Thanks to Lorine I know have the correct URL for the ANNEKE JANS WEB PAGE. Again, please forgive my mistake. http://genweb.net/~cindy/Anneke/page0.htm Regards, Cindy The Quackenbosch/Quackenbush Family Page http://members.xoom.com/quackenbosch

Hi I just learned the maiden name of my gr grandmother was Rothrock. Her name was Carlotta Rothrock. she married Newton Donovan I'm usure of marriage date so I can't look for a marriage record, but my gr-grandfather was born in 1882.� So it is in that era I'm looking.� I don't even know where to begin with this one. I don't know when,where, or how she died either. Anyone else out ther looking for Rothrock?� A relative has said she was possibly from New York. My grandmother Florence Donovan was born in Elizabeth NJ in 1914. so I'm guessing they might have been from near there Can anyone suggest an area to begin searching Census records? This is a total shot in the dark. Anyone have any other suggestions on how to proceed? Thanks, Kitty � �

Below is the correct URL Sorry for any inconvenience: Cindy http://www.genweb.net/~cindy/Anneke/page0.htm The Quackenbosch/Quackenbush Family Page http://members.xoom.com/quackenbosch

I just wanted to let everyone know that the Anneke Jans Web Page is now up and running. You can access it through my home page or this URL: http//www.genweb.net/~cindy/Anneke/page0.htm Have fun! Regards, Cindy The Quackenbosch/Quackenbush Family Page http://members.xoom.com/quackenbosch

I just subscribed to this list last night and I received four messages that are full of ? mark's. They are titled as follows: archive retrieval: welcome.txt archive retrieval: new_user archive retrieval: netiquette archive retrieval: GEN-NYS-L-FAQ This is an example of what is in them: ???????????????????4??????????????????????????????????††?????4????????†????? ??????????????????????????††??????????????????4????????•??????†????????????? ???????????????°…?????†††††††??4?????•??????†??????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? I'm not sure what to do. Can anyone help me or is there a list owner? Thanks, Kathy kgreifzu@att.net

At 2:33 AM -0700 8/26/99, Michael Burnett wrote: >My ggg Grandfather, Joel DAVIS died in Horseheads, Chemung Co. NY >between 1900 and 1905, I know this because he >was listed in the 1900 federal census at age 85 and >in the 1905 NYS census he is not in the household >and his surviving wife, Matilda POWELL DAVIS wife was head. > he might have died somewhere else; Yonkers, Canada, NYC. look for a will or estate. ============================================================ http://www.panix.com/~cassidy

DennieXYZ@aol.com wrote: > > Hi, > > Is there an index to the NY state census in 1855? If so, where can I find > one? > > Denise > DennieXYZ@aol.com > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > Have you considered joining the Rootsweb Genealogical Data > Cooperative? > http://www.rootsweb.com/ Many counties have indexed their own portion of the 1855 census. Saratoga County even printed theirs in The Saratoga, by towns , over several issues. Chautauqua County has been indexed and available at various repositories around the county and for sale at Fenton Historical Society, 67 Washington St., Jamestown, NY 14701. You can by one town or all of the census. Write to ask for price list.

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I was wondering if anyone could tell me where or what I could use to take out the names of my family before I upload them to my web site. I have a GEDCOM program and that isn't the problem. I just wanted to remove the members of my family that are still living. I remember someone talking about this one time on a list but not sure what the name of the program was. I only remember that there were two of them. Thanks ever so much for any help anyone could give me. -- http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/2740/ -- My Surnames: Asher, Barner, Condry, Conrad, English/Inglis/Inglish, Freeman, Grady/O'Grady, Holt, McInnis/Innis/Innes, Ruiz/Ruis, Shafer/Shaeffer/Schaefer, Watkins, Wentworth.

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Hi, Is there an index to the NY state census in 1855? If so, where can I find one? Denise DennieXYZ@aol.com

