o'clock the discharge of several guns announced their near approach. MR. HUNT, on challenging them, was answered by a person who appeared to act as leader, who said, "We are five and thirty strong, and are for death or glory; but we will not use fire-arms, unless your party fire first." Turning to his men, he then threatened to shoot the first who left the field, and placing them in military array, a general fight ensued. Both parties were armed with clubs and swingels (instruments used by poachers, and resembling flails). After a combat of 20 minutes, the poachers retreated, leaving behind them several pheasants which they had killed, but taking away the keeper's valuable double-barrelled gun. Each poacher was distinguished by a white handkerchief round his hat. MR. HUNT was much hurt, and all his men more or less bruised. An account being transmitted to MR. PEEL, BISHOP, the officer, was sent down, and five of the poachers are in custody. Most of the gang lived 12 or 14 miles distant. Some desperate encounters have taken place lately in Norfolk, between Poachers and Keepers. LORD BAYNING's watch, at Honingham, a short time since, very boldly attacked a gang of poachers, and two of them were terribly beaten. Two of the watch came up with three of the poachers in a lane, who fled their approach. The poachers, it seems, took some pea-makes from a neighbouring farm as weapons; these were left in the morning, with the events of the night before related in rhyme, attached to them. The hand-writing is said to be that of a well-known female associate. Since this affair, the poachers have assembled in such numbers, as they think defy opposition. On Friday night they visited the Cossey Woods (the seat of SIR GEORGE JERNINGHAM, Bart.) in force. They prosecuted their depredations in the most daring manner, beginning to shoot as early as 11 o'clock, and so near the house that the flashes of the guns were distinctly seen from the windows. Six and forty shots were successively counted in one wood in about an hour and half. The keepers assembled the watch, but aided principally by the darkness of the night, the poachers escaped without being attacked. Five poachers were detected on the night of Monday se'nnight, by the EARL OF LONSDALE's gamekeepers, close to the gardens at Lowther Castle, departing with their booty. Three immediately ran off and escaped, but the other two were taken, after a severe conflict in which one of the gamekeepers was wounded; they both belong to Penrith, and are companions of a former one recently committed to Appleby gaol for the same offence, and to where they were likewise sent on Tuesday, and will take their trials at the spring assizes. ==============================================

Posted with permission of the transcriber, Barb. Baker. Geo. THE TIMES, Friday, January 14, 1853 BURIED ALIVE. A fatal catastrophe has just occurred in the town of Brampton (Cumberland). Two men were buried alive - one named GEORGE PRINGLE, from Carlisle, and the other GEORGE TAYLOR, a Brampton man. They were engaged on Monday afternoon in re-sinking an old well at Brampton workhouse, and when at the depth of about 25 feet below the surface, the whole of the earth rushed in from the sides and top upon the two poor fellows who were working at the bottom. This was about a quarter to 3 o'clock on Monday afternoon. The alarm was immediately given, crowds rushed to the spot, and, hopeless as the case looked, preparations were immediately commenced to dig the men out. This was necessarily very slow work, as the shaft required to be framed by joiner-work, as they proceeded downwards throwing out the earth. Such a scene has never before been witnessed in this neighbourhood. All night long, relays of men worked by torchlight and the blaze of tar barrels, and the workhouse standing on a hill-top, visible far and wide, the light attracted people from the country around, numbers of whom flocked to the scene, fancying that there was a fire. About midnight, and long after all hope had been given up of getting either of the men out alive, the most intense excitement was produced by the workmen, who were digging their way laboriously through what appeared a bank of solid earth, declaring that they could hear a voice some depth below. The men, many of whom were TAYLOR's fellow workmen and companions, gave a loud cheer, which was caught up and repeated by the crowd outside. By almost super-human exertions they reached a depth of about 20 feet by 4 o'clock on Tuesday morning, and came upon PRINGLE, who walked out almost without assistance, and came up the ladder to the top, looking very pale and frightened, but declaring that he was unhurt. He could give no account of TAYLOR, except that when the rush of earth came, he (TAYLOR) was higher up the shaft and nearer the top than PRINGLE, who heard nothing afterwards except a kind of groaning for about five minutes. PRINGLE was consigned to the medical men and put to bed, having been upwards of 13 hours imbedded in the damp earth. Cold was the only thing he complained of. He had experienced no difficulty, he said, in "getting breathed", which was most strange, and he had heard all the proceedings from the first of the men employed in extricating him. Not to speak irreverently, nothing could be conceived so like resurrection of the dead. The workmen again set to, and laboured away with the most resolute will in the hope of rescuing TAYLOR, who, as compared with PRINGLE, was a very strong man. It was not till 2 o'clock on Tuesday afternoon that they came upon his body, stark and stiff and head downwards, almost at the bottom of the well, and imbedded in wet sand. He had long been dead. An inquest was held on Tuesday evening before MR. CARRICK, coroner, and a verdict of "Accidental death" returned. There has been nothing to cause so painful a sensation in this neighbourhood since the "WALTON tragedy" - the event which terminated the life of a Cumberland yeoman at the hand of a clergyman, which will be still in the memory of our readers. ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````

