Thanks everyone for all the information regarding Colesville. Since I don't live in the area (I live in Canada) I always like to look at maps to see where my familes lived. Inge Kellier Edmonton, AB

To MMuareen and listers This SMITH family were lawyers and judges, one doctor. There is a PEARTREE-SMITH marriages in the family. That is why i am posting this to the list. Iremember someone looking for this marriage last month. There is no mention of this family being related to the SMITH BROS Ccough drops family Via con Dios Ruth in AZ

I found this, quite by error, looking for a map of NY state that just listed counties! I got a bonus! There is a master roster from 1835-1846 and a description of the soldiers that were there in this time period. Hope someone has luck with this too! http://army.barracks.buffalonet.org/map.htm

> Subject: Am I insane or what? > Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 18:03:18 -0600 > From: "W. David Samuelsen" <dsam@wasatch.com> > To: GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com > > Check out the latest news at SAMPUBCO > > http://www.wasatch.com/~dsam/sampubco/news.htm > > Will Testators Indexes Online > > W. David Samuelsen What about the index itself? Is there a web site for it? Jackie Ziff Dallas, TX

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------991748217019C53533C05230 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I noticed in the address the _ did come through. It should be: ~langford/gen_page.htm Pat --------------991748217019C53533C05230 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by deliver2.usit.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA09108 for <pbaird@usit.net>; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 15:37:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA10285; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 12:24:18 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 12:24:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37B1D041.E94E987@usit.net> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 15:34:25 -0400 From: Patricia Baird <pbaird@usit.net> Reply-To: pbaird@usit.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Ships & Passenger Lists Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <FlIlXB.A.ZfC.h3cs3@bl-14.rootsweb.com> To: GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/21281 X-Loop: GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: GEN-NYS-L-request@rootsweb.com X-GEN-NYS-L-Web-Page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/GEN-NYS-L/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Everyone, Here is a website that has ships and passenger lists plus links to other websites. The name of the website is AMERICAN PLANTATIONS and COLONIES. Address: http://www.primenet.com/~langford/gen_page.htm This website was given on another mailing list that I subscribe to. Pat Baird ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== Have you seen the USGenWeb New York Page? http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb/ --------------991748217019C53533C05230--

In need of a website that has a 1895 Atlas of all towns, cities, county, and states maps. Sempronius is found in Cayuga County, NY. http://www.LivGenMI.com Pat Baird

Hi Everyone, Here is a website that has ships and passenger lists plus links to other websites. The name of the website is AMERICAN PLANTATIONS and COLONIES. Address: http://www.primenet.com/~langford/gen_page.htm This website was given on another mailing list that I subscribe to. Pat Baird

Wow! What a coincidence! The message I opened just before I opened yours gave me the following site http://www.mit.edu/geo?location=sempronius%2C+ny where I looked up & found your town. Small world. Good people. That site is gonna make my life a lot easier! Happy Hunting Linda > -----Original Message----- > From: jrfranklin [mailto:jrfranklin@earthlink.net] > Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 1:41 PM > To: GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Sempronius, NY > > > Back in the 1800s, I had relatives in Sempronius, NY. Can > someone tell me where it is or was? It is not in either atlas I > have. Audrey > > > > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > Have you considered joining the Rootsweb Genealogical Data > Cooperative? > > >

Back in the 1800s, I had relatives in Sempronius, NY. Can someone tell me where it is or was? It is not in either atlas I have. Audrey

