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    1. Fwd: [SPIRIT] How do I love you?
    2. --------------------- Forwarded message: From: [email protected] (Heidi Weatherston) Sender: [email protected] Reply-to: [email protected] (Heidi Weatherston) To: [email protected] Date: 97-08-27 09:58:00 EDT How Do I Love You? by P.K. Halliman How do I love you? Let me count the ways. I love you on your very best... and very worst of days. I love to see you laughing and dancing in the rain. And even when you lose your shoes, I love you just the same. I love to hear you singing. I love to see you smile. I love the way you take each day in your own unhurried style. I'm happy when you're happy, and I'm sorry when you're sad. And even though it may not show, I love you when you're bad. How do I love you? Well, now, let me see... I love the way you act so brave when you fall and hurt your knee. I love to watch you sleeping, tucked away in dreams. I love to hear you whisper all your giant plans and schemes. I love the way you wear your pants, with the front part in the back and the way you walk around sometimes with your head inside a sack. I love to see you deep in thought. I love to watch you play. And though I'm sure you'll never know, I love you more each day. How do I love you? It's impossible to say. For if I had a million days and time enough for all the praise, I couldn't tell you all the ways... I love you. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- SPIRIT Mailing List for LDS-oriented spiritual thoughts, items and stories For assistance, contact [email protected] http://seminary.org/spirit/

    08/27/1997 10:09:27
    1. Please help me
    2. I have asked about this before, and haven't gotten any replies, i hope this time i will ( i seem to be such a needy person lately LOL) I am doing a mini class in RS tomorrow night about gift wrapping idea's... i have a few, but wanted to do something on rubber stamping... if anyone can help me write up a small presentation about it... i would GREATLY appreciate it.. please e-mail me with replies.. thank you so much, yet again love faith

    08/27/1997 08:04:04
    1. Re: genealogy.
    2. Thank You! I've been looking for sources to do some geneology work at home!!!! Sony

    08/27/1997 07:08:40
    1. Re: Potty training
    2. Thank you all for your help on my crying baby. Here's another baby question. My three year old is not yet "potty trained". I Have 12 days to get him ready for "Mommy's Day Out". Can this be done? He is good about using the toilet if he is naked. Once I put underwear on him, he thinks he's wearing diapers and you guessed it - wet pants or worse. Needless to say, I can't send him to school naked. Any suggestions?

    08/27/1997 04:47:01
    1. Fwd: [SPIRIT] How do I love you?
    2. --------------------- Forwarded message: From: [email protected] (Heidi Weatherston) Sender: [email protected] Reply-to: [email protected] (Heidi Weatherston) To: [email protected] Date: 97-08-27 11:03:11 EDT How Do I Love You? by P.K. Halliman How do I love you? Let me count the ways. I love you on your very best... and very worst of days. I love to see you laughing and dancing in the rain. And even when you lose your shoes, I love you just the same. I love to hear you singing. I love to see you smile. I love the way you take each day in your own unhurried style. I'm happy when you're happy, and I'm sorry when you're sad. And even though it may not show, I love you when you're bad. How do I love you? Well, now, let me see... I love the way you act so brave when you fall and hurt your knee. I love to watch you sleeping, tucked away in dreams. I love to hear you whisper all your giant plans and schemes. I love the way you wear your pants, with the front part in the back and the way you walk around sometimes with your head inside a sack. I love to see you deep in thought. I love to watch you play. And though I'm sure you'll never know, I love you more each day. How do I love you? It's impossible to say. For if I had a million days and time enough for all the praise, I couldn't tell you all the ways... I love you. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- SPIRIT Mailing List for LDS-oriented spiritual thoughts, items and stories For assistance, contact [email protected] http://seminary.org/spirit/

