Looking for the location of per beers, or, another name of this location. It's listed as a place of birth and marriage for some of my ancestors. Thanks, Pat Van Wormer van@wctc.net

Hi, I recently obtained a small wooden box, approximately 2" wide x 4" long x 2" deep. It was sent by the F.A. Hardy company, Madison Square Branch, New York, to my great-grandmother. I have researched this company on the internet and have not been able to locate any information about it. Does anyone recognize this company and have any idea what they might have sent in it? Thanks, Jill Peryer jperyer@mail.orion.org

Page 334 of "Historical and Statistical Gazeteer of New York State; A.P. Smith, publishers, 8 S. Salina St. Syracuse; 1860" locates Red Falls in Greene County and contains the following: "Red Falls, (p.v.) on Batavia Kil, contains a cotton factory, a paper mill, and several other manufacturing establishments. Pop. 231. Settlements were made on the flats at Prattsville by Dutch immigrants from Schoharie co., during the period between the close of the Old French War in 1763 and the breaking out of the Revolution in 1776.(footnote #5 here) During the latter war the settlement was attacked by a body of Indians and tories led by a British officer. The inhabitants rallied, and a battle took place upon the bank of Schoharie Kil, a little below the Windham Turnpike, north of the village, in which the Indians and their allies were routed. Rev. Cornelius D. Schermerhorn was the first settled preacher. There are 3 churches in town; Ref. Prot. D., Prot. E., and M.E. "footnote #5: Among the first settlers were John Laraway and his sons, John, Jonas, Derick, and Martinus, Isaac Van Alstyne, _______ Vrooman, John and Peter Van Loan, John Becker, and a family by the name of Schoonmaker. The first school was taught by Mr. Banks, in 1790. Martinus Laraway kept the first inn, soon after the Revolution, and, with his brother John, erected the first gristmill." Another footnote on the page remarks that the Indian name for Batavia Kil was Chough-tig-hig-nick. Kenneth Wooster Cortland, NY

Hi Listers Do you have information about John A. Clark(e) from Blenheim, or N. Blenheim Schoharie, NY around 182o's. Need Parents and siblings. Thank you Sharon

I would like to add my Lyons to the mix and would appreciate any connections.... My 2nd Great Grandparents were Albert Francis Ransom and Catherine P. Lyons d/o John W. Lyons. They married Dec.20,1854 and lived in Buffalo,NY..... Looks to me like they very well could be related to Patrick Lyons...possibly John and Patrick were brothers??? From: <Mpmorrisse@aol.com> To: <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 19, 1999 1:07 PM Subject: LYONS FROM COUNTY COrk<Buffalo, NY > HI > > I just recent found out more information on my ggg-grandparents: Patrick > LYONS and Elizabeth (Courtney) LYONS. Patrick and Elizabeth were from County > Cork Ireland. Where about in County Cork is unknown at this time. > Patrick and Elizabeth emigrated to Buffalo, NY around 1848. > > They had five children their names were: > Mary b. 1836 Spouse: Patrick Morrissey > Timothy b. 1839 spouse: Margaret Scalon > Edward b. 1842 spouse: Mary ARmbruster > Margaret b. 1844 spouse: John McClure > Jeremiah b. 1847 spouse: Elizabeth Donovan > > I am looking for any descendants of Timothy Lyons and his wife Margaret > Scalon and Jeremiah Lyons and his wife Elizabeth Donovan > > Michael P. Morrissey > > > > ______________________________

New Volumes ADDED!!! (after several months!) New York: Broome County vol D, I, N, O, 1-25 (don't ask me why they skipped letters in between!) Ulster County vol. K through O Maryland (very new one) Frederick vol 1-2 Sorry - they are in text files because I am not done with those counties. Once those counties are done - they will be converted to search engine. (It is a lot of work re-doing html formats for search engines). http://www.wasatch.com/~dsam/sampubco Ta! Da! W. David Samuelsen

Has anyone heard of a photography house in Brooklyn, called H.G. Ruescher? I have a picture of a great aunt that had her pic taken there around 1900 in her nurse's uniform. It was located at 362 Fulton St. Brooklyn, NY. Any leads would be helpful. Thanks! Dianne