John Lovelace/Loveless was born 06 March 1804 and: 01 August 1891 Burial: Westtown Presbyterian Church Cemetery married Sarah Drake b: 10 May 1805 in Draketown?, NY m: 02 November 1829 in Sullivan County, New York d: 02 May 1862 Burial: Westtown Presbyterian Church Cemetery Father: Zephaniah Drake Mother: Rebecca Shons [Warren/Wardner/Warner is listed in books on the Drake family but is not in George's bible] ...... 2 Warren Lovelace b: Abt. 1832 ...... 2 Alfred Burns Lovelace aka: Alfred B Loveless Age at death: 66 b: 25 December 1835 in Sullivan Co?, New York d: 22 February 1902 ...... 2 Henry H D Lovelace Age at death: 13 est. b: 15 April 1837 in Sullivan Co?, New York d: Bef. 1850 in not listed on census ...... 2 Emily Jane Lovelace aka: Emily Loveless Age at death: 72 b: 22 November 1838 in Sullivan Co?, New York d: 24 August 1911 in Ida Grove IA Burial: Ida Grove Cemetery .......... +Charles De Kay Age at death: 74 b: 20 September 1820 in White Lake Sullivan Co NY m: 18 May 1862 in Forrestburg New York d: 21 February 1895 in Ida Grove Ida Grove IA Father: Charles De Kay Mother: Martha Jane "Patty" Knapp ...... 2 George B Lovelace aka: George B Loveless Age at death: 80 b: 01 March 1840 in Sullivan Co?, New York d: 29 January 1921 in Landis, Vineland, Cumberland Co, New Jersey Burial: Fairmount Cemetery Newark NJ .......... +Mary K Newton Age at death: 25 b: 20 December 1843 m: 26 September 1866 in Newark, Essex County, New Jersey d: 10 March 1869 in Newark, Essex County, New Jersey Burial: 03 October 1869 Fairmount Cemetery Newark NJ Father: Unknown Newton ...... *2nd Wife of George B Lovelace: .......... +Elizabeth Riker Age at death: 70 b: 19 January 1852 in New Jersey? m: 14 August 1872 in Newark Essex New Jersey d: 28 May 1922 in Clovis, California Father: George W Riker Mother: Elizabeth Godby ...... 2 Hannah C Lovelace aka: Hannah Loveless b: 24 September 1841 in Sullivan Co?, New York d: unknown .......... +William Hull ...... 2 Ira D Lovelace Age at death: 7 est. b: 06 January 1843 in Sullivan Co?, New York d: Bef. 1850 in not listed on census ...... 2 John L Lovelace Age at death: 6 est. b: 25 March 1844 in Sullivan Co?, New York d: Bef. 1850 in not listed on census ...... 2 Sarah A Lovelace aka: Sarah A Loveless Age at death: 67 b: 12 June 1845 in Sullivan Co?, New York d: 13 September 1912 .......... +James Lybolt b: 1840 Father: William Lybolt ...... 2 Charles W Lovelace Age at death: 3 est. b: 13 February 1847 in Sullivan Co?, New York d: Bef. 1850 in not listed on census ...... 2 Mary A Lovelace aka: Mary Loveless Age at death: 83 b: 08 November 1848 in Sullivan Co?, New York d: 24 February 1932 in Glen Ridge, Essex Co, New Jersey Burial: 27 February 1932 Fairmount Cemetery Newark NJ ...... 2 Rebecca F Lovelace aka: Rebecca Loveless b: 06 January 1851 in Sullivan Co?, New York .......... +Ralph Steinard ...... 2 Harriett E Lovelace aka: Harriett Loveless b: 23 May 1853 in Sullivan Co?, New York .......... +Harry Barton Dont know the connection of William Hartwell to the family but he is listed in George's bible along with the siblings--- William W Hartwell Age at death: 65 b: 02 November 1829 in Sullivan Co New York? d: 02 November 1894

I am looking for the marriage of Robert MUNNS to Roxana ROUNDS on October 11, 1835 in New York (information obtained from Roxana's obituary). However, I'm really struggling because it appears that New York's vital records start about 1880 - and I don't know a location more specific than New York. Robert's death certificate also just states New York for a birth and marriage location. The couple left New York after their marriage for Michigan, so I'm not sure where to even start looking in census information. Can anyone give me some advice on where to start? Thank you! Roxanne