Jack says thank you very much for your kind wishes,,, Anne On 21/08/2006, at 9:02 PM, Marlene Cox wrote: > Just had a phone call from Dave asking me to put on > the List that it is Jack's b'day tomorrow 22nd [Anne > W's hubby, which means that it is almost there > already. > Marlene > > > > ___________________________________________________________ >

Hope he's had a good day Anne Jean out west, who can't seem to keep up with the days now. > Jack says thank you very much for your kind wishes,,, > Anne > >

Posted with permission og the transcriber, 'Ann' Geo. THE WEST CUMBERLAND NEWS, Nov. 21, 1931 CRASH INTO WALL ______ Richmond Hill Accident ______ WHITEHAVEN MAN INJURED. A serious motor accident, involving three young Whitehaven men, occurred in the early hours of Tuesday morning at Richmond Hill, Hensingham. A Rover-10 Weymann saloon, belonging to Mr. John ROAN, Loop Road, Whitehaven, and driven by the owner, with Mr. Robert HOLMES, 17 King Street, Whitehaven, and Mr. Edward R. McCRAY, 23, Meadow View, Whitehaven as passengers, was proceeding from Cleator Moor to Whitehaven. When taking the corner for Hensingham at the cross-roads the car mounted the grass bank and crashed into the stone wall on the right side of the road, knocking down some five feet of the wall in the process. The car was completely wrecked and the occupants were rendered unconscious. Mr. McCRAY, who was the least injured sustaining bruises and a cut over the left eye, was the first to regain consciousness. He dragged HOLMES and ROAN from the car and then went down to Whitehaven for assistance. On his return HOLMES and ROAN were removed by Dr. MACKAY and the police to the Whitehaven Hospital. HOLMES had a broken arm and was suffering from shock, but was not long detained at the hospital, but ROAN's condition was found to be very serious. He had a deep wound in the back of the head and a deep cut over the right eye. He is still in the hospital in a serious condition. An unusual feature in the wreck of the car was that although the near side front wheel was buckled entirely out of shape, the tyre did not burst. The Weymann body was utterly wrecked, and only the presence of the windscreen frame prevented the roof from falling in altogether. _____________________

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Sue, many if not most household insurance policies cover you for food spoilage due to interruption to the electricity supply. Check your policy, you may be able to claim for any food you throw out. Geo. Thanks to everyone who responded ... I've decided to throw out the ice-creams and ice lollies - and also the frozen cooked food - but will keep the rest - and try and use it all up in the next 2-4 weeks - descending in order of 'thickness' of the packaging - starting with the thinnest .. :-)) Shop bought frozen food isn't nearly as frozen as the food in my freezer - and the unfortunate thing was - we had only just stocked up (a few hours before the power outage) - so this food won't be as 'solid' as the other, older, frozen stuff ... One thing - I'm not sure I'd've wanted to have trusted any of this food if the lecky had been off for 24 hours - let alone 48 ... Urghh ... Maybe US / Canadian freezers are built differently - maybe they have more insulation around them ... Thanks again ... Sue

Here's hoping you have a lovely birthday Jack, and many more to come. Warmest Greetings Johno

Sorry . . . I'm all behind these days. Hope you had a fab day . .. with lots of good eats and hugs from your grandchildren. Jennifer (in Canada)

I feel like the white rabbit - I'm late, I'm late, for a very important date !!! Hope you had a fab birthday, Jack !!! Pat.xxx :o)) A Maid of Kent

HAPPY BIRTHDAY from me too Jack! Gwen. > HAPPY BIRTHDAY Jack > I hope you have a great day > > John > > > Happy Birthday Jack [hubby of Anne W. in Ozzieland] > > Trivvie Hugs > Marlene in Canada and Big Dave, Pam, Nikki and young > George in England > > _________________________________________________________________ > Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! > http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters > > > ==== GEN-TRIVIA-ENG Mailing List ==== > RANDOM TAGLINE - GEN-TRIVIA-ENG - MAILING LIST > Comparison stories between Countries are always most welcome. These help > to make the list interesting as well as educational. >

What a good idea Marlene...must remeber to try that! Gwen xx > This was something I meant to send to the list at > least 2 or 3 years ago. Have you ever like I have > wondered if your fridge and freezer would be OK whilst > you were away, I have and thought this hint was great > BUT of course I have always forgot to put it into > action. You simply put a few ice cubes into a small > bag or sealed container, and check on it when you come > back from holiday .. it will tell you if the freezer > has been off for long enough to check your other > freezer stuff [and the fridge if it is a part of the > appliance] ... because the ice cubes would melt and > then refreeze as either a blob of distorted cubes or a > solid block if it had been for a longish period. > Marlene ... a sufferer of a freezer problem a week > ago > [over 40hours with a slighty open freezer door ] > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Inbox full of spam? Get leading spam protection and 1GB storage with All > New Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html > > > ==== GEN-TRIVIA-ENG Mailing List ==== > RANDOM TAGLINE - GEN-TRIVIA-ENG - MAILING LIST > Gen-Trivia-Eng listers remember Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow. >

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