Linda, the J is probably Jackson County Tenn. I am researching the Jackson and Curtis lines there. Virginia

Thankyou Bruce and Diane for the info on the Source Book...I'll look into it! I also have a question for anyone who has a Geocities email address I am having trouble setting mine up. It won't send any messages. It tells me that I have to authenticate thru POP...Can anyone translate this for me? April Thacher ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Hello Gen Rooters-I have a question & perhaps someone out there can help. I ordered some pages of the Byron-Sistler index of the 1850 census for TN. A relative is listed in there and after the names, it has the following: SC T, J-503-543. I assume SC stands for the 1st person being from So. Caroline and the 2nd person, his wife as being from TN. I THINK probably the "J" stands for a county in TN. There's nothing in the papers to explain this. Does anyone know how I can tell for sure what county in TN they were in at the time of the census? I'd certainly appreciate any enlightenment. Thanks. Linda

Hi Everyone, I am writing up a booklet with a lot of the comments and suggestions on how to do genealogy and research logs etc as we go along. I will get it in to a file to share when its done or if you wish to pay for postage etc I will send the pretty version with colored pictures, sample forms and all the trimmings. It will be a while before it is done and it is going to be titled "GenRooters Mailing List Version of Genealogy on the Internet" Compiled Efforts of all the Gen Rooters Mailing List members (or close to that LOL) It will be your suggestions on the how to's and sharing of ideas on your way of doing things. I will not have all ideas in it, just a sampling of several different methods for things to give the reader a choice of how to do their own. I think it is time to go forward to lessons on how to do genealogy-both off and on the net. Just basic lessons on to expert researching :-) I never know what I am going to say till it comes out so I get confused a lot (haha). Please continue to geive input and ideas on how you do things and what you have learned along the way. It will help others learn-and you will be surprised how much you learn too. I always find lessons to be a very learning experience. Any time you have something to add or comments on what I say -please do so. I am still a novice compared to many of you. I am knowledgeable on the net somewhat but need to improve my methods also. Many of you have been teaching and doing research years longer than I have. I am counting on you helping us newbies :-) LESSON ONE: Start with yourself. You will be surprised how much information you already have in your grasp. Start with yourself. Write down all your pertinent information. Full Name-(If you were named for someone in the family be sure and make a note of who you were named for- any nick names and how you got them too) Date and place of birth- tell all you know about your birth- weight-length, born at home or in a hospital? Who was physician? Who was there? Nowadays, fathers are at the births many times so this would add to the history. When you have written about yourself, go to writing about your parents. Once you get the basic- birth, marriage etc. be sure and include the story of how they met, where they lived when they were first married, what kind of wedding did they have etc. Your siblings come next. Once you have done this, do the same with the information about your grandparents, great-grandparents etc as far as you can. Include pictures and descriptions whenever possible. I feel it is just as important to tell of the lives of these loved ones as much as the dates and places. Family stories add so much to the family history. You should fill out a family group sheet for every marriage in the family. Including siblings for each generation. You will be surprised how much you know already. When you have done all you can, this is the time to start asking relatives for information about the family. Their line as well as what they remember about other family members. Remember to try to get family stories where you can and include pictures wherever possible. Try to get a photocopy of documents, like birth, marriage and death certificates; DD214 forms from the military; confirmation and baptismal records; school records and diplomas; whatever you can find. It is not necessary to have the original unless it is important to you. It is more expensive to get originals. Well, This should be a good starter. Any one have suggestions on things I have forgotten?? Input please. Dianne

---------- > From: April Thacher <athacher@hotmail.com> > To: GEN-ROOTERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [GEN-ROOTERS-L] Family History Source Guide > Date: Saturday, August 22, 1998 2:47 PM > > What is the Family History Source Guide??? > April Thacher > April - The SourceGuide is a CD/ROM disk sold to the public by the Family History Center in SLC. It contains many features. It contains all of the US and foreign Research Outlines published by the Church. Each of these explain how to do research in each state and country. They also tell you where the repositories for records in each area. There is a feature where you indicate what information you are wanting to discover about you line and the Sourceguide will tell you what kind of records to order. Another feature is a genealogy dictionary. The cost is about $20.00. I'm sure there are more features but I haven't discovered them all just yet. Diane Williams

