You are so right, Connie. I just wrote Kevin privately to THANK him and wrote Linda privately to express my disapproval of HER post to the List. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Connie Berry" <connie.usa@verizon.net> To: <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 11:40 AM Subject: RE: BUSH ACT- Vital to all genealogists (Kooks Attempting to Disrupt Genealogy! >I don't understand why you are reprimanding Kevin because he is responding > to a message that was totally political from SusiCP@aol.com. Now if your > going to reprimand anyone it should be Susi, thank you very much. > > Connie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda Wagner [mailto:jennybear2@earthlink.net] > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 8:25 AM > To: GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: BUSH ACT- Vital to all genealogists (Kooks Attempting to > Disrupt Genealogy! > > Kevin, > > Your comments are inappropriate for a list like this. Please refrain. > > By the way, you need to change your return address when replying to a > list. > > Linda Wagner > > >> [Original Message] >> From: <KevinOBrien8527@aol.com> >> To: <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> >> Date: 2/28/2006 7:25:46 AM >> Subject: Re: BUSH ACT- Vital to all genealogists (Kooks Attempting to > Disrupt Genealogy! >> >> This is just another anti-Bush kook trying to incite further discord. The >> magic word in the article is "activists." The rules have not changed. > Census >> records are not available for 70 years right now and access to relevant > personal >> information regarding live persons should be made very difficult to get > to >> avoid identity theft. A free society is not a socialist model, so > desperately >> being sough by Hillary's nut-jobs. Desperation in the Democratic Party > now in >> disarray, has finally trickled down to genealogy where they hope the > minimally >> informed will join their futile cause. I am very surprised that the list >> manager did not pick up on this. >> >> KMO >> >> >> ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== >> Have you forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? >> Visit the GEN-NYS-L Frequently Asked Questions (And Answers!) web page: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/GEN-NYS-L/FAQ/GEN-NYS-L.html >> > > > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > Have you forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > Visit the GEN-NYS-L Frequently Asked Questions (And Answers!) web page: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/GEN-NYS-L/FAQ/GEN-NYS-L.txt > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/270 - Release Date: 2/27/2006 > > > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > Have you seen the USGenWeb New York Page? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb/ >

The original post was the one that was inappropriate. I too am surprised the Listowner didn't delete it. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Wagner" <jennybear2@earthlink.net> To: <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 11:24 AM Subject: Re: BUSH ACT- Vital to all genealogists (Kooks Attempting to Disrupt Genealogy! > Kevin, > > Your comments are inappropriate for a list like this. Please refrain. > > By the way, you need to change your return address when replying to a > list. > > Linda Wagner > > >> [Original Message] >> From: <KevinOBrien8527@aol.com> >> To: <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> >> Date: 2/28/2006 7:25:46 AM >> Subject: Re: BUSH ACT- Vital to all genealogists (Kooks Attempting to > Disrupt Genealogy! >> >> This is just another anti-Bush kook trying to incite further discord. The >> magic word in the article is "activists." The rules have not changed. > Census >> records are not available for 70 years right now and access to relevant > personal >> information regarding live persons should be made very difficult to get > to >> avoid identity theft. A free society is not a socialist model, so > desperately >> being sough by Hillary's nut-jobs. Desperation in the Democratic Party > now in >> disarray, has finally trickled down to genealogy where they hope the > minimally >> informed will join their futile cause. I am very surprised that the list >> manager did not pick up on this. >> >> KMO >> >> >> ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== >> Have you forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? >> Visit the GEN-NYS-L Frequently Asked Questions (And Answers!) web page: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/GEN-NYS-L/FAQ/GEN-NYS-L.html >> > > > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > Have you forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > Visit the GEN-NYS-L Frequently Asked Questions (And Answers!) web page: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/GEN-NYS-L/FAQ/GEN-NYS-L.txt >

