In article <E7rE00.n4r@ranger.daytonoh.ncr.com>, <Unknown> says... > >Does anyone have any ideas for researching families from Pozega >and Belovar, Croatia? >How did records survive the war? Which war are you talking about? World War II or the recent Yugoslav war? Records probably survived WW II quite well, and Pozega (or Slavonska Pozega) was not affect much by the 1991 war, so records there should be OK. However, Belovar might be a different story. LDS has filmed extensively during the last few years, but for the most part these films are not yet available for loan. Furthermore, if you need 20th century records, it is quite likely that these were not microfilmed. It's my understanding that a roughly 100-year limit was placed on records for microfilming. There are several possibilities of how to proceed. If you already have contacts in Croatia, arrange for them either to go to these places themselves or find locals to do research for you. If you know the parish were your ancestors lived, write to the parish priest and ask for his help. If you ask for "obiteljska knjiga", or "family book", you may get a lot of information from parish records. If these approaches fail, and you know the family name, you might simply write to the family name in that town and see what happens. Finally, and off the subject, please include your email address in postings. Gordon McDaniel mcdaniel@hoover.stanford.edu

Does anyone have any ideas for researching families from Pozega and Belovar, Croatia? How did records survive the war?

A question came up in one of the recent postings about accented charcters and how to make them. It's really quite easy for anyone using Windows. There are a number a ways to approach the issue of putting accented characters into text, such as+ k, l, o, K, b. The way I prefer is to use the keyboard rather that flipping back and forth between a small Windows utility called, CHARACTER MAP. This utility, however, is the key to making up a little "cheater chart" to use in conjunction with the main keyboard and the number pad just to the right of it. Go to the CHARACTER MAP utility. Note that each Truetype Font set has 255 characters in fonts that are used typically for text. Locate one of the special characters that you use for CZECH. Click once on it and note the "ALT" code that appears in a box at the bottom right next to the word "keystroke." For example an k, it should say "Alt+0235". Jott that number down and click on all the others that you might want to use recording there numbers as well. Before proceeding to my perferred method, I should point out that at this point you could double click on the character or "SELECT" and COPY it, which will place it in memory, from that point on you can PASTE it in any Windows document. I find this cumbersome. Instead, armed with the "ALT" codes, you can do the following (assumming that you have NUM LOCK ON. If it is off, it will not work. So put it on NOW.): With the cursor at the insertion point of where you want to place the special character, hold down the ALT key on your keyboard, then while holding it down, press the number keys on the keypad tapping out four digit code.... 0 2 3 5, for the k, or any other code for the other 128 special characters you always wanted to have but couldn't find. Gary Gary

Has anyone an idea where the name origins of the name PANDRICK could be. What is the meaning of this name? I am german but I think it is possible, that this name has its origins in the slavic area. Please eMail me at pandrick@cww.de. Christian Pandrick

Your list is OK for the kings, but insufficient for the early period. The following should be a complete listing. Czech forms of names are used consistently (Vaclav rather than Wenceslas, Premysl Otakar rather than Ottocar etc.) Pre-Slavic Marobud (Marcomanni chief) ?-17/19 Slavic Tribal Union Samo (Frankish merchant) 623/4-658? Greater Moravia Mojmir I. 830?-846 Rastislav 846-870 Svatopluk 870?-894 Mojmir II. 894-906 Legends Cech (forefather) Krok Libuse (princess) Premysl (founder of the dynasty) Nezamysl Mnata Vojen Vnislav Kresomysl Neklan Hostivit Historical Princes Borivoj ?-889? (Svatopluk of Moravia) 889?-894? Spytihnev ?-915? Vratislav I. 915?-921? Vaclav (Saint Wenceslas) ?-929/935 Boleslav I. (the Cruel) 929/935-967/972 Boleslav II. (the Faithful) 967/972-999 Boleslav III. (the Red-haired) 999-1002 Vladivoj 1002-1003 Jaromir 1003 Boleslav III. 1003 Boleslav the Brave 1003-1004 Jaromir 1004-1012 Oldrich 1012-1033 Jaromir 1033-1034 Oldrich 1034 Bretislav I. 1035-1055 Spytihnev II. 1055-1061 Vratislav II. 1061-1092 (king from 1085) Konrad I. of Brno 1092 Bretislav II. 1092-1100 Borivoj II. 1101-1107 Svatopluk 1107-1109 Vladislav I. 1109-1117 Borivoj II. 1117-1120 Vladislav I. 1120-1125 Sobeslav I. 1125-1140 Vladislav II. 1140-1172 (king from 1158) Bedrich 1172-1173 Sobeslav II. 1173-1178 Bedrich 1178-1189 Konrad II. Ota 1189-1191 Vaclav II. 1191-1192 Premysl I. Otakar 1192-1193 Jindrich Bretislav (III.) 1193-1197 Vladislav Jindrich 1197 Premysl I. Otakar 1197-1230 (king from 1198) Your list should be OK for the rest. This comes mostly from the Czech "Who was who in our history until 1918" popular encyclopaedia, but the legendary princes are taken from "Walks in Czech history" by Petr Horejs. Radek -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet

TO: putnik@aol.com ------> Attempted help. The word "Derevna" translated in Russian is "village." <-------- Daragoj putnik@aol.com, esli Vij gavarite po ruski, pazhalusta pishite menja po ruski. Nikola ************************************************* Yours faithfully: Elina Charakchieva (1979)-daughter, translator Hristina Charakchieva (1949), ing. Nikola Charakchiev (1940), ing. Ph. D. Bulgaria, 4000 Plovdiv, 7, Mai str., tel. (359) 32 22-73-73, fax (359) 32 23-23-31 E-mail: ncharak@tu-plovdiv.bg Evgeni Charakchiev (1975)-son, student Chicago, Illinois, North Park University tel. (773) 244-4863 E-mail: echarak@northpark.edu *************************************************

Hi, Mike, My grandfather came from a town called Resita (I can't make the little marks above the letters on this computer) in HUNGARY. Coincidence? It is somewhat near Timisoara. Larry Mike Zuchick (Mikhail Kozupchik) wrote: > > Greetings all, > > I have ran into a slight snag.. I have came to realize that there are more > that one Rechitsa in Belarus and the Ukraine.. Now here is my problem, I > have searched the WEB over and can find no URLs out there that have any > pre-1906-07 Maps containing the villiage's name my grandfather came from as > being not to good a translation: Rechitsa, Hotishoskoy District, Volnskoy > Province of Russia.. (The attached file contains a JPG file that has the > Original Text in my Grandfather's Hand naming the Villiage) > > Could some one please tell me if the Rechitsa, Hotishoskoy District, > Volnskoy Province of Russia (1906-07) is in either Belarus err the Ukraine. > If you can find the village, please give me a hint as to where I may find > it. Please this has been driving me nuts for sometime now.. > > Researching Surnames: Kozupchik or Kocuipchyk, Zuchick, Barna and Spears > Kozupchik: Pre-1906-06 Rechitsa, Hotishovskoy District., Volnskoy Province > of Russia > Zuchick (Kozupchik): USA > Barna: Certizne, Slovak Republic > > Mike Zuchick aka Misha Kozupchik > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Name: D1.jpg > Part 1.2 Type: JPEG Image (image/jpeg) > Encoding: base64 > Description: D1 (JPEG Image)

Does anyone out there live in Zlin? I am intersted in making a computer connection. Regards, chrismik@aol.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Wanna see my comedy-writing credits? http://members.aol.com/chrismik ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Interested in Eastern European or Chicago-area genealogy? Czech-out the web page of the Czech and Slovak American Genealogy Society of Illinois: http://members.aol.com/chrismik/csagsi ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Researching: Norris, Kaiser, Harvey, Hein(e), Cubbin, Chadwick, Rucker, Osborn(e), Oden, Scheideman, Ackerman, Pomeranz, Jefferson, Burkett, Delph, Stockwell, Everett, Brill, Bott, Stailer, Starkel, Cyr, Lamar, Whitney, McDonough, Heintz, Hicks, Cowing, Grabouski, Priff, ETC. My web page is: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/a/r/Marilyn--Harvey/ Marilyn

Hi, Tom-- . Try resubscribing again. If it doesn't work, send a message to Sikorski, the owner of the list. Jill ---------- > I'm still subscribed (I checked today) however I haven't received a GenPol > email since mid January. Not even the ones I posted ! All my subsciptions > to other Email Listserv's work OK so it's not this end. > =========================================================================== = > Tom Wodzinski, Canberra AUSTRALIA > tomwodz@pcug.org.au > > Policy inaction reflects and serves the interest of the contented majority > that elected Government. > It helps to preserve the Governments popularity and to strengthen its > election prospects.

