Tomorrow is the date that Roz and Kev celebrate their union Happy Happy Anniversary Roz and Kev Lots of Love and Hugs Dave, Pam and Nikki .

Oh I am so sorry to hear about George Johnno....a sad time when out pets leave us Hugs Di Di [email protected] > Hello All > > A sad bloggo this week as we lost our lovely cat George last week to a > tumour. He was a lovely brave cat who battled on for nearly 6 months but > in the end it proved too much for him. We all miss him a lot. I made a > bit of a mistake in the bloggo though and called him our black cat when he > was, in fact, white. Sorry about that George. > > http://www.connolley.co.uk/Bloggo_de_Johno.htm > > Hope you are all keeping well > > Kindest Regards > > Johno > . > . > "IS THE SUBJECT LINE STILL RELEVANT? > If not, PLEASE change it." > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Interesting Geo, but we were nearly French Val xx > Transcribed by Susan Bergeron. > > Geo. > > > > Carlisle Journal > Friday, December 8th, 1899 > > > Australasia > > Outside India the path of Empire building has been more peaceful. COOK, a > captain in the navy, but immortal as an explorer rather than a fighter, > was the effectual discoverer of Australia; both his achievements and his > character make him a worthy founder of a new continent. After COOK rank > the crews of the whalers who sailed the Southern Seas; they made no > settlements, but their maritime enterprise gave England an interest that > naturally let to colonisation. Far less worthy and altogether a pathetic > class of men to have been the builders of a new nation were the convicts > sent to the penal settlement at Botany Bay. DARWIN urged that there was > something to be said for the system; the descendants of the convicts had > grown up in their new surroundings into respectable men. Certainly many > of the men transported were convicted for slight offences, but the system > cannot really be defended. The non-criminal settlers found it > intolerable, and the Home Government were compelled ! > to abolish it, though not without a struggle. It is curious that we > should have learnt so little wisdom in long years; the first colonial > expedition that set out under FROBISHER took criminals and failed utterly; > BACON warned his countrymen of the cost of trying to form plantations of > the scum of the population; yet we persisted in the attempt and only gave > it up not from wisdom but because we were forced to do so by Australian > opinion. If colonisation is allowed to follow its natural course, the > most energetic and fittest find their way out; when a Government steps in > to send out failures it simply sacrifices the new country for no material > benefit to the old. Australia was saved from this fate by the influx of > immigrants who have swamped the old convict element, which is now only a > stain which Australia resents but which does not materially affect her > population. > > Beyond the import of convicts there was at the beginning of this century > no organised system of emigration to the colonies, as there had been in > the days of the companies who colonised North America. The results were > unsatisfactory. England after that great war with NAPOLEON was full of > distress and misery, wages were low, food dear, and the condition of the > labouring classes was made worse by the old Poor Law. In Australia there > was a lack of labour, except that of convicts; the population was > scattered, as land was granted free and settlers established themselves > where they pleased; there was little capital and no co-operation. > WAKEFIELD, a man of great ability though of rather undisciplined > character, who had taken up the colonial question, saw the evils of > haphazard colonisation, for which he proposed a remedy that was to consist > in making colonisation more complete; the settlers were to be collected in > groups, the free grant of land was to be forbidden, so that th! > e immigrant might begin as a labourer, and in order that the purchase > money might form an immigration fund to bring fresh settlers. By his > efforts he succeeded in persuading a knot of distinguished men, such as > CHARLES BULLER, MOLESWORTH, and GROTE, to join him; to carry out their > projects an association was formed in 1837 for the colonisation of New > Zealand. The association met two obstacles: the home Government were > reluctant to extend its responsibilities, and the missionaries objected > because the arrival of white men would interfere with their relations with > the natives. These obstacles were disregarded, the expedition sailed > without leave, forcing the hand of the Home Government, who annexed New > Zealand only just in time to save it from annexation by the French. > WAKEFIELD may justly be considered the founder of New Zealand, and not > only of New Zealand, for by his writings he founded a Colonial school of > thought on the right lines which has done immense service to b! > oth the Colonies and the Mother