In article <337FDEF7.3987F74D@earthlink.net>, John Bics <johnbics@earthlink.net> writes: > Has any body ever ran across the name of Bics in their searching's. > Also, the name of a town in Austria/Hungry by the name of Udvarkley. > > My father came from there supposedly. But cannot find out anything else > about him. Hello, John! Udvarhely was a county in former southeast Hungary (Transylvania), now in Romania, so your placename may just be a reference to the county. But there were also 4 towns/villages called Udvarhely for short that I could find, all of them in Transylvania and today in Romania: Hungarian: Sajoudvarhely, today Romanian: Sieu-Odorhei H: Szamosudvarhely, R: Somes-Odorhei H: Szekelyudvarhely, R: Odorheiu Secuiesc H: Vamosudvarhely, R: Odrihei Joe Armata armata@vms.cis.pitt.edu