MTNMANN wrote: > > I saw the same chlorea epidemic in 1873 in Osturna, Szepes county west of > Saros. > > John Hudick Say John, that must have been an incredible time. Your report will fascinating. Would you mind sharing your experiences with the rest of us. I hope to share your comments with many who find the cholera times of high interest. Thanks again. ======================================== Jerry Machalek, publisher CZECH & SLOVAK CONNECTIONS A monthly newsletter for US/Canadian readers with serious interests in the Czech/Slovak Republics. Includes business, travel and trade advertising. Subs. $12. /annum. Free sample issue upon request. see http://www.czech.com or (612) 897-1151 =========================================

Since I knew 2 of my uncles were born in Chicopee, MA, I checked with the City Clerk to see what information I could discover about the MILOS family. I learned my grandparents met and were married in Chicopee in 1902. I thought they were married in the old country. I also learned that their first son, William, died in Chicopee at the age of 4 months of pneumonia. This was a new piece of information, since no one was aware of his birth. Unfortunately, the city does not have record of his birth. Joseph and John were born there before my grandparents returned to Poland (then Austria) and bought some land in ORLOW, GALATIA, AUSTRIA (POLAND). They returned to the US to Cumberland where my father, Fred, was born. By chance, I contacted the church in Chicopee and found that my grandparents were married in the St. Stanislaus Church. After getting a copy of the marriage certificate, I now have the names of my great grandparents: g-grandparents Joseph Milos & Marianne Pazdro Parents of Marcin (my grandfather) Valentini Zakrecka & Marianne Milos Parents of Anna (my grandmother) Marcin was from Plawa, Galatia, Austria. Anna was from Twierdza, Galatia, Austria. Does anyone know the location of these towns and if they would be near Orlow, which I believe is near Mielec? Does anyone know is the church records for these 2 towns exist? Information is slowly unfolding and I am surprised I've gotten this far. Thanks in advance! Frank

The copy of the marriage certificate of my grandparents is in Latin. Does the phrase "Praesentibus testibus" translate to witnesses? Thanks! Frank

DocJTP wrote: > > I have had excellent service working with Tom Zahn at > pathfinders@terminal.cz. He has researchers available at each of the > archives and can obtain copies of certificates. This is EXCELLENT news - THANK YOU very much!!!! Liz

I have had excellent service working with Tom Zahn at pathfinders@terminal.cz. He has researchers available at each of the archives and can obtain copies of certificates.

May I ask why you published this? I sent it to you privately because I, obviously, did not know the meanings of the words but felt I could help a little. I have found this posting, in light of the fact that someone was actually able to translate for you, very embarrasing.

I am trying to find anyone who has ancestors from Wadowice, Zawadka, and or Sosnowice. My father was born in USA, but his father returned to Poland after his wife died in Detroit in 1923. They lived in the country outside of Wadowice from 1925-1939. My great grand- parents lived in Zawadka and I can't find anything about them. My father does not remember them...when they died...etc... Any help on these towns would be appreciated. Thank you. Mary Wroblewski Do widzenia! Do Zobaczenia! (Good-bye! Till we meet again!) -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet

My wife's family came from Slovakia early in this century and there is absolutely nothing known about the family's history prior to about 1920. There seem to be inheritable family diseases (all fatal) which took the lives of nearly everyone...most died by 38, 40. Her father only made it to 48, but she seems to be ahead (now 49). What would be of interest is to find out if there are any other Kistulinec's around, especially those who may have come from New York or Connecticut...to see how they might be doing.