This list is for GENEALOGY and not politics. This is not the place for political Rhetoric/Propaganda !! I'm surprised the list manager is allowing this to go on... Any e-mail to me re this subject will be automatically deleted. Enough is enough. On 28 Feb 2006 at 10:24, KevinOBrien8527@aol.com wrote: This is just another anti-Bush kook trying to incite further discord. The magic word in the article is "activists." The rules have not changed. Census records are not available for 70 years right now and access to relevant personal information regarding live persons should be made very difficult to get to avoid identity theft. A free society is not a socialist model, so desperately being sough by Hillary's nut-jobs. Desperation in the Democratic Party now in disarray, has finally trickled down to genealogy where they hope the minimally informed will join their futile cause. I am very surprised that the list manager did not pick up on this. KMO

This is just another anti-Bush kook trying to incite further discord. The magic word in the article is "activists." The rules have not changed. Census records are not available for 70 years right now and access to relevant personal information regarding live persons should be made very difficult to get to avoid identity theft. A free society is not a socialist model, so desperately being sough by Hillary's nut-jobs. Desperation in the Democratic Party now in disarray, has finally trickled down to genealogy where they hope the minimally informed will join their futile cause. I am very surprised that the list manager did not pick up on this. KMO

That's strictly your opinion. Sorry Linda, I still agree with Kevin. Keep politics off this list. There are lists for this sort of controversy. Enough said, lets get on with the purpose of this list, NYS genealogical research. Connie -----Original Message----- From: Linda Wagner [mailto:jennybear2@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 9:39 AM To: GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: BUSH ACT- Vital to all genealogists (Kooks Attempting to DisruptGenealogy! In my opinion, Kevin's wording was inappropriate. He should not be calling people "kooks" and "nut-jobs" on this site. Thank you very much. Linda Wagner > [Original Message] > From: Connie Berry <connie.usa@verizon.net> > To: <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 2/28/2006 8:44:50 AM > Subject: RE: BUSH ACT- Vital to all genealogists (Kooks Attempting to DisruptGenealogy! > > I don't understand why you are reprimanding Kevin because he is responding > to a message that was totally political from SusiCP@aol.com. Now if your > going to reprimand anyone it should be Susi, thank you very much. > > Connie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda Wagner [mailto:jennybear2@earthlink.net] > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 8:25 AM > To: GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: BUSH ACT- Vital to all genealogists (Kooks Attempting to > Disrupt Genealogy! > > Kevin, > > Your comments are inappropriate for a list like this. Please refrain. > > By the way, you need to change your return address when replying to a list. > > Linda Wagner > > > > [Original Message] > > From: <KevinOBrien8527@aol.com> > > To: <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> > > Date: 2/28/2006 7:25:46 AM > > Subject: Re: BUSH ACT- Vital to all genealogists (Kooks Attempting to > Disrupt Genealogy! > > > > This is just another anti-Bush kook trying to incite further discord. The > > magic word in the article is "activists." The rules have not changed. > Census > > records are not available for 70 years right now and access to relevant > personal > > information regarding live persons should be made very difficult to get > to > > avoid identity theft. A free society is not a socialist model, so > desperately > > being sough by Hillary's nut-jobs. Desperation in the Democratic Party > now in > > disarray, has finally trickled down to genealogy where they hope the > minimally > > informed will join their futile cause. I am very surprised that the list > > manager did not pick up on this. > > > > KMO > > > > > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > > Have you forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > > Visit the GEN-NYS-L Frequently Asked Questions (And Answers!) web page: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/GEN-NYS-L/FAQ/GEN-NYS-L.html > > > > > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > Have you forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > Visit the GEN-NYS-L Frequently Asked Questions (And Answers!) web page: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/GEN-NYS-L/FAQ/GEN-NYS-L.txt > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/270 - Release Date: 2/27/2006 > > > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > Have you seen the USGenWeb New York Page? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb/ > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== Have you seen the USGenWeb New York Page? http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/270 - Release Date: 2/27/2006