Has anyone ever heard of these surnames? I have had no success with either on the Internet. Brywa, we think originated from Poland and Anodina (or Anodyna) from the Ukraine. Both were women's surnames. Presumably Anodina has been transliterated from the Cyrillic alphabet. I can read Cyrillic but understand only the odd word here or there.

>There are many usefull books that offer beginner's help. One good one is: >"They Came In Ships" by John P. Colletta. This soft cover book costs about >$10, I think, and has many references. > >putnik@aol.com > I have the book. It has been very useful. June from Ca

Admina Grajcrzyk, daughter of Josef Grajcrzyk & Antonia Nowacryzk, was born 21 Dec. 1901 at Radolin, Kalis, Poland, according to her marriage record in the USA. Dave Bystry <DB553@aol.com> is looking for information on his grandmother's ancestry. Please contact him directly by e-mail. mertensotto.1@nd.edu

Michal Zmsyslo, son of Johannis Zmsyslo & Anna Gaik, was born 29 Sept. 1894/5 in Biechow, Kielce, Galicia, Poland according to his marriage record in the USA in 1919. Dave Bystry <DB553@aol.com> is searching for any information on his Grandfather's ancestry. Please contact him directly by e-mail. mertensotto.1@nd.edu

There are many usefull books that offer beginner's help. One good one is: "They Came In Ships" by John P. Colletta. This soft cover book costs about $10, I think, and has many references. putnik@aol.com

Hi My Uncle's name is Hruska. He lives in Minneapolis. If you would like more information contact me. Vicki ---------- > From: Anne Mary C. Chapirson <Hcounter@AOL.COM> > Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.slavic > Subject: Re: HOFERKA, RISKA, LENK, SIMKANIN, BOSAK, KU > Date: Sunday, March 23, 1997 12:39 AM > > In a message dated 97-03-22 22:31:01 EST, you write: > > << I am looking for info on HRUSKA name adapted from the city where the > ancestors were from meaning city of the pear. They came over turn of the > century to Elis Island, original name Fetosh. Four brothers headed west, > my gret-grandfather to midwest (michigan). Any info or links would be > appreciated! > >> > I believe I have that name in my tree or I have seen it in my research in > southern Minnesota. > > Annie >

Tim Swetonic wrote: > > I'm trying to find out about my ancestry. My surname is Swetonic, although > the Slovak version is probably Svetanick or Svetanik. Any tips on starting > this journey would be appreciated. I'm a beginner, and I need help. > > tims@starwave.com Hi Tim, I don't know where you live, but if you access the National Archives on the net, you can get the address of the nearest regional center, the services they offer, and how to figure out the soundex codes. Try to interview any older relatives on when and where the family first arrived in the U.S. With some archives sleuthing and patience, you may find a passenger manifest of an ancestor with the ancestral town on it (I did), and the local Mormon church can refer you to the nearest Family History Center, which in addition to their archives publishes very simple and cheap pamphlets on how to get started. Good luck! Bonnie Cieslukowski Weissman

Piotr Rajski wrote: > > I have difficulty finding Ober-Ravelsbach in Lower Austria on the maps I > have. Could anybody suggest how to reach this town? > > Sincerely, > > Piotr Rajski Hi Piotr, Try checking the mapquest web site; I've had some luck with that. Bonnie Cieslukowski Weissman

At 07:37 PM 26/03/97 -0600, you wrote: >Hi, Jerry-- > >No, Genpol is back. You must have been dropped from the subscriber list. >Try resubscribing. Also, there is a new Polish list out too. Not as >active as genpol, but it's there. I'll see if I can find the instructions >for you. I'm still subscribed (I checked today) however I haven't received a GenPol email since mid January. Not even the ones I posted ! All my subsciptions to other Email Listserv's work OK so it's not this end. ============================================================================ Tom Wodzinski, Canberra AUSTRALIA tomwodz@pcug.org.au Policy inaction reflects and serves the interest of the contented majority that elected Government. It helps to preserve the Governments popularity and to strengthen its election prospects.

We have a Hrusc surname in our family. ================================= In article <19970323031901.WAA27841@ladder01.news.aol.com> Annacst <annacst@AOL.COM> writes: >I am looking for info on HRUSKA name adapted from the city where the >ancestors were from meaning city of the pear. They came over turn of the >century to Elis Island, original name Fetosh. Four brothers headed west, >my gret-grandfather to midwest (michigan). Any info or links would be >appreciated!