I found in my research that my great-great-grandfather (i think that's the correct number of "great"s) was a decorated veteran in the Russian Army during the Crimean War. Considering a Revolution and a World War, do we know if the Russian goverment still has those records, or even if those records were kept? If they are still in existance, who could I write to to possibly get a service record. John-Joseph Bober (boberj@dmrtrecom.com)

Hello to all, I am making a long-awaited trip to Chicago on March 22 to do research on my husband's father's family. I would like to spend at least one full day at the National Archives there, and would appreciate some pointers on what kind of research I can do there and how best to spend my time. I have family names and immigration dates (year only for two, month for one) for three family members, but have been unable to find ship names to search passenger lists. I do not have death dates for most either. Any suggestions from others who have used the Natl. Archives would be very helpful. Also, can anyone tell me where I can find (or purchase) a current telephone directory for Slovakia, especially the region of Orava near Dolny Kubin? Another researcher who is looking for the same surname as I am is interested in this directory. Thank you for any help you can give me. Carol Harbushka 721 Via Elena Goodyear, AZ 85338 charbus@litchpkeld.k12.az.us

> .... The town or village that she was born/baptized in > could be spelled Keninjonka or Kerinjonka. The diocese which would be > Greek Catholic was Gcapusicnsi or instead of a G, sub a L. The Church > was St. Bartholmews or from the certificate-St. Bartholomasum.... Village looks like Kamionka, also spelled Kamienka, which is just north of Stara Lubovna and about 15 or 20 miles northeast of Kezmarok. Diocese looks like Latin for Kapusany. Joe armata@vms.cis.pitt.edu

> > DIOECESIS: Leopoliensis ) > PALATINATUS: Parnopol ) Where/what the heck is this? > PAROCHIA: Kopyclynce ) > DISTRICTUS: Kopyclynce ) Diocese: Leopolis (Latin for Lviv, in southwest Ukraine) Palatinate/County: Tarnopol (Ternopil, also in sw Ukraine) Parish: looks like Kopychynci (town about 30ish miles south of Ternopil) District: same > I can pretty much ASSUME what the columns mean, NOMEN=name, > PARENTES=parents. > But what is PATRINI? what is COGNOMEN? & what is ET CONDITIO? Patrini=godparents, cognomen=surname, et condition=and status/class/occupation > In regards to column: LOCUS NATIVIT. ET N-RUS DOMUS > What is Ory_zkowce 141? Locus Nativit. et N-rus Domus: Place of birth and house number The village of birth is Oryszkowce (Polish spelling)/Orishkivci (Ukrainian spelling). This is about 3 miles southwest of Kopychynci. House number is 141. > I am also curious as to what is actually listed under parents: (verbatim) > Petzyk Jose - phus agricola h, Theodori et Marie Michalecka. - Anna B_tyk > H. Joannis et Helena Kurylak. Father: Josephus (Joseph) Petzyk, farmer (could what you see as "h" be "ex", meaning "of"?), whose parents were Theodor and Maria Michalecka. Mother: Anna B_tyk, ("H" again, maybe "ex"?) whose parents were Joannis (John) and Helena Kurylak. > Under PATRINI column there is: Joannes Radominski agri Maria Stel-masrcluk Godparens: Joannes (John) Radominski, farmer, and Maria Stelmanchuk? Stelmaszchuk? If you think another pair of eyes would help, email me for my address and you can send a copy of the certificate. Joe Armata armata@vms.cis.pitt.edu

What about trying "kraj Pisecky"? It is the region round Pisek in South Bohemia. L.

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Ben Le Blanc wrote: > > Hello people, I was recently given my Grandmothers naturalization Papers, > at least I think thats what it is. Testimonium Nat_________e________i > (a couple of stamps cover the letters) > > DIOECESIS: Leopoliensis ) > PALATINATUS: Parnopol ) Where/what the heck is this? > PAROCHIA: Kopyclynce ) > DISTRICTUS: Kopyclynce ) > > I can pretty much ASSUME what the columns mean, NOMEN=name, > PARENTES=parents. > > But what is PATRINI? what is COGNOMEN? & what is ET CONDITIO? > PATRINI means godfathers, COGNOMEN is surname, CONDITIO might be marital status or something alike. > In regards to column: LOCUS NATIVIT. ET N-RUS DOMUS > What is Ory_zkowce 141? > The place of birth and the house number. > I am also curious as to what is actually listed under parents: (verbatim) > Petzyk Jose - phus agricola h, Theodori et Marie Michalecka. - Anna B_tyk > H. Joannis et Helena Kurylak. > > I guess they're names of people, but why so many names in this parentes > column? > That means: Josef Petzyk (maybe Pecik), peasant, son of Theodor Petzyk and Marie (born Michalecka); Anna B_tyk, daughter of Jan B_tyk and Helena (born Kurylak). > Under PATRINI column there is: Joannes Radominski agri Maria Stel-masrcluk > Sorry, I do not know what could Stelmasrcluk be originally. > Sorry for my unorganised msg, can anyone help? I'd love to know my > grandmothers fathers name, wouldn't that be neat? > Thanks Ben