In my opinion, Kevin's wording was inappropriate. He should not be calling people "kooks" and "nut-jobs" on this site. Thank you very much. Linda Wagner > [Original Message] > From: Connie Berry <connie.usa@verizon.net> > To: <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 2/28/2006 8:44:50 AM > Subject: RE: BUSH ACT- Vital to all genealogists (Kooks Attempting to DisruptGenealogy! > > I don't understand why you are reprimanding Kevin because he is responding > to a message that was totally political from SusiCP@aol.com. Now if your > going to reprimand anyone it should be Susi, thank you very much. > > Connie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda Wagner [mailto:jennybear2@earthlink.net] > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 8:25 AM > To: GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: BUSH ACT- Vital to all genealogists (Kooks Attempting to > Disrupt Genealogy! > > Kevin, > > Your comments are inappropriate for a list like this. Please refrain. > > By the way, you need to change your return address when replying to a list. > > Linda Wagner > > > > [Original Message] > > From: <KevinOBrien8527@aol.com> > > To: <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> > > Date: 2/28/2006 7:25:46 AM > > Subject: Re: BUSH ACT- Vital to all genealogists (Kooks Attempting to > Disrupt Genealogy! > > > > This is just another anti-Bush kook trying to incite further discord. The > > magic word in the article is "activists." The rules have not changed. > Census > > records are not available for 70 years right now and access to relevant > personal > > information regarding live persons should be made very difficult to get > to > > avoid identity theft. A free society is not a socialist model, so > desperately > > being sough by Hillary's nut-jobs. Desperation in the Democratic Party > now in > > disarray, has finally trickled down to genealogy where they hope the > minimally > > informed will join their futile cause. I am very surprised that the list > > manager did not pick up on this. > > > > KMO > > > > > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > > Have you forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > > Visit the GEN-NYS-L Frequently Asked Questions (And Answers!) web page: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/GEN-NYS-L/FAQ/GEN-NYS-L.html > > > > > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > Have you forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > Visit the GEN-NYS-L Frequently Asked Questions (And Answers!) web page: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/GEN-NYS-L/FAQ/GEN-NYS-L.txt > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/270 - Release Date: 2/27/2006 > > > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > Have you seen the USGenWeb New York Page? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb/ >

I don't understand why you are reprimanding Kevin because he is responding to a message that was totally political from SusiCP@aol.com. Now if your going to reprimand anyone it should be Susi, thank you very much. Connie -----Original Message----- From: Linda Wagner [mailto:jennybear2@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 8:25 AM To: GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: BUSH ACT- Vital to all genealogists (Kooks Attempting to Disrupt Genealogy! Kevin, Your comments are inappropriate for a list like this. Please refrain. By the way, you need to change your return address when replying to a list. Linda Wagner > [Original Message] > From: <KevinOBrien8527@aol.com> > To: <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 2/28/2006 7:25:46 AM > Subject: Re: BUSH ACT- Vital to all genealogists (Kooks Attempting to Disrupt Genealogy! > > This is just another anti-Bush kook trying to incite further discord. The > magic word in the article is "activists." The rules have not changed. Census > records are not available for 70 years right now and access to relevant personal > information regarding live persons should be made very difficult to get to > avoid identity theft. A free society is not a socialist model, so desperately > being sough by Hillary's nut-jobs. Desperation in the Democratic Party now in > disarray, has finally trickled down to genealogy where they hope the minimally > informed will join their futile cause. I am very surprised that the list > manager did not pick up on this. > > KMO > > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > Have you forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > Visit the GEN-NYS-L Frequently Asked Questions (And Answers!) web page: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/GEN-NYS-L/FAQ/GEN-NYS-L.html > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== Have you forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? Visit the GEN-NYS-L Frequently Asked Questions (And Answers!) web page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/GEN-NYS-L/FAQ/GEN-NYS-L.txt -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/270 - Release Date: 2/27/2006

