As a genealogy researcher I am sure you would love to be able to utilize the wonderful research material available at the New York State Library in Albany during the weekend. This would make it so much easier for out of state travelers and especially for those local researchers who work full time. Please read the following two items that deal with an effort to have weekend hours at the library and if you see, fit please write a letter, email or fax as requested below. As a presentation to the Regents on this topic is being made on January 8, time is of the utmost importance. If this proposal for weekend hours interest you, send an email or fax before January 8 to have your voice heard. Thanks, Bill McGrath TIGS Project Coordinator Clifton Park, NY Email From Jeanne Keefe - Troy Irish Genealogy Webmaster Hello Everyone: On Friday I received this email from Loretta Ebert, Director, New York State Library and I am asking for your help. Loretta, who was previously my Director of Libraries at RPI, moved on to the NYS Library last summer and before she left Rensselaer I asked her to look into the possibility of keeping the NYS library open for one day over the weekend. Since most of us work 9-5, M-F, we are unable to do any research at our State Library because we can't get there when its open during the week. I also mentioned that many genealogists travel to the Albany-Troy-Schenectady area to do family research and are severely limited by the library's present schedule. Weekend hours, even if only one day, would allow more of us to access the very important resources that are only available at the NYS Library. In September, I met Loretta and she mentioned that she was encountering some resistance to the idea, but felt confident that she would be able to open the library, maybe on Saturdays, at some point late in the Fall. In the following letter you will see that she is asking for some help in convincing the Board of Regents to allow her to open the library on the weekend and has asked for letters (or emails)in support of this move. Please read her letter below and take a few minutes to mail, email or fax a brief letter to Loretta in support of her initiative. I think it is a very important opportunity for genealogists and historians to have their concerns voiced and research needs recognized. This is also a unique opportunity to be involved in a change that has the potential to improve access to these important records and resources, especially for those of us needing to do family research in the New York State Library. For more information about the NYS Research Library's genealogy collections use this link: http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/gengen.htm.Thank you all very much, in advance, for taking the time to read this and I hope you can take a few minutes to send Loretta a response by the end of the week. Jeanne Keefe TIGS Webmaster and Visual Resources Librarian Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Architecture Library 100 8th Street, Greene 326 Troy,, NY 12180 tel: 518-276-2727 email: keefej@rpi.edu Email From Director, New York State Library Loretta Ebert Director, New York State Library Cultural Education Center - Rm 10D34 Albany, NY 12230 518-473-1189 LEBERT@mail.nysed.gov Hi Jeanne, Happy New Year! I am preparing a presentation to the Regents in early January (8th) about opening the library on Saturdays. As I recall, you were supportive of this idea. I wonder if you would be willing to send a letter to me advocating extended hours for the library, citing difficulties with the current Monday-Friday 9 to 5 schedule and the lack of access to the "wonderful" resources of the New York State Library. Use whatever perspectives you have: librarian, genealogist, local historian, or all of them! I would greatly appreciate it. Also, if you know of others who could provide similar supportive letters, would you ask them to send such to me too, or let me know their names? Thanks so much for your help, I think these kinds of testimonials are most effective with the power structure around here. My contact info: Loretta Ebert Director, New York State Research Library Cultural Education Center Room 10D34 Albany, NY 12230 Email (an email attachment is okay): LEBERT@mail.nysed.gov or FAX: 518-486-6880 Thanks a million! Loretta

Hi Joann Nichols, For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Prattsburgh Free Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): Prattsburgh Free Library PO Box 426 (mailing) 26 Main Street (physical) Prattsburgh, NY 14873 Tel: 607/522-3490 Fax: 607-522-3490 eMail: platek@stls.org http://www.stls.org/Prattsburgh/ I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY

Denison Herrick appears in the 1870 census for Prattsburgh, Steuben County, NY, age 95 (probably should be 91), living with his daughter, Esther and her husband, John Ringrose. He is not with them in 1875. I would like to find a death record for Denison Herrick. Thanks! Joann Nichols

