In a previous article, fmilos@quirp. (Frank Milos - SUN WWOPS New Products Project Manager) says: > >The copy of the marriage certificate of my grandparents is in Latin. > >Does the phrase "Praesentibus testibus" translate to witnesses? > It means "The witnesses being present". The -ibus ending also tells us that some OTHER word is the subject of the sentence. (For those who are Latin scholars, this construction is known as the Ablative Absolute.) -- Gary N. Deckant bs039@yfn.ysu.edu Youngstown, Ohio