Mangus wrote: > > In looking at my grandmother's birth certificate of 1884 I find that I > am having trouble with the spelling of certain locations which is > hindering my search. The town or village that she was born/baptized in > could be spelled Keninjonka or Kerinjonka. The diocese which would be > Greek Catholic was Gcapusicnsi or instead of a G, sub a L. The Church > was St. Bartholmews or from the certificate-St. Bartholomasum. This > certificate was a duplicate that she sent for and received in 1927 and > was issued by the Czech Rep. Any help would be appreciated. Respond to > Ben Mangus mangus@bellatlantic.net. What about trying Velke Kapusany? I think "G" is abbrev. for Grosse, in Czech and Slovak "velke". Lida

elmer drobny wrote: > > Hi I have after a long time found my fathers birthplace at > ROSNAVA,SLOVAKIA and then there is no way to go.Do you have folks or > know about this town please contact me through E mail it would be best > > I am looking for a bbs or website newsgroup or a college that is > nearby or how i can talk to any human or relative from that area > I am trying to find some relatives there. > > Elmer Drobny > > my E-MAIL IS ........edrobny@imperium.net > > thanks > Email to;edrobny@imperium.net > Land mail;760 S. Sheraton Dr. Akron Ohio 44319 > Email to;edrobny@imperium.net > Land mail;760 S. Sheraton Dr. Akron Ohio 44319 The correct spelling is Roznava (with "hook" over "z" and "n"). L.

DStasny422 wrote: > > I am trying to find out if anybody knows anything about the surnames > Stasny (or something close because I think it has been americanized) or > Cervenka. Both are supposed to be Czech. Stasny may be originally Stastny (with the softening "hook" over the first S and t, and with a long y). Both these surname are nearly definitely Czech. L.

Dennis P. Havlena wrote: > > Hello - > > A 1929 death-certificate has one of my relatives as being born in the > town of Bovorov, Bohemia. I cannot find anything like this name on the > perhaps poor quality Czech map that I have. Would anyone out there who > has a decent Czech map possibly mind looking up this town? > > All of my other relatives on my Dad's side come from the towns of Zahrobi > and Belcice (about 65 miles southwest of Prague) so perhaps this town of > Bovorov is in this area? > > The handwriting on the certificate is none too legible and there is a > possibility that the town is spelled: Bavarov, Bavorov or Bovarov. > The only clear letters are the B_v_rov. > > Thanks VERY much! Dennis Havlena - W8MI, Mackinac Straits, Michigan > dhavlena@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu > Really, the correct spelling is Bavorov. Lida Kovarova, Prague, kovarova@fsv.cvut.cz

In article <19970313001800.TAA28417@ladder01.news.aol.com> irv369@aol.com (IRV369) writes: > The surname Rusnok is found throughout areas of the Carpathian Mountains > from contemporary Ukraine to Moravia in Czech Republic. The surname comes > from the ethnonym RUSNAK, which designated a (male) person of Greek > Catholic or Orthodox faith or of East Slavic language. > RUSNAK is in some > places a synonym for the ethnonyms Lemko, Rusyn, etc. Today many people > in eastern Slovakia who claim Slovak nationality also use Rusnak to > designate a regional or ethnographic identity. This used to be true, but it is true no longer. In Slovakia today the word Rusnak is a synonym for Rusyn. Slovak Greek Catholics no longer refer to themselves/each other as Rusnaks, only as Slovaks. Rusnak strictly= Rusyn. Rich Custer