    08/27/1997 01:37:19
    1. fwd: Angels
    2. --------------------- Forwarded message: From: [email protected] (Mary B Pirill) To: [email protected] CC: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] Date: 97-08-27 12:14:51 EDT --------- Begin forwarded message ---------- From: [email protected] To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected],[email protected], [email protected], [email protected],[email protected], [email protected], [email protected] Subject: Fwd: Subject - ANGELS (from my sewing list :~))) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 09:31:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <[email protected]> --------------------- Forwarded message: From: [email protected] (E. Lucille Makri) To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] Date: 97-08-26 23:49:23 EDT Subject: Angels WHAT DO ANGELS LOOK LIKE? Like the little old lady who returned ~ your wallet yesterday. Like the taxi driver who told you that your eyes ~ light up the world, when you smile. Like the small child who showed you ~ the wonder in simple things. Like the poor man who offered to ~ share his lunch with you. Like the rich man who showed you that it ~ really is all possible, if only you believe. Like the stranger who just happened to come along, ~ when you had lost your way. Like the friend who touched your heart, ~ when you didn't think you had one to touch. Angels come in all sizes and shapes, ~ all ages and skin types. Some with freckles, some with dimples, ~ some with wrinkles, some without. They come disguised as friends, enemies, ~ teachers, students, lovers and fools. They don't take life too seriously, ~ they travel light. They leave no forwarding address, ~ they ask nothing in return. They wear sneakers with gossamer wings, ~ they get a deal on dry cleaning. They are hard to find when your eyes are closed, But ~ they are everywhere you look, when you choose to see. "and the footprints of an angel are Love...and where there is Love, miraculous things can happen. I know...I've seen it" Maggie Nelson:"Angels In The Outfield" Hope you enjoyed as much as I did. - Lucille --------- End forwarded message ----------

    08/27/1997 11:35:15
    1. AUGUST 27, 1997
    2. When we ignore the truth, we ignore God, because God is truth. And what isn't true, He doesn't want any part of. He can't. It's just not who He is. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

    08/27/1997 10:54:02
    1. Re: My Profile
    2. Hi Sharlene - I enjoyed reading your profile. I noticed that you once lived in the Park Stake - I grew up in the Park Stake! Small world, huh? My mother, LaWain Odell, was the Stake Primary President for 15 years - maybe you recognize the name? She's been gone for 7 years now and I really miss her. By the way, I will be 44 next month - we are probably two of the older ones iin the group. I joined this group when we were first organized - back in the days when there was only 13 of us! LOL I'll let you go - welcome to the group! Sharon :) P.S. I still live in Salt Lake and try to go to the Jordan River Temple often.

    08/27/1997 10:34:02
    1. Re: At the end of my rope
    2. maybe she is just teething..... try some numzit on her gums or a frozen washcloth.. then put her in a playpen with her favorite toys... (not to many toys)

    08/27/1997 08:15:35
    1. Dare to Dream
    2. Sisters, <A HREF="http://www.bluemountain.com/cards/box2374/myd4746mz f7586.html">"If one advances in the direction of his drea...</A> Love, Mylinda