Hi Folks, Does anyone know the name of the first West India Company's ship sent to the New World or maybe more specifically to New York? Of the two sources that I have, one refers to it as the "Unity" sailing in 1623. The other has it the "New Netherlands" sailing in the same year. Also, was Albany originally refereed to as Port Orange or Fort Orange? Thanks- George R French French=20

Red Falls is an unincorporated community in the northwestern corner of Greene County. This is on the northern edge of the Catskills. It lies on Batavia Kill about three miles upstream of Prattsville and about half a dozen miles upstream of Gilboa Reservoir. The reservoir lies at the juncture of Greene, Delaware, and Schoharie Counties. Your best source for information on the area might well be the Greene County Historical Society in Saugerties. They have extensive collections and some times can do look ups for out-of-towners. Unfortunately I don't have their address or phone number immediately handy, but I'm sure the Greene County Gen Web site gives it. Best regards, Kelvin Kean Elverson, Pennsylvania

Date forwarded: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:12:14 -0700 (PDT) From: "George R. French" <grfrench@gte.net> > Does anyone know the name of the first West India Company's ship sent to > the New World or maybe more specifically to New York? Of the two sources > that I have, one refers to it as the "Unity" sailing in 1623. The other > has it the "New Netherlands" sailing in the same year. Also, was Albany > originally refereed to as Port Orange or Fort Orange? Thanks- George R > French French=20 George, The first ship of settlers to come to New Netherland was the "Eendracht" (Unity). It sailed from Amsterdam on 25 January 1624. There is no known passenger list but from other records it is known that Joris Rapalje and his bride, Catalyntje Trico were on board. The only other names known are Sebastian Jansen Krol - the "comforter of the sick" and John Monfort and his wife Jacqueline Moreau. The "Eendracht" carried the advance party of settlers -- mostly Walloons. A larger group of settlers set out on the ship "Nieu Nederlandt" about 1 April 1624. The source for this is the January, April, and July 1972 issues of "The Halve Maen" wherein Georege Olin Zabriskie wrote his series of articles on "The Founding Families of New Netherland". You can view a map of Fort Orange in 1635 online at http://www.albany.edu/museum/wwwmuseum/tantillo/Orange.html For a very good explanation of New Netherland please visit New Netherland Project at http://www.nnp.org/index.shtml Some examples from their historical timeline: September 19, 1609. The East India Company ship Halve Maen, commanded by Henry Hudson, reaches the present-day Albany area. May 4, 1626. Peter Minuit arrives in New Netherland aboard the See Meeuw to become director. April 10, 1652. The formation of the village of Beverwijck, established as the Court of Fort Orange and Beverwijck, temporarily resolving the dispute between the Patroonship of Rensselaerswijck and the West India Company. August 9, 1673. The combined fleet of Cornelis Evertsz and Jacob Benckes captures New York and restore New Netherland during the Third Anglo-Dutch War. New York City is renamed New Orange; Kingston becomes Swanenburgh; Albany, Willemstad; Fort Albany, Fort Nassau. November 10, 1674. New Netherland officially returned to England as the province of New York, as a result of the Treaty of Westminster, ending the third Anglo-Dutch war. You can also visit The Colonial Albany Project at http://www.nysm.nysed.gov/albany/ and the Albany Institute of History and Art at http://www.albanyinstitute.org/ the New York Genealogical and Biographical Society online: http://www.nygbs.org/ and last, but not least, the New Netherland Museum -- with its rich history of the times which began with Henry Hudson's voyage on de Halve Maen (The Half Moon): http://www.newnetherland.org/ Lorine McGinnis Schulze lschulze@bconnex.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ * The Olive Tree Genealogy http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ * The Canadian Military Heritage Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~canmil/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Thank you for such a well written and easy to understand explanation of Soundex system. It is very helpful. Patti W-I NColeman wrote: > > Dear Marilyn: > The Soundex system was designed to help find names that > "sound" similar and might be spelled incorrectly or > phonetically. Here's a simplified, basic run-down: > > Surname example: THOMPSON > 1) You take the first letter of the surname - in this case > "T." > 2) You ignore all vowels and the letters H, W, and Y. > Scratch them out - you have MPSN