The descriptions of the content of the microfilms are available online in their microfilm catalog at 'http://www.nara.gov/genealogy', but for the ship and passenger names themselves you have to search the microfilm. "a.colthirst" <adcolthirst@sprint.ca> wrote: >This is great info. I have one question: Is this info. online at NARA's web >page or must one research in person? > >-----Original Message----- >From: NColeman <ncroots@worldnet.att.net> >To: GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 11:46 AM >Subject: Ship Passenger Lists available... > > >>I should have looked at my dates more carefully. Here's a >>breakdown of what passenger manifests exist for the Port of >>New York: >> >>Series M1066 - Registers of Vessels Arriving at the Port of >>New York from Foreign Ports - 1789 - 1919. This is a >>sometimes chronological, sometimes alphabetical series that >>is helpful if you know the name of the ship and the >>approximate year. From this series you can make a list of >>arrivals of that particular ship and then go on to examine >>the manifests, if they have survived. >> >>Series M261 - Index to Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving >>at New York 1820-1846. This is an alphabetical index, by >>passenger surname, for the period. >> >>Series M237 - Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New >>York 1820-1897. These are the actual ship lists, filmed in >>chronological (most of the time) order, by date of arrival. >> >>Series T519 - Index to Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving >>at New York June 16, 1897 - June 30, 1902. Alphabetical >>Index of passengers by surname. >> >>Series T621 - This is a SOUNDEX index to Passenger Lists of >>Vessels Arriving at New York July 1 1902 - December 31, >>1943. Arranged in Soundex Code order and then by FIRST name >>of passenger. There are three possible types of index cards >>to be found in this series. See below*. >> >>Series T715 - These are actual ship passenger lists arranged >>in VOLUME order (and subsequently by date, but not >>always...<g>) 1897 - 1920. These "volume" numbers appear on >>the index cards in series T621. >> >>*The three types of index cards that exist in series T-621 >>can be confusing at first. Two types have an actual ship >>name and (usually) a date, pretty straightforward. The >>third type doesn't have either. It may look like this (I'm >>going to use Nara's own example here): >> >>E 430 Elliot, Charles E. 26m 12 53 4660 >> >>That's about all you'll get. What this translates to is >>that after the Soundex Code and the name, you have a 26 year >>old male, on line 12, page 53, of volume 4660. You then >>take this information to the list that accompanies series >>T715 and look up volume 4660. You will find out that volume >>4660 translates to a 1913 arrival and the actual volume (and >>therefore the ship list) will appear within reels >>#1999-2246. There is a further breakdown of this system >>available at NARA. >> >>Hope this is helpful... Best regards. Nancy. >> >> >>NColeman >>NYC/Long Island Family History Research Services >>http://www.genealogyPro.com/ncoleman.html >>http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/o/l/Nancy--Coleman/ >>ncroots@worldnet.att.net >>NYGenExchange: www.genexchange.com/NY/index.cfm >> >> >> >>==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== >>Have you considered joining the Rootsweb Genealogical Data >>Cooperative? >> http://www.rootsweb.com/ >> > > >==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== >Have you forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? >Visit the GEN-NYS-L Frequently Asked Questions (And Answers!) web page: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/GEN-NYS-L/FAQ/GEN-NYS-L.txt

They take forever - 4 to 12 months. If you know the exact locality and date of the event you can usually get reasonably prompt service from the local City/Town/Village vital records clerk. However the local clerks can usually supply only a transcription from their registers, as the certificates themselves are kept at the NYS Dept of Health in Albany (who do supply a photocopy of the original). (Vital records for events within New York City are an entirely different matter.) Regards, Charles Sullivan KMcKellep@aol.com wrote: >Hello: > >I'm new to the NY list and have a quick question. I sent away to the State >of NY for a copy of a marriage license in April. I've noticed that they have >cashed my check, however, I have not received anything from them about the >inquiry. Can anyone advise if this is typical for the State of NY, shall I >be more patient, or will it do any good to write them again? Thanks.... > >Kathy McKellep-Lathrop >So. California > > >==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== >Have you considered joining the Rootsweb Genealogical Data >Cooperative? > http://www.rootsweb.com/

Well, it depends what you mean. The information about the film series is online at the NARA website. The actual passenger lists themselves and indexes are not. As I mentioned, all of these films can be obtained by 1) visiting NARA Northeast or DC 2) Going to your nearest LDS Family History Center or, 3) Order them, and have them delivered to your home, from the AGLL. Best regards. Nancy. NColeman NYC/Long Island Family History Research Services http://www.genealogyPro.com/ncoleman.html http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/o/l/Nancy--Coleman/ ncroots@worldnet.att.net NYGenExchange: www.genexchange.com/NY/index.cfm

This address was given to me by a lady who is researching the east coast of the USA and I believe it describes most ships coming into that area. If I am wrong with this info, I am sorry. Anyway with all the messages having to do with passenger ships, I thought it might help someone too. www.fortunecity.com/littleitaly/amalfi/13/shipgh.htm Hope it helps someone. Verna - vernamae@dnet.net

