Carol, I tried your GrannyGump spot to see what CD's were available and it returned message that this site was no longer available. Did you type the right Web address? Wallybaldw@AOL.com

I don't know if this is helpful or redundant --- our page has a section on tracing Mormon pioneers -- you've probably already seen it, but......if not, maybe you'll get lucky. The address is http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/7222 --- then go to the cultural and ethnic page............. We were down in Utah at my daughter's wedding, so I missed the original message.....sorry if this is repetitive. Pam (in Idaho) Gene Warner wrote: > >Someone make a suggestion!! > > Dianne, > Was anyone able to help the lady that needed information on the following? > > Subject: [WARNER-L] MORMON Warners > Does anyone have knowledge of the family which immigrated to Salt Lake City > in the Handcart company listed below? > > Edmund Ellsworth Company Roster > (First Company) > Left Iowa on June 9, 1856 and arrived in Salt Lake City on September 26, 1856 > > Warner, James (60), wife and family > Warner, Ann (49) wife > Warner, Sarah Ann (14) > > Note: This is the only Warner entry found on these rosters of the 10 > handcarts listed. > > ==== GEN-ROOTERS Mailing List ==== > To Post items on one of the mailing lists send it to GEN-ROOTERS-L@rootsweb.com > > listowner questions to AZDEE@aol.com

Hi, I can't remember if I have written you before about your NY and IA ELLIS's, but I 'm searching for William Nelson Ellis born in NY in 1843 and Hallie Dewitt Ellis born in 1879. Do you have any info on them? If I have written you before I'm sorry for bothering you again. Thank You Marilyn ---------- > From: H Petty <dpetty@juno.com> > To: GEN-ROOTERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GEN-ROOTERS-L] Names > Date: Monday, October 19, 1998 11:17 PM > > Along the lines of surnames for given names, it really throws me to find > that with unrelated lines. For example a name like Chapin Woodworth. > Both are surnames I research but in my ancestry they didn't marry. For > just a minute I think I've made a discovery! > > I do like unusual first names. That really helps track people. How > about Galutia, Selah and Cirila for men and Salphira, Zillah, Waity and > Halliet for women? > > > Heidi > dpetty@juno.com > Researching ELLIS (MA,NY,MI, WI, IA, ND) and HERRICK (NY, WI, IA) > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > > ==== GEN-ROOTERS Mailing List ==== > If you wish to change to the digest list send an email to GEN-ROOTERS-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body of the message put the one word SUBCRIBE > To unsubscribe form the list (L or D) send an email to GEN-ROOTERS-(L or D according to which one you are receiving-it is on the top of the emails you receive)request@rootsweb.com put the one word message in the body of the letter-- UNSUBSCRIBE > > listowner questions to AZDEE@aol.com >

