HI I am looking for any information on the following surnames. FREY S Rev. Abram Frey Died @ 75 years old SON OF ABOVE Samuel Frey Died @ 49 years old-- Anne Bowman born 1805 died 1-7-1879 in Lancaster Co.PA. CHILDREN OF ABOVE Samuel Frey Anna Frey----Abram First of Harrisburg PA. died before 1900 Rev.Abram Frey born 11-14-1823 in Union Co.PA. died 4-23-1859--Mary Fauby born 1823-died 5-5-1898 Rev.Abram Frey was a Teacher and Died of Typhoid Fever. CHILDREN OF ABOVE Emma Frey David Frey Lizzie Frey + N.A.Baylon Martha Frey + Joseph Heineman Samuel F.Frey b-12-16-1852 + Anna Longnacker Abram Frey b-1846-d-1926 + Mary ???? b-1856-d-1928 CHILDREN OF ABOVE Ethelbert Banjamin Frey Sr. -b1883-d-1970 + Gertrude Squires Brown -b-1885 d-19??

My great-grandfather (and his three sons) worked as coal miners in western Pennsylvania. Everyone currently alive thought that he and my great-grandmother were married in Windber (PA) and all their children were born there - my grandfather (the oldest - born 1906) always believed that. Well, no records exist of the family in Pennsylvania before 1912! My grandfather and his brother were NOT born in Windber, nor were my great-grandparents married there. They deliberately mislead their own children. Not only that, but g-grandfather was rich. He always had the biggest car in town - if somebody bought a bigger one, he'd have to go out a get a new one. They also owned a brass bed - at a time when only the biggest of the mine bosses had brass beds. He lost all his money during the Great Depression. If he was so rich, why the heck was he working in a coal mine? And why did he mislead his own children about when he came to the US, and where they were born? Now THOSE are secrets I'd love to know! Thanx, Paul paulochi@alpha.betac-stl.com

Carol Dunn wrote: > > I've been trying to get the Naturalization papers for 2 great-grandfather's > and my grandfather for over a year. I've written at least six letters to > different places, I get the run around everywhere. Anyone have any luck at all? > Carol Carol, Do you know where your g'parents were living when they were naturalized? The County Courthouse will have those documents. I recently received my g'father's naturalization papers. The county is the key. Good luck, jean

I've been trying to get the Naturalization papers for 2 great-grandfather's and my grandfather for over a year. I've written at least six letters to different places, I get the run around everywhere. Anyone have any luck at all? Carol At 07:18 AM 4/6/97 -0700, you wrote: >Diana Begeman wrote: >> >> Thanks. Do you know what information you need to get someone's naturalization papers? Do you have to know the year or what? >> >> Diana >> >> ---------- >> From: Joanne[SMTP:tjk@CSRLINK.NET] >> Sent: Monday, March 17, 1997 11:37 AM >> To: GEN-SLAVIC@MAIL.EWORLD.COM >> Subject: Naturalization records. >> >> This is in response to several questions in the past concerning the process >> of naturalization. It is taken from the March 1997 issue of Nas~e Rodina, >> the newsletter of The Czechoslovak Genealogical Society International: >> >> .....An act of 29 January 1795, replacing the first act of 1790, required >> that a declaration of intention be filed three years before admission as a >> citizen, and residence of five years in the United States and one in the >> state where the naturalization took place..... >> >> .....Since 1790 children under the age of twenty-two years have become >> citizens automatically by naturalization of the parent. Until 1922, a wife >> became naturalized upon the citizenship conferred her husband, and no >> separate filings were necessary. After an act of 22 September 1922 a >> married woman had to be naturalized on her own..... >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------- > >I sent for mine from IRAD with just the name and date of birth. They >searched a 20 year period in their Soundex index. But I don't think any >of them are mine. >Liz > >

I am looking for any information on FREY,CHAR,MACKIN

Hi I am nearing the point of submitting a request to the Czech State District Archives to help find my Havlena family genealogical roots in Zahrobi, Bohemia. My question here is - what is a "suggested" maximum dollar limit to specify that might produce "decent" results?? I realize that this is a very indefinite question, but perhaps I can get at least a "ballpark" idea of what to expect for a given amount of money? Thank you very much Dennis Havlena -W8MI Straits of Mackinac northern Michigan dhavlena@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu

Again, as to why they were so secretive... My grandparents came from Poznan, 'Germany' (remember Poland didn't exist as a country for quite a while) before 1900. My father was born in the USA, but he didn't want me to even try for a penpal in Poland when I was little, for 'fear' that they would say they were related (when they weren't) & want money or be sponsored to this country. My mother's grandparents came from Poland & my mother doesn't even know from where cuz her grandfather totally refused to talk about it. Maybe some people were a bit less than honest on some of their papers & were afraid of being found out. Maybe they just didn't trust anyone for fear of 'the authorities' (like back home) where for any reason you could wind up in trouble & be back in the old country. People are still secretive. My cousin is tracing her mother's side of the family & found an actual cousin in Poland, who, after the 1st letter back, won't respond to her anymore. The woman in Poland is still alive, but she just won't respond.

Hello. Sorry to pester the group in general about this but know of no other way. My E-mail server crashed and I lost 150 stored and un-read messages!! Several folks responded to my inquiry asking for information about the Havlicek Lodge that I posted here, but all these messages were lost! Could anyone who responded kindly respond once more? This would be greatly appreciated! Dennis Havlena dhavlena@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu

Hello Claudette, >I would like to know if anyone has any information in regards to where >the >surname >Robicek or Robichek originated from. Please email me at >cmmoran@stkate.edu. I would suppose that the name is of slav origin. Either Czech, Slovak or possibly Ukrainian are good bets. Say Hi to my daughter, Natalie Amundsen at St Kate's. William Anikouchine Santa Barbara CA

Would anyone be able to identify the country of origin for this surname, Mugarle. Thanks, in advance. Paul pmagnusson@kiwi.dep.anl.gov

I would like to know if anyone has any information in regards to where the surname Robicek or Robichek originated from. Please email me at cmmoran@stkate.edu. Thank you very much! Claudette Moran cmmoran@stkate.edu

J Bickers wrote: A number of people, though, have told me they experienced roadblocks in getting information > from their immigrant grandparents, etc., where there was no known break > with the family. > Jill, I agree with you. My g'parents had the same philosophy. "We are in America now, and we speak English". My mother has almost no stories about her parents, nor did my father about his. When and if they did talk about the old country, they did it in their old language and to their friends. Consequently, I, at least, have no idea if there are any relatives left in the old country, or even any who came to this country. I hope when my husband and I are in Slovakia, we will find something in church records or archives, and hopefully, relatives! jean schmidt SEARCHING: GULOSH, GULAS - ZEMPLEN KENDERES, KENDRISH - HOMOK HALAS, HALASZ - GOMOR KONTRA - SZATMAR SOVARI - BUDAPEST LANGOR - ? AUSTRO-HUNGARIAN EMPIRE LENGYEL - KLUCARKY

<< Subject: Re: Surname Czajka - common?? >In Russian the word means 'seagull'. Here in UK we have many Poles > with the surname Czaika / Czajka That's interesting! Now when I hit the beach, I'll have to say something nice about all my relatives hanging out and begging for food! Thanks for the reply! Marguerite

A number of people I know have had similar experiences with getting any information from immigrants who came over to the U.S. near the end of the last century. These immigrants were always prone to silence when it came to talking about their experiences, families, etc. Was there something going on in Poland, Bohemia, and Lithuania in the 1890's that made these people afraid to talk? Were they afraid they would get someone in trouble? Were THEY the ones they thought would get in trouble? I'd like to know what made these immigrants so tight-lipped about their origins. Sandy Sandra Rozhon <srozhon@cybergate.net> Searching: ROZHON, WANICKI, MYCZKOWSKI, HORWATH, JEMIOLA, KAPUSTA JASKOVE, SYKORY, VANECKA, JASKA, DUBEC Bojesice, Mirovice, Vystrkov, Ostrov, Rakovice, Zalozany, Zebrakov, Zahorany (BOHEMIA) Skalat & Mielec, Przemysl Noi Miasto (POLAND) Sapiergiskis, Kaunas, Klaipeda, Memel (LITHUANIA)

Hi, Sandy: Well, my grandfather was very tightlipped about his past, but since he'd quarreled with his family that was understandable. A number of people, though, have told me they experienced roadblocks in getting information from their immigrant grandparents, etc., where there was no known break with the family. I think one of the things that is operating here is that there was tremendous pressure to Americanize as quickly as possible. Also, for many people, perhaps it was too painful for them to remember and/or talk about their past. Going back was not an option they wanted to explore, or perhaps could explore. Jill ---------- > From: Sandra Rozhon <srozhon@CYBERDRIVE.NET> > To: GEN-SLAVIC@MAIL.EWORLD.COM > Subject: Why were immigrants so secretive? > Date: Monday, April 07, 1997 2:16 PM > > A number of people I know have had similar experiences with getting > any information from immigrants who came over to the U.S. near the > end of the last century. These immigrants were always prone to > silence when it came to talking about their experiences, families, > etc. Was there something going on in Poland, Bohemia, and Lithuania > in the 1890's that made these people afraid to talk? Were they > afraid they would get someone in trouble? Were THEY the ones they > thought would get in trouble? I'd like to know what made these > immigrants so tight-lipped about their origins. > > Sandy > > > Sandra Rozhon <srozhon@cybergate.net> > > Searching: > ROZHON, WANICKI, MYCZKOWSKI, HORWATH, JEMIOLA, KAPUSTA > JASKOVE, SYKORY, VANECKA, JASKA, DUBEC > Bojesice, Mirovice, Vystrkov, Ostrov, Rakovice, Zalozany, Zebrakov, Zahorany (BOHEMIA) > Skalat & Mielec, Przemysl Noi Miasto (POLAND) > Sapiergiskis, Kaunas, Klaipeda, Memel (LITHUANIA)

Please add my family homepage to your list, Thanks At 03:10 PM 4/6/97 GMT, you wrote: >Hello! > >I'm starting up a new page just for genealogy links, family pages, etc. >If you have a page that you would like to list, drop me a line and let me >know & I will post it for you! Let me know any ideas or suggestions that >you have, too!! > >Please visit and let me know what you think!! > >Thanks alot!! > >Shell >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >GeneaLinks >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/6573 > > Connie Szwarc Schartner, North Braddock Pa E-mail rsms91b@prodigy.com & schartner@usaor.net **************************************************************************** *********************************************** Visit the Szwarc homepage is: http://www.abci.net/~szwarc/szwarc.html **************************************************************************** *********************************************** Researching: From: village of Posada Gorna, Rymanow Poland: SZWARC MASNIK BOLANOWSKI ZIEMBICKI >From the village of Wydrna, (Dydnia, Krosno) Poland: MAZUR PAWLOWSKI HERMAN PAJECKA >From the village of Kravany, Spis county, Slovakia, near Poprad: AMBROS CSIZMAR DRAGOS FABARIK GAVALIR HRONEC HUDAC HUSZAR LIPTAK KACASVINSZKY / KACVINAR KRACUN LAVRINE LUDVIK MALATIN MICHLIK MLINAROVA PAVLICSKO / PAVLICKO SCHUSTER / SHUSTER SKOKAN / SZKOKAN STEFKO SZVITAN TALLAX / TALLAZ TOMAJKO URBAN ZELINA ZEMAN ZMOK

I had been told that the meaning of the name is "of the old city". Can anyone verify this and tell me what city it refers to? Jerusalem? Thanks. Paula Starr Sherrin

I was told by a German professor that my name HOFERKA meant farmer of a little plot, perhaps tenant farmer, my ancestors presumably were peasants and did not own the land they toiled over. Grandparents from NE Slovakia in Nitra county, villages of Stepanov and Unin. Please email me diretly at slovakbk@aol.com. Dakujem velmi pekne. Dovidenia.

Kazmierz KOLODZIEJSKI (b-1832) & Barbara ANUSZEWSKI (dau of Michal). Jacob KOLODZIEJSKI (b-1860) & Maryann SLOWKOWSKI Jerome KOLODZIEJSKI (b-1885) Magdalene Marie KOLODZIEJSKI (b-1863) & John TOLODZIECKI Felix TOLODZIECKI (b-1885) Walter TOLODZIECKI (b-1889) Frank KOLODZIEJSKI (b-1875) Mary KOLODZIEJSKI Joseph KOLODZIEJSKI (2 or 3 younger children) Family living in Lipno in 1863. Emigrated in 1890(+/-) to Baltimore, MD, USA. Seeking any info on family in Poland. I have detailed info on descendants in USA. -- Paul J. Lareau - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - [POST] 135 E. Viking Dr. #301, Little Canada MN 55117 USA [HOME PAGE] http://www.wavefront.com/~pjlareau/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Opinions expressed herein are my own and may not represent those of my employer.

Hello, You might post the Slovinky, Slovakia page: http://www.iarelative.com/slovinky.htm W. Anikouchine