Country. > > ..... > . > . > "IS THE SUBJECT LINE STILL RELEVANT? > If not, PLEASE change it." > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sounds lovely Jean, BTW welcome to the octogenarian club. Pleased your tests were ok Hugs Val xx > Dear Trivvies > > Thank you Claire, Johno, Miss Mary and Cathy ( chasing you Johno <bg>), Di > Di, Val, Geo, Wendy, Gwen, Brenda and Capt John ( belated Anniversary > Greetings), Glennis, Edna, Jean USA, PJK,( congrats on anticipating > grandmotherhood), and last but not least Dave, Pam and Nikki. > > I had a wonderful day, which your greetings all went to help make the day > the best I've had for a long time, and I felt well. > > It started with a call from my brother in the USA, and then my daughter > who, > with Chris, was coming over later to my home, called saying she had > someone > with her who wanted to speak to me. Someone came on singing the Happy > Birthday to You song. I thought I recognised the voice, but didn't see how > it was possible, then I was told that I'd known them for about 50 years. > It > was Heather's best friend from school in the UK and she and her husband > were > in Perth for a few days and wanting to surprise her landed on her doorstep > at 8 am. > > When I recovered from the shock I decided to go to over to their home, > only > to find their car gone, and realised they must have come to see me. Thank > goodness for mobile phones! We had a lovely morning, then in the afternoon > my neighbour's mother, who arrived from the UK at the weekend called > round, > so we had a good time catching up on news. > > Last week I learned that all my blood tests were normal and there was no > sign of cancer. I assume this means there were no 'markers'. > > On TuesdayI went to see John and have lunch with him at the Nursing Home, > sadly he was rather confused as he was yesterday, and yet on the Sunday he > was quite good. > > Hope I've not bored you with all this. > > Hugs to you all > Jean Oz > > . > . > "IS THE SUBJECT LINE STILL RELEVANT? > If not, PLEASE change it." > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Transcribed by Emily Smith. Geo. The Northern News With Which Are Amalgamated The HALTWHISTLE and ALSTON NEWS and NORTH CUMBERLAND REFORMER No. 514 —Vol. XI. Saturday, January 6, 1900 ----- THE WORLD IS FLAT. President KRUGER and some of his most learned subjects, to say nothing of the Boers generally, believe that the world is flat. This is not a libel on their intelligence, says a London correspondent, invented by narrow-minded English prejudice. We find the fact soberly stated by an American who is relating in "The Century Magazine" an account of how he recently sailed round the world in a sloop. Captain SLOCUM is not a Californian adventurer, but an educated man who during his stay in South Africa included Sir Alfred MILNER, the late Harry ESCOMBE, Sir Henry M. STANLEY, M.P., and Col. SAUNDERSON, M.P., among his guests. At Durban he was visited by three Boers from Pretoria who had just published a work proving that the world is not a globe. One of these visitors was a minister of the Dutch Church which President KRUGER attends. Their object in calling upon the captain was to obtain further data from him. The Boers and the traveler discussed the subject for a long time, the Boers producing their Bible, and saying, "If you respect the Word of God you must admit that the world is flat"; while Captain SLOCUM produced his chart, on which he traced the track his sloop had made. But unhappily this quite gave the case away. The chart itself was flat, spread out on a table. What could be clearer? These modern maps of the universe exactly confirmed the Scriptures; this distinguished traveler, of whom they had read in the Pretoria papers, instead of upsetting their arguments, had completely confirmed them. With American nonchalance Captain Slocum gave it up, wondering that there could be such ignorance even in Pretoria. But he wondered more later on. From Durban he journeyed to Pretoria and called upon the President. Judge BEYERS introduced him. In the course of conversation the Judge mentioned that his friend Captain SLOCUM was on a voyage round the world. It was said innocently enough, but the Captain at once saw that the Judge had touched a sore place. The President bluntly told his honour not to talk rubbish. We will quote the story in the Captain's own words:—It unwittingly gave great offence to the venerable Statesman which we both regretted deeply. Mr. KRUGER corrected the Judge rather sharply, reminding him that the world is flat. "You don't mean round the world," said the President; "it is impossible! You mean in the world. Impossible!" he said, "impossible!" and not another word did he utter either to the Judge or me. The Judge looked at me, and I looked at the Judge, who should have known his ground, so to speak, and Mr. KRUGER glowered at us both." It was an embarrassing moment for everybody, excepting Mr. KRUGER, who triumphantly held his own. -- Emily Smith