Kevin, Your comments are inappropriate for a list like this. Please refrain. By the way, you need to change your return address when replying to a list. Linda Wagner > [Original Message] > From: <KevinOBrien8527@aol.com> > To: <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 2/28/2006 7:25:46 AM > Subject: Re: BUSH ACT- Vital to all genealogists (Kooks Attempting to Disrupt Genealogy! > > This is just another anti-Bush kook trying to incite further discord. The > magic word in the article is "activists." The rules have not changed. Census > records are not available for 70 years right now and access to relevant personal > information regarding live persons should be made very difficult to get to > avoid identity theft. A free society is not a socialist model, so desperately > being sough by Hillary's nut-jobs. Desperation in the Democratic Party now in > disarray, has finally trickled down to genealogy where they hope the minimally > informed will join their futile cause. I am very surprised that the list > manager did not pick up on this. > > KMO > > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > Have you forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > Visit the GEN-NYS-L Frequently Asked Questions (And Answers!) web page: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/GEN-NYS-L/FAQ/GEN-NYS-L.html >

http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/2488 Please become aware of what is about to happen if we don't wake up. SusiCP

Can anyone help us complete this set for our Research Room?? Dan Burrows Orange County Genealogical Society 101 Main Street Goshen NY 10924 Issues Wanted: Dutch Settlers Society of Albany Volume 2 (1926-1927) Volume 21-22 (1945-1947) Volume 23 (1947-1948) Volume 24 (1948-1949) Volume 25-26 (1949-1951) Volume 27 (1951-1952) Volume 28-29 (1952-1954)

I had posted a request for a 1902 birth certificate look up in the beginning of January and had someone volunteer but have been heard from them since. Have e-mailed with requested receipt and got no response. I think something must have happened to this person. I would like to ask again for a volunteer. Looking for certificate # 1636 for Clara Huhta born April 19, 1902. Bronx. Need to know who the parents are in order to know if this is the right person. Hoping her mother was Maria Josefina, maybe went by Mary or Fiina etc. Mother born in Finland 1880. Lorene Schertzl ************************** "I Seek Dead People!"

Many, many more biographies, newspaper articles, BMDs and Ontario County History has been added to the Ontario Co. website, http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/ontario/ with more to come in the coming month! Much thanks to Donna and Deborah for their help in transcribing these items along with me. Dianne

Is the 1953-60 NY State Death Index available anywhere other than thru the State at http://www.health.state.ny.us/nysdoh/vr/forms/genealogy.htm Libraries?? WWW? I am searching for my lost gf Frank Wm COAKLEY b 27 Aug 1887 last seen 1944 in Wyoming, Monroe, Livingston & Genesee Cos. Thanks, Hal McCawley 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 760.941.4716 <HalMac@Cox.net>

Hi. Can anyone tell me where and how to obtain details of a place and register of birth for my Great-grandfather believed born in New York 1857 David Marion Dunbar born 1857 new York. I believe his father a mariner was also listed as details below, any help would be gratefully appreciated Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Record Name:David M. Dunbar Year:1838 Place:New York Source Publication Code:8197.10 Primary Immigrant:Dunbar, David M. Frank Hurst Liverpool England UK

New York didn't start recording deaths until 1880. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty" <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> To: <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 8:34 AM Subject: Deaths at "Battle of Saratoga" - 1777 (KIDDER) > Hello again, > > I'd like to ask separately whether the State of NY recorded the deaths of > the soldiers who died at the Battle of Saratoga -- IF the name of the > soldier was known ! > > And, during the 1770's, would the death have been recorded both in NY and > the State where the soldier resided when he died? > > Betty (near Lowell, MA) > > > P.S. I've been looking for more information on a Joseph KIDDER who > reportedly died in Saratoga in 1777 ! > > As per my other postings, out of 4 Joseph's who "might" have fought in the > Revolutionary War, there appears to be only 2 who could have died in > 1777: > > Joseph KIDDER, b1763 NH In 1777, Age ~14 > Joseph KIDDER, b1720 CT In 1777, Age ~57 > > (Nothing else is known about Joseph, b1720, in the KIDDER book. The > possibility exists that he died young.) > > (Joseph, b1763, was the brother of my ancestor. Nothing is known about > him after 1777.) > > Another Joseph, b1761, was a first cousin of my ancestor, and he married > in 1795. > Another Joseph, b1741, was the long-time Minister in Dunstable, MA / > Nashua, NH -- the Rev. Joseph KIDDER, who died there in 1818. > > Thank you for your time. > > Betty (near Lowell, MA) > > > > > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > Have you seen the GEN-NYS-L mailing list archives? > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GEN-NYS-L/ > >

