Hi all, I have been told by relatives in The Netherlands that there are two provinces, Noord (North) Holland, and Zuid (South) Holland. Therefore, to avoid confusion you should properly call the country The Netherlands and not Holland. And then they go right ahead and say they live in Holland! Sharon in Surprise, AZ Researching: KILLEWINGER, GOOSSEN, DE JONGE, OTTEVANGER and many others in Zeeland, Noord Brabant, Zuid Holland and Gelderland.