remaining. > 3) Each remaining letter has a corresponding number code > associated with it. They are: > 1 - B,F,P,V > 2 - C,G,J,K,Q,S,X,Z > 3 - D,T > 4 - L > 5 - M,N > 6 - R > 4) You take the "T" and add to it the next three > remaining/corresponding numbers - in this case T512. This > is the Soundex code for "Thompson." > > So, you always should end up with one alpha and three > numeric characters for the Soundex code. You ignore any > remaining letters after that. > > CAUTION: Even this system has it's pitfalls. For instance, > what if someone misspelled the name, ie. Thomson? Your > Soundex code would then be T525 not T512. So, sometimes you > have to misspell the name yourself in order to make sure > you've captured each Soundex code that may apply. > SECOND variable: If you have a name like VanBrunt or > DiAngelo, make sure you calculate the name both with and > without the prefix. > THIRD variable: If you have two letters side-by-side that > have the same numeric code, treat them as one. For example: > Williams = W452, not W445. Jackson = J250, not J222. If > you have two letters of the same code, separated by a vowel, > you treat them as separate numbers: Coleman = C455. > FOURTH variable: If the double "sound" appears right at the > beginning of the name, it is follows the same rule as #3 > above. For example: Schmidt = S530. But, there are > instances where you may want to check under S253 (or > whatever the double is for the name) just in case it was > miscoded. I haven't run into too many examples of this but > it does happen once in awhile. > > Tip #1: Once you've found your Soundex code in the > particular index reel you are working on, the next form of > alphabetizing that happens is with the given name. So, in > the case of Thompson, you find the beginning of the T512 > names on the reel. You will then notice that, no matter > what the surname is, all the Annas, Abrahams, etc. are > together. If you are looking for a John Thompson, you speed > ahead to the "Js" and look for where the Johns begin. Then, > and only then, you go back to looking for the actual > surname. > Tip #2: Many times there is a further subdivision which > helps you get (within your Soundex code) to the correct > section where your person may be found. This division can > take two forms. Within a particular state it can be a > division by county. A second division may be by place of > birth. In both instances, within your Soundex code you > spool ahead to the particular county your person may have > been enumerated in or where your person may have been born. > THEN you look for your John or Anna, then you look for the > surname. Not every index using the Soundex system has these > further subdivisions. And, I've usually only seen them used > consistently when you have a tremendously common name like > Smith, Murphy, Brown, etc. An unusual name with an uncommon > Soundex code combination will usually NOT have these, even > if the rest of the reel does. > > Hope this helps. Best regards. Nancy. > > NColeman > NYC/Long Island Family History Research Services > http://www.genealogyPro.com/ncoleman.html > http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/o/l/Nancy--Coleman/ > ncroots@worldnet.att.net > NYGenExchange: www.genexchange.com/NY/index.cfm > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marilyn Reynolds <reynolds@3-cities.com> > To: GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 8:46 AM > Subject: NY 1900 census > > >Hello, I wrote to a historical soc that has all censuses > for all states. I > >was told that most 1870 censuses in NY are not indexed. I > also requested > >indexes from the 1900 NY census and was told that this > census is indexed > >only by the Soundex system, on microfilm, that there isn't > a published index > >for most states for 1900. Does anyone know anywhere, if > any, I can access > >the index for 1900 and how indexing by soundex works. > Thank you very much. > >Marilyn reynolds@3-cities.com > > > > > > > >==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > >Have you forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > >Visit the GEN-NYS-L Frequently Asked Questions (And > Answers!) web page: > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/GEN-NYS-L/FAQ/GEN-NYS-L.txt > > > > > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > Have you considered joining the Rootsweb Genealogical Data > Cooperative? > http://www.rootsweb.com/

Hi Everyone, Sorry for a question which I consider somewhat dumb, but I've struck out everyone. Can someone tell me what County Red Falls is in within NY? Also, does anyone have any information on this town. Supposedly, my ggrandfather, William Edward Flynn, was born there in about 1863. Thanks in advance for you kind help, -John

