On Tue, 14 Jul 1998, Elaine T. Maddox wrote: > Don't answer it and delete it. All lists suffer from occasional spam. I > am not sure all lists are monitored. > Doug G. Storie wrote: > > > Why are we being bombarded by SPAM on this list? Do the moderators pay > > attention? I'm being solicited to borrow money. Elaine is correct - most of the genealogy lists are not moderated, including Gen-Slavic. All lists do get the occasional spam, as do individuals. For those who are new to mailing lists, the conventional advice is, ignore! Toss out the junk mail, and above all, do not respond to the perpetrator. Margaret Sheremata [email protected] GEN-SLAVIC Listowner

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In a message dated 98-07-18 13:33:09 EDT, [email protected] writes: << My name is Ana Sandoval and I am looking for the Sushkov family in Ukraine in a town named Chernigov (or similar). Thank you! >> Can't help you with your surname...but CHERNIGOV is located in Ukraine found at 51�30' / 31�18' It was also known as Czernihow and Tschernigov. Susanne

I am new to these lists so I'll start with the info I have. My grandmother was born Pelahia Kapyna in Oct. 1892 Austria. We now beleive the area of her birth is near/in Galacia area -Ukraine. She used to talk about L'vov and some other cities she would visit. Our family isn't really sure which country to start with as her naturalization certificate(1940 United States)states place of birth as Poland. She came to the United States in 1908 through New York. Worked there for awhile-went down to Florida and ended up in California by 1940. She had an uncle somewhere in Canada at the time she came to the U.S. We have no info on her family other than her mother's first name was Anna. Her father married a 2nd time-don't know what happened to Anna. She had a Brother? named Paul. Paul may have been father or uncle. Big ????? here. She was Catholic. Is there Greek Orthodox in that area of Europe? I think that is what she told me. So--am I looking in the right place on the globe? Does this surname sound familiar to anyone? Any helpful suggestions? Any help in ANY area would be appreciated. Thanks Debbie

My name is Ana Sandoval and I am looking for the Sushkov family in Ukraine in a town named Chernigov (or similar). Thank you!

In a previous article, [email protected] ("k.esplin") says: >I have an elusive Hungarian ancestor. We thought we knew where he was >(Sarospatak, Bereg, Hungary), but I searched every birth record, and he >wasn't there. During his life, he was very secretive about his origins, >so I suspect we may have guessed the wrong place. > >Question-- Is there some sort of index of Hungarian persons?.... Like a >Hungarian version of the AIS? >(Yeah, yeah, dream on....) > >His vitals... > >Charles (Karoly) Marton >born Oct 26 1886 in ???? Hungary >Immigrated without parents to US sometime before 1907-- rumored to have come >through Canada >First record of him is found -- marriage, 1907, West Virginia coal mining >areas >Parents listed on Catholic marriage certificate as >Karoly Marton and Maria Kurscivis My situation is similar to yours. Grandfather immigrated alone from Hungary in 1907, landed at Ellis Island, whereabouts uncertain till 1915 (though he told US customs he was bound for Greensburg PA, we never found proof he actually went there). Married in Youngstown OH in 1915. His obituary in 1949 shows his birthplace as Vilok, Ugocsa, Hungary. This was later found to be inaccurate. He applied for US citizenship in 1937 in Youngstown (why did he wait 30 years? who knows?). He was turned down for citizenship because of lying about a past arrest, but the application is still on file at the court house annex. The citizenship application shows the name of his actual village, which is several km outside of Vilok; also the name of the ship he arrived on, and the date of arrival. An interesting twist--his landing record shows him under his "real" name, which we corroborated via a family bible, but he began using an americanized name early on. The "American" name he chose was "Martin", similar to yours Marton. My suggestion is to check his naturalization record, even if he wasn't naturalized. He may have applied but never completed the process for whatever reason. -- Gary N. Deckant [email protected] Youngstown, Ohio

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (GMC0633) wrote: >Slama is Czech/Moravian/Slovak. slama (with diacritic over "a") means 'hay, >straw'. Related Polish form is sloma. >J.Piszczor Not quite, Sla'ma = Straw, not Hay. Seno = Hay, OK? Paul JK. -- Know what's weird? Day by day nothing seems to change, but pretty soon everything is different.

