My cousin's name is Vera. In Greek it means a wedding band. In article <1.5.4.32.19970418061703.006e51ac@mail.global.co.za>, Slavic Genealogy Discussion List <GEN-SLAVIC@MAIL.EWORLD.COM> wrote: > Hello, > I am not searching for a sites giving me the names of Saints - > but for a site that gives me the DATES / DAYS OF SAINTS, > or the Names Day Calender. > For example, because my Christian name is VERA, my Names / Saint's Day is > September 30th - the Day of St Vera (according to the Orthodox religion). > In Russian name-days (IMININY) are more important than birthdays. > For this reason I'd like such a list. > Some names will be bundled into one day, esp. if the saints and martyrs were > related. > eg: 30th September is the day one celebrates the memory of - and those who > are christened after - Saints Vera (Faith), Nadejda/Nadja (Hope), > Luybov/Luyba (Love) and their Mother Sophia (Wisdom). > > Vera Beljakova-Miller > mailto:atacama@global.co.za > > "To err is human, but to really foul things up requires a computer"

Try: http://poniecki.berkeley.edu/data/polish/varia/p.imiona At 10:10 PM 4/22/97 -0500, you wrote: >My cousin's name is Vera. In Greek it means a wedding band. > > > >In article <1.5.4.32.19970418061703.006e51ac@mail.global.co.za>, Slavic >Genealogy Discussion List <GEN-SLAVIC@MAIL.EWORLD.COM> wrote: > >> Hello, >> I am not searching for a sites giving me the names of Saints - >> but for a site that gives me the DATES / DAYS OF SAINTS, >> or the Names Day Calender. >> For example, because my Christian name is VERA, my Names / Saint's Day is >> September 30th - the Day of St Vera (according to the Orthodox religion). >> In Russian name-days (IMININY) are more important than birthdays. >> For this reason I'd like such a list. >> Some names will be bundled into one day, esp. if the saints and martyrs were >> related. >> eg: 30th September is the day one celebrates the memory of - and those who >> are christened after - Saints Vera (Faith), Nadejda/Nadja (Hope), >> Luybov/Luyba (Love) and their Mother Sophia (Wisdom). >> >> Vera Beljakova-Miller >> mailto:atacama@global.co.za >> >> "To err is human, but to really foul things up requires a computer" > >

My Polish is improving. I'm not looking for the All Saints Church, but now would like to know if there is a Chicago church: St. John Cantius aka sw. Jana Kantego. TIA, Dennise Larson

last name carr, was registered in this country at ellis island as zarr. also last name heidel settled outside of phil. pa. thanks dona zarr

On Fri, 4 Apr 1997 04:13:25 -0500, in soc.genealogy.slavic you wrote: Shirley, I just wanted to say that your post was a real eye opener for me. I am of the same generation. My Polish grandparents were born in Poland around 1890 and the whole family was EXTREMLY tight liped liped. I never did understand why until now! No wonder I can't trace that side of the tree with personal information. Thanks for sheding a light on this mystery. At 02:16 PM 4/7/97 -0500, you wrote: > Was there something going on in Poland, Bohemia, and Lithuania >>in the 1890's that made these people afraid to talk? Were they >>afraid they would get someone in trouble? Were THEY the ones they >>thought would get in trouble? I'd like to know what made these >>immigrants so tight-lipped about their origins. >> >>Sandy > >I've talked to older family members about this (my father and his =========== HTTP://Home1.GTE.Net/grampi/generations.htm ========= GENERATIONS: R.S. Bujaki's Home Page One grandson's tribute to his Polish and Hungarian immigrant heritage. Everything you ever wanted to know about Hungarians and Poles can be found here. ===============================================================

>I would like to locate a parish, Kraczkawa, diocese of Przemys'l and > deanery of L~an'cut listed on a baptismal certificate in 1904. The only > map I have is a Polish Road Atlas with a scale of 1:750,000 and this village > is not listed so could anyone help me on locating it in relation to some of > the villages that may appear on my map? >Thank you in advance >Joanne It's about 5 km southwest of Lancut, and about the same distance northwest of Albigowa. Does that help fix it? Joe armata@vms.cis.pitt.edu