Yep. Dunno what I would have done then, 'cos I don't speak French. <g> Geo. Interesting Geo, but we were nearly French Val xx

Welcome Margaret ... if I haven't already ... (can't remember anything these days!! I'm Lizzie and I live in the Peak District National Park, Derbyshire. I've been a Trivvie for ever, but don't post nearly as much as I used to as I'm very busy. You'll find real friends here ... Lizzie -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Margaret Sent: 29 January 2008 23:57 To: GEN- TRIVIA- [email protected] Subject: [TRIVVIES] New member Many thanks for your welcome email. I now live in Salisbury, Wiltshire, which is a lovely place. But I am really a Londoner, I was born there and lived there all my life until a few years ago when we moved to Devon. Another really beautiful place. Then when my husband died, 3 years ago, I decided I would go and live nearer to my two daughters. It was a good move and I love it here. I do miss being by the sea but other things make up for that. I am very interested in tracing our family history and have got as far back as 1770. So I am on the London list which has about a thousand members and also the LONDON LIFE list which is about things appertaining to London itself. Both are immensely interesting as I'm sure this list is. Everybody has such interesting things to say and share with the list. Kind regards to everyone, from Margaret. . . "IS THE SUBJECT LINE STILL RELEVANT? If not, PLEASE change it." ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Transcribed by 'Steve'. Geo. THE WESTMORLAND GAZETTE SATURDAY 25th JULY 1863 MELANCHOLY ACCIDENT A BOY DROWNED IN DERWENTWATER On Saturday an inquest was held at the Royal Oak Hotel, Keswick, before Mr. HOWSON, the deputy coroner, on the body of Alfred Fisher WILSON, aged 11 years, son of Mrs. Wilson, of the Market-place, Keswick. Anthony SPEDDING stated that on Thursday afternoon he went with Wilson and another boy named Morley STANLEY, to bathe behind the isthmus in Crow Park, on the shores of the lake. Stanley went into the water first, and was followed by Wilson, who, when up to his neck, said that he was going to swim. He suddenly got out of his depth and sank. None of the boys were able to swim. The witness had warned him not to proceed lest he should be drowned. He rose two or three times, and Stanley held out a stick to him but he failed to reach him. After sinking, the deceased came up two or three times, and his face was very white, but he seemed to have no consciousness. Witness shouted for help; failing to make himself heard, he ran to some haymakers in Crow Park, who came to the spot but made no attempt to enter the water. It was a quarter of an hour before deceased was taken out. - Morley Stanley gave corroborative evidence. - John GATE, the guide and boatman, said - He was by the lake side on Thursday, when he heard the alarm and moved towards the place where the deceased had sunk. It was a small hole in a circle of 20 feet, in which the water was eight or nine feet deep. Witness dived into the lake but failed to get hold of the deceased, who was taken out immediately afterwards by Robert RAVEN with a hay-rake. He was black in the face and his body was swollen with the water. Witness and others rubbed the corpse in the hopes of recalling vitality, and medical gentlemen also used every appliance for restoring suspended animation, but without effect, as the body had been under water for about half an hour - Robert Raven made a similar statement. - The Coroner summed up, and the jury returned a verdict of " Accidentally drowned while bathing Steve