Hi! My friend has the surname of Zerbe and would be interested in any info he could get on this name. He's not sure if it's Serbian or perhaps Polish? Which soc.culture newsgroup should we query? thanks! :wq . -- gary jasdzewski dept. of english (linguistics) purdue university http://omni.cc.purdue.edu/~garyjaz

I have an elusive Hungarian ancestor. We thought we knew where he was (Sarospatak, Bereg, Hungary), but I searched every birth record, and he wasn't there. During his life, he was very secretive about his origins, so I suspect we may have guessed the wrong place. Question-- Is there some sort of index of Hungarian persons?.... Like a Hungarian version of the AIS? (Yeah, yeah, dream on....) His vitals... Charles (Karoly) Marton born Oct 26 1886 in ???? Hungary Immigrated without parents to US sometime before 1907-- rumored to have come through Canada First record of him is found -- marriage, 1907, West Virginia coal mining areas Parents listed on Catholic marriage certificate as Karoly Marton and Maria Kurscivis Any advice welcome!!

If you go to Control Panel/Keyboard/Input Locale you can add additional keyboard languages. There is a block you can check that will put an indicator on the task bar tray tht shows what language is being used. Then you just click on it to change back and forth. Good Luck, dick larsen boise, idaho Ralph SOBEK wrote: > Is there something in or for Windows 95 that will show you the current > keyboard configuration in a window, if one selects an alternate > keyboard such as German, or Czech, etc. > > In order to handle these different character sets, one should get > LANG.EXE from Microsoft. It'll give you many different keyboards and > the Arial, Courier, and New Times Roman fonts acceptable for at least > a dozen languages. > > Please reply by e-mail, if at all possible, and I will summarize to > the net if interest warrants. > > --Ralph > -- > Dr. Ralph P. Sobek [email protected], [email protected] > IRIT [email protected], [email protected] > 118, route de Narbonne / 31062 Toulouse Cedex / France > Ph:(+33)[0]561558618 FAX:(+33)[0]561556258 http://www.irit.fr/SSI/~Ralph.Sobek/ > =============================================================================== > Research: SOBEK, BAIER/BEIER, BERANEK, BREHLER/BRDHLER/PRELER, BUSCH, DACHSEL, > DANEHL, ECKARD, FAUST, FREBEL/FREVEL/FRVBEL, GDRTNER, HOMANN, HOSENFELD, > H\BNER, JOST, KOLB, KREJKA/KREJCI, KRESS, KUDELA, LANG, METZ, MVLLER, PFEIL, > RIEMENSCHNEIDER, SCHAUB, SCHEIBELHUT, SCHMID, SCHNEIDER, SCHRIMPF, SUKUP, > TENENBAUM, TESARIK, VON KEITZ, and SMOLIKOWSKI, etc.

David Millman wrote: > How do you look something up in the Family History > Library's copy of the Hamburg passenger lists > using the date and ship name rather than the indexes? I don't remember exactly, but your FHC should have a copy of the research guide "Hamburg Passenger Lists" which I believe explains that. The guide is either free or costs 25 cents (in the USA). You are correct about the Hamburg list giving more exact location information (in many cases, anyway). When I was looking for my son-in-law's ancestor, the Hamburg lists gave the name of the small town in Germany he came from, as well as his occupation. Merritt

