BuffaloHistory@yahoogroups.com >From: Clare Stoppa <stoppa1@nrtco.net> >Date: Fri Sep 02 10:04:10 CDT 2005 >To: GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: Buffalo N Y List >Can SKS tell me if there a list that covers the Buffalo area? >Clare in Canada > > >==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== >Have you forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? >Visit the GEN-NYS-L Frequently Asked Questions (And Answers!) web page: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/GEN-NYS-L/FAQ/GEN-NYS-L.txt

> Can SKS tell me if there a list that covers the Buffalo area? Found the other list I remembered. This page at the New York State Archives: <http://www.nysarchives.org/r/otherpeople/otherpeople_discussiongrps.sht ml#Buffalo> mentions a Buffalo history list. N.B. eGroups was absorbed by Yahoo! eyars ago, so if the egroups.com address doesn't work try yahoogroups.com. Bob Sullivan <rsullivan@sals.edu> Schenectady County Public Library (NY) <http://www.scpl.org/> Schenectady Digital History Archive <http://www.schenectadyhistory.org/>

> Can SKS tell me if there a list that covers the Buffalo area? Information about the Buffalo & Erie County list and the one specific to Buffalo's East Side neighborhood may be found at: <http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/NY/erie.html> I seem to recall another one, but I don't have that information right now. Bob Sullivan <rsullivan@sals.edu> Schenectady County Public Library (NY) <http://www.scpl.org/> Schenectady Digital History Archive <http://www.schenectadyhistory.org/>

Can SKS tell me if there a list that covers the Buffalo area? Clare in Canada

Betty and List, You're absolutely right. These people need our help NOW! I work for a film and video production company in Houston, Texas and have heard the stories, firsthand, from the refugees arriving here at the Astrodome. Our stories and work have been on CNN, FOX News and the 700 Club. I've also been in communication with several of our freelance camera operators and sound techs that are working for the different TV networks that are in New Orleans and Gulfport. The problem is immediate and whatever you can do; donations of cash, clothing, food or volunteering your time to any relief organization will help the most. Regardless of the political situation these people are in dire need of your assistance now and in the weeks to come. Your local churches and civic organizations can start food drives, collect benevolence offerings, be a gathering point for used and new clothing but it most start now and with all of us. The people that have been affected have lost everything; homes ,cars, jobs, places of employment and worship, as well as relatives and friends. As amateur genealogists we've all wondered what had happened to a specific ancestor, why they've disappeared, vanished off the face of the earth. This is one of those times where hundreds or even thousands of people will never be heard from again and not a trace of them will be seen. this is one for the history books. Whole communities along the Gulf Coast are gone, completely wiped out, decimated. And with it the infrastructure and the people. Turn on the TV and most of the Networks have a list of the relief agencies that can use your help and the assistance of your community. Sincerely, Steve Goyette Production Manager South Coast Film & Video Houston, Texas 800/229-3550

Hello, I must be one of only of tens of millions of people SOOO Frustrated at watching all the News programs of people .. dying in front of our eyes .. while waiting for "drinking water" or any kind of liquid which is drinkable to arrive at the Louisiana Superdome ! And, as of last night, two "infants" have died of dehydration there ! This week I've already posted on the MA List that I would really like to go by a 20-pack of ..Toilet Paper.. and ship it down there ! The more I watch the News, though, I see where "basic human needs" go way beyond toilet paper. They need FOOD and medicine. They need .. diapers and baby food and formula .. and senior citizens need diapers, also ! They need ..DRY.. clothes ... including undergarments ! How many of us have food, medicine, and "sanitary products" in our homes - which we don't really need ? How many of us have clothes in our home which we really don't need ! Do you have summer clothes you bought this year which you might not wear next summer ? Those people in Louisiana and Mississippi have probably been "living in" the same pair of shorts and t-shirt and underwear .. for a week ! And, they probably arrived at whereever they are being "sheltered" -- soaking wet ! My suggestion is to go to the supermarkets and/or stores and pick up their unwanted cardboard boxes .. and start .. filling them up ! Or, I've found out that "banker's boxes" at the office-supply stores are good for sending packages. I went to www.switchboard.com and found out the address: "Katrina Survivors" c/o Louisiana Superdome 1500 Poydras St New Orleans, LA 70112 OR, we could just send our "we care" packages to the following address: "Katrina Survivors" c/o, the Postmaster New Orleans, LA 70112 Even if the New Orleans Post Office has been destroyed, the packages should go to their "regional Post Office" - and they can decide what to do with them ! And, ... wouldn't it be nice .. if the United States Postal Service .. would allow us to mail our "we care" packages ... for free ! And, the same goes for .. UPS .. and FED EX ... I had occasion to want to use UPS to mail 2 packages at different times to Europe ... and I was "SHOCKED" at how much they wanted to charge me ! $50 for a very small, lightweight package, and $350 for a medium-heavy "banker's box." .... I know very well that the "American Red Cross" NEEDS money, and they "always" say ... DO NOT ..send "care packages." BUT ..... this is different ! In our adult lifetime, we have not seen and heard about .. such wide-spread DESTRUCTION .. and -- human need ! If you cannot send "we care" packages, then I have found that even www.ebay.com is offering a way to "contribute" to the American Red Cross - whether you are a Seller or a Buyer. I will be sending this message to other "State" Lists which I belong to ! Please feel free to pass my "request / suggestion" along to whichever Lists you belong to ! A SEPARATE SUGGESTION? Sit down and write a letter to these families - tell them we DO care ! Offer them as much sympathy as you can ! I'll bet that right now those 10,000 - Plus - people .. feel "totally isolated" from the rest of their State - and definitely isolated from the rest of the U.S. ! And, please say a sincere prayer to "your Higher Being" .. that food and drinking water .. get to "Katrina survivors" -- YESTERDAY ! And, not arriving for the first time - this coming weekend ! Betty (near Lowell, MA)