Seeking information on Jonathan Herrick born about 1803 in Vermont, perhaps Middletown or Poultney, Rutland County. He was son of Denison and Lucy (Sweet) Herrick. In 1840 Jonathan Herrick is in Hopewell, Ontario, NY with one male under 5, one male 5-10, one male 30-40 (Jonathan); 1 female 5-10, two females 10-15, one female 15-20, one female 30-40. In 1850 Jonathan Herrick, age 48 is still in Hopewell, Laborer, $150 real estate, born NY; Hannah, age 48, born NY; Julia, age 10, born NY; Watson, age 8, born NY; Lorinzo[?], age 6, born NY. In 1860, Jonathan Herrick, age 57, is living in Canandaigua, Ontario Co., NY born VT; he is in the household of Germain Mattison, age 35, farm laborer, $150 real estate, born VT; Rhoda, age 30, born NY; Harriet L., age 9, born NY; Elizabeth J., age 5, born NY; Mary Etta, age 2, born NY. I believe Rhoda is also a daughter of Jonathan and Hannah, as in the 1865 census for Gorham, Ontario Co., NY, there is a listing for J.C. Mattison, age 39, born VT, farmer; R. Matteson, age 34, wife, born Ontario Co., five children; H. Herrick, age 56, mother, born Orange Co., NY, seven children; H.I[?] Matteson, age 14, child, born Ontario Co.; H.M. Mattison, age 12, child, born Ontario Co.; E.J. Mattison, age 10, child, born Ontario Co.; M.E. Mattison, age 7, born Yates Co.; O.F. Mattison, age 3[?], child, born Yates Co. H[annah] Herrick isn't listed as a widow, but I don't find Jonathan in 1865. I don't find Jonathan or Hannah in 1870, but the Mattison family are living in Potter, Yates Co., NY. In 1850 Jommon Madison, age 25 and Rhoda, age 20, are living in Phelps, Ontario Co., NY. He was born VT, and she NY. I would like to find additional information on Jonathan and Hannah (what was her maiden name), and Germain[?] Mattison and where in VT he came from. Thanks, and Happy New Year! Joann Nichols

Genealogy LookUp Forum is a web site of volunteers who will do various types of genealogical look ups such as births, census, cemetery, deaths and marriage. Please visit the site to locate a volunteer in your area. I am sure you will not be disappointed on how helpful these folks with genealogy. _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genealogylookup/index.html_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genealogylookup/index.html)

Hello, I am new to this list and would like to know if there was a passenger train from New York City to northern New York State (US-Canada border) in c1849. I have a ship's passenger list which has some relatives arriving in NYC in January, 1849 and I wonder if it would have been possible for them to make their way to the Ottawa Valley area of Ontario, Canada at that time. Any help in this regard will be very much appreciated. Thanks for your time. Alice Cochrane

I have a photo of a young lady, labelled Mrs. Henry Moody Christina Deerstein of Hudson NY she was the wife of my great great uncle Henry Wallace Moody, b. 2 Oct 1841 Bacon Hill, Saratoga County, NY d. 4 Aug 1863 Lincoln Hospital, Wash DC (Civil War soldier) Henry is buried with his parents and siblings in Bacon Hill Cemetery. I have info on Henry's Civil War service, but no photo of him. I have no further information on Christina Deerstein Moody, but am willing to send this photo to any descendant of this couple upon receipt of their lineage from them....we're cousins! I'd be happy to exchange my Moody lineage with cousins, and I always enjoy meeting new cousins in person. Marty Irons Goshen, NY k2mi@frontiernet.net All e-mail scanned by Norton 2005 anti-virus, updated online daily. May all your ancestors YELL at you, telling you how and where to find them. PS: great great grandfather John F IRONS.... b. 1811 "somewhere"....possibly Otsego County NY or ....possibly Rhode Island m. 1834 Hartwick, Otsego, NY d. 1854 Cazenovia, Madison, NY.... please stand up on that brick wall and yell out the names I've sought since 1993....LOUDER! Who were your parents? Were they from RI? Where were you born? Was it Otsego County NY? RI? Did you have a brother named Orlando? Who were your other siblings?

I am seeking information about the parents of Lydia Almira Cole. She may have been the daughter of Timothy Tyler Cole and Hannah Stuart. She married Hiram Plynn Carner. Thanks for any help in this. Linda Wagner

In a message dated 11/24/2006 5:01:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, quillpen1@optonline.net writes: www.ask.com looks like a very interesting site. I put an icon on my desktop so I can refer to it. Thanks, Maureen For others using search engines for researching family history and times you might like to see this note from the Binghamton Township Historical Soc. Newsletter Vol.3 #4 The best application is to choose a search engine which INCLUDES a few others as noted in this list. www.google.com www.aol.com www.msn.com www.yahoo.com www.ask.com (Formerly was "AskJeeves") www.altavista.com (good for searching people, ancestors etc for a fee.) www.alltheweb.com (Will search in other languages) www.hotbot.com (searches ask and msn) www.dogpile.com or www.webcrawler.com (Both search Google, Yahoo, msn, and Ask) There are many other search engines, but these seem to be the most popular

You must be kidding <BBG>. Evacuation Day celebrates the day the Brits left Boston, on March 13, 1776. Go to http://www-tech.mit.edu/V118/N14/ring.14c.html for the correct story. Carl Hommel (I got it right this time.) -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Soyamaven@aol.com > > Now almost forgotten, Evacuation Day was celebrated as a holiday long before > the Fourth of July: > > On November 25, 1783, the British Army boarded their naval vessels and > evacuated New York City (then only coterminous with New York County), their > wartime > headquarters and their last military position in the United States during the > Revolutionary War. > > As the British sailed away south in retreat through the Narrows separating > Staten Island on the west and Long Island on the east, the last thing they saw, > as their ships sunk below the horizon, was the Flag of the United States of > America flying atop the Liberty Pole (an extended flag pole) in the frontyard of > the Dutch Reformed Church in the Hamlet of New Utrecht, Town of New Utrecht, > in the south-central part of Kings County. Today this location is at > Christopher Columbus Boulevard (18th Avenue) and Liberty Pole Boulevard (84th > Street) > in the Bensonhurst neighborhood in the south-central part of the New York City > Borough of Brooklyn. (The NYC Borough of Brooklyn is coterminous with the NYS > Kings County). > > Replaced six times over the years, the 106' Liberty Pole is the last > remaining Liberty Pole in the original thirteen United States. On top of the > Pole is > the original eagle and weathervane. The eagle is made of wood and has a 5' > wingspan. After two hundred and twenty-two years, the weather has weakened it > considerably and it has been reinforced with iron bands. > > The eagle has looked over the bay and seen many sailing vessels, steamships > and war ships. It has been said that the eyes of this golden eagle has looked > upon more change in the world’s history than occurred from the days of > Nebuchadnezzar to the day when the eagle was raised. > > Here's the URL for the New Utrecht Liberty Pole Association: > http://www.historicnewutrecht.org/LPA.html > > Here's the URL for the Dutch Reformed Church: > http://www.newutrechtchurch.org/ > > > I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. > > Regards, > > Walter Greenspan > Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GEN-NYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You must be kidding <BBG>. Evacuation Day celebrates the day the Brits left Boston, on March 13, -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Soyamaven@aol.com > > Now almost forgotten, Evacuation Day was celebrated as a holiday long before > the Fourth of July: > > On November 25, 1783, the British Army boarded their naval vessels and > evacuated New York City (then only coterminous with New York County), their > wartime > headquarters and their last military position in the United States during the > Revolutionary War. > > As the British sailed away south in retreat through the Narrows separating > Staten Island on the west and Long Island on the east, the last thing they saw, > as their ships sunk below the horizon, was the Flag of the United States of > America flying atop the Liberty Pole (an extended flag pole) in the frontyard of > the Dutch Reformed Church in the Hamlet of New Utrecht, Town of New Utrecht, > in the south-central part of Kings County. Today this location is at > Christopher Columbus Boulevard (18th Avenue) and Liberty Pole Boulevard (84th > Street) > in the Bensonhurst neighborhood in the south-central part of the New York City > Borough of Brooklyn. (The NYC Borough of Brooklyn is coterminous with the NYS > Kings County). > > Replaced six times over the years, the 106' Liberty Pole is the last > remaining Liberty Pole in the original thirteen United States. On top of the > Pole is > the original eagle and weathervane. The eagle is made of wood and has a 5' > wingspan. After two hundred and twenty-two years, the weather has weakened it > considerably and it has been reinforced with iron bands. > > The eagle has looked over the bay and seen many sailing vessels, steamships > and war ships. It has been said that the eyes of this golden eagle has looked > upon more change in the world’s history than occurred from the days of > Nebuchadnezzar to the day when the eagle was raised. > > Here's the URL for the New Utrecht Liberty Pole Association: > http://www.historicnewutrecht.org/LPA.html > > Here's the URL for the Dutch Reformed Church: > http://www.newutrechtchurch.org/ > > > I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. > > Regards, > > Walter Greenspan > Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GEN-NYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You must be kidding <BBG>. Evacuation Day celebrates the day the Brits left Boston, on March 13, 1776. Go to http://www-tech.mit.edu/V118/N14/ring.14c.html for the correct story. Carl Hommel (Upstate NY bred, but fortunately removed to Massachusetts. I even yell for the Red Sox!) -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Soyamaven@aol.com > > Now almost forgotten, Evacuation Day was celebrated as a holiday long before > the Fourth of July: > > On November 25, 1783, the British Army boarded their naval vessels and > evacuated New York City (then only coterminous with New York County), their > wartime > headquarters and their last military position in the United States during the > Revolutionary War. > > As the British sailed away south in retreat through the Narrows separating > Staten Island on the west and Long Island on the east, the last thing they saw, > as their ships sunk below the horizon, was the Flag of the United States of > America flying atop the Liberty Pole (an extended flag pole) in the frontyard of > the Dutch Reformed Church in the Hamlet of New Utrecht, Town of New Utrecht, > in the south-central part of Kings County. Today this location is at > Christopher Columbus Boulevard (18th Avenue) and Liberty Pole Boulevard (84th > Street) > in the Bensonhurst neighborhood in the south-central part of the New York City > Borough of Brooklyn. (The NYC Borough of Brooklyn is coterminous with the NYS > Kings County). > > Replaced six times over the years, the 106' Liberty Pole is the last > remaining Liberty Pole in the original thirteen United States. On top of the > Pole is > the original eagle and weathervane. The eagle is made of wood and has a 5' > wingspan. After two hundred and twenty-two years, the weather has weakened it > considerably and it has been reinforced with iron bands. > > The eagle has looked over the bay and seen many sailing vessels, steamships > and war ships. It has been said that the eyes of this golden eagle has looked > upon more change in the world’s history than occurred from the days of > Nebuchadnezzar to the day when the eagle was raised. > > Here's the URL for the New Utrecht Liberty Pole Association: > http://www.historicnewutrecht.org/LPA.html > > Here's the URL for the Dutch Reformed Church: > http://www.newutrechtchurch.org/ > > > I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. > > Regards, > > Walter Greenspan > Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GEN-NYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