This is from the help file in the software, I hope it allowed to post it here: Civil War Muster Rolls or certificates were produced roughly between 1861 and 1865 in order to keep track of a soldier, his rank, unit, equipment, and pension benefits. The original rolls consist of the actual cards soldiers completed and filed with their headquarters. The Civil War Muster Rolls were first compiled on microfilm by the National Archives to assist researchers in their efforts to investigate those who served in the civil war. The database presented in Generations Research Center was created from this same collection of microfilm. It is the largest known electronic collection of those who served in the war and we are proud to play a part in making it readily accessible for the first time to so many people. Users should understand, however, that this is not a complete database of all those who served in the civil war. Most of the records here deal with enlisted men and do not cover high ranking officers (see the Union Generals or Confederate Generals databases in the Historic Records for information on these and other high ranking officers.) Judi Boniface Herkimer, NY boniface@dreamscape.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Elbrecht <elbrecht@mindspring.com> To: <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 3:48 PM Subject: Re: Civil War Muster Rolls > "Judi Boniface" <boniface@dreamscape.com> wrote: > > >There is a CD that came with Sierra's Generations Grande Suite genealogy > >program that is the Civil War Muster Rolls. It tells you what unit the > >person served with and whether he was Union or Confederate. > > Hi Judy, > If you've seen it, does it say if these are 'muster in', 'muster out', > or 'compiled' rolls? Or how complete it claims to be? > > And for those who think they had an ancestor in the civil war who > either doesn't appear on a unit's 'muster roll', remember that they > still might have served. Of the 3 CW soldiers who service I've > looked at in detail, only one appears on a muster 'in' roll , and > none are on the muster out rolls. [one died, one was dropped from > the rolls, and one had his term expire before the Reg. was mustered > out]. > > jim > > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > Have you seen the USGenWeb New York Page? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb/ >

I can tell you that he got traded from the Portland Trailblazers about a month ago. He should be in Atlanta now. HA! Sorry about that- just could not help myself! I'm a big basketball fan and Isiah or "JR" as he is also known, has quite a reputation so many will not miss him here. Good luck to the Atlanta Hawks! Patti W-I Portland Susan Ryder wrote: > > Does anyone have information about Isiah Ryder, born 1799 probably > somewhere in NY? He was married to Mary Dunham in Clarimont County OH > in 1820 or so and moved to Morris, IL where he died in 1852. I would > appreciate any help with this. Thanks! > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > Have you forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > Visit the GEN-NYS-L Frequently Asked Questions (And Answers!) web page: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/GEN-NYS-L/FAQ/GEN-NYS-L.txt

"Judi Boniface" <boniface@dreamscape.com> wrote: >There is a CD that came with Sierra's Generations Grande Suite genealogy >program that is the Civil War Muster Rolls. It tells you what unit the >person served with and whether he was Union or Confederate. Hi Judy, If you've seen it, does it say if these are 'muster in', 'muster out', or 'compiled' rolls? Or how complete it claims to be? And for those who think they had an ancestor in the civil war who either doesn't appear on a unit's 'muster roll', remember that they still might have served. Of the 3 CW soldiers who service I've looked at in detail, only one appears on a muster 'in' roll , and none are on the muster out rolls. [one died, one was dropped from the rolls, and one had his term expire before the Reg. was mustered out]. jim

> Subject: DRAKE, THOMAS O. and Catherine COLE ORANGE CO. and Chemung Co. > Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:42:23 -0700 > From: "Michael Burnett" <mwburne@worldnet.att.net> > > I recently discovered my ggg Grandparents, > Thomas DRAKE and Catherine COLE, who were > from Orange Co. ca. early 1800s. Thomas died before the > 1850 census, I believe and his wife > survived him and moved to the Chemung Co., area. > Their daughter Hattie Mae DRAKE married Nathan > DAVIS of Horseheads, Chemung Co. and they are > my gg Grandparents. Hi Michael, In your Davis research have you come across: Sarah Davis married (1744) Thomas Vail (29jun1720-26may1807) ? *Any* help on Davis would be *greatly* appreciated. Thanks!

Does anyone have information about Isiah Ryder, born 1799 probably somewhere in NY? He was married to Mary Dunham in Clarimont County OH in 1820 or so and moved to Morris, IL where he died in 1852. I would appreciate any help with this. Thanks!

Mike, There are a few other options: He might have had to go to a sanitorium, Either for health or mental reasons. He might have abandoned the family or divorced. He might have been on a trip when he died. Check the local cemetery's or for an obit in the paper.. Just some ideas.. Cyd Rawls