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I read the article and found it very interesting, thanks for posting it. -----Original Message----- From: Soyamaven@aol.com [mailto:Soyamaven@aol.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 9:11 AM To: GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Interesting article on NYC cemeteries For an interesting article, "Cemeteries" by Joshua Brustein, that provides some history of and an analysis of the current condition of cemeteries in New York City's 5 boroughs, please go to: http://www.gothamgazette.com/article/issueoftheweek/20050822/200/1537 I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. L'Shannah Tovah* & Happy 5766, Walter Greenspan * L'Shannah Tovah (li-SHAH-nuh TOH-vuh; li-shah-NAH toh-VAH) Hebrew. Lit. for a good year. The common greeting during Rosh ha Shannah and the Days of Awe. This is a shortening of "L'Shannah tovah tikatev v'taihatem" (or, to women, "L'Shannah tovah tikatevi v'taihatemi"), which means, "May you be inscribed and sealed for a good year." This year, Rosh ha Shannah begins at sunset on Monday, October 3 on the civil calendar. ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== Have you seen the USGenWeb New York Page? http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb/

For an interesting article, "Cemeteries" by Joshua Brustein, that provides some history of and an analysis of the current condition of cemeteries in New York City's 5 boroughs, please go to: http://www.gothamgazette.com/article/issueoftheweek/20050822/200/1537 I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. L'Shannah Tovah* & Happy 5766, Walter Greenspan * L'Shannah Tovah (li-SHAH-nuh TOH-vuh; li-shah-NAH toh-VAH) Hebrew. Lit. for a good year. The common greeting during Rosh ha Shannah and the Days of Awe. This is a shortening of "L'Shannah tovah tikatev v'taihatem" (or, to women, "L'Shannah tovah tikatevi v'taihatemi"), which means, "May you be inscribed and sealed for a good year." This year, Rosh ha Shannah begins at sunset on Monday, October 3 on the civil calendar.

Does anyone have connection to any of the surnames listed? Laurie

Carolyn, There is a Murderskill Creek South of Albany on the East side of the Hudson. I think it's near East Greenbush. I did not find a town named Murderskill. I wrote back to the poster privately but have not heard back. Maurreen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Seaman" <cseaman@berk.com> To: <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 6:53 AM Subject: Re: PETA Changing NY State's Historical Names?? My NY state atlas lists this stream as the Moordenerskill. I believe it was named for early settlers by the name of Moorderner. At 09:36 PM 8/7/2005, E wrote: >On the East side of the Hudson . South of Albany is Murderskill. > > >==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== >Have you seen the GEN-NYS-L mailing list archives? > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GEN-NYS-L/ ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== Have you forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? Visit the GEN-NYS-L Frequently Asked Questions (And Answers!) web page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/GEN-NYS-L/FAQ/GEN-NYS-L.txt

My NY state atlas lists this stream as the Moordenerskill. I believe it was named for early settlers by the name of Moorderner. At 09:36 PM 8/7/2005, E wrote: >On the East side of the Hudson . South of Albany is Murderskill. > > >==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== >Have you seen the GEN-NYS-L mailing list archives? > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GEN-NYS-L/

On the East side of the Hudson . South of Albany is Murderskill.

