Betty wrote: > Hello, > > I haven't written about the KIDDER families in a while ! But, I > continue to try to help George KIDDER in FL in his attempts to update > the 1941 "KIDDER book." > > One family with a lot of missing information is the James KIDDER > family which was one of the first families to leave the MA Bay > Colony. He and his wife moved to Mansfield, CT, ~1703 - about when > that town was being founded. They had many children born there, but, > if you read his paragraph in "the KIDDER book," it seems that many > members of his family, including himself, might have been victims of > the "Smallpox epidemic" in the 1720's ! > > One curious thing is that the "KIDDER book" says that the eldest son, > James KIDDER, "was appointed executor of his father's estate" in 1729, > and "was present at the settlement of his grandfather's estate in > Cambridge, MA," in 1734. In 1740, he "deeded" his land to his > mother and an "in-law" in Mansfield, CT and moved to VT, and > subsequently to Delhi, NY. What is curious is that the KIDDER book > has him marrying a Hannah CURTIS (no place, no year), but him not > having a son, James KIDDER, until ~1780 -- when James was in his 70's !!! > > This past week, someone has posted a query about James' brother, > Ephraim KIDDER, who married Freedom BARNARD, in Coventry, CT. They > had 8 children born there, and then moved to Nine Partners, NY, ~1750, > where they had 3 more sons ! > > The "KIDDER book" only has information on 3 of their sons, Oliver, > Abel, and Ephraim, Jr., and one of their daughters (out of 11 > children). But the person looking for information is looking for > the next-to-youngest son, John KIDDER, b~1755. > > (One of the sons moved to the "Berkshires" in MA, but we don't know > which one !) > > I was wondering if anyone had any information on these KIDDER families ! > > And, I was wondering if anyone has any KIDDER information which they > would like included in the "updated version" of the 1941 book - which > George Kidder in FL hopes to publish next year ! > > Thank you for your time ! > > Betty (near Lowell, MA) > > P.S. I believe Nine Partners was one of those "border towns" which > might have been in VT at some point. > I have one that is no doubt from this group but I have never been able to discover her parentage. Mary KIDDER 1745-1822, b. poss. CT - d. Columbia Co., NY and is buried in the East Chatham Cemetery with her husband Capt. Nathan HERRICK 1743-1826. I would be very happy to conspire with others on this. Dick Hillenbrand Upstate New York Genealogy (UNYG) website: http://www.ny-genes.com

----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard "Dick" Hillenbrand" <nygenes@gmail.com> To: <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 10:43 AM Subject: Re: KIDDER Family to Nine Partners ~1750 > Betty wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I haven't written about the KIDDER families in a while ! But, I >> continue to try to help George KIDDER in FL in his attempts to update the >> 1941 "KIDDER book." >> >> One family with a lot of missing information is the James KIDDER >> > I have one that is no doubt from this group but I have never been able to > discover her parentage. > > Mary KIDDER 1745-1822, b. poss. CT - d. Columbia Co., NY and is buried in > the East Chatham Cemetery with her husband Capt. Nathan HERRICK 1743-1826. > > I would be very happy to conspire with others on this. > > Dick Hillenbrand > Upstate New York Genealogy (UNYG) > website: http://www.ny-genes.com > > ______________________________ Hi Dick, I only have the KIDDER book on CD, and it is OK for searching for male KIDDER's (sort of), but it is fairly difficult to find female KIDDER's. So, I first looked in one of the Indexes to see if the HERRICK name is mentioned. And, I didn't find your Capt. Nathan HERRICK, but I did find .. Capt. Benjamin HERRICK "of Reading and Fitchburg" (MA). Benjamin had married Elizabeth KIDDER, b1758 to Rev. Jonathan KIDDER, long-time school-teacher in Billerica, MA. And, Elizabeth had a sister, Mary KIDDER, b1756, who married Joseph BUTLER in 1778, who was said to have died in the Rev. War. I then went back to Mary KIDDER's b1745 "anywhere" and didn't find one which matched up to your information. So, I would suggest e-mailing George KIDDER in FL and asking if he has her in his files ! It would be interesting to find out if Nathan HERRICK and Benjamin HERRICK were brothers or cousins -- perhaps that is a way to find out more on Mary KIDDER. As I think I mentioned before (to List), there is "a lot" of missing or incorrect information on the KIDDER's who left CT in 1700's and moved to the NY / VT border ! Betty P.S. I think KIDDER's from MA and NH "also" moved north to the NY / VT border, and there is probably missing information on them, also ! Two of the men were the older brothers of my ancestor, Calvin KIDDER, b1765 NH. Wilder KIDDER, oldest son of Joseph KIDDER and Rebecca CHAMBERLAIN of New Ipswich and Temple, NH, was a "famous Fifer" in the Rev. War. He reportedly went north to the VT / NY border and "disappeared." But, someone told me about a year ago that he probably moved to .. PA ! I don't remember finding any more information on his brother, Joseph KIDDER, who probably also fought in the Rev. War, and probably went to the NY / VT border with his brother ! (If he survived the War.) (My Calvin KIDDER, as a very young man, went to Nova Scotia ~1783 with the families of his friends.)