Good point, Rich. Note that Bath is in Steuben County, not Schuyler. Write to the county clerk there. Ric Rich Hill wrote: > Michael, > > I respect your civil war knowledge and appreciate the very informative > postings that you submit. > > I wonder, if your ancestor was a civil war vet, if you have thought to check > for a death certificate in Schuyler Co.? Many of the vets went to the > retirement home in Bath, NY. > > In answer to your question about a certificate being lacking fo 1905, my > confidence of a vital record being avilable starts at about the WW I period. > My dad was born at home in 1906 and he never had a birth certificate. We > had to go to church confirmation records and census documents to get a > social secuirty number for him. The official law started in 1880 but I have > found that many people did not comply in the early years. > > Best regards. > Dick Hillenbrand > Syracuse, NY > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Michael Burnett <mwburne@worldnet.att.net> > To: <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 5:33 AM > Subject: Death Certificate from 1900 - 1905 not there > > > My ggg Grandfather, Joel DAVIS died in Horseheads, Chemung Co. NY > > between 1900 and 1905, I know this because he > > was listed in the 1900 federal census at age 85 and > > in the 1905 NYS census he is not in the household > > and his surviving wife, Matilda POWELL DAVIS wife was head. > > > > There is no information in the vital records death certificate > > index at Albany for his death, at least not that I could find, and > > I looked for every year surrounding the period of his death > > and there were no Joel DAVIS' which would have been him. > > I know that some of the index fishe are missing for some > > surnames for certain years, but I don't believe that this was > > a problem in my case. > > > > I am writing to the vital records office in Elmira in the hope that > > they may have a death certificate for my Joel DAVIS that was > > not indexed. > > > > My questionis, has anyone else has this happen? I know that > > initial compliance with the death certificate law was quite > > spotty from, say 1880 - 1885, or so, but compliance with > > the death certificate requirement should have > > been near 100% by 1900 and that is why I am perplexed at why > > there seems to be no death dertificate for my ggg Grandfather. > > > > Any help/info/suggestions would be appreciated. > > > > Mike Burnett > > mwburne@aol.com > > Cave Creek, AZ > > > > > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > > Have you forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > > Visit the GEN-NYS-L Frequently Asked Questions (And Answers!) web page: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/GEN-NYS-L/FAQ/GEN-NYS-L.html > > > > > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > Have you considered joining the Rootsweb Genealogical Data > Cooperative? > http://www.rootsweb.com/

There is a CD that came with Sierra's Generations Grande Suite genealogy program that is the Civil War Muster Rolls. It tells you what unit the person served with and whether he was Union or Confederate. Judi Boniface Herkimer, NY boniface@dreamscape.com

I guess I deleted too quickly and missed the original query. The 1890 Veterans census is indeed organized by county, but there is no reason you cannot apply for the veteran's military and pension record. The NARA form (NATF 80) only requires the state from which he enlisted., not the regiment. Just FYI, the only REQUIRED items on the form are NAME, BRANCH OF SERVICE, STATE FROM WHICH HE SERVED, WAR, UNION OR CONFEDERATE. . . all of which you know. Since there's no charge for the search, it's certainly worth a try. The fee is $10 if they find something, nothing if they don't. I would send in two forms - one for the military record and one for the pension (although the pension record usually covers both) if you're in a hurry. However, it's important to indicate that you want the whole file, since the $10 only covers a certain number of photocopies. If there is more material than the minimum, they will give you the price for the additional copies before they make them. The only hitch in your case may be that there are too many soldiers from New York named Joel DAVIS. I ran into that with my John THOMAS. However, that is the only failure I've ever had. If you have a death date or know where he lived/died after the war (these are non-essential blanks to fill in) or his widow's name, that would certainly help narrow down the search. But that information is not required. Up to six copies of form NATF 80 are available from the National Archives at inquire@nara2.gov. Just give them your mailing address and you'll have the forms in a couple of weeks. The search itself takes several weeks, so be patient. You will get an answer, even if it's negative. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Burnett <mwburne@worldnet.att.net> To: <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 5:33 AM Subject: Death Certificate from 1900 - 1905 not there > My ggg Grandfather, Joel DAVIS died in Horseheads, Chemung Co. NY > between 1900 and 1905, I know this because he > was listed in the 1900 federal census at age 85 and > in the 1905 NYS census he is not in the household > and his surviving wife, Matilda POWELL DAVIS wife was head. > > There is no information in the vital records death certificate > index at Albany for his death, at least not that I could find, and > I looked for every year surrounding the period of his death > and there were no Joel DAVIS' which would have been him. > I know that some of the index fishe are missing for some > surnames for certain years, but I don't believe that this was > a problem in my case. > > I am writing to the vital records office in Elmira in the hope that > they may have a death certificate for my Joel DAVIS that was > not indexed. > > My questionis, has anyone else has this happen? I know that > initial compliance with the death certificate law was quite > spotty from, say 1880 - 1885, or so, but compliance with > the death certificate requirement should have > been near 100% by 1900 and that is why I am perplexed at why > there seems to be no death dertificate for my ggg Grandfather. > > Any help/info/suggestions would be appreciated. > > Mike Burnett > mwburne@aol.com > Cave Creek, AZ > > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > Have you forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > Visit the GEN-NYS-L Frequently Asked Questions (And Answers!) web page: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/GEN-NYS-L/FAQ/GEN-NYS-L.html > >