    08/27/1997 07:45:07
    1. My Profile
    2. My name is Sharlene Olander, I'm 54 years old --TODAY 8/28. Here is my home page ShLoOl's Home Page I was born at a very early age. LOL I spent the first 9 years in the Primary Children�s Hospital (in for two-ten months, then out for a month or so, and then back in, etc.) I had severe kypho/scoliosis. After I graduated from high school I attended business college and became a secretary. Later I went to the University, but have not graduated....got married instead, when I was 30. I have been very active in the church--teaching is my favorite. I�ve been music/sports /drama/speech/camp directors on ward and stake levels. However, I have never served in a presidency. I�ve served a stake mission in Park Stake, SLC; and a full-time mission in the West Central States (1964-65) ; because I kept getting pneumonia in Montana, I was reassigned to Northern California (1965-66). After my mission I moved to No. Cal where I lived for five years and worked at the University of Cal at Berkeley. I was there in the 60�s.....people�s park.... hippies.... etc. What an experience. I worked in the Oakland Temple and I taught early morning seminary for four years. I moved back to SLC in �72. Worked in the SLC Temple and attended the U of U. Met and married a wonderful, spiritual non-LDS man. As the years progressed, so did his alcoholism. Finally he had to choose between his family or the alcohol and he chose his family. Had my one child--Matthew (Gift from God)--when I was 32. We moved to Murray, UT. I worked in the Jordan River Temple. Started doing serious genealogy. In 1989 my DH joined the church and quit drinking completely, but never has been able to give up cigarettes--because of this he doesn't hold the priesthood; however, he attends church regularly, reads the scriptures daily, does home teaching monthly, serves as High Priest Group secretary and is a wonderful husband. In the past I have also been very active in humanitarian and civic organizations. I was Treasurer for a county political party for a term where I learned the importance of electing officials that are representative of your value system. And then monitoring them to make sure they are voting as you would have them vote. I learned the importance of having a group who would (at a moment�s notice) phone or fax their government representative when an issue was at stake that compromised the Gospel values. In 1989 I became heavily involved in a humanitarian project involving pre-Hispanic Indians in southern Mexico. Our group was sponsored by CHOICE Foundation. We made several trips, building school, teaching them agriculture, a cistern and rain catcher, and other projects that enriched their lives. For a week we would live with them at 10,000 ft. on the side of an extinct volcano--no water--no electricity. I was the food coordinator and fed three meals a day to 75 expedition staff and about 25 Indians who were working on the project. The past few years I have been an officer is several "values" organizations. A friend of mine, Susan Roylance and I formed the Coalition for Religious Liberties to protect our rights in public areas. Some of the Organizations I've served on the board or as an officer for are: Republican Coalition for Life (anti abortion), United Families of Utah, United Families International (attends UN conferences throughout the world to influence delegates to support family values). Utah Association of Women and WOW Women Of the World (MOM upside-down....a family values group). I have had to step down and take a back seat in these organizations because I've been ill. I�ve had health problems all my life, but in 1994, I was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. I survived--am surviving...... You may have read by testimony, "Thy Will Be Done". We live in South Jordan now with our son, who is currently home on sick leave from his mission. He plans to return to a mission in October. He is currently waiting for his new call, as he was released from the other one. He was serving in West Virginia but will probably go to a different mission this time. The other members of our family include our fur people: Rose (Irish Setter), Phoebe (poodle), Fred (BIG Siamese cat) and Elizabeth (dainty petite tabby). People have asked me to write about some of my experiences. I�ll share them with you from time to time and give more detail of certain things. I spend my time resting, doing family history research, surfing the net...chat...etc. and try to do a little housework every day. I don't like dealing with food..my husband has done the cooking for many years...I love gardening...home decorating... music... sewing... flower arranging, and playing, Scrabble, Wordtris and Backgammon with my computer. I enjoy getting to know you. Thanks for being there. I love hearing about you and your lives. The struggles we all face and the ways we overcome them are a help to each other. I look forward to my mail each day.

    08/26/1997 11:09:16
    1. Re: genealogy.
    2. I HAVE A LOT OF LINKS--HAVE YOU GOT A GOOD ORGANIZATION SYSTEM WORKED OUT FOR KEEPING TRACK OF WHAT YOU FIND AND WHAT LINKS WERE USELESS TO YOU? THAT IS THE FIRST THING TO DO. ALWAYS KEEP A RESEARCH LOG FOR ALL CORRESPONDENCE- HELPFUL OR NOT SO YOU KNOW WHERE YOU GET ANY OF THE INFORMATION YOU DO FIND. IN THE GENEALOGY FORUM- DEAR MYRT HAS A GETTING ORGANIZED PROGRAM THAT I USE AND FIND IT TO WORK VERY WELL. IF YOU START OUT WITH A GOOD SYSTEM, IT WILL SAVE YOU A LOT OF TIME TO ORGANIZE LATER. <A HREF="aol://4344:167.myrtfina.141 2348.529459588">Finally Get Organized!</A> This is Dear Myrts ideas --even if you have to change it in some ways to fit your needs it will get you started. Have you wrote down all the information for your immediate family? yourself, spouse, children, parents of each spouse, then work your way back. Talk to your realtives and get the stories handed down as well as dates etc. It really adds a lot to it if you get to "know" them. I went to the small town I was born in and sat down at the microfilm printer and clicked to copy any page that had my surnames on it. I found my GGrandmothers obituary that way by accident. If you know where your family is from use the US GenWeb <A HREF=" http://www.usgenweb.com/">USGenWeb Project</A> they have each state broken down by county and some counties have a lot of info on them- some dont. I have found census records, marriage records, muster rolls from the various wars. Many helpful things in my search. If a location is not helpful write it down so you don't repeat useless actions. There are many lists of places of lists of genealogy. My favorite is <A HREF="http://home.earthlink.net/~middlet on/topten.html">Best Genealogy Links on the WWW!</A> For online social security death index go to <A HREF="http://www.ancestry.com /">Genealogy: Ancestry Home Town</A> , Its a free service and easier than going to the FHC daily. For a searchable surname list I recommenc <A HREF="ht tp://www.rootsweb.com/roots-l/roots-l.html">ROOTS-L Home Page</A> and sometimes find good info at <A HREF="http://www2.cy-net.net/~bga/stlinks.html ">Brazos Genealogical Association, Brazos Co Te...</A> Another good place is <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/~alacy/spring_c.htm">Surname Springboard In dex</A> <A HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com/">Family Tree Maker's Genealo gy Site: Home Page</A> <A HREF="http://www.everton.com/c1.htm">Everton's On- Line Search</A> <A HREF="http://www.gendex.com/">Welcome to GENDEX</A> there are many many services out there and most of them are free. Start your quest and if you meed any more help or suggestions feel free to write. <A HREF="http ://pages.prodigy.com/WMercer/index.htm">"Genealogy-Our Labor of Love" Welcome and Ind...</A> This doesn't even start to list them all, but will get you started. Good Luck and Happy Hunting C