Transcribed by 'Steve'. Geo. THE WESTMORLAND GAZETTE SATURDAY 25th JULY 1863 KESWICK There was quite a commotion here on Thursday last, in consequence of the arrival of a locomotive engine from Cockermouth intended for the railway works, drawn through the town by fourteen horses, and decorated with evergreens and banners, headed by the Keswick Drum and Fife Band playing " See the Conquering Hero come." Being the first locomotive ever in Keswick both young and old turned out to have a look (many of them for the first time) at so wonderful a piece of machinery. The engine was put upon the rails at Browfoot Cutting, and is intended to draw the empty waggons up the incline from near Crosthwaite Church. Steve

A man goes to the Birth Registrations Office to register his newborn son. The man behind the counter asks the name he wants to give to the boy, and the father replies 'Euro.' The man says that such a name is not acceptable, because it's a currency. The man says: 'What? There weren't any objections when I called my first two sons Mark and Frank.' When my mother told the DR. that she was naming me Jean William--the Dr. went down and registered me himself so they wouldn"t list me as male. Jean USA

Transcribed by Susan Bergeron. Geo. Carlisle Journal Friday, December 8th, 1899 Australasia Outside India the path of Empire building has been more peaceful. COOK, a captain in the navy, but immortal as an explorer rather than a fighter, was the effectual discoverer of Australia; both his achievements and his character make him a worthy founder of a new continent. After COOK rank the crews of the whalers who sailed the Southern Seas; they made no settlements, but their maritime enterprise gave England an interest that naturally let to colonisation. Far less worthy and altogether a pathetic class of men to have been the builders of a new nation were the convicts sent to the penal settlement at Botany Bay. DARWIN urged that there was something to be said for the system; the descendants of the convicts had grown up in their new surroundings into respectable men. Certainly many of the men transported were convicted for slight offences, but the system cannot really be defended. The non-criminal settlers found it intolerable, and the Home Government were compelled to abolish it, though not without a struggle. It is curious that we should have learnt so little wisdom in long years; the first colonial expedition that set out under FROBISHER took criminals and failed utterly; BACON warned his countrymen of the cost of trying to form plantations of the scum of the population; yet we persisted in the attempt and only gave it up not from wisdom but because we were forced to do so by Australian opinion. If colonisation is allowed to follow its natural course, the most energetic and fittest find their way out; when a Government steps in to send out failures it simply sacrifices the new country for no material benefit to the old. Australia was saved from this fate by the influx of immigrants who have swamped the old convict element, which is now only a stain which Australia resents but which does not materially affect her population. Beyond the import of convicts there was at the beginning of this century no organised system of emigration to the colonies, as there had been in the days of the companies who colonised North America. The results were unsatisfactory. England after that great war with NAPOLEON was full of distress and misery, wages were low, food dear, and the condition of the labouring classes was made worse by the old Poor Law. In Australia there was a lack of labour, except that of convicts; the population was scattered, as land was granted free and settlers established themselves where they pleased; there was little capital and no co-operation. WAKEFIELD, a man of great ability though of rather undisciplined character, who had taken up the colonial question, saw the evils of haphazard colonisation, for which he proposed a remedy that was to consist in making colonisation more complete; the settlers were to be collected in groups, the free grant of land was to be forbidden, so that the immigrant might begin as a labourer, and in order that the purchase money might form an immigration fund to bring fresh settlers. By his efforts he succeeded in persuading a knot of distinguished men, such as CHARLES BULLER, MOLESWORTH, and GROTE, to join him; to carry out their projects an association was formed in 1837 for the colonisation of New Zealand. The association met two obstacles: the home Government were reluctant to extend its responsibilities, and the missionaries objected because the arrival of white men would interfere with their relations with the natives. These obstacles were disregarded, the expedition sailed without leave, forcing the hand of the Home Government, who annexed New Zealand only just in time to save it from annexation by the French. WAKEFIELD may justly be considered the founder of New Zealand, and not only of New Zealand, for by his writings he founded a Colonial school of thought on the right lines which has done immense service to both the Colonies and the Mother Country. .....