> Shelley >> >These little gem come from the SLC Church Distribution Center - 1 800-537-5971 >in the US and Can. >They are new and I know of two titles - 1851 British Census (50096) $.5.00 >SourceGuide (50176) $10.00 There are others. I ordered North American Vital Record Index and it is on back order. I copied the message below from another mailing list. >> September 28, 1998 >> SALT LAKE CITY, Utah (September 28, 1998) -- Millions of family >> records dating back more than 450 years are being made available to >> the public today in two CD-ROM packages by The Church of Jesus Christ >> of Latter-day Saints, the world's foremost authority on genealogy. >> The North American Vital Records Index and the British Isles Vital >> Records Index contain church, civil and parish records from the United >> States, Canada and the countries of England, Wales, Scotland and >> Ireland. >> "These new CDs may save families hundreds of hours of time and >> painstaking research," said Elder D. Todd Christofferson, executive >> director of the Church's Family History Department. "The process is as >> simple as typing in a name. But this is only the beginning of what's >> to come. The Church is aggressively working toward developing other >> products that will simplify genealogical research, making it faster >> and easier to access needed information and trace family histories." >> The North American Vital Records Index lists nearly five million names >> taken from church and civil records and from other collections in the >> United States and Canada. The items in this seven-CD set focus on >> marriage records (6 discs) and also list some births and christenings >> (1 disc). The North American records indexed date from 1620 to1888. >> The index will be updated periodically as more information becomes >> available, adding millions of new names with each future volume. >> The British Vital Records Index contains nearly five million names >> from parish registers, civil registrations and other record >> collections in England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland. The records on >> the index span more than three centuries, from 1538 to 1888. The five >> CDs in this set concentrate on birth and christening records (4 discs) >> and also list some marriages (1 disc). The amount of accessible data >> can vary greatly from parish to parish. This vital records index will >> be an ongoing project which will also be updated periodically. >> "Nearly half of American families can trace part of their lineage to >> the British Isles," Christofferson said. "Our repository of records is >> the most comprehensive source available to help these families trace >> their roots, not just to ancestors who arrived in America, but to >> their forebears in 16th century England." >> Genealogy is the third-most-popular hobby in the U.S. and the >> second-most-popular topic on the Internet. According to a Maritz >> Marketing Research study conducted for American Demographics Magazine, >> approximately 19 million people actively trace their lineage. >> Since 1978, thousands of Latter-day Saint volunteers and others have >> spent millions of hours carefully reading and examining microfilmed >> records. The volunteers "extract" from these original records the most >> necessary and useful information, such as names, dates, places, and >> family relationships. The resulting data is then indexed, and in the >> case of the vital record indexes, automated into valuable resource >> files that improve ease of access and save time for family history >> devotees. >> The Family History Department expects to begin releasing the 1880 U.S. >> Census and the 1881 British Census in early 1999. This collection will >> total more than 80 million names. Three other new software products >> were introduced in April of this year. They include: >> 1. Family History SourceGuide™ ­ an automated research guide, >> developed by the experts at the world-famous Family History Library. >> 2. The 1851 British Census ­ an index to census records of >> Devon, Norfolk, and Warwick co. >> 3. The Australian Vital Records Index (1788-1905) ­ an index >> to records from New South Wales, Tasmania, Victoria, and Western >> Australia. >> The Family History Department of The Church of Jesus Christ of >> Latter-day Saints is the world leader in genealogical work, with more >> than 3,200 family history centers worldwide and the world's largest >> collection of family history records, housed in Salt Lake City, Utah. >> Items from the Family History Resource File CD-ROM Series are >> available from: >> Church Distribution Center >> 1999 West 1700 South >> Salt Lake City, Utah 84104-4233 >> U.S.A. >> Telephone: 800-537-5950 [from the U.S. or Canada] >> 801-240-1126 [international] >> FAX orders: 801-240-3685 >> Product description: >> British Vital Records Index (1538-1888), (Item #50028) 5 CDs, >> Price: $15 >> This product is an index to parish registers, civil registration >> records and other records collections in parts of England, Wales, >> Scotland and Ireland. Nearly five million names. Four CDs contain >> birth and christening records; one CD lists marriages. >> North American Vital Records Index (1620-1888), (Item #50029) >> 7 CDs, Price: $19 >> This product is an index to church and civil records and some other >> records collections in parts of the United States and Canada. Nearly >> five million names. Six CDs contain marriage records; one CD lists >> births and christenings. >> Family History SourceGuide, (Item #50176), Price: $10 >> The first automated Windows® product of its kind for the Church, >> SourceGuide is an automated research guide. Product does not show >> information about individuals, but will help the researcher by listing >> the types of records and sources needed to find the requested >> information. CD is designed for those who know basic information about >> their ancestors, but now need to search original sources to complete >> their personal records. Also compiles information from more than 150 >> research guides developed at the Family History Library in Salt Lake >> City, Utah. >> 1851 British Census, (Item #50096) 1 CD, Price: $5 >> This product is an index to the census records of Devon, Norfolk, and >> Warwick counties only. About 1.5 million names were transcribed from >> original census returns. Includes such information as a person's name, >> relationship to head of household, sex, age, occupation, birthplace, >> and residence. >> Australian Vital Records Index (1788-1905), (Item #50095) 4 >> CDs, Price: $20 >> This product is an index to records from New South Wales (1788-1888), >> Tasmania (1803-1899), Victoria (1837-1888), and Western Australia >> (1841-1905). The index contains about 4.5 million records of births, >> christenings, marriages, and deaths. >> For more information, contact Dan Rascon 801-240-1977 or Paul Nauta >> 801-240-6498.

A great resource research site is: http://members.tripod.com/~GrannyGump/cdlist.html Have found this very useful since I don't have FTM. Hope this site will help other researchers. Carol

Carol, Tripod said Granny Gump can't be found. Any ideas. Wanda

go to http://www.planetall.com then click on register. That should work. Maureen

Any NYC experts out there? I have been searching for my great-grandparents, William Stewart and Lizzie Robertson in Brooklyn. Long, sad story - the father left the family to find work. The Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children removed my grandfather (William Robertson Stewart) and his younger brother (Hector Stewart) from the home. Court records show that William and Lizzie showed up in court, William agreed to pay a certain amount per week to support his children, but disappeared from the picture. Lizzie, unable to care for her 3 sons, allowed the 2 older boys to be placed in the Five Points House of Industry. The youngest, Charles, was too young and sickly and was sent to live with an aunt, a Mrs. Margaret Sweeney. No trace was found of the father, William H Stewart. Lizzie died sometime around Jan 1907. After that time, the 2 older boys were sent west on the orphan trains by the Children's Aid Society. As far as I know, my grandfather never had any contact with baby brother Charles. I vaguely remember him talking about his brother Hector. Although there was no contact from William H, the father, years later my grandfather received a letter from him. It was a heart-breaking letter that had me (a cool, cynical, know-it-all 20-year-old) crying my eyes out. Unfortunately, the letter is long lost. I am desperately searching for William and Lizzie's marriage record. My grandfather, the oldest, was born in Apr 1893. I have to assume that William and Lizzie married about a year before that. Any suggestions would be great - I feel a great deal of love for Lizzie, an unusual closeness. My grandfather cared dearly for his mother and named his only child after her, my mother, Lois Elizabeth. My older daughter, in turn, was named Elizabeth. My younger daughter was born with gorgeous honey gold hair that we feel certain is Lizzie's contribution and reminder. City directories have been searched, death records have been studied, I even had the chance to go through marriage record films in the SLC FHC a few years ago, with no success. Please, give me ideas. I live in Austin, TX, and a trip to NYC is not possible! I love belonging to this mailing list. Everyone is marvelous. I have been on other mailing lists where there is constant nit-picking and meanness (from which I have unsubscribed). Diane Wrightsman

THANK YOU! I appreciate the update and I will print a copy of it for my use! Shelley ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hi Bonnie When I read your message I felt like I was reading my own story. I am new to internet access and genealogy. I have dabbled in genealogy over the years, but have again gotten more into it. I happend upon a site which listed some of my surnames so I sent out email messages with hopes of hearing from someone. Sure enough the next day I received a message from someone who sent me 5 generations of information! I spent the next week inputting the info into my database and then spent many hours on line trying to make another "hit". Haven't had much success yet, but I'm not giving up. It was so exciting to get this info. But like you 2am is a bit much! HA!HA! Once the "bug" bites it's hard to shake it. Good luck with your search. By the way I'm researching the following surnames: BAIN,GRAY,KANE,SINCLAIR,ANDERSON,HIGGINS,SHEARER,DEUCHART (DUCHARD) all from Scotland. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Anyone out there working on any of these names?? Have a great day everyone! Cathy Vancour On Tue, 20 Oct 1998 02:37:13 EDT Jacboni@aol.com writes: >Hi Dianne > >I don't have time to make any postings I can't keep up with the >genealogy I >have recieved on my mother's line, just tonight I added six more >direct line >grandparents. >I just can't believe it, I was up to 2:00 am last night and back up at >6:00 am >and it is now 11:30 pm and I am a tired "Bone Rattler" but I just >can't quit. > >I'll let you know later how it is going and I am sure I will have alot >of >questions and need some help with some of my other lines when these >slow up, >and yet I got e-mail from a person in Norway that is going to the >Archives and >search my lines. >I have found over 10 new cousins since I started on the internet. > > > >Take Care and God Bless you and Gilbert >Bonnie Ferguson >jacboni@aol.com > > >==== GEN-ROOTERS Mailing List ==== >We believe in being honest,true,chaste,benevolent,virtuous,and in >doing good to all men; indeed we may say that we follow the admonition >of Paul >-We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many >things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything >virtuous,lovely,or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after >these. 13th Article of Faith > >listowner questions to AZDEE@aol.com > > > >

In a message dated 98-10-19 21:31:52 EDT, raquelsteen@inficad.com wrote: > I have a question . Does anyone have a way to look up the birth records > of Ellsworth Elden Steen... If you can give some idea of location and time period of the desired births, then we might be able to advise on how best to go about getting birth records or birth dates. Keep in mind that birth registration is, for the most part, a late 19th century and 20th century procedure. In a few states and foreign countries they exist from the mid-19th century and some New England towns kept birth registers as early as the 17th century. Some churchs kept infant christening records which often included the child's birthdate in the record and some of these survive from the 15th century. In the US, there is no nationwide standard for birth registration -- each state sets its own procedures and requirements. Some states started requiring birth registration earlier than others. Sometimes there are county, town or city records that pre-date the state records. Records of recent origin (past 70-100 years, depending on the state or country) are considered private by law and public access to the records is limited. Dawna

From: Peter Van Schaik <peter.van.schaik@T8000.com> At 12:47 PM 10/19/98 -0700, you wrote: >Peter: What was the date of this memo? We have not yet received it in our >Family History Center! Would sure like more info. Marilyn in Vancouver, >Washington USA 30 September 1998 Galaxie 6, channel 1, digitized. >Peter Van Schaik wrote: >> Copied from a letter send to all stakes, wards and FHC's : >> Family History Training Satellite Broadcast, November 8, 1998 >> The church will broadcast a family history training program on Sunday, >> November 8, 1998 at 6:00 P.M. Mountain standard time (MST). >> >> The following should attend: stake and ward priesthood leaders with >> assignments in temple and family history work, including high council >> advisers and high priest group leaders; Family History Center directors and >> staff; family record extraction directors and staff; stake and ward family >> history consultants; and missionaries with family history assignments. > This came from one of my other lists... Thought there could be some interest here. It has the channel of the Satellite for any who have their own dish Jim in Phoenix

In a message dated 10/19/98 5:57:48 PM US Mountain Standard Time, merrill.shelley@juno.com writes: << Dear Rootsweb, I have been reading with interest about the CD lists of various research data bases. Either I skimmed through too quickly and missed the info or it dribbled out of my ear while I slept, but, where do the average Jane Does' get ahold of these little gems? Are they international in scope? Specifically, do they contain information from Europe and Russia? Are they available on-line? Do you have to buy them? Do the Family History Centers have these? If this litany of queries hasn't sent you to an asylum, I would appreciate any and all assistance rendered in this matter. Thanks to all of you and Happy Autumn! Shelley >> These little gem come from the SLC Church Distribution Center - 1 800-537-5971 in the US and Can. They are new and I know of two titles - 1851 British Census (50096) $.5.00 SourceGuide (50176) $10.00 I don't work in the British Isles, But the source guide is neat. It has printable research guides for all states and countries. It will tell you where to write for information in every country in Europe, with sample letters, there is a list of English words to help you translate information. I use mine about once a week for someone in the ward. They are not on the net, they have to be purchased, they are not at most FHC because they require a pentium speed processor, 8 megs of memory, 30 megs of disk space and windows 95 or NT. Enough said, I love the SourceGuide and find it was one of the best $10 bills I have spend in trying to find my Family History and fill my church calling... Family History consultant. Jim in Phoenix

Hi Dianne I don't have time to make any postings I can't keep up with the genealogy I have recieved on my mother's line, just tonight I added six more direct line grandparents. I just can't believe it, I was up to 2:00 am last night and back up at 6:00 am and it is now 11:30 pm and I am a tired "Bone Rattler" but I just can't quit. I'll let you know later how it is going and I am sure I will have alot of questions and need some help with some of my other lines when these slow up, and yet I got e-mail from a person in Norway that is going to the Archives and search my lines. I have found over 10 new cousins since I started on the internet. Take Care and God Bless you and Gilbert Bonnie Ferguson jacboni@aol.com

DATABASES OF THE DAY (Free for 10 Days!) <<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>> ======================================================= Kansas Marriage Index, 1854-1873 Following the Civil War, Kansas experienced a population boom as immigrants and settlers moved into the area. This database is a collection of marriage records for the state before and during these growth years. It contains the records for nearly 22,000 marriages. The names were extracted from LDS microfilms and local newspapers. Each entry shows the names of spouses, date of marriage, county in which the record is kept, and reference information about the source. Bibliography: Carpenter, Linda. "Kansas Marriage Index, 1854-1873." Orem, UT: Ancestry, Inc., 1998. To search this database, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/search/3444.htm -----Original Message----- From: Lynda Minarzick <minarzick@securenet.net> To: GEN-ROOTERS-L@rootsweb.com <GEN-ROOTERS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, October 19, 1998 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [GEN-ROOTERS-L] microfilms > >In our LDS library in Montreal, Canada, we tell everyone that the film >can't be bought. All you have to do is call the Mormon church itself, not >the libraries. They will tell you fast enought if you can directly >purchase. I would not go through a library. > >Lynda >: >>Does anyone out there know if the microfilms in the SL FHL can be bought for >>an individuals own use? I know all about privacy laws etc., but the ones I >>am interested in are old parish records from Czechoslovakia. >> >>??? Joan >> >> >>==== GEN-ROOTERS Mailing List ==== >>Visit my Homepage for Gen-Rooters-L at >>http://members.aol.com/AZDEE/index.html >>or Genealogy One- Research Logging Techniques >>http://members.aol.com/CD642US/ptone.html >> >>listowner questions to AZDEE@aol.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >==== GEN-ROOTERS Mailing List ==== >Visit my Homepage for Gen-Rooters-L at >http://members.aol.com/AZDEE/index.html >or Genealogy One- Research Logging Techniques >http://members.aol.com/CD642US/ptone.html > >listowner questions to AZDEE@aol.com > > > > > >