    08/26/1997 05:26:56
    1. Good Locations
    2. I have found the US GenWeb information to be fantastic if you know where your relative is from <A HREF="http://www.usgenweb.com/">USGenWeb Project</A> Cyndi's List for genealogy is good too <A HREF="http://www.oz.net/~cyndihow/sites.htm">Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sit es on the Internet</A> My favorite for general genealogy searching is the best genealogy sites <A HREF="http://home.earthlink.net/~middleton/topten.html ">Best Genealogy Links on the WWW!</A> Some of my other favorite places to search are: <A HREF="http://www.geneanet.org/cgi-bin/sourcename.pl?re=bailey" >GeneaNet: Sourcename</A> <A HREF="http://www.rand.org/personal/Genea/">RAND Genealogy Club</A> For online Social Security Death Index go to <A HREF="http ://www.ancestry.com/">Genealogy: Ancestry Home Town</A> <A HREF="http://www.e verton.com/c1.htm">Everton's On-Line Search</A> This is a searchable index. <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/roots-l/roots-l.html">ROOTS-L Home Page</A> What are some of your favorite research spots?? C.

    08/26/1997 03:24:07
    1. Re: At the end of my rope
    2. Maybe ya'll can help. I have three babies under three years of age (3, 1 1/2, and 7 months). The problem is my 7 month old. She is driving me crazy. She cries all day. She wants to be held and I can't do this with three little ones. I didn't notice this problem with the other ones, probably because I had more time! I could meet every little whim then. I no longer have the time or patience. She is not yet crawling so maybe she is just frustrated. I have tried swings, gram crackers, toys, etc. They don't work for very long. Finally, I put her in her crib because I can't take it anymore. By the end of the day I am exausted. Any suggestions?