-----Original Message----- From: a.colthirst <adcolthirst@sprint.ca> To: GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 11:54 AM Subject: Re: Ship Passenger Lists available... >This is great info. I have one question: Is this info. online at NARA's web >page or must one research in person? > >-----Original Message----- >From: NColeman <ncroots@worldnet.att.net> >To: GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 11:46 AM >Subject: Ship Passenger Lists available... > > >>I should have looked at my dates more carefully. Here's a >>breakdown of what passenger manifests exist for the Port of >>New York: >> >>Series M1066 - Registers of Vessels Arriving at the Port of >>New York from Foreign Ports - 1789 - 1919. This is a >>sometimes chronological, sometimes alphabetical series that >>is helpful if you know the name of the ship and the >>approximate year. From this series you can make a list of >>arrivals of that particular ship and then go on to examine >>the manifests, if they have survived. >> >>Series M261 - Index to Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving >>at New York 1820-1846. This is an alphabetical index, by >>passenger surname, for the period. >> >>Series M237 - Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New >>York 1820-1897. These are the actual ship lists, filmed in >>chronological (most of the time) order, by date of arrival. >> >>Series T519 - Index to Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving >>at New York June 16, 1897 - June 30, 1902. Alphabetical >>Index of passengers by surname. >> >>Series T621 - This is a SOUNDEX index to Passenger Lists of >>Vessels Arriving at New York July 1 1902 - December 31, >>1943. Arranged in Soundex Code order and then by FIRST name >>of passenger. There are three possible types of index cards >>to be found in this series. See below*. >> >>Series T715 - These are actual ship passenger lists arranged >>in VOLUME order (and subsequently by date, but not >>always...<g>) 1897 - 1920. These "volume" numbers appear on >>the index cards in series T621. >> >>*The three types of index cards that exist in series T-621 >>can be confusing at first. Two types have an actual ship >>name and (usually) a date, pretty straightforward. The >>third type doesn't have either. It may look like this (I'm >>going to use Nara's own example here): >> >>E 430 Elliot, Charles E. 26m 12 53 4660 >> >>That's about all you'll get. What this translates to is >>that after the Soundex Code and the name, you have a 26 year >>old male, on line 12, page 53, of volume 4660. You then >>take this information to the list that accompanies series >>T715 and look up volume 4660. You will find out that volume >>4660 translates to a 1913 arrival and the actual volume (and >>therefore the ship list) will appear within reels >>#1999-2246. There is a further breakdown of this system >>available at NARA. >> >>Hope this is helpful... Best regards. Nancy. >> >> >>NColeman >>NYC/Long Island Family History Research Services >>http://www.genealogyPro.com/ncoleman.html >>http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/o/l/Nancy--Coleman/ >>ncroots@worldnet.att.net >>NYGenExchange: www.genexchange.com/NY/index.cfm >> >> >> >>==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== >>Have you considered joining the Rootsweb Genealogical Data >>Cooperative? >> http://www.rootsweb.com/ >> > > >==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== >Have you forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? >Visit the GEN-NYS-L Frequently Asked Questions (And Answers!) web page: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/GEN-NYS-L/FAQ/GEN-NYS-L.txt >

This is great info. I have one question: Is this info. online at NARA's web page or must one research in person? -----Original Message----- From: NColeman <ncroots@worldnet.att.net> To: GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 11:46 AM Subject: Ship Passenger Lists available... >I should have looked at my dates more carefully. Here's a >breakdown of what passenger manifests exist for the Port of >New York: > >Series M1066 - Registers of Vessels Arriving at the Port of >New York from Foreign Ports - 1789 - 1919. This is a >sometimes chronological, sometimes alphabetical series that >is helpful if you know the name of the ship and the >approximate year. From this series you can make a list of >arrivals of that particular ship and then go on to examine >the manifests, if they have survived. > >Series M261 - Index to Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving >at New York 1820-1846. This is an alphabetical index, by >passenger surname, for the period. > >Series M237 - Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New >York 1820-1897. These are the actual ship lists, filmed in >chronological (most of the time) order, by date of arrival. > >Series T519 - Index to Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving >at New York June 16, 1897 - June 30, 1902. Alphabetical >Index of passengers by surname. > >Series T621 - This is a SOUNDEX index to Passenger Lists of >Vessels Arriving at New York July 1 1902 - December 31, >1943. Arranged in Soundex Code order and then by FIRST name >of passenger. There are three possible types of index cards >to be found in this series. See below*. > >Series T715 - These are actual ship passenger lists arranged >in VOLUME order (and subsequently by date, but not >always...<g>) 1897 - 1920. These "volume" numbers appear on >the index cards in series T621. > >*The three types of index cards that exist in series T-621 >can be confusing at first. Two types have an actual ship >name and (usually) a date, pretty straightforward. The >third type doesn't have either. It may look like this (I'm >going to use Nara's own example here): > >E 430 Elliot, Charles E. 26m 12 53 4660 > >That's about all you'll get. What this translates to is >that after the Soundex Code and the name, you have a 26 year >old male, on line 12, page 53, of volume 4660. You then >take this information to the list that accompanies series >T715 and look up volume 4660. You will find out that volume >4660 translates to a 1913 arrival and the actual volume (and >therefore the ship list) will appear within reels >#1999-2246. There is a further breakdown of this system >available at NARA. > >Hope this is helpful... Best regards. Nancy. > > >NColeman >NYC/Long Island Family History Research Services >http://www.genealogyPro.com/ncoleman.html >http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/o/l/Nancy--Coleman/ >ncroots@worldnet.att.net >NYGenExchange: www.genexchange.com/NY/index.cfm > > > >==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== >Have you considered joining the Rootsweb Genealogical Data >Cooperative? > http://www.rootsweb.com/ >