I have just had a fantastic experience with internet genealogical research. If you need any more ammunition in your arguments, feel free to call on me. Caroline House mscldy@dcn.davis.ca.us -- >From the desk of Caroline House http://house.simplenet.com/mom

-- [ From: D. Bruce Robinson * EMC.Ver #2.5.3 ] -- Hi Rooters! I haven't seen this posted, so I thought I'd pass it along. I stopped by the Distribution Center this morning and see that they have marked the price of the Family History Source Guide's down to $10. Because I had put off buying my copy, I saved $10!! Never again will anybody be able to tell me that I shouldn't procrastinate as much as I do!!!! (grin ) (Although I must admit I usually wait too long and the price goes up! !!) Bruce Robinson in West Jordan, UT MDHW55A@Prodigy.com

What is the Family History Source Guide??? April Thacher ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Dear Kaye, I need your own e-mail so I can send you the information without bothering the whole list with it! Thanks, Sherrie

AZDEE@aol.com wrote: Hi Everyone, Let's finish discussing the rest of the 20 ways to avoid genealogy grief from Rootsweb.com. I appreciate the list sent, but I don't have the first part of the ways.... Would someone please e-mail it to me? I would be very grateful. Donna Moldt Walker

Twenty Ways to Avoid Genealogical Grief Here are some suggestions to help beginners prevent misfortune when learning how to do genealogical research. Many of these tips are "old hat" to experienced genealogists, but it is always worthwhile to remind ourselves of the basics of sound research. 1.Always note the source of information that you record or photocopy, and date it too. If the material is from a book, write the name, author, publisher, year of publication, ISBN or ISSN (if it has one), and also the library where you found it (or else photocopy the title page). Occasionally you'll find that you need to refer to a book again, or go back to great aunt Matilda to clarify something she told you. 2.Talk to all your older-generation relatives (before they're all gone and you're the older generation!) Even a distant relative can be a goldmine of information about your ancestors. 3.Make photocopies or keep backups of all letters and e-mail messages you send. This will save you from wondering which of your correspondents' questions you've already answered, and which of your questions they have or haven't answered. 4.Don't procrastinate in responding to letters or messages you receive. If you don't have time to write a detailed reply, send your correspondent a quick message or postcard to acknowledge receipt and tell her/him approximately when you'll send them a more complete reply. Then be sure to write back as you've promised. 5.Make frequent backups of your computer disks. Store your backups and photocopies of your irreplaceable documents where you work or at someone else's home. 6.When searching for relatives in records, don't pass over entries that are almost (but not quite) what you're looking for. For example, if you're searching for the marriage of John Brown and Mary Jones in 1850, make a note of the marriage of John Brown and Nancy Smith in 1847: this could be a previous marriage in which the wife died shortly after. 7.When writing to libraries or to genealogical or historical societies in your areas of interest, ask them for the names and addresses of out-of-print booksellers in the area. Write to the booksellers and ask if they have any old local histories or family histories pertaining to the area. 8.Remember that just because information is on computer or in print, it ain't necessarily fact! Information in recent family histories is often based on that from older published works. If the older books are incorrect, the wrong information simply gets repeated and further disseminated. 9.The earlier the time period in which you're researching, the less consistent our ancestors were about the spelling of their surnames. Also, some of them were illiterate and couldn't tell a record keeper how their names should be spelled. 10.Family traditions of close connections to famous people are usually false, but there may be a more obscure relationship involved. For example, perhaps the famous person spent a night at your ancestor's inn instead of (as the legend goes) marrying into the family. 11.Try not to let your research get behind. Establish a filing system for your papers (using file folders or 3-ring binders) and file each page of notes, document, photocopy, etc. as you acquire it. There are few things more disheartening than contemplating a foot-high stack of unfiled papers, wondering if the birth certificate you desperately need to refer to is buried somewhere in it. 12.Double-check all dates to make sure they are reasonable, for example, a woman born in 1790 could not have become a mother in 1800. 13.Be on the lookout for nicknames. A request for a birth certificate for Sadie White may be rejected by a record office if the name in their files is Sarah White. 14.Beware of mail-order promotions offering what might purport to be a personalized genealogy of your surname with a title like The Amazing Story of the BLANK Family, BLANKs Since the Civil War or Burke's Peerage World Book of BLANKs. These books are not properly researched and documented genealogies; instead they are often little more than lists of names from phone directories or other readily-available sources. Notify the Better Business Bureau, postal authorities and consumer advocate agencies if you receive one of these. For more about these, see the ROOTS-L FAQ file FAQ SCAMS. If you're looking for occurrences of a particular surname, national and international phone listings are widely available on CD-ROM and can be viewed in many public libraries or purchased. 15.Don't assume modern meanings for terms used to describe relationships. For example, in the 17th century a step-child was often called a "son-in-law" or "daughter-in-law," and a "cousin" could refer to almost any relative except a sibling or child. 16.Remember that indexes to books rarely include the names of all persons mentioned in the book and, in addition, occasionally contain errors. If it appears that a book is likely to have valuable information, spend some time skimming its contents rather than returning it to the library shelf after a quick glance at the index. 17.Be precise when making notes and especially when sharing information with others. Write dates using an unambiguous format: Americans interpret 5/6/1881 as 6 May 1881, but in many other countries it would be read as 5 June 1881. Always capitalize or underline surnames, some of which can be mistaken for given names, e.g., HENRY, HOWARD. Note place names in full, including parish or township, county, state or province, and country. 18.You'll often encounter conflicting information, for example, you might discover that your paternal grandmother's birth date on her gravestone is different than her birth date as told to you by your father. Note the source for each piece of information, but don't feel you have to decide immediately which date is the correct one. In fact, both of them may be wrong! Further research may reveal a more credible birth date, for example, the one on her birth certificate. Take time occasionally to review and verify the conclusions you've reached concerning each of your ancestors' lives: this will prevent you from wasting time following blind alleys. 19.Boundaries and place names change constantly over the years. Always verify them in historical atlases or genealogical texts pertaining to the area. For example, the boundaries of Lancaster County, Pennsylvania have changed four times since it was first colonized. 20.Whenever you can, advertise the surnames you're researching by posting them electronically (for example, on the ROOTS-L Surname List) and submitting them to genealogical directories and surname lists published by genealogical societies that you belong to. This will put you in touch with others who are researching the same surnames--possibly for a much longer time--and save you from reinventing the wheel. After all, the most rewarding genealogical research is the kind that no-one else has already done!

Hi Everyone, Let's finish discussing the rest of the 20 ways to avoid genealogy grief from Rootsweb.com. We will then start with some basics in genealogy unless there is something else you would like to discuss. Dianne 3.Make photocopies or keep backups of all letters and e-mail messages you send. This will save you from wondering which of your correspondents' questions you've already answered, and which of your questions they have or haven't answered. 4.Don't procrastinate in responding to letters or messages you receive. If you don't have time to write a detailed reply, send your correspondent a quick message or postcard to acknowledge receipt and tell her/him approximately when you'll send them a more complete reply. Then be sure to write back as you've promised. 5.Make frequent backups of your computer disks. Store your backups and photocopies of your irreplaceable documents where you work or at someone else's home. 6.When searching for relatives in records, don't pass over entries that are almost (but not quite) what you're looking for. For example, if you're searching for the marriage of John Brown and Mary Jones in 1850, make a note of the marriage of John Brown and Nancy Smith in 1847: this could be a previous marriage in which the wife died shortly after. 7.When writing to libraries or to genealogical or historical societies in your areas of interest, ask them for the names and addresses of out-of-print booksellers in the area. Write to the booksellers and ask if they have any old local histories or family histories pertaining to the area. 8.Remember that just because information is on computer or in print, it ain't necessarily fact! Information in recent family histories is often based on that from older published works. If the older books are incorrect, the wrong information simply gets repeated and further disseminated. 9.The earlier the time period in which you're researching, the less consistent our ancestors were about the spelling of their surnames. Also, some of them were illiterate and couldn't tell a record keeper how their names should be spelled. 10.Family traditions of close connections to famous people are usually false, but there may be a more obscure relationship involved. For example, perhaps the famous person spent a night at your ancestor's inn instead of (as the legend goes) marrying into the family. 11.Try not to let your research get behind. Establish a filing system for your papers (using file folders or 3-ring binders) and file each page of notes, document, photocopy, etc. as you acquire it. There are few things more disheartening than contemplating a foot-high stack of unfiled papers, wondering if the birth certificate you desperately need to refer to is buried somewhere in it. 12.Double-check all dates to make sure they are reasonable, for example, a woman born in 1790 could not have become a mother in 1800. 13.Be on the lookout for nicknames. A request for a birth certificate for Sadie White may be rejected by a record office if the name in their files is Sarah White. 14.Beware of mail-order promotions offering what might purport to be a personalized genealogy of your surname with a title like The Amazing Story of the BLANK Family, BLANKs Since the Civil War or Burke's Peerage World Book of BLANKs. These books are not properly researched and documented genealogies; instead they are often little more than lists of names from phone directories or other readily-available sources. Notify the Better Business Bureau, postal authorities and consumer advocate agencies if you receive one of these. For more about these, see the ROOTS-L FAQ file FAQ SCAMS. If you're looking for occurrences of a particular surname, national and international phone listings are widely available on CD-ROM and can be viewed in many public libraries or purchased. 15.Don't assume modern meanings for terms used to describe relationships. For example, in the 17th century a step-child was often called a "son-in-law" or "daughter-in-law," and a "cousin" could refer to almost any relative except a sibling or child. 16.Remember that indexes to books rarely include the names of all persons mentioned in the book and, in addition, occasionally contain errors. If it appears that a book is likely to have valuable information, spend some time skimming its contents rather than returning it to the library shelf after a quick glance at the index. 17.Be precise when making notes and especially when sharing information with others. Write dates using an unambiguous format: Americans interpret 5/6/1881 as 6 May 1881, but in many other countries it would be read as 5 June 1881. Always capitalize or underline surnames, some of which can be mistaken for given names, e.g., HENRY, HOWARD. Note place names in full, including parish or township, county, state or province, and country. 18.You'll often encounter conflicting information, for example, you might discover that your paternal grandmother's birth date on her gravestone is different than her birth date as told to you by your father. Note the source for each piece of information, but don't feel you have to decide immediately which date is the correct one. In fact, both of them may be wrong! Further research may reveal a more credible birth date, for example, the one on her birth certificate. Take time occasionally to review and verify the conclusions you've reached concerning each of your ancestors' lives: this will prevent you from wasting time following blind alleys. 19.Boundaries and place names change constantly over the years. Always verify them in historical atlases or genealogical texts pertaining to the area. For example, the boundaries of Lancaster County, Pennsylvania have changed four times since it was first colonized. 20.Whenever you can, advertise the surnames you're researching by posting them electronically (for example, on the ROOTS-L Surname List) and submitting them to genealogical directories and surname lists published by genealogical societies that you belong to. This will put you in touch with others who are researching the same surnames--possibly for a much longer time--and save you from reinventing the wheel. After all, the most rewarding genealogical research is the kind that no-one else has already done!

Dear All, Just wanted to let everyone know that I'll be unsubscribing for a while as the Northwest pilots are going on strike and my mechanic husband won't be working. I will be going to work so genealogy will go on the back burner for a while. After Sept 1, I will be using my Juno address for e-mail if anyone wants to contact me. kvmitchell@juno.com Thanks to everyone who has helped me in the last year (especially you, Sherrie) and to Dianne for her hard work maintaining the list. I'll be back! Kathie Mitchell

Hi Anita, did visit you Ancestral chart quickly and found that the voting icon is not working and your picture says the URL cannot be found. I like your page very much. Hope you don't hurt yourself moving the computer and all the stuff. Love Ya' Lulita

Pardon my ignorance, but you visited my Ancestral Chart??? Where do I have an Ancestral Chart??? On the internet somewhere? I don't recall putting it there (no wonder my URL won't work!) Is this something I should know about? Are you being sarcastic when you say you like my page very much? (since I don't have one that I know about?) Annette > Hi Anita, did visit you Ancestral chart quickly and found that the voting icon > is not working and your picture says the URL cannot be found. I like your > page very much.

Hello All, I am in the process of moving my computer and papers from one room to another and am finding a lot of old email that I am not sure I got answered. If I have said I would send you something and havent done it please write and let me know. I will do my best to get it sent within the next two weeks -whatever it is. I am so sorry I have fallen so far behind but am determined to catch up!!! Please write for any information or gedcom or what ever you want and I PROMISE I will get it sent. Dianne Curry Morris <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/CurryClanr/inventory.html">Fayette County IL Information</A> <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/CurryClanr/curry.html"> Ancestor Chart</A>

Dear Sherrie, Yes that is me. I am sorry I have not answered. I am very behind in reading this list. My computer needed some new componants and since I do my own work (just cheap I guess) it took a while. I am also in the mdst of a life changing move. Yes I am familiar with White Pigeon. I am going to be working on Genealogy next week. What can I do for you? Grins, KayeAt 03:19 PM 8/4/98 -0700, you wrote: >Dear Kaye, >I apologize for contacting the wrong person, and hope you are the right >person?? Did you offer research in southwest Michigan? I have family that >lived in White Pigeon, Michigan -- is that within your area? >Thanks, Sherrie Wieland > > >==== GEN-ROOTERS Mailing List ==== >Helping each other is how we find our ancestors. Share information with others researching the same surname. > >listowner questions to AZDEE@aol.com > > > > > > One never knows when one tiny piece will pull the puzzle together.

Thanks so much for sharing the information about Canadian research -- it was most helpful! Sherrie Wieland

Have you tried to click on favorites and then add when the page is on you screen. I know it is not as simple but may work. It is kind of like when you want to copy certain things I find if one way doesn't work try another. Some shortcuts may not always be effective.

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_903414979_boundary Content-ID: <0_903414979@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Thought this might be of interest to some of you. Dianne --part0_903414979_boundary Content-ID: <0_903414979@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: <TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-zc02.mx.aol.com ([172.31.33.2]) by air-zc04.mail.aol.com (v48.1) with SMTP; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 23:36:17 -0400 Received: from bl-30.rootsweb.com (bl-30.rootsweb.com [207.113.245.30]) by rly-zc02.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id XAA15593; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 23:18:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-30.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA10354; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 20:14:53 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 20:14:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <35D8F079.55AB@directcon.net> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 20:09:45 -0700 From: tom welch <tomas@directcon.net> Reply-To: tomas@directcon.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; I) Old-To: TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L@rootsweb.com Subject: NEW WEB SERVICE Resent-Message-ID: <"JyXQMB.A.dhC.sGP21"@bl-30.rootsweb.com> To: TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/502 X-Loop: TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L-request@rootsweb.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi everyone, I have just added a new section to the SCOTTISH page website; http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~scottish/ click on the plaque entitled Family Histories and Genealogy Book Mall. The proceeds from both of these efforts will go to Rootsweb. If the listowners would care to pass this along to their subscribers, it would be much appreciated. Thanks, Tom -- Tom Welch Proud Sponsor and Donor to Rootsweb, The worlds largest Genealogical Databank. http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html Are YOU doing YOUR part? The SCOTTISH Page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~scottish/ ******************************************** DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY FAMILY HISTORY SOCIETY Homepage http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~brownfam/dgfhs.html --part0_903414979_boundary--