Marilyn Jewett Tracey wrote: > > Can someone on the list help this lady? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Barbara Lake Peters > To: Marilyn Tracey > Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 2:53 PM > Subject: researching > > Hi Stranger: > I have found a will in Schuyler county, NY that I would like to have/read. My Red Book states NY can charge $70 plus large copying fees for wills. Do you have any contacts in that county that could read and copy this will - for a fee - but not $70!! > Any suggestions? Thanks. > Barbara > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > Have you seen the USGenWeb New York Page? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb/ Barbara If you will go to this address http://www.wasatch.com/~dsam/sampubco/ and follow along until you get to a place to click NY and then click Shuyler - you will find a list of towns for which wills are available and click on the town you need and see if your persons will is there. If yes - then follow all the instructions for ordering the will. cost is $8.00. Good luck - hope your will is there. Donna

Hi, If you need a good laugh to relieve the stress of ancestor tracking, visit my web site.......... The Genealogy Funny Papers (guaranteed to get a grin) URL is http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~tracers/thefunny.htm And on a more serious genealogy note....... Visit CENSUS ONLINE, where you will find several census transcriptions, genealogy books, links and tips to help you in your quest. URL is http://www.imagin.net/~tracers/census1.htm Stop by and visit us, Brenda & Becky -- GENEALOGY = always meant to be shared! Always digging up SMELSER / WALDROP / WALDROUP / ROBERTS/ / LOOPER / LUPER / STARKEY / WALKER / HALEY / TATMAN and HOUSE Visit my web sites! Lots of databases online! CENSUS ONLINE: http://www.imagin.net/~tracers/census1.htm Visit our Smelser/Smeltzer homepage http://members.tripod.com/tracers Brenda's Branches http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~tracers

I am seeking information on a peter HENDRICKS and his wife HAZEL ROGERS. Both were born circa 1880-1885. They resided in Mt. Vernon about 1905. Any leads would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 21:36:16 -0600 From: Lynn Brandvold <lynn@gis.nmt.edu> Subject: FOIA To: GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com Hi GEN-NYers, I received the message below. Does anyone know the answer? I hadn't thought about it before but Valerie is right, it does sound illogical. Lynn > Dear Lynn > > I have used the FOIA to obtain records of people listed in the Social > Security death benefits list and have found only one problem with the > process -- that it is very slow. However, in New York State, there are > particular state laws preventing non-direct descendants from obtaining > vital records of a person before a certain number of years, a number > that changes depending on the type of record and whether the person is > alive. > > My question is: Does the Committee for Open Government in Albany intend > FOIA to override these privacy laws? It seems odd that I can find out > birth/parent details on someone who died in 1999 if I write to the > Frederal Govt., but I have to wait for 50 years according to NYS > regulations. All it means to genealogists is that there is a period of > time that precedes the SS list of people but that is closed to easy > research because it falls into the privacy category. It all seems > illogical. > > Valerie Clift Valerie, Lynn: As a reporter with a major national newspaper chain, I have used FOIA for many years and have even garnered an award or two for using the filing... But FOIA only applies to federal officials and agencies. On the state level, you have to apply through the appropriate state public-records laws. And like the FOIA, these tend to make government only as open as government wants to be, not as open as WE would like it to be. So no matter what an "open government" committee wants to make open, the law as finally written will only make open those records lawmakers wish to make open ... and if the law grants bureaucrats and paper-pushers great discretion in opening or closing records, "improvements" in the law could make records less open, not more so. I'll give you a few examples. On the national level, the FOIA does not apply to most of the federal judiciary, nor to much of Congress or the Executive. Want to find out whether or not your local Federal judge spent $50,000 on gold bathroom fixtures at the new court house? Surprise! That info isn't subject to FOIA! We tried to get it here for a story after we heard rumors about the new sultan's palace that is the Joe D. Waggonner Federal Building here... And on the state level, the list of exclusions to the state open records law (here in Louisiana) includes everything from open police investigations (even if the case is "closed" but the FILE is still open!) to the minutes and records of the state undertakers board! Go figure! Anyone who has used the FOIA letters to get state records and succeeded, please believe me when I say FOIA only applies to federal agencies, and then not all. I had it explained to me once by a state figure here that FOIAs citing the federal law are usually answered by state folks as a courtesy, but you will usually get a faster response by citing your own state's open records law, since the clerks or whomever you're dealing with will assume you are better informed than folks filing under FOIA ... Good hunting to all.... John Andrew Prime Shreveport, Louisiana http://www.shreve.net/~japrime/lagenweb/resume.htm japrime@shreve.net

Is there a local paper for Tarrytown? If so, what is the name and is it online? If not, what paper would someone read if they lived in Tarrytown? Thanks for any help. Janice

Can someone on the list help this lady? ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara Lake Peters To: Marilyn Tracey Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 2:53 PM Subject: researching Hi Stranger: I have found a will in Schuyler county, NY that I would like to have/read. My Red Book states NY can charge $70 plus large copying fees for wills. Do you have any contacts in that county that could read and copy this will - for a fee - but not $70!! Any suggestions? Thanks. Barbara

Looking for a Harold Estes who married a Ruth fern Pangborn(b. 1904). They were lived in Chautauqua Co. of New York. I don't have a born date, but I figure it's around 1904. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

How does one get a death cert. if you are a granddaughter? Churchville, I live in New Mexico Thank you Volunteer Obit-Lookup Dona Ana County, New Mexico also Cemetery Photos Marcena Thompson

-----Original Message----- From: Bert Cisneros <cisnart@inreach.com> To: GEN-SYS-L@rootsweb.com <GEN-SYS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, October 11, 1999 11:52 AM Subject: Fw: Bert Acosta -----Original Message----- From: Bert Cisneros <cisnart@inreach.com> To: roots web <GEN-SYN-l@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, October 11, 1999 12:26 PM Subject: Bert Acosta Am looking for family members of Bert Acosta, famous pioneer pilot in the 1920's, who lived in the New York/New Jersey/Connecticut states in the years between 1917 through the 1940's. Thank you. Bert - Please contact me at my e-mail address: cisnart@inreach.com

Does anyone have any information about Chipman S Mastin Found in Gouverneur Herald Died. Mastin. At Ogdensburg, Dec. 28, 1888, Chipman S. Mastin, aged 64 years.

Hi, I'm hoping someone can give me a jump start. I'm stuck at this point. These are my GGrandparents and their children. I hope someone can help. Thanks in advance. Sandy Peter Paul MILLER Birth Date: 1871 Death Date: Jun 19, 1938 Spouse: Rose KIRCHGESSNER Birth Date: 1875 Death Date: Apr 19, 1945 Children: 1 Peter MILLER Birth Date: Feb 26, 1894 Death Date: Jul 12, 1894 2 Barbara MILLER Birth Date: May 15, 1901 Death Date: Apr 6, 1965 Spouse: George ANKEN Birth Date July 23, 1891 Death Date: July 1, 1966 3 Dorthea MILLER Death Date: Nov 30, 1974 Spouse: John SWIFT 2nd Spouse: Ed Latham 4 Louise MILLER Death Date: Oct 10, 1967 