Hi Evelyn, I plugged it in to Google and found that the prefix Kil- in Gaelic means "church". Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evelyn Bayna" <ebayna@ucsd.edu> To: <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 1:09 PM Subject: meanings of names Actually, I found the town name meanings quite interesting and most likely helpful. I was wondering as we were in Ireland last summer and went to Kilkenny Castle, my son thought that was a weird name to "Kill Kenny". What do Kil mean in Irish/Gaelic? Does anyone know? Keep the information coming. Evelyn ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== Visit the GEN-NYS-L web page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/GEN-NYS-L/

Can't have genealogy without history, Brian.......just not possible...... think about it. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bri4Bri@aol.com> To: <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 3:27 AM Subject: Is this a genealogy list or political list? please remove me I don't care where people grew up or their opinions about certain "minority" groups..... I'm researching my ancestors and since this list has moved from that, I am requesting that I be removed from the list. Thanks to you intelligent, kind and generous folks that have helped me in the past. If any of you still need my help and want to carry on with genealogy work, feel free to contact me. However, I have eyes and ears to read and hear other non-genealogy news for myself. My great uncle used to say, "opinions are like buttholes, everyone has one!" He was quite right. ciao, adios, hasta lluego, a bientot and bye, brian w williams new orleans PS. A symbol of the south's "heritage" is the rebel flag which goes back to the civil war era... People in the south on either side of the issue will never get that resolved... some say by not keeping it "messes with our heritage" and there are those that say let it go because it is a reminder of "opression and years of slavery, hatred of their people." So I guess whatever the "majority" says goes (whether its right or wrong?) hmmm O well. Nonetheless, when doing genealogy I find family on both sides of the civil war, revolutions (loyalists, etc.) and I'm sure in future generations, many of people in existence today will be found to have been on different sides of today's wars and issues. The Human way. ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== Have you seen the GEN-NYS-L mailing list archives? http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GEN-NYS-L/

Actually, I found the town name meanings quite interesting and most likely helpful. I was wondering as we were in Ireland last summer and went to Kilkenny Castle, my son thought that was a weird name to "Kill Kenny". What do Kil mean in Irish/Gaelic? Does anyone know? Keep the information coming. Evelyn

I apologize. I shouldn't have jumped on the bandwagon as it went by. I never have before and won't again. I have had a lot of information sharing on this and other mailing lists. They do sometimes get off track. While I'm at it, if there is anyone that wants to share Babcock research, please contact me. Laurien Babcock Fan

I can see where you are coming from. If one is acquainted with *past* practices with respect to minority groups perhaps in searching one's ancestors it could help in understanding certain issues affecting one's family or its relationships in a particular community. With respect to current minority issues it seems to this writer such matters would best be discussed privately off list. It, IMO, is not a place to either promote nor put down minority practices. Nor is it a place to promote one's agenda on such issues. G. M. F. Maranatha! .................... On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 09:06:27 +0100 Ruth MacGill <ruth@macgill.co.uk> writes: > Brian like you I am interested in tracing my family and only want > genealogy information. I use the site from the UK and am not really > interested in the opinions of minority groups in America. > Don't leave the group Brian as there are others out there who may > benefit from your knowledge. We in the UK need folks like you to > help > us. > Could a filter be put on those who want to use this site for > non-research purposes? I delete the messages without reading them > and > hope they will stop soon. > > In message <19b.396451c7.302711f9@aol.com>, Bri4Bri@aol.com writes > >I don't care where people grew up or their opinions about certain > "minority" > >groups..... > > > >I'm researching my ancestors and since this list has moved from > that, I am > >requesting that I > > > >be removed from the list. > > > >Thanks to you intelligent, kind and generous folks that have helped > me in the > >past. If any of > > > >you still need my help and want to carry on with genealogy work, > feel free to > >contact me. > > > >However, I have eyes and ears to read and hear other non-genealogy > news for > >myself. > > > >My great uncle used to say, "opinions are like buttholes, everyone > has one!" > > He was quite > > > >right. > > > >ciao, adios, hasta lluego, a bientot and bye, > > > >brian w williams > >new orleans > > > >PS. A symbol of the south's "heritage" is the rebel flag which > goes back to > >the civil war era... > >People in the south on either side of the issue will never get that > >resolved... some say by not keeping it "messes with our heritage" > and > >there are those > >that say let it go because it is a reminder of "opression and years > of > >slavery, > >hatred of their people." So I guess whatever the "majority" says > goes > >(whether its right or wrong?) hmmm O well. > > > >Nonetheless, when doing genealogy I find family on both sides of > the civil > >war, revolutions (loyalists, etc.) and I'm sure in future > generations, many of > >people in existence today will be found to have been on different > sides of > >today's wars and issues. The Human way. > > > > > >==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > >Have you seen the GEN-NYS-L mailing list archives? > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GEN-NYS-L/ > > > > > > > > -- > Ruth MacGill > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.1/64 - Release Date: > 04/08/05 > > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > Have you seen the GEN-NYS-L mailing list archives? > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GEN-NYS-L/ > >