Hya Dianne; Okay I will start some thing... You remember when doing research, you searched for the surnames, then you find , a given name that was a surname, so you searched to find out how it happened ? Well we just hit that in our research. Dianne remember Broadwater Then the different given names on it. You remeber Carrie Scarburogh (forgot the spelling) any way we found A Scarburogh Broadwater, as same for the other given names to surnames, inresting subject, any one else have this happen? Dan Hate to have to look up spellings (shudder)) ---------- > From: AZDEE@aol.com > To: GEN-ROOTERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [GEN-ROOTERS-L] Posting > Date: Monday, October 19, 1998 5:11 PM > > Hi Everyone, > We all need to start posting something!! Don't you have any questions or > comments about genealogy you want to make?? > Maybe a Roll Call?? > Someone make a suggestion!! > Dianne > > > ==== GEN-ROOTERS Mailing List ==== > If you wish to change to the digest list send an email to GEN-ROOTERS-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body of the message put the one word SUBCRIBE > To unsubscribe form the list (L or D) send an email to GEN-ROOTERS-(L or D according to which one you are receiving-it is on the top of the emails you receive)request@rootsweb.com put the one word message in the body of the letter-- UNSUBSCRIBE > > listowner questions to AZDEE@aol.com

Thanks for your responses. Our FHC here is small and they will not let you have a film permanently. I have some difficult films to view and with the center only having 4 readers and many users it is difficult to get into the films. I barely get started and get bumped off. I have a feich reader at home and can improvise. But enough of my problems. I appreciate your help. I will contact the church and try to find out. I just came back from SL where I spent 2 weeks researching and never thought to ask while I was there. Joan

Hi, I went to the new posting and couldn't find where to click on for Ohio Genealogy. Niki

Joan: I was told that you can rent them for the following: $3.50 for 5 weeks $7.00 for l0 weeks and $ l0 .50 you can keep it at your location permanently and others get to use it since it is there. Rockie -----Original Message----- From: Joan Hendershot <jhend@netacc.net> To: GEN-ROOTERS-L@rootsweb.com <GEN-ROOTERS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, October 19, 1998 6:16 PM Subject: [GEN-ROOTERS-L] microfilms >Does anyone out there know if the microfilms in the SL FHL can be bought for >an individuals own use? I know all about privacy laws etc., but the ones I >am interested in are old parish records from Czechoslovakia. > >??? Joan > > >==== GEN-ROOTERS Mailing List ==== >Visit my Homepage for Gen-Rooters-L at >http://members.aol.com/AZDEE/index.html >or Genealogy One- Research Logging Techniques >http://members.aol.com/CD642US/ptone.html > >listowner questions to AZDEE@aol.com > > > > > >

In Montreal you can rent for 45 days for $5.50, renew it for another 60 days, I believe for an additional $5.50 and if you renew again for $5.50 the director MIGHT elect to keep the film. It all depends on how big the library is and how much drawer space they have. Montreal is small with little drawer space. Lynda in Montreal t 06:32 PM 19/10/98 -0700, you wrote: >Joan: >I was told that you can rent them for the following: >$3.50 for 5 weeks > $7.00 for l0 weeks >and $ l0 .50 you can keep it at your location permanently and others get to >use it since it is there. >Rockie >-----Original Message----- >From: Joan Hendershot <jhend@netacc.net> >To: GEN-ROOTERS-L@rootsweb.com <GEN-ROOTERS-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Monday, October 19, 1998 6:16 PM >Subject: [GEN-ROOTERS-L] microfilms > > >>Does anyone out there know if the microfilms in the SL FHL can be bought >for >>an individuals own use? I know all about privacy laws etc., but the ones I >>am interested in are old parish records from Czechoslovakia. >> >>??? Joan >> >> >>==== GEN-ROOTERS Mailing List ==== >>Visit my Homepage for Gen-Rooters-L at >>http://members.aol.com/AZDEE/index.html >>or Genealogy One- Research Logging Techniques >>http://members.aol.com/CD642US/ptone.html >> >>listowner questions to AZDEE@aol.com >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >==== GEN-ROOTERS Mailing List ==== >Visit my Homepage for Gen-Rooters-L at >http://members.aol.com/AZDEE/index.html >or Genealogy One- Research Logging Techniques >http://members.aol.com/CD642US/ptone.html > >listowner questions to AZDEE@aol.com > > > > > > >