Thank you to everybody for your replies which have answers in part, here is a rough sumation ..... child 1 b 1818 Jefferson Co 2 b 1820 Penfield 3 b 1822 Jefferson Co. 4 b 1824 Jefferson 5 b 1826 Troy, Renssalear 6 b 1827 Oneida 7 b 1828 Rome, Oneida 8 b 1829 Whitestown 9 b 1832 Flushing Queens 10 b 2 Sep.1833 Whitestown Flushing Mother dies 2 Sep.1833 Carlton, Orleans Father dies 1838 ??? (assume NY but could have moved to MI) Now you can see where I am confused ! or do I just put in the "too hard basket" ?? Regards Toni Toni Evans

OK-- Whitestone (not Whitestown) is right next to Flushing in Queens County, so maybe that works, considering that nobody in those days spelled anything consistently. But there's no way the mother could have died the same day the 10th child was born if the child was born there and the mother died in Carlton, Orleans County. Today, maybe, if she flew, but not in 1833. Clearly something is wrong in those records. Are they Bible entries? I know I've seen many errors in those because people often filled them in after the fact, sometimes a whole generation later. One thing you might try is the US Census in 1830. It's head of household's name only, but it would tell you if someone by the right name with a family of people the right age-range lived in Queens County. Then try 1840 for whichever name you think would have assumed head of household status in Queens County, NY and anywhere in Michigan that you may know of. Don't give up yet! Joy toni evans wrote: >Thank you to everybody for your replies which have answers in part, here is a rough sumation ..... > >child 1 b 1818 Jefferson Co >2 b 1820 Penfield >3 b 1822 Jefferson Co. >4 b 1824 Jefferson >5 b 1826 Troy, Renssalear >6 b 1827 Oneida >7 b 1828 Rome, Oneida >8 b 1829 Whitestown >9 b 1832 Flushing Queens >10 b 2 Sep.1833 Whitestown Flushing > >Mother dies 2 Sep.1833 Carlton, Orleans >Father dies 1838 ??? (assume NY but could have moved to MI) > >Now you can see where I am confused ! or do I just put in the "too hard basket" ?? > >Regards Toni > >Toni Evans > > >

If you assume that the location really is Whitestown (in Oneida Co.), then the only thing that's impossible is the Flushing reference. One of your sources has to be wrong, since the mother couldn't give birth in Queens County (or even Oneida County) and die in Orleans County on the same day. Where was the family living on the 1830 census? Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "toni evans" <toni.evans@xtra.co.nz> To: <GEN-NYS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 5:06 PM Subject: [GEN-NYS] Research info ? > Thank you to everybody for your replies which have answers in part, here > is a rough sumation ..... > > child 1 b 1818 Jefferson Co > 2 b 1820 Penfield > 3 b 1822 Jefferson Co. > 4 b 1824 Jefferson > 5 b 1826 Troy, Renssalear > 6 b 1827 Oneida > 7 b 1828 Rome, Oneida > 8 b 1829 Whitestown > 9 b 1832 Flushing Queens > 10 b 2 Sep.1833 Whitestown Flushing > > Mother dies 2 Sep.1833 Carlton, Orleans > Father dies 1838 ??? (assume NY but could have moved to MI) > > Now you can see where I am confused ! or do I just put in the "too hard > basket" ?? > > Regards Toni > > Toni Evans > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GEN-NYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

What was the occupation of the head of household? Perhaps he was a journeyman craftsman, or a seasonal worker. I have one who was a cooper--when he'd made all the barrels the community needed, he'd move on--crossed Ohio that way. Another left Maine making and selling spinning wheels. In NYS there was a group of homebuilders that built houses of local stone work--one sees them every once in a while going west in the Mohawk Valley--probably now historic sites. When the house was done, they went to the next town where someone wanted a house like that. I think it was a German or Dutch group, but don't quote me on that part. Sometimes blacksmiths moved about a lot, too. Do any of these people appear in an 1840 census? I would place a low bet on Whitestown being Whitestone myself. Perhaps the mother was sick at the last--went back to relatives to heal. Look at the names on the census pages before and after--sometimes family members are nearby, especially if there's illness. This lady was birthing children pretty fast. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann O'Hara" <yannster@ptd.net> To: <gen-nys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [GEN-NYS] Research info ? > If you assume that the location really is Whitestown (in Oneida Co.), then > the only thing that's impossible is the Flushing reference. One of your > sources has to be wrong, since the mother couldn't give birth in Queens > County (or even Oneida County) and die in Orleans County on the same day. > Where was the family living on the 1830 census? > > Ann > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "toni evans" <toni.evans@xtra.co.nz> > To: <GEN-NYS@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 5:06 PM > Subject: [GEN-NYS] Research info ? > > >> Thank you to everybody for your replies which have answers in part, here >> is a rough sumation ..... >> >> child 1 b 1818 Jefferson Co >> 2 b 1820 Penfield >> 3 b 1822 Jefferson Co. >> 4 b 1824 Jefferson >> 5 b 1826 Troy, Renssalear >> 6 b 1827 Oneida >> 7 b 1828 Rome, Oneida >> 8 b 1829 Whitestown >> 9 b 1832 Flushing Queens >> 10 b 2 Sep.1833 Whitestown Flushing >> >> Mother dies 2 Sep.1833 Carlton, Orleans >> Father dies 1838 ??? (assume NY but could have moved to MI) >> >> Now you can see where I am confused ! or do I just put in the "too hard >> basket" ?? >> >> Regards Toni >> >> Toni Evans >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GEN-NYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GEN-NYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have somehow missed a portion of this but Penfield is on the Eastern Edge of Monroe County. Next to Ontario County. Isn't there a Carlton in Orleans County also next to Monroe County. Grant ----- Original Message ----- From: "toni evans" <toni.evans@xtra.co.nz> To: <GEN-NYS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 5:06 PM Subject: [GEN-NYS] Research info ? > Thank you to everybody for your replies which have answers in part, here is a rough sumation ..... > > child 1 b 1818 Jefferson Co > 2 b 1820 Penfield > 3 b 1822 Jefferson Co. > 4 b 1824 Jefferson > 5 b 1826 Troy, Renssalear > 6 b 1827 Oneida > 7 b 1828 Rome, Oneida > 8 b 1829 Whitestown > 9 b 1832 Flushing Queens > 10 b 2 Sep.1833 Whitestown Flushing > > Mother dies 2 Sep.1833 Carlton, Orleans > Father dies 1838 ??? (assume NY but could have moved to MI) > > Now you can see where I am confused ! or do I just put in the "too hard basket" ?? > > Regards Toni > > Toni Evans > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GEN-NYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message