I should have looked at my dates more carefully. Here's a breakdown of what passenger manifests exist for the Port of New York: Series M1066 - Registers of Vessels Arriving at the Port of New York from Foreign Ports - 1789 - 1919. This is a sometimes chronological, sometimes alphabetical series that is helpful if you know the name of the ship and the approximate year. From this series you can make a list of arrivals of that particular ship and then go on to examine the manifests, if they have survived. Series M261 - Index to Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York 1820-1846. This is an alphabetical index, by passenger surname, for the period. Series M237 - Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York 1820-1897. These are the actual ship lists, filmed in chronological (most of the time) order, by date of arrival. Series T519 - Index to Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York June 16, 1897 - June 30, 1902. Alphabetical Index of passengers by surname. Series T621 - This is a SOUNDEX index to Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York July 1 1902 - December 31, 1943. Arranged in Soundex Code order and then by FIRST name of passenger. There are three possible types of index cards to be found in this series. See below*. Series T715 - These are actual ship passenger lists arranged in VOLUME order (and subsequently by date, but not always...<g>) 1897 - 1920. These "volume" numbers appear on the index cards in series T621. *The three types of index cards that exist in series T-621 can be confusing at first. Two types have an actual ship name and (usually) a date, pretty straightforward. The third type doesn't have either. It may look like this (I'm going to use Nara's own example here): E 430 Elliot, Charles E. 26m 12 53 4660 That's about all you'll get. What this translates to is that after the Soundex Code and the name, you have a 26 year old male, on line 12, page 53, of volume 4660. You then take this information to the list that accompanies series T715 and look up volume 4660. You will find out that volume 4660 translates to a 1913 arrival and the actual volume (and therefore the ship list) will appear within reels #1999-2246. There is a further breakdown of this system available at NARA. Hope this is helpful... Best regards. Nancy. NColeman NYC/Long Island Family History Research Services http://www.genealogyPro.com/ncoleman.html http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/o/l/Nancy--Coleman/ ncroots@worldnet.att.net NYGenExchange: www.genexchange.com/NY/index.cfm

Would just like to add to Charles' excellent summary of the Ellis Island Project that all of these records - for Ellis Island, Castle Garden, (any Port of New York arrivals) etc. - are already available at NARA Northeast and through other outlets such as the LDS and the AGLL. The Ellis Island period, in particular, is indexed. The 50 year period from abt. 1848-1898 is not. Prior to 1848, there are indexes as well. Now, just to clarify what these records are, these are the passenger manifest lists, or ship lists (as they are commonly called). These are not "immigration" records, per se, they are what the the ship line had to prepare in order to enter a US port. Basically a listing of all passengers with some personal details about each passenger. The older the record, the fewer details, usually. My point here is that you certainly do not have to wait for the Ellis Island Project to be finished to search the Ellis Island period ship records. To my knowledge, early Customs and Health/Immigration records (for passengers) have NOT survived for any facility that was an disembarkation point in NY. Someone correct me if I'm wrong and tell me where they are hiding! :) Best regards. Nancy. NColeman NYC/Long Island Family History Research Services http://www.genealogyPro.com/ncoleman.html ncroots@worldnet.att.net NYGenExchange: www.genexchange.com/NY/index.cfm

Hi. I have been having trouble researching a family that lived in Buffalo, NY between 1909 and 1919. The family I am researching is Charles Hughes and his wife Lillian. I don't have very much information on them at all. They had at least 4 children, Richard, Anthony, Amelia and Gertrude. They went to St. Joachims Catholic Church which doesn't seem to exsist anymore. I have tried to find the family in the 1910 or 1920 census but either I missed them or they just aren't in there. Could someone please do a lookup in a Buffalo city directory for one of the years I mentioned and tell me if they family really did live there? Gertrude was born in 1919 and her b-certificate just says Buffalo. Does anyone have ideas on how I can go about trying to find this family? I'm just getting started and I am kind of at a loss. I am with the Erie county list already. Thanks. JeanM