Hello again, I'd like to ask separately whether the State of NY recorded the deaths of the soldiers who died at the Battle of Saratoga -- IF the name of the soldier was known ! And, during the 1770's, would the death have been recorded both in NY and the State where the soldier resided when he died? Betty (near Lowell, MA) P.S. I've been looking for more information on a Joseph KIDDER who reportedly died in Saratoga in 1777 ! As per my other postings, out of 4 Joseph's who "might" have fought in the Revolutionary War, there appears to be only 2 who could have died in 1777: Joseph KIDDER, b1763 NH In 1777, Age ~14 Joseph KIDDER, b1720 CT In 1777, Age ~57 (Nothing else is known about Joseph, b1720, in the KIDDER book. The possibility exists that he died young.) (Joseph, b1763, was the brother of my ancestor. Nothing is known about him after 1777.) Another Joseph, b1761, was a first cousin of my ancestor, and he married in 1795. Another Joseph, b1741, was the long-time Minister in Dunstable, MA / Nashua, NH -- the Rev. Joseph KIDDER, who died there in 1818. Thank you for your time. Betty (near Lowell, MA)

Hello, I just checked the 1941 "KIDDER book" and the Joseph KIDDER mentioned as having been born in 1761 turns out to be a first-cousin of my ancestor, Calvin KIDDER, b1765, and his two brothers, Wilder and Joseph. The 3 KIDDER brothers who lived in New Ipswich and Temple, NH, as adults had 2 other brothers. Thomas (Cornet) KIDDER, the oldest brother, remained in the Westford, MA, area, and Francis KIDDER, the youngest brother, seems to have lived in both Concord, MA, and Tyngsboro, MA. And, Francis KIDDER, and his wife, Lucy _____, had 10 children. One of them was a son, Joseph KIDDER, b1761 in Concord, MA. The book says that this Joseph KIDDER had his name appear on the list of men who marched from Temple, NH, to Cambridge, MA, on the Alarm of April 19, 1775, and he was later on the roll of Capt. SMITH's Company, enlisted for service in NY, out of Col. Enoch HALE's Regiment, Sept. 21, 1776. The book also says that he had married for the second time to Huldah STILES of Temple, NH (b. Middleton, MA) in 1795. And, they had children born to them from 1795 to 1814, so he could not have been the soldier who died in NY in 1777. (Joseph and Huldah moved to Topsham, ME, at some point and remained there.) Thank you for your time. Betty (near Lowell, MA) P.S. The 4 Joseph KIDDER's mentioned in my other e-mail this morning were: Joseph KIDDER, b1720 CT, with no family information and no date of death. Joseph KIDDER, b1741 MA, who died "after 1777." Joseph KIDDER, b1763 NH, with no further information after 1777. Joseph KIDDER, b1761 MA, who married in 1795. So, the two choices for being the Joseph KIDDER who died at Saratoga, NY, were the man from CT at Age 57, or my ancestor's brother, the man from NH at Age 14 !!