PLEASE PLACE NOTICE OF THIS PROJECT IN THE NEWSLETTERS OF YOUR LOCAL GENEALOGY SOCIETY, HISTORICAL SOCIETY, OR VETERANS GROUPS AND LOCAL NEWSPAPERS ------------------------------------------------ History of Milam County, Texas War Dead is Being Written Houston, Texas -- Two hundred sixty stories. All tragic and each ending with the death of a father, son, brother or other loved one far from home. Lynna Kay Shuffield who lives in Houston, Texas is working on a project entitled "Milam County, Texas: List of Honor -- Individuals Who Have Given Their Lives in the Defense of their Country from World War I through Vietnam." Shuffield wants these war heroes to be remembered. She is researching the U.S. military and naval records on each soldier and sailor from Milam County who died while serving his country in World War I, World War II, the Korean War, and the Vietnam War. Her goal is to uncover everything she can about Milam County's war dead before it's too late. It is a nightmare to attempt to locate records which are sometimes 50 to 80 years old. Military and federal archival records involved are viewed as "worthless" by some government bureaucrats and agencies, one of whom has told Shuffield the records should be destroyed. That's a hard sell where Shuffield is concerned as she attempts to write a complete biographical sketch on each of the Milam County War Dead. We have essentially lost most of the World War I war casualty information because it has passed from living memory and has receded far enough into the distance to provide a challenge to anyone attempting to utilize first-hand documentation. One of the biggest obstacles to the research is the U.S. Military Records Center at St. Louis, Mo. was burned in 1973 and most all military service records were destroyed," she said. "Therefore, it is almost impossible to pull together any information on those who died in the military because the government will not undertake to re-build the service record of any deceased individual. The purpose of my project is to gather as much information that is available from various sources and preserve the history of these young men." Shuffield, a genealogist and author of four books on the subject, credits her inspiration in writing the book to research into her family history. Several family members of her family from Milam County were killed in action, including, Charlie M. Williams in World War I, George R. Knight and O.V. Sheffield in World War II. (His family replaced the "u" with an "e".) "I am trying to preserve the history and heritage of the Milam County War Dead so future generations will know the person is behind a name carved on memorial plaque. We will know how they died and their sacrifice will be preserved. We don't want these memories to perish. We have lost the person. We don't want to lose the memories," Shuffield said. The somber war stories of these heroes' last moments are a direct link to U.S. and world history. "This history and knowledge must be preserved and made available to future scholars and genealogists who from the vantage point of history, can help all of us to remember the sacred sacrifice these noble individuals made for our country," said Shuffield. Committed to history as "steadfast, dependable and aggressive in the defense of their country" Milam County's war heroes were decorated with medals and honors. They perished in prisoner of war camps, at Pearl Harbor, on Korean battlefields, and in the Vietnam provinces of Phuoc Long, Binh Long, Tay Ninh, Thua Thien, Kontum and Hoa Nghia. During World War II, they died in ground fighting or in air combat over Europe. The ocean claimed some through great naval battles in the Pacific, burials at sea or mysterious disappearances. One Milam County native sailed aboard the USS CYCLOPS, a collier during World War I that disappeared at sea in the Bermuda Triangle, she said. Another was aboard the USS HOUSTON (CA-30) when it was sunk by the Japanese in March 1942. This research project is a key to a motherlode of genealogical data and should grow in significance as our need for 20th Century military information increases. Right now, this project is the only one of its kind in the State of Texas and represents a whole new path in genealogical research, with fresh possibilities and discoveries. Shuffield said families are invited to provide information for the project, including photographs, military records, old newspapers stories or obituaries, letters and other documentation. "There will be no charge or fee to any family," she said. "There is so much rich history here. We have few living links to World War I left and our links to World War II are slowly fading. If we don't stop right now and save the material and memories, we are going to lose this history. It's preserve or perish and we need to preserve the history of the Milam County war dead." Anyone knowing family members or is interested in the project is asked to contact Shuffield at (713) 692-4511. Her mailing address is P.O. Box 16604, Houston, Texas 77222. Her e-mail address is [email protected] There is also an Internet web page devoted to the project at: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/2670/ -30- -- Lynna Kay Shuffield P. O. Box 16604 Houston, Texas 77222 telephone: 713/692-4511 e-mail: [email protected] "Milam County, Texas: List of Honor -- Individuals Who Have Given Their Lives in the Defense of Their Country from World War I through Vietnam" http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/2670/

Archive-name: genealogy/new_user Posting-Frequency: 15th of the month Last-Modified: 1997/03/28 Version: 1.6 URL: http://www.meertech.demon.co.uk/genuki/new_user.htm Getting Started --------------- Summary ~~~~~~~ This regular posting contains a list of pointers and suggestions to help somebody who is approaching the subject of Genealogy for the first time. It should be read by anyone who wishes to post to the soc.genealogy.* newsgroup hierarchy. This document is part of a regular series of postings which are sent to all appropriate groups and mailing lists. This particular document is posted on the 15th of every month. The latest version of this document is available from the following locations * Via the WWW at the URL http://www.meertech.demon.co.uk/genuki/new_user.htm * Via email by sending the following message: To: [email protected] Subject: <Leave Blank> get new_user end If you have any comments or changes, or any suggestions for new topics to be included, or you would like to write a note for inclusion in the archive, then please contact John Woodgate, ([email protected]) Contributions by: William Mills, Wes Plouff, Jeff Thompson, Cynthia Van Ness, Doni Wright Changes For This Version (1.7 - 1997/04/21) Minor changes to some of the text Copyright and Disclaimer ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Copyright (c) 1996,1997 by John Woodgate. All rights reserved. This document may be freely redistributed in its entirety without modification provided that this copyright notice is not removed. It may not be sold for profit or incorporated in commercial documents without the prior written permission of the copyright holder. Permission is expressly granted for this document to be made available for file transfer from installations offering unrestricted anonymous file transfer on the Internet. This document is provided AS IS without any express or implied warranty. The author may be contacted at 50 Great Meadow Road, Bradley Stoke, Bristol, BS12 8DA, England. I am new to Genealogy and would like some help. *********************************************** For those just starting to research their family history, these short notes might help: * Visit your local library and read a basic book or two on genealogy. This should give you some basic guidance on the methods to use, and where the information is held. There are many useful introductory books on Genealogy and family history, which will provide you with more complete and coherent guidance as how to get started than you could expect to get merely by posting a series of questions to the newsgroup or mailing list. In many cases specific questions can be answered by library reference materials. * Develop a plan. Think about which lines to follow. You have two parents, four grandparents, eight great-grandparents, and so on. You have to draw the line somewhere. You can use your time better if you develop a plan to guide you. Start with talking with and writing to all your kinsfolk with your questions, (while they are still alive), and do it soon. * Start by talking with, and writing to all your kinsfolk with your questions, (while they are still alive), and do it soon. Overly general questions such as "What do you know about the family's history?" may overwelm your relatives. Asking specific questions (when did you get married? Who were your parents? grandparents? brothers and sisters? Where did you aunts and uncles live?) may get you more information. Use photographs and old family possessions to help get the conversation started. Remember to start this before the last of that generation passes on and takes all that valuable information with them. * Visit your nearest Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (LDS or Mormon) Family History Center. You can find them in the phone directory. The family History Library catalog, on CD-ROM and microfiche, is your key to accessing millions of original records and published genealogical works kept by the Family History Library in Salt Lake City. Microfilms can be rented for research in the local Family History Center for a nominal fee. The local centers have two excellent indexes on CD-ROM: the Ancestral File and the International Genealogical Index (IGI). Neither of these are available via the internet. * Document. You may need to review your sources again, someone may want to verify your research, your work may imply something to someone who will need to access the same records, or someone may need to pick up where you left off. Too many people underestimate, or never consider, the importance of documentation. If you have found information in a reference book, make sure you keep enough reference material to enable you to walk back into the same place five years later, locate the book and find the reference again. * Keep a careful record of what searches you have done so far, even if you found nothing. It may well save you from searching the same record or source again in the future. * Don't sell your project short. You might start this with the idea of just finding a handful of people just for your own interest, only to find it blossom into a lifelong study. If you begin with some planning, some learning, and good documentation, then nothing is lost if it stays a small project, but you will reap great dividends if your little project turns into a big one. Remember that it is not uncommon to drop the project for 5 or 10 years and then go back to it again. * Be prepared to step back and catch your breath. When you look at the ambitions for your project and think about the effort involved, or when you are faced with dozens of trails that you want to follow, it may seem like trying to move a mountain with a teaspoon. When that happens, take some time to remind yourself that this is supposed to be fun, then do some more planning to get back on track. * Watch for all the FAQs which are posted to the various newsgroups and mailing lists. These Frequently Asked Questions (and their answers) should answer most of your initial problems. A good place to start is the Meta-FAQ. This lists all the FAQs and other regular postings and you can get the latest version from the following locations + Via the WWW at the URL http://www.meertech.demon.co.uk/genuki/meta-faq.htm + Via email by sending the following message: To: [email protected] Subject: <Leave Blank> get meta-faq end * Don't expect too much from online resources. Usenet, mailing lists and other online discussion forums work best when someone needs to overcome a stumbling block or an arcane problem. other online resources include name matching and query services, software and files describing topics in genealogy from the very general, to the very specific. However, they offer scattered coverage and are often unfocused. A good rule of thumb is that newsgroups, etc., only become useful after you start having difficultly finding your ancestors by conventional means. * Many people learn of a certain index or book that may be useful to their research and immediately jump on the Net and plead for someone to do a look-up for them. These same folks are often unaware that their friendly neighbourhood public or academic librarian can issue a formal interlibrary loan request for the wanted item. Since librarians have access to OCLC, the International Bibliographic Database, and the average researcher does not, they can quickly identify another owning library and send out the request over their networks. It's standard, everyday stuff for the librarians. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- new_user / V1.7 - 1997/04/21 / [email protected]

In a previous article, [email protected] (David Millman) says: > >My question: > >How do you look something up in the Family History >Library's copy of the Hamburg passenger lists >using the date and ship name rather than the indexes? > > The films which carry the actual lists will be found on CD or microfiche directly below the films showing the indexes. You would have had to refer to the film numbers showing the lists even if you had needed to use the indexes first, but, lucky for you, that step has been eliminated. The only hurdle you still have is the fact that the Hamburg passsenger lists are divided into "Direct" and "Indirect". Either way, the films show the lists in chronological order, and since you have the date, you're right, it should be a snap. For a full discussion of this check the FAQ under www.genealogy.com. -- Gary N. Deckant [email protected] Youngstown, Ohio

I am looking for my g-mother Mary POSIPANKA, POSIPANKU, POSIPANIK who left from Bremerhaven in 1900 to come to the US. she was 12 and came with her mother Julia and a sister also Julia. I am truly at a loss since I do not know what port she entered but since she was living in Punxsutawney PA shortly thereafter, I am leaning towards Philadelphia PA. Any help would be much appreciated.

Postal codes /by city/ are available at http://www.poczta-polska.pl/kody/win/kody.html Piotr

I'm running into brick walls and need some help!!! I've been to the LDS Church and have looked at Roman Catholic Church Records but I'm now thinking that the surname CEVIZOVIC that I'm researching is of the Orthodox religion. Does anyone know where I can get Orthodox Church records for around Novska and Dakovo, Croatia from 1865-1900??? Thank you for any and all help. Ruth Stolfer Researching: CEVIZOVIC(could be spelled - Éevizoviæ), LACKOVIC, RUKAVINA

At 12:23 PM 7/16/98 -0400, Ruth Stolfer wrote: >I'm running into brick walls and need some help!!! I've been to the >LDS Church and have looked at Roman Catholic Church Records but I'm >now thinking that the surname CEVIZOVIC that I'm researching is of the >Orthodox religion. Does anyone know where I can get Orthodox Church >records for around Novska and Dakovo, Croatia from 1865-1900??? The Family History Library has been filming extensively in Croatia, most films have been cataloged, but the numbers may not be available yet. My understanding is that a new listing is due within the next month. I would assume, although I don't know, that Orthodox records were filmed as well, wherever available. If they have not been filmed, one would have to write to either the local parish, the Patriarchate in Beograd, or perhaps to the local civil administration (opcina) office, since many church books were moved there after WW II. Hope this helps. Gordon McDaniel [email protected]

Hi, I am researching several names; BRJANIK (later changed to BRANIK), and SHEKETA and BEGAR (BIGAR, BEGHAR), from Sojmy and Maramoros, respectively. KECMAN, SUSTARCIC (or SUSTARIC, SUSTORSIS), KRAKAR, and VOJVODIC, from Yugoslavia or Austria. I received my GGP marriage license application in the mail today and found out that my GGM (SUSTARCIC) was married and divorced before she married my GGF. So now I'm trying to find out if SUSTARCIC was her maiden or first married name. Thank you in advance for any suggestions or ideas. Monika Potemra ____________________ [email protected] Lucky Pug Farm Clarksburg, Maryland

My great-uncle's wife, like him a Lithuanian immigrant to the U.S., was named YUSKAUSKAS. Might this be a variation on the same name? Ron Wencer researching VENCIUS/VENCUS/BONKAITAS?/LIPINSKI/SILAKOWSKI/RASCKA/GUTKOWSKI/BUZYCH/PAPRO CKI/STAFSKI