Brian like you I am interested in tracing my family and only want genealogy information. I use the site from the UK and am not really interested in the opinions of minority groups in America. Don't leave the group Brian as there are others out there who may benefit from your knowledge. We in the UK need folks like you to help us. Could a filter be put on those who want to use this site for non-research purposes? I delete the messages without reading them and hope they will stop soon. In message <19b.396451c7.302711f9@aol.com>, Bri4Bri@aol.com writes >I don't care where people grew up or their opinions about certain "minority" >groups..... > >I'm researching my ancestors and since this list has moved from that, I am >requesting that I > >be removed from the list. > >Thanks to you intelligent, kind and generous folks that have helped me in the >past. If any of > >you still need my help and want to carry on with genealogy work, feel free to >contact me. > >However, I have eyes and ears to read and hear other non-genealogy news for >myself. > >My great uncle used to say, "opinions are like buttholes, everyone has one!" > He was quite > >right. > >ciao, adios, hasta lluego, a bientot and bye, > >brian w williams >new orleans > >PS. A symbol of the south's "heritage" is the rebel flag which goes back to >the civil war era... >People in the south on either side of the issue will never get that >resolved... some say by not keeping it "messes with our heritage" and >there are those >that say let it go because it is a reminder of "opression and years of >slavery, >hatred of their people." So I guess whatever the "majority" says goes >(whether its right or wrong?) hmmm O well. > >Nonetheless, when doing genealogy I find family on both sides of the civil >war, revolutions (loyalists, etc.) and I'm sure in future generations, many of >people in existence today will be found to have been on different sides of >today's wars and issues. The Human way. > > >==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== >Have you seen the GEN-NYS-L mailing list archives? > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GEN-NYS-L/ > > > -- Ruth MacGill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.1/64 - Release Date: 04/08/05

I second the motion that most of us out here only want genealogical information and your input is needed, as is mine and that of other participants of this group. Don't care for the opinions of others and if it happens, I ignore it. More of "us" quiet ones out here than you might imagine. Enough said. Don't anyone waste anymore energy or time on THIS subject. Let's get back to genealogy. Thanks, Sandy in Calif. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth MacGill" <ruth@macgill.co.uk> To: <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 1:06 AM Subject: Re: Is this a genealogy list or political list? please remove me > Brian like you I am interested in tracing my family and only want > genealogy information. I use the site from the UK and am not really > interested in the opinions of minority groups in America. > Don't leave the group Brian as there are others out there who may > benefit from your knowledge. We in the UK need folks like you to help > us. > Could a filter be put on those who want to use this site for > non-research purposes? I delete the messages without reading them and > hope they will stop soon. > > In message <19b.396451c7.302711f9@aol.com>, Bri4Bri@aol.com writes > >I don't care where people grew up or their opinions about certain "minority" > >groups..... > > > >I'm researching my ancestors and since this list has moved from that, I am > >requesting that I > > > >be removed from the list. > > > >Thanks to you intelligent, kind and generous folks that have helped me in the > >past. If any of > > > >you still need my help and want to carry on with genealogy work, feel free to > >contact me. > > > >However, I have eyes and ears to read and hear other non-genealogy news for > >myself. > > > >My great uncle used to say, "opinions are like buttholes, everyone has one!" > > He was quite > > > >right. > > > >ciao, adios, hasta lluego, a bientot and bye, > > > >brian w williams > >new orleans > > > >PS. A symbol of the south's "heritage" is the rebel flag which goes back to > >the civil war era... > >People in the south on either side of the issue will never get that > >resolved... some say by not keeping it "messes with our heritage" and > >there are those > >that say let it go because it is a reminder of "opression and years of > >slavery, > >hatred of their people." So I guess whatever the "majority" says goes > >(whether its right or wrong?) hmmm O well. > > > >Nonetheless, when doing genealogy I find family on both sides of the civil > >war, revolutions (loyalists, etc.) and I'm sure in future generations, many of > >people in existence today will be found to have been on different sides of > >today's wars and issues. The Human way. > > > > > >==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > >Have you seen the GEN-NYS-L mailing list archives? > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GEN-NYS-L/ > > > > > > > > -- > Ruth MacGill > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.1/64 - Release Date: 04/08/05 > > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > Have you seen the GEN-NYS-L mailing list archives? > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GEN-NYS-L/ >