Hello, For several weeks I've been trying to find out (again) what happened to my KIDDER ancestor's two older brothers. The 3 were the only sons of Joseph and Rebecca (CHAMBERLAIN) KIDDER, originally of Chelmsford, MA, but who lived their married life in New Ipswich and Temple, NH. They also had 6 daughters.) The oldest son, Wilder KIDDER, b1753 NH, was a Fifer in the War, and fought at, for example, "Bunker Hill," "Saratoga," and "Valley Forge." We're slowly gathering information about his adult life. After living in NY and NJ and then coming back to NH, he and his NJ wife seem to have lived their last years in NH. We are trying to find out which town they died in (after 1820). The middle son was Joseph KIDDER, b1763 NH, and he is the one who seems to have fought in the War at a very young age ! And, nothing is known about him after 1777 ! We are thinking that he might have gone to Saratoga, NY, with his older brother - and died there ! But, I wrote to "the KIDDER expert" in FL, and this was his response: Here is what I found on Joseph Kidder who died....during the Rev. War. Private JOSEPH KIDDER served in a Massachusetts Regiment during the Revolutionary War. Joseph enlisted in Captain Abishai Brown's Company, of Colonel Josiah White's Regiment, as a private. His name appears on an abstract for advance pay, 24 June 1776, in Suffolk County. Joseph appears in petition date 17 September 1776 at Camp Hull, "said Kidder and others belonging to the Battalion stationed at Hull, asking for increase and payment of wages". Joseph Kidder in an order dated 10 July 1776, for advance pay, blanket money, travel, by said Kidder and others in Captain Brown's Company of Colonel Whitney's Regiment. He appeared on a list of men raised to serve in the Continental Army from Shrewsbury in Colonel Job Cushing's 6th Worcester Company Regiment. He lived in Westford but engaged for the town of Shrewsbury. Joseph joined Captain Bullard's Company, of Colonel Alden's Regiment for three years. Joseph Kidder re-enlisted 17 June 1777, in Captain Ballard Company of Colonel Ichabod Alden's Regiment, muster roll dated at Albany, New York. Joseph Kidder was carried as having died, 30 October 1777, while other reports gave 31 October 1777, while in the service, cause of death and circumstances are unknown. During this time period, no battles or actions took place. Between 7-17 October 1777, a major battle took place at Saratoga, New York, but its unknown if Joseph was present. (((There are four possible Joseph Kidder's who may have served this enlistment. Joseph Kidder born in Mansfield, Connecticut 13 October 1720, age 57, no date of death or family, his age makes this questionable. Second, Joseph Kidder born in Billerica, 29 November 1741, age 35, but his date of death was after 1777. Joseph Kidder born Aug. 1763, No date of death or record of any family, a possibility but his young age makes it questionable. The last Joseph Kidder born (1761) he lived in Temple, MA, married 1795.)))((((Checked all family records and census, unable to locate any Joseph Kidder who died on or near that date in history.)))) .... I haven't had time to find out who the Joseph KIDDER was, b1761, who lived in Temple, MA (or a typo and supposed to be Temple, NH). .... I have become very curious whether all the men and teens (soldiers) who died at the Battle of Saratoga .. had their deaths recorded by the State of NY !! Along the same line, going by "death record policies of today," would the deaths of those soldiers have been recorded both in NY and in the state they were a resident of (IF known)? Thank you for your time ! Betty (near Lowell, MA)

Mary KIDDER, b.14 MAY 1745 poss. CT?, d.02 JUL 1822, bur. East Chatham Cemetery, Columbia Co., NY., married 29 OCT 1765? in Amenia, Dutchess Co., NY., Capt. Nathan HERRICK (1743-1826) s/o Stephen & Phebe (DENNISON) HERRICK. Sources: Doherty "Settlers of the Beekman Patent", personally surveyed gravestones, HERRICK Genealogy. Does anyone have any further information on Mary (KIDDER) HERRICK (1745-1822)? Dick Hillenbrand Upstate New York Genealogy (UNYG) www.ny-genes.com

Greetings to all! Can anyone assist me in finding the burial location of a Revolutionary War Captain that died in Berlin, NY? His name was Jonathan Greene (aka Johnathan Green); bn. 30 Apr 1749 in West Greenwich, RI; dd. 30 Jun 1807 in Berlin, Renssalaer County, NY. His patriot status is verified by the DAR but they list no burial location that I can find. Any help would be greatly appreciated. FREDERICK GREEN Colorado Springs, CO