Transcribed by Emily Smith. Geo. <Sound familiar?> The Northern News With Which Are Amalgamated The HALTWHISTLE and ALSTON NEWS and NORTH CUMBERLAND REFORMER No. 514 —Vol. XI. Saturday, January 6, 1900 ----- THE LONDON PRESS AND THE WAR. In his diary of the month, in the January issue of the "Nineteenth Century," Sir Wemyss REID had something to say about the recent resignations of the editors of the London "Daily Chronicle" and the London "Echo," which is worthy of attention, coming from so experienced a journalist. He writes of these resignations:—"This, surely, is very bad, not only for the public, but for the proprietors of the journals which have changed sides in this summary fashion. The British Press is nothing if it is not representative. We are not all Jingoes, nor are we all convinced that our diplomacy has been faultless, and our policy invariably sound in our dealings with President KRUGER and South African affairs. Yet, if we are to judge merely by the London Press as it exists today, we might easily come to the conclusion that there was absolute unanimity amongst us on these points. Heaven help not only the Press, but the country, if independence of opinion and honest frankness of expression should come to be treated as a crime punishable by expulsion from office." On the subject of the supposed unanimity of opinion respecting the war, Sir Wemyss REID makes these further comments:—"I have talked much to shrewd observers of the course of popular feeling as to the real opinion of the public on the subject of the war. I gather that everywhere, alike in town and in country, the overwhelming majority stands by the Executive in the struggle in which the nation is now engaged. But there is still a minority, not strong in numbers, but unquestionably strong in pertinacity and resolution, that looks upon the war with abhorrence, and that maintains just as stoutly as Mr. BRIGHT did in the Crimean days that it is a war that ought never have been begun." Sir Wemyss adds that this resolute minority, composed chiefly but not exclusively of Liberals and Radicals, maintains its opposition to the whole policy of the Government with a tenacity almost as remarkable as that which our soldiers displayed when they scaled the heights of Dundee, or refused to be denied in their dash upon the Boer position on the Modder. For the present the minority is powerless. But it will make itself heard in the not distant future, and the fortunes of one at least of the great political parties will be affected by the efforts it will make. -- Emily Smith

Very many thanks to all who welcomed me so warmly to the Trivvies list. I really feel at home on it. I don't know any of you yet, but I'm glad to hear that Trivvie Jean of OZ had good results from her blood tests. Good news like that makes one feel really marvellous. Kind regards to all from Margaret.

Grief is unbearable whether is be a person or a much loved animal. I do feel for you, Johno. But George hasn't really gone, he is still there, wandering about the kitchen and snoozing in his favourite place. It's just that you can't see him. Talk to him sometimes and let him know that you still care. I do hope this helps, Johno. Kindest regards from Margaret.