www.ask.com looks like a very interesting site. I put an icon on my desktop so I can refer to it. Thanks, Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: <Eltiemblo@aol.com> To: <gen-nys@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [GEN-NYS] Tomorrow is the 223rd Anniversary of Evacuation Day > In a message dated 11/24/2006 3:15:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, > Rdpiet@aol.com writes: > Then there is also the word Contiguous....what did I miss ?? > > > Definitions of 'contiguous' (kən-tĭgyū-əs) - 3 definitions - The American > Heritage® Dictionary > > contiguous(adj.)Sharing an edge or boundary; touching. > contiguous(adj.)Neighboring; adjacent. > contiguous(adj.)Connecting without a break: the 48 contiguous states. > > > While both expressions are similar, maybe even synonymous in some cases, > I > take it that conterminous (or coterminous) might mean more that they share > the > same border (on the same side of the border) as to contiguous where they > may > share a neighboring border , like being on the otherside of the border > from > each other. > > I've been a word lover since childhood and don't find many new words at my > age (79) but this was a first to me! I get on www.ask.com and hit the > selection > "dictionary" to check on these things! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GEN-NYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 11/24/2006 3:15:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, Rdpiet@aol.com writes: Then there is also the word Contiguous....what did I miss ?? Definitions of 'contiguous' (kən-tĭgyū-əs) - 3 definitions - The American Heritage® Dictionary contiguous(adj.)Sharing an edge or boundary; touching. contiguous(adj.)Neighboring; adjacent. contiguous(adj.)Connecting without a break: the 48 contiguous states. While both expressions are similar, maybe even synonymous in some cases, I take it that conterminous (or coterminous) might mean more that they share the same border (on the same side of the border) as to contiguous where they may share a neighboring border , like being on the otherside of the border from each other. I've been a word lover since childhood and don't find many new words at my age (79) but this was a first to me! I get on www.ask.com and hit the selection "dictionary" to check on these things!

Then there is also the word Contiguous....what did I miss ?? For any others unfamiliar with this word or term, to save you looking it up! coterminous: having the same border or covering the same area. (This is also conterminous, from the Latin.) -------------------------------

For any others unfamiliar with this word or term, to save you looking it up! coterminous: having the same border or covering the same area. (This is also conterminous, from the Latin.)

Evacuation Day in Boston. In 1776 early in the American Revolution British forces evacuated Boston, Massachusetts

1776 was when the REV War STARTED!! I went to the URL you provided and it appears to me that the Evacuation Day you're talking about is local to Boston......or are you joking with us?? How far Upstate in NY?? I grew up in Dutchess County. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: <chommel6@comcast.net> To: <gen-nys@rootsweb.com>; <GEN-NYS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [GEN-NYS] Tomorrow is the 223rd Anniversary of Evacuation Day > You must be kidding <BBG>. Evacuation Day celebrates the day the Brits > left > Boston, on March 13, 1776. Go to > http://www-tech.mit.edu/V118/N14/ring.14c.html for the correct story. > > Carl Hommel (Upstate NY bred, but fortunately removed to Massachusetts. I > even yell for the Red Sox!) > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: Soyamaven@aol.com >> >> Now almost forgotten, Evacuation Day was celebrated as a holiday long >> before >> the Fourth of July: >> >> On November 25, 1783, the British Army boarded their naval vessels and >> evacuated New York City (then only coterminous with New York County), >> their >> wartime >> headquarters and their last military position in the United States during >> the >> Revolutionary War. >> >> As the British sailed away south in retreat through the Narrows >> separating >> Staten Island on the west and Long Island on the east, the last thing >> they > saw, >> as their ships sunk below the horizon, was the Flag of the United States >> of >> America flying atop the Liberty Pole (an extended flag pole) in the >> frontyard > of >> the Dutch Reformed Church in the Hamlet of New Utrecht, Town of New >> Utrecht, >> in the south-central part of Kings County. Today this location is at >> Christopher Columbus Boulevard (18th Avenue) and Liberty Pole Boulevard >> (84th >> Street) >> in the Bensonhurst neighborhood in the south-central part of the New York >> City >> Borough of Brooklyn. (The NYC Borough of Brooklyn is coterminous with the >> NYS >> Kings County). >> >> Replaced six times over the years, the 106' Liberty Pole is the last >> remaining Liberty Pole in the original thirteen United States. On top of >> the >> Pole is >> the original eagle and weathervane. The eagle is made of wood and has a >> 5' >> wingspan. After two hundred and twenty-two years, the weather has >> weakened it >> considerably and it has been reinforced with iron bands. >> >> The eagle has looked over the bay and seen many sailing vessels, >> steamships >> and war ships. It has been said that the eyes of this golden eagle has >> looked >> upon more change in the worldâ?Ts history than occurred from the days of >> Nebuchadnezzar to the day when the eagle was raised. >> >> Here's the URL for the New Utrecht Liberty Pole Association: >> http://www.historicnewutrecht.org/LPA.html >> >> Here's the URL for the Dutch Reformed Church: >> http://www.newutrechtchurch.org/ >> >> >> I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. >> >> Regards, >> >> Walter Greenspan >> Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GEN-NYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GEN-NYS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Now almost forgotten, Evacuation Day was celebrated as a holiday long before the Fourth of July: On November 25, 1783, the British Army boarded their naval vessels and evacuated New York City (then only coterminous with New York County), their wartime headquarters and their last military position in the United States during the Revolutionary War. As the British sailed away south in retreat through the Narrows separating Staten Island on the west and Long Island on the east, the last thing they saw, as their ships sunk below the horizon, was the Flag of the United States of America flying atop the Liberty Pole (an extended flag pole) in the frontyard of the Dutch Reformed Church in the Hamlet of New Utrecht, Town of New Utrecht, in the south-central part of Kings County. Today this location is at Christopher Columbus Boulevard (18th Avenue) and Liberty Pole Boulevard (84th Street) in the Bensonhurst neighborhood in the south-central part of the New York City Borough of Brooklyn. (The NYC Borough of Brooklyn is coterminous with the NYS Kings County). Replaced six times over the years, the 106' Liberty Pole is the last remaining Liberty Pole in the original thirteen United States. On top of the Pole is the original eagle and weathervane. The eagle is made of wood and has a 5' wingspan. After two hundred and twenty-two years, the weather has weakened it considerably and it has been reinforced with iron bands. The eagle has looked over the bay and seen many sailing vessels, steamships and war ships. It has been said that the eyes of this golden eagle has looked upon more change in the world’s history than occurred from the days of Nebuchadnezzar to the day when the eagle was raised. Here's the URL for the New Utrecht Liberty Pole Association: http://www.historicnewutrecht.org/LPA.html Here's the URL for the Dutch Reformed Church: http://www.newutrechtchurch.org/ I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY

Hi I have come across a tomb inscription of Maud SPURR 1878 - 1927. This is in the Old Single Graves section of Mt Hope cemetery in Rochester NY. The stone is in row 37. I would greatly appreciate it if someone with a digital camera would take a shot of this stone. Kind Regards Peter and Patricia Scarborough UK