This aggravating type of post comes from outside GEN-SLAVIC, anyone can post to newsgroups, but you have to subscribe to receive GEN-SLAVIC mail. GEN-SLAVIC/soc.genealogy.slavic subscribers are most exemplary in their postings, a really great group doing serious genealogy. In my opinion, moderation would be out of place. Having said this, moderating GEN-SLAVIC would have no effect on junk mail coming in from outside, except to satisfy pranksters that their posts are actually noticed. I know this might not seem like very much of a solution, but the best way to deal with the junk mail is to ignore it. Rest assured if anyone were to subscribe and then post pornography, I would not hesitate to delete the name from the list, with a very good paper trail to justify my action. Margaret Sheremata sherema@vax2.concordia.ca GEN-SLAVIC Listowner On Tue, 22 Apr 1997, Carol Harbushka wrote: > I agree, I am disgusted by this blatant solicitation of pornography. > However, I am also concerned that none of us has the time nor the > inclination to act as moderator/censor to filter out this type of slime. > I would prefer that we continue as a modest sized, unmoderated group. > We do not have to follow the links of these sub-human smut peddlers, nor > the other techno-merchandisers who occasionally annoy us with their > offerings. Just my two cents worth. > Carol Harbushka > > Searching for BENCUR or HRABUSA in Jasenova/e/o, Slovakia >

I agree, I am disgusted by this blatant solicitation of pornography. However, I am also concerned that none of us has the time nor the inclination to act as moderator/censor to filter out this type of slime. I would prefer that we continue as a modest sized, unmoderated group. We do not have to follow the links of these sub-human smut peddlers, nor the other techno-merchandisers who occasionally annoy us with their offerings. Just my two cents worth. Carol Harbushka Searching for BENCUR or HRABUSA in Jasenova/e/o, Slovakia

On Mon, 21 Apr 1997, Ralph Lewis wrote: > I subscribe to this list - and was wondering if it is available in digest form? Yes, several subscribers are receiving in digest form. For information on this and other commands send an "INFO REFCARD" messaage to LISTSERV@MAIL.EWORLD.COM Margaret Sheremata sherema@vax2.concordia.ca GEN-SLAVIC Listowner > > > Ralph Lewis, Harrisburg, PA - rllewis@usa.net (also RalphLewis@aol.com) > Researching: > KHATCHKALEVITZ/CHATCHKALEVITZ/LEVIN (Vilna, Svencionys?, Argentina, South > Africa) RUDNITZKY (Svencionys) MATZKIN (Svencionys) > ROCHAKOVSKY/ROCKOFSKAYA/ROCKOFF (Slutsk,Nowy Schwertzen,Shervzna,Grosova) > BRUKARZ/BROOKS (Lomza,Ohio,Calif,TX,Australia,France) GOLDENBERG(Lomza), SALANT > JACUBOVICZ/JACOBSON (Pultusk,Lomza) ROSEN(Switzerland,Poland [Pultusk?],Russia) > SCZUPAK/LEWIS/LOUIS (Nesne; Volkovisk; Galveston & Houston, TX; Kansas) > STENBECK(sp?)(Unknown) > KAMYKOWSKI(Tarnow,Piotrkowice,Bialystok,Nowy Targ,Gieraltowiec,Crakow, > PA,MA, NJ,IL,MI,CT,FL) > ---------- > Do you believe in Macintosh? Check out the EvangeList web site at: > <http://www.evangelist.macaddict.com/> >

On Thu, 17 Apr 1997 18:36:33 -0700, in soc.genealogy.slavic you wrote: >Is there an All Saints Church in Chicago? >Dennise Yes there is

Joanne wrote: > > >I would like to locate a parish, Kraczkawa, diocese of Przemys'l and > deanery of L~an'cut listed on a baptismal certificate in 1904. The only > map I have is a Polish Road Atlas with a scale of 1:750,000 and this village > is not listed so could anyone help me on locating it in relation to some of > the villages that may appear on my map? > > > >Thank you in advance > >Joanne > > Hi Joanne, Try MapQuest on the Net with your browser; it finds some of the smallest towns. Regards, Bonnie Cieslukowski Weissman

Thanks Dan. My grandparents were married in what may be one of the churches you listed. The marriage certificate is in Polish and there is a color drawing of the church, complete with a horse drawn carriage passing in front. It was found in the attic of their home this past summer. They were married in 1915. Thanks again, Dennise

There is enough garbage out there, I didn't subscribe to this listing for that reason. If I want garbage I'll go to the dump!! Dan

At 12:36 PM 4/21/97 -0400, you wrote: >Wynona- >I don't have any information on the Kralicek family but you might try Edith >Jenista in Caldwell, KS. She may have some information on Joseph. Her >address is: > > Edith Jenista > 209 N. Saint George Street > Caldwell, KS 67022 > Telephone: 316-845-6601 > >Hope this might help. >Mel > Thank you for sending the information, it is greatly appreciated. I will write her today. Wynona