Brilliant news on the blood tests Jean Hugs Di Di [email protected] ) > Dear Trivvies > > Thank you Claire, Johno, Miss Mary and Cathy ( chasing you Johno <bg>), Di > Di, Val, Geo, Wendy, Gwen, Brenda and Capt John ( belated Anniversary > Greetings), Glennis, Edna, Jean USA, PJK,( congrats on anticipating > grandmotherhood), and last but not least Dave, Pam and Nikki. > > I had a wonderful day, which your greetings all went to help make the day > the best I've had for a long time, and I felt well. > > It started with a call from my brother in the USA, and then my daughter > who, > with Chris, was coming over later to my home, called saying she had > someone > with her who wanted to speak to me. Someone came on singing the Happy > Birthday to You song. I thought I recognised the voice, but didn't see how > it was possible, then I was told that I'd known them for about 50 years. > It > was Heather's best friend from school in the UK and she and her husband > were > in Perth for a few days and wanting to surprise her landed on her doorstep > at 8 am. > > When I recovered from the shock I decided to go to over to their home, > only > to find their car gone, and realised they must have come to see me. Thank > goodness for mobile phones! We had a lovely morning, then in the afternoon > my neighbour's mother, who arrived from the UK at the weekend called > round, > so we had a good time catching up on news. > > Last week I learned that all my blood tests were normal and there was no > sign of cancer. I assume this means there were no 'markers'. > > On TuesdayI went to see John and have lunch with him at the Nursing Home, > sadly he was rather confused as he was yesterday, and yet on the Sunday he > was quite good. > > Hope I've not bored you with all this. > > Hugs to you all > Jean Oz > > . > . > "IS THE SUBJECT LINE STILL RELEVANT? > If not, PLEASE change it." > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello All A sad bloggo this week as we lost our lovely cat George last week to a tumour. He was a lovely brave cat who battled on for nearly 6 months but in the end it proved too much for him. We all miss him a lot. I made a bit of a mistake in the bloggo though and called him our black cat when he was, in fact, white. Sorry about that George. http://www.connolley.co.uk/Bloggo_de_Johno.htm Hope you are all keeping well Kindest Regards Johno

Dear Trivvies Thank you Claire, Johno, Miss Mary and Cathy ( chasing you Johno <bg>), Di Di, Val, Geo, Wendy, Gwen, Brenda and Capt John ( belated Anniversary Greetings), Glennis, Edna, Jean USA, PJK,( congrats on anticipating grandmotherhood), and last but not least Dave, Pam and Nikki. I had a wonderful day, which your greetings all went to help make the day the best I've had for a long time, and I felt well. It started with a call from my brother in the USA, and then my daughter who, with Chris, was coming over later to my home, called saying she had someone with her who wanted to speak to me. Someone came on singing the Happy Birthday to You song. I thought I recognised the voice, but didn't see how it was possible, then I was told that I'd known them for about 50 years. It was Heather's best friend from school in the UK and she and her husband were in Perth for a few days and wanting to surprise her landed on her doorstep at 8 am. When I recovered from the shock I decided to go to over to their home, only to find their car gone, and realised they must have come to see me. Thank goodness for mobile phones! We had a lovely morning, then in the afternoon my neighbour's mother, who arrived from the UK at the weekend called round, so we had a good time catching up on news. Last week I learned that all my blood tests were normal and there was no sign of cancer. I assume this means there were no 'markers'. On TuesdayI went to see John and have lunch with him at the Nursing Home, sadly he was rather confused as he was yesterday, and yet on the Sunday he was quite good. Hope I've not bored you with all this. Hugs to you all Jean Oz

Welcome to the list, Margaret. I'm Jean, living in Perth Australia. Welcome home Di Di. >> Di Di wrote: >>> Welcome to the list Margaret. I am the list owner but I have been >>> overseas >>> the last 6 weeks. I can see Geo. has been doing a wonderful job as >>> Moderator.....thank you Geo. >>> >>> Oh yes and a big hello to all listers......did ya miss me....did ya????? >>> lol >>> Di Di >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> >> . >> . >> "IS THE SUBJECT LINE STILL RELEVANT? >> If not, PLEASE change it." >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > . > . > "IS THE SUBJECT LINE STILL RELEVANT? > If not, PLEASE change it." > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Oh the cheek of the man LOL Di Di [email protected] > Welcome to the list Margaret and also to the new member DiDi.....oh > sorry welcome back stranger.............LOL > > Jim, Caledon, Canada > [email protected] > [email protected] > > > > > Di Di wrote: >> Welcome to the list Margaret. I am the list owner but I have been >> overseas >> the last 6 weeks. I can see Geo. has been doing a wonderful job as >> Moderator.....thank you Geo. >> >> Oh yes and a big hello to all listers......did ya miss me....did ya????? >> lol >> Di Di >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> > . > . > "IS THE SUBJECT LINE STILL RELEVANT? > If not, PLEASE change it." > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >