Hi Looking for information on the following families: Michael (born 1814, Prussia) and Katherina (Nordt) born 1816, Prussia) HERMANN Children: Katherine, born 1836 in Germany/Prussia John, born 1846 in Germany/Prussia In 1860 I find them in West Farms, Westchester Co. In 1870 in Morrisania, Westchester Co. By 1880 they are in Manhattan and 1900 Katherine is a widow in the Bronx living with her son. Second Family: John and Margaretha (Nordt) DORSTE/DORSTY Daughter: Mary Elizabeth was born abt. 1852 Son John was born in Croton-on-Hudson abt. 1855. Are these areas in Westchester Co. close to each other for the two families abt. 1850? Where would I find vital or church records for the early years, believe family was Protestant? Hope someone can help me. Thank you Marie

Thanks for the lookups! You've added important information to my research. Jan Rogge from Western MA. Researching NOWAK, MACKSEY, CIULA, BIGGART, MORSE, MERRY

Does anyone on this list have access to the following, found at WWW.genelogical.com, to lookup Solomon MORSE? From CD 7183 EARLY SETTLERS OF NEW YORK STATE Their Ancestors and Descendants [CD] Book No. 1935 Solomon MORSE Early Settlers of New York State Their Ancestors and Descendants. Two Volumes page 392

Hi Joann, Phinehas SANDERSON [1751-1840], MA>VT, was my maternal 5 great grand uncle, who married Lucy BURKE. Does your client have more children than Anne, Lucy, and Susey SANDERSON? I am a direct descendant of Phineas brother, Benjamin SANDERSON, son of John and Hannah STRATTON SANDERSON, b. 16 Nov. 1707 in Watertown, Middlesex, MA, m. 8 Feb. 1736 or 1737 Elizabeth M. GREEN in Leichester, MA. Benjamin SANDERSON's children born probably in Leicester, Worcester Co., MA, were Elizabeth, Benjamin Jr., Mary, Ebenezer, John, James, Phinehas, Azubah, and Rufus SANDERSON. Elizabeth M. GREEN SANDERSON died 27 Aug. 1801 in Woodstock, Windsor Co., VT. If you find proof that in this case, SAUNDERS is the same as SANDERSON, please let me know. Happy searching, Jan Jordan in VT <jnrose@webtv.net>

In the 1791 census for Woodstock, Windsor Co., VT is a Phinehas SANDERSON with four males under 16, two males over 16 and six females. I believe he is the Phinehas SAUNDERS who in 1800 is living in Bridgewater, Windsor Co., VT with one male under 10, one male 10-16, three males 16-26 and one male 45 and over, as well as two females under 10, two females 10-16, one female 16-26, and one female 26-45. In 1810 Phinehas Saunders, Jr. is living in Bridgewater with two males under 10, one male 26-45, one female under 10 and one female 26-45. Phinehas, Sr. and John Saunders are also in Bridgewater in 1810. In 1820, there's a Phineas Saunders living in Whitehall, Washington Co., NY. In 1830 there's a Warren Saunders in Whitehall and in 1840 there's a Warren Saunders living in Genesee, Livingston Co., NY. I need proof that the 1820 and 1830 Warren Saunders are the same person and that he is a son of Phineas Saunders. I also need proof that in this case, SAUNDERS is the same as SANDERSON. Thanks! Joann Nichols

Hello, I know most of you won't see this message in time, but there is a movie showing on one of the Cable channels right now which might be of interest ! It's a 1952 movie, named "The Girl in White," and it is about the first female doctor in the U.S. http://www.nlm.nih.gov/changingthefaceofmedicine/physicians/biography_23.html .. While on the subject, someone on the Nova Scotia List offered me a web site mentioning the history of hospitals there. I was wondering if anyone knew of a web site which offered the history of hospitals in New York State .. or the U.S. in general ! I read that hospitals which were founded during the 1800's .. compared little to what we know of hospitals today ! And "many" patients were lost ! (Also read that there was a high death rate of children in orphanages in past centuries ! Would it have been that much difference between Canada and the U.S. in the late 1800's and early 1900's?) Betty (near Lowell, MA)

I WENT TO THIS SITE AND IT ATTEMPTED TO DOWN LOAD SOMETHING WITHOUT MY DOING ANYTHING. I DO NOT KNOW IF THIS IS an ok site or not, just want to warn everyone what happen to me. -----Original Message----- From: Michael spencer [mailto:mike@decc9.fsnet.co.uk] Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 4:53 PM To: GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Yesterdays Journey Hi list, the above site has recently been updated with various records covering Settlement,Bastardy,Apprentice,Removal etc. Derbyshire based it contains many names of folks from other counties who for one reason or another had a connection ,however tenuous with Derbyshire. It may be you have no Derbyshire connections, I expect most of you will not have, however a lot of you will have English ancestors and the above site will give you an idea of just what may be found in certain documents in English Record Offices. And you never know what you may find. It may just be your lost Uncle Jack is here. ! Yesterday Journey located at; http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm mike ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== Have you seen the USGenWeb New York Page? http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb/

Hi list, the above site has recently been updated with various records covering Settlement,Bastardy,Apprentice,Removal etc. Derbyshire based it contains many names of folks from other counties who for one reason or another had a connection ,however tenuous with Derbyshire. It may be you have no Derbyshire connections, I expect most of you will not have, however a lot of you will have English ancestors and the above site will give you an idea of just what may be found in certain documents in English Record Offices. And you never know what you may find. It may just be your lost Uncle Jack is here. ! Yesterday Journey located at; http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm mike

Chautaugua County Histories for the towns of Ellery, Sheriden and Stockton were added. These contain much informatin on the early settlers of the towns. Jefferson County It has been a while but I am beck to Jefferson County, histories for the towns of Rutland & Wilna were just added. These are very much like the other towns that I have online for Jefferson County, Rather long and nameing almost everyone in some way. Livingston County Histories for the towns of Ossin and West Sparta were just added. Both towns contain rather long tables listing all men from the area who were in the war of the Rebellion, as well as of all the Supervisors and Town Clerks. The rest of the towns histories for Livingston County are rather long and will take a while to get ready. If you have not visited my web site in a while I have recientely added more histories for Cayuga and Onondaga Counties. Wow, this makes 391 histories for New York that I have online. The only state with more it Maine, but they are mostely much smaller. These may all be found at the New York local history section of my website at: http://history.rays-place.com/ny/index.htm And of course you are invited to visit the whole website at: http://www.rays-place.com Cheers Ray Brown

Hello listers, I'm ready to hire a researcher in NY city. I need someone to go to the Municipal Archives in Manhattan and check certain court records indexes. I know specifically what I need checked and the time periods involved. Can anyone recommend a researcher? Thanks. Michele Seattle

The following town histories for New York were added to my web site today. Cayuga County Conquest, Montezuma and Sempronitus. Chautauqua County Jamestown, Ripley, Sherman and Villenava. Onondaga County Marcellus and Spafford. These are the first that I have for Chautauqua County, but the others have others online already. There are over 300 histories for New York at my web site. Please explore than all, I am sure that you will find something of interest there. New York Local Histories http://history.rays-place.com/ny/index.htm Main page to Rays-Place http://www.rays-place.com Cheers Ray Brown

The 1850 census is indexed through Ancestry. I believe they have all of NYS. Also, people in NY didn't have to record any vital records until after 1880, so it would be rare to find any records. Joann Nichols

Can anyone tell me if there is a look-up service for deaths in NY between 1920 and 1970 or how I can obtain a copy of the certificate. Regards David