Dear Marilyn: The Soundex system was designed to help find names that "sound" similar and might be spelled incorrectly or phonetically. Here's a simplified, basic run-down: Surname example: THOMPSON 1) You take the first letter of the surname - in this case "T." 2) You ignore all vowels and the letters H, W, and Y. Scratch them out - you have MPSN remaining. 3) Each remaining letter has a corresponding number code associated with it. They are: 1 - B,F,P,V 2 - C,G,J,K,Q,S,X,Z 3 - D,T 4 - L 5 - M,N 6 - R 4) You take the "T" and add to it the next three remaining/corresponding numbers - in this case T512. This is the Soundex code for "Thompson." So, you always should end up with one alpha and three numeric characters for the Soundex code. You ignore any remaining letters after that. CAUTION: Even this system has it's pitfalls. For instance, what if someone misspelled the name, ie. Thomson? Your Soundex code would then be T525 not T512. So, sometimes you have to misspell the name yourself in order to make sure you've captured each Soundex code that may apply. SECOND variable: If you have a name like VanBrunt or DiAngelo, make sure you calculate the name both with and without the prefix. THIRD variable: If you have two letters side-by-side that have the same numeric code, treat them as one. For example: Williams = W452, not W445. Jackson = J250, not J222. If you have two letters of the same code, separated by a vowel, you treat them as separate numbers: Coleman = C455. FOURTH variable: If the double "sound" appears right at the beginning of the name, it is follows the same rule as #3 above. For example: Schmidt = S530. But, there are instances where you may want to check under S253 (or whatever the double is for the name) just in case it was miscoded. I haven't run into too many examples of this but it does happen once in awhile. Tip #1: Once you've found your Soundex code in the particular index reel you are working on, the next form of alphabetizing that happens is with the given name. So, in the case of Thompson, you find the beginning of the T512 names on the reel. You will then notice that, no matter what the surname is, all the Annas, Abrahams, etc. are together. If you are looking for a John Thompson, you speed ahead to the "Js" and look for where the Johns begin. Then, and only then, you go back to looking for the actual surname. Tip #2: Many times there is a further subdivision which helps you get (within your Soundex code) to the correct section where your person may be found. This division can take two forms. Within a particular state it can be a division by county. A second division may be by place of birth. In both instances, within your Soundex code you spool ahead to the particular county your person may have been enumerated in or where your person may have been born. THEN you look for your John or Anna, then you look for the surname. Not every index using the Soundex system has these further subdivisions. And, I've usually only seen them used consistently when you have a tremendously common name like Smith, Murphy, Brown, etc. An unusual name with an uncommon Soundex code combination will usually NOT have these, even if the rest of the reel does. Hope this helps. Best regards. Nancy. NColeman NYC/Long Island Family History Research Services http://www.genealogyPro.com/ncoleman.html http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/o/l/Nancy--Coleman/ ncroots@worldnet.att.net NYGenExchange: www.genexchange.com/NY/index.cfm -----Original Message----- From: Marilyn Reynolds <reynolds@3-cities.com> To: GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 8:46 AM Subject: NY 1900 census >Hello, I wrote to a historical soc that has all censuses for all states. I >was told that most 1870 censuses in NY are not indexed. I also requested >indexes from the 1900 NY census and was told that this census is indexed >only by the Soundex system, on microfilm, that there isn't a published index >for most states for 1900. Does anyone know anywhere, if any, I can access >the index for 1900 and how indexing by soundex works. Thank you very much. >Marilyn reynolds@3-cities.com > > > >==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== >Have you forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? >Visit the GEN-NYS-L Frequently Asked Questions (And Answers!) web page: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/GEN-NYS-L/FAQ/GEN-NYS-L.txt > >

Hi listers, Has anyone else noticed their messages posted on GenForum since April do not show up on the search engine? I've tried to e-mail them but get no reply. If you haven't checked on it, you might want to. Marla blarson@ubtanet.com

Seeking residence in NY of families with the surnames MANN, STONE, STRATTON, and VAN BLARICUM. All of the above moved to Hamilton Co, OH around 1820. Approximately 7 children of John MANN and Persia STRATTON born in NY from 1897 to 1815. Trying to locate where in NY. Oldest child married in NY 1820 to a STONE. Closely allied with VAN BLARICUM family also from NY. Any regional suggestions on areas to search greatly appreciated. Diana Goldenberg

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. Hi, I need someone to do some look up work for me in Ogdensburg, New York. Does anyone have the census for Ogdensburg ( St Lawrence Co) from 1840 thro 1870. Jerry