    08/26/1997 02:47:45
    1. Fwd: FHE Game: TAKING CARE OF OUR BODIES (was "Abuse")
    2. Sisters this was posted on another list I am on. I thought it was really good. It is long to read through sorry. It is a FHE game on saftey rules for kids. It sounds like it would be a great reminder to mine. Love Cora --------------------- Forwarded message: From: [email protected] (Liz Osborn) Sender: [email protected] Reply-to: [email protected] To: [email protected] CC: [email protected] (Liz Osborn) Date: 97-08-26 13:13:42 EDT Ok, so having had my say, here is something my husband and I did with my boys for FHE when my middle one was earning his Bobcat, and the older one was earning his Fitness Activity Badge for Webelos (when they both had to work through the Child Protection booklet again). This is the kind of pro-active activity that we need to share when those "abuse" lessons come up in RS, etc. It really helped us discuss what was appropriate behavior. On a large sheet of Poster Paper, I drew out a game board with a path leading from start to finish, about 36 spaces. I labeled the Finish Space "HOME SAFE." About every 4th or 5th space, I drew a red "stop" sign, and under the space wrote either "Tell Mom and Dad" or "Yell and Scream and Run Away." I printed out some questions on separate identical pieces of paper (see below). Borrowing placemarkers and a die from another game, players begin at start. First, they draw a question card. If they can answer the question acceptably (and in many cases, there is no one 'right' answer, but as a family you need to establish what would be 'appropriate' and acceptable in your situation), they roll the dice and move forward that number of spaces. If they land on a "stop" space exactly, they get an extra turn, and can draw a second question and roll again. Play moves to the next player. Play until everyone is "HOME SAFE" When doing this activity as family home evening, you can begin by reviewing the scripture stories "Joseph and Potiphar's wife" (about inappropriate touching... RUN AWAY) and "Daniel and the King's Food" (the blessings of only putting appropriate things in our bodies). Both stories are found on the backs of pictures in the Gospel Art Kit. Help children remember that Heavenly Father gave us our very special bodies, and we can do many things to use our bodies wisely and help keep them safe. Here are the questions I used, they were mostly from the wolf and webelos books, with some ideas from "A Parent's Guide" (LDS) thrown in; remember, I was dealing only with boys, so you might want to include some questions more specifically for girls. (And some were written especially for my boys, situations they had actually been in... like hiding in the clothes rack... your kids never do that, do they?) **************************************** What is your home phone number? You and mom went to the mall. Mom was looking at some pants for Dad, and you decided to hide under the rack of clothes. When you came out, you couldn't see her anywhere. What should you do? You and Dad went to the hardware store. Dad was buying some parts, and you went to get a drink. When you came back, he wasn't in the same place. Should you go to the car and wait for him? You are home alone, and the telephone rings. You answer the phone, and someone asks, "Are your Parents home?" What should you say or do? A grown up invites you into his house and suggests that you let him take your picture when you're not wearing clothes. He says he will give you some money. What should you do? What are a boy's private parts? The Cub Scout law says: "A Cub Scout follows Akela." But do you have to do something that you know is wrong just because a grown-up tells you to? You are visiting at a friend's house, when your friend goes into his big brother's room and brings out some magazines, and says, "Let's look at these." But the pictures in the magazines are of people that are not wearing any clothes. What should you do? A grown up comes to you and says your parents are sick and you have to go with him or her. But this person is not somebody that you have been told it's okay to go with. What should you do? You are at a friend's house playing, and you're very thirsty. Your friend's mom is outside working in the yard. You and your friend look in the refrigerator for something to drink. Your friend finds a can of beer, and says, "Let's share this." What should you do? Why should we take care of our bodies? Name 4 things we do to take care of our bodies. You go into a public restroom, and someone tries to touch you in your private parts. What would you do? You are walking to school in the rain and a car stops and the driver asks if you want a ride. What would you do? You are playing basketball out front, when a car stops and asks you how to get to the McDonald's. Then the person inside the car invites you to get in, if you'll show him how to get there, then he'll buy you a hamburger. What would you do? Where are a girl's private parts? What if you are walking down the street and an elderly neighbor tells you that you'll get a quarter if you help him carry groceries. The person asks you to come into his or her house. What would you do? You and a buddy are working on your pinewood derby cars outside, getting them painted. You're using spray paint. The paint smells bad and makes your head a little dizzy if you get too close. Your friend thinks the paint smell is fun to smell, and says, "Let's spray that in the paint box again just to smell it." What do you do? An older child you know invites you to play a game, and to pretend that he or she is the doctor, and you are the patient. Then this child tells you to take off all of your clothes so that the "doctor" can examine the "patient." What would you do? Why should we keep our private parts private? Are our private parts bad? What is your address? What if a grown-up does touches you in a way that made you feel uncomfortable, and then told you not to tell, or else you would be in trouble. What should you do? How can the Holy Ghost help you keep safe? A person you don't know is walking around outside saying "Here, kitty, kitty." The person asks if you will help find his cat. What should you do? You are playing on the school grounds when some big kids come up and say you're sissy. They have something in their hands, and they want you to eat it. What should you do? From ldsprimary: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsprimary. Send commands in the body of a message to [email protected] In the format: (un)subscribe ldsprimary or for digest: (un)subscribe ldsprimary-digest

    08/26/1997 02:04:26
    1. Genealogy
    2. I would like to hear more about Genealogy on this list- After all, it is supposed to be genealogy based according to listing. I have been doing research online for the last 8 months or so and have a lot of good contacts for those who need them. AOL has a Genealogy Forum with lessons on how to research at FHC as well as other places and a posting board for surnames. Are there any beginners out there that want to know where to begin looking on the net? Or others that have done a lot of research on the net compare notes so we can all do our families work at the temple. C.

    08/26/1997 11:43:56
    1. AUGUST 26, 1997
    2. TEN THINGS THAT SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE DO 1. They believe in themselves (and in their products and/or accomplishments.) 2. They demonstrate faith in a higher power. 3. They move in a definite direction, toward specific goals. 4. They manage their personal resources effectively. 5. They surround themselves with strong supporters, not just "yes people." 6. They unselfishly serve others. 7. They see the "BIG picture." 8. They assume control of their own lives. 9. They continue to grow. 10. They really want to achieve their dreams.

    08/26/1997 10:03:02
    1. for you
    2. i was looking for something someone wanted but couldn't find it but did find this it is for LDS mothers and since we are all mostly mothers here it is <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/6358/mothers.htm">Especial ly for LDS Mothers</A> love ya all pam have a great day!!!

    08/26/1997 09:08:48
    1. ????
    2. I haven't gotten any mail from momz in zion for a few days & wondered....am I still on the list or have I gotten knocked off somehow??? Or are we all just being this quiet?? Oh come on...can't be that...how many of us women are there in this group??? When are we EVER this quiet?? lol.... Just wondering if there is something I was supposed to do when the change in gen-rooters happened that I just missed....I was out of town & took over a week to get through my mail & even had my mailbox full for several of those days. So I may have missed something that got me kicked off.... Cyber sisters...where are you???? Love, Marcy

    08/26/1997 07:41:22
    1. Fwd: [SPIRIT] puppies for sale
    2. --------------------- Forwarded message: From: [email protected] (Susan Malmrose) Sender: [email protected] Reply-to: [email protected] (Susan Malmrose) To: [email protected] (Spirit) Date: 97-08-26 00:56:30 EDT Puppies For Sale A store owner was tacking a sign above his door that read "Puppies For Sale." Signs like that have a way of attracting small children, and sure enough, a little boy appeared under the store owner's sign. "How much are you going to sell the puppies for?" he asked. The store owner replied, "Anywhere from $30 to $50." The little boy reached in his pocket and pulled out some change. "I have $2.37," he said. "Can I please look at them?" The store owner smiled and whistled and out of the kennel came Lady, who ran down the aisle of his store followed by five teeny, tiny balls of fur. One puppy was lagging considerably behind. Immediately the little boy singled out the lagging, limping puppy and said, "What's wrong with that little dog?" The store owner explained that the veterinarian had examined the little puppy and had discovered it didn't have a hip socket. It would always limp. It would always be lame. The little boy became excited. "That is the puppy that I want to buy." The store owner said, "No, you don't want to buy that little dog. If you really want him, I'll just give him to you." The little boy got quite upset. He looked straight into the store owner' s eyes, pointing his finger, and said, "I don't want you to give him to me. That little dog is worth every bit as much as all the other dogs and I'll pay full price. In fact, I'll give you $2.37 now, and 50 cents a month until I have him paid for." The store owner countered, "You really don't want to buy this little dog. He is never going to be able to run and jump and play with you like the other puppies." To his surprise, the little boy reached down and rolled up his pant leg to reveal a badly twisted, crippled left leg supported by a big metal brace. He looked up at the store owner and softly replied, "Well, I don't run so well myself, and the little puppy will need someone who understands!" We ALL need someone who Understands!! - Author Unknown ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- SPIRIT Mailing List for LDS-oriented spiritual thoughts, items and stories For assistance, contact [email protected] http://seminary.org/spirit/

    08/26/1997 07:37:50