What town, David?? Town Clerks have them for the most part. My great -grandmother Ackerly died in Hopewell Junction, NY in 1921. I called the Town Clerk (local cal for me) and she told me to send $11 and info I wanted. In a week I had Death Certificate back. On the other hand I had to jump thru hoops to get my great grandfather Smith's Death certificate from Rochester, NY. ....bigger city and uncaring clerks. They still had to give it to me....just waited longer and phone call was frustrating (and not local). Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "DBurrows" <dbur0757@bigpond.net.au> To: <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 1:17 AM Subject: VITAL RECORDS > Can anyone tell me if there is a look-up service for deaths in NY between > 1920 and 1970 or how I can obtain a copy of the certificate. > > Regards > > David > > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > Visit the GEN-NYS-L web page: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/GEN-NYS-L/ >

It would be nice if the list administrator published the steps for cutting/copying - pasting. The digest form is so cluttered with repeat items that it is not worth searching for new submissions. Not political, just eyes are getting older. Jim

Linda, Nobody has access to New York State Census records on line. You must go to a site that has the census records for the county you are looking for, which may be the county historical society, or the county main library, or the county court house. The State library in Albany has some of them, but again you have to go to Albany, or hire a local person to do your lookup. If you tell me which county you are interested in, I have a source that says where the records are, if the exist. There is no state wide index, and in fact no index at all. Also, you can rent the microfilm records for a particular county and year from the a FHC site, if the records exist, if there is a FHC near you that you can visit. As I said above , there is no index for these records, so you will have to search the microfilm line-by-line. That said, some of the county GenWeb Sites have records and indexes on line, such as Yates Count, and some libraries have transcripts available, but not on line. Visit each County GenWeb Site to see if it has what you are looking for. Carl Hommel -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Linda Wagner" <jennybear2@earthlink.net> > Is there anyone who has access to the NY State Census images who would look up a > couple of people for me? > > I am trying to find out the birth county for Orrin B. Ide, born 1820 New York, > who lived in Saratoga in 1850 and may have still been there in 1855. By 1860 he > had moved to Michigan. > > I am also trying to find the birth county for Royal Ide, born 1825 in New York, > who lived in Niagara in 1860. By 1870, he had moved to Michigan. > > My ancestor is Harris Ide, born in 1821 in Rensselaer County. > > Thanks for any help! > Linda Wagner > > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > Have you forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > Visit the GEN-NYS-L Frequently Asked Questions (And Answers!) web page: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/GEN-NYS-L/FAQ/GEN-NYS-L.txt >

Your best bet is to find someone to look in the NYS Vital Records index. These can be found in the NYS Archives in Albany, located in the NYS Library Bldg, the Onondaga Co. Library in Syracuse, NY and in the Rochester Public Library in Rochester, NY. This will tell you the exact City, Village or Town Clerk's address. (They are not usually located with the County Clerks!) Before 1850 neither the federal nor the state censuses list all the family members, just the heads of household and the number of others in the family by sex and in age groups. Therefore the first NYS census that would probably help you is the 1855 one. The NYS index excludes NYC and a few other large cities I believe Buffalo is one. Esther Griffin, Binghamton, NY

I'm SO glad I'm in NY. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Perrin Larton" <perrin@garlic.com> To: <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 6:27 PM Subject: Re: Vital Records Access > Hi Kay, > > A few years back...maybe 5 or so...the State of California was selling > CD's > of the CABI (California Birth Index) to whoever could come up with the > $1000.00 for the set. Ancestry purchased a set and so did I. I guess > it's > like trying to put a genie back in the bottle. For a while, Ancestry did > not have these on their site due to possible litigation...I think. > Apparently that's been settled. > > My siblings, my parents, aunts, uncles, inlaws and outlaws are all on the > CABI. Before all the problems with identity theft, these records were > available in the local newspapers and people could walk into the recorders > office and get a birth certificate for anyone...that gap has been > eliminated BUT crooks are ALWAYS going to find a way around a rule. > > Let's punish the law breakers...not the law abiders who just want to find > family. I don't think you have anything to worry about...most identity > thieves go for the easy 'get'...they just go through your trash! > > Perrin > > At 01:09 PM 3/1/06 -0700, Kay wrote: >>I have been a 'lurker' here, hoping to spot some info on my New York >>ancestors. The discussion on vital records access began just after I >>became aware of a situation I find very troubling. In light of this >>discussion, I thought it may be appropriate to request some feed-back, >>even though it does not directly relate to NY ancestors. >> >>I discovered on Ancestry.com a database called "California Birth Index >>1905-1995". Entering my maiden name brought up myself, my brother, my >>children and 6 cousins. The index contains: full name, date of birth, >>gender, county of birth, and mother's maiden name. All information which >>can be used for identity theft. These entries were for births between >>1956 and 1995. Ten of the persons in question are still living. I >>consider it an act of gross negligence on the part of the State of >>California and Ancestry.com to place such recent records on-line. >>Although it may be very common, this is the first time I have found such >>recent information from birth records so easily available. >> >>Feedback, please. Am I over-reacting, or would others be upset to find >>this information? >> >> >>==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== >>Have you forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? >>Visit the GEN-NYS-L Frequently Asked Questions (And Answers!) web page: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/GEN-NYS-L/FAQ/GEN-NYS-L.txt >> >> >> > > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > Have you seen the GEN-NYS-L mailing list archives? > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GEN-NYS-L/ >

I have contacted Rochester, NY which has access to all Monroe County Libraries. They have no Heritage Quest nor any other such service ----- Original Message ----- From: "quillpen1" <quillpen1@optonline.net> To: <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 4:34 PM Subject: Re: Godfrey Library & Hertage Quest > Not my library........ and here where I live in NYS we must join the library > that services our zone (meaning our home address). No exceptions!! > > We can't even borrow books directly from a nearby library. I've been going > thru this for y-e-a-r-s. > > Maureen > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "D Thomas" <dizlynn1@earthlink.net> > To: <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 3:39 PM > Subject: Godfrey Library & Hertage Quest > > > > If you have a NY state library card, you can access the Heritage Quest > > program through for FREE, through your being a member of the library > > system. Call or contact the larger libraries in either Albany, Syracuse > > or Rochester for more details. I've been told some of the smaller town > > libraries may also have this available, but I would contact one of the 3 > > larger ones, that have genealogy departments to get more detail on the > > FREE usage of Heritage Quest, through your library. > > > > I live out of state, but have a NY state card, because when I go there, I > > do research. I'm sure others on this list are more familiar with how to > > sign up for this very useful tool, since you can view Census records from > > your home, 24/7 and its FREE. Other items besides the census are > > available for viewing, so contact one of the larger libraries (you can use > > google to find them), and ask. It never hurts to ask. > > > > Dianne > > > > > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > > Have you forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > > Visit the GEN-NYS-L Frequently Asked Questions (And Answers!) web page: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/GEN-NYS-L/FAQ/GEN-NYS-L.txt > > > > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > Have you seen the USGenWeb New York Page? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb/ >

Not my library........ and here where I live in NYS we must join the library that services our zone (meaning our home address). No exceptions!! We can't even borrow books directly from a nearby library. I've been going thru this for y-e-a-r-s. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "D Thomas" <dizlynn1@earthlink.net> To: <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 3:39 PM Subject: Godfrey Library & Hertage Quest > If you have a NY state library card, you can access the Heritage Quest > program through for FREE, through your being a member of the library > system. Call or contact the larger libraries in either Albany, Syracuse > or Rochester for more details. I've been told some of the smaller town > libraries may also have this available, but I would contact one of the 3 > larger ones, that have genealogy departments to get more detail on the > FREE usage of Heritage Quest, through your library. > > I live out of state, but have a NY state card, because when I go there, I > do research. I'm sure others on this list are more familiar with how to > sign up for this very useful tool, since you can view Census records from > your home, 24/7 and its FREE. Other items besides the census are > available for viewing, so contact one of the larger libraries (you can use > google to find them), and ask. It never hurts to ask. > > Dianne > > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > Have you forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > Visit the GEN-NYS-L Frequently Asked Questions (And Answers!) web page: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/GEN-NYS-L/FAQ/GEN-NYS-L.txt >