For years I assumed that my Grandfather was born in Poland.. I even found another CHUDERSKI currently living in Poland. As I began to dig I found out some things that have really confused me and has brought me to a complete stop. 1. My Grandfather was born in Lwow, Poland ..Jan. 30, 1886, Now I find out... Lwow was a part of the "Russian Partition" , is now called Lviv and is located in the Ukraine. 2. Digging I found out that Ch in Polish is pronounced as an H... now I understand that my Grandfather spoke English when he came to this country... and since I cannot find any reference to CHUDERSKI... I ask myself if I should look for HUDERSKI or some such spelling? IF there is anyone out there who can shed some light on my confusion....PLEASE help. Thomas Chuderski OR is it Huderski? :) Grandfather was Jaroslaw Ignacy Chuderski b. 1/30/1886 Lwow Poland d. Brooklyn NY date: approx 1972 Married Sabina ? Paszkiewicz 2/14/1909 Probably in either PA, NJ, or NY Sabina Paszkiewicz b. Sunoco(?) Poland 8/8/1885.d. Brookly NY date: 24 June, 1974 Mother was Eleanora Dumbrowska, Father was Emil Paszkiewicz.

>I too had always assumed that in the west the saint's feasts were >celebrated on uniform dates from country to country. Perhaps this >is true on the ecclesial level. But when I examined the Czech and >Slovak name-day calendars, I found them celebrating a given saint >on completely different dates. How could this be if the saint's >days don't vary from country to country? I wish I had those two calendars >at my fingertips so I could cite a specific example, but unfortunately >I don't. But anyone who gets his hands on the two calendars >will readily see what I am pointing out. Saint XYZ on the Czech calendar >his his/her feast in March, and the very same Saint on the Slovak calendar >is celebrated in August or November, for example. This is what I find >puzzling. Can anyone explain it? >Gary N. Deckant >bs039@yfn.ysu.edu >Youngstown, Ohio Perhaps your words "on the ecclesial level" provide the key to this question. In the Roman Catholic Church, the central authority is responsible for all "official" saint's days. In othe rwords, there are "official saints' days" and then there are "names days" which are more traditional than official. After the Second Vatican Council, the church revised its calendar of saints days and moved many of them, especially the older, lesser-known ones -- thus shifting emphasis to the more modern saints. However the tradition of names days was too well established to be changed, many people and even churches continue to celebrate their names days on the traditional dates, even though the "official" mass of that day is for an entirely different saint. The Vatican does permit such substitutions, with certain limitations. One example is the feast of SS. Cyril and Methodius, who are, by tradition, considered to have brought Christianity to the eastern Slavic countries, and are co-patrons of Slovakia. Their feast was transferred from July 7 to Feb. 14 (formerly Valentine's Day -- St./Mr. Valentine was officially "de-emphasized"). I believe the old date is still observed in Slovakia while the new date is observed almost everywhere else. Joe

I am getting very tired of these unsolicited emails we've been getting on genslav lately too. I believe this is an unmoderated list, so I realize that there is not external control over the contents of our messages. Maybe it's time we install a moderater? I have been deleting these messages as soon as they arrive, but an invitation to view pornography is a pretty upsetting thing to show up in our boxes. Jill ---------- > From: Paula Lichvar <plichvar@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU> > To: GEN-SLAVIC@MAIL.EWORLD.COM > Subject: Re: BEST SITES ON THE WEB!!! A MUST SEE!!!!!! > Date: Monday, April 21, 1997 5:32 AM > > Who is this Me someone sending references on adult material to the > Gen-Slavic list???? Is this the best site on the WEB - definitely not > - only for the losers who can't get it otherwise. > I resent this as I am sure others do to. I assume this is some > ???? blindly sending to anyone and everything, and I hope not a fellow > Slav.

I have two things to bring before you today! Besides bdm, property record and census, what kind of records might there be in Poland to search for in the Galicia area? I sent money to Alleimun (sp) in January and have not hear! can someone tell me when they come out? Gayle

Wynona- I don't have any information on the Kralicek family but you might try Edith Jenista in Caldwell, KS. She may have some information on Joseph. Her address is: Edith Jenista 209 N. Saint George Street Caldwell, KS 67022 Telephone: 316-845-6601 Hope this might help. Mel

>I would like to locate a parish, Kraczkawa, diocese of Przemys'l and deanery of L~an'cut listed on a baptismal certificate in 1904. The only map I have is a Polish Road Atlas with a scale of 1:750,000 and this village is not listed so could anyone help me on locating it in relation to some of the villages that may appear on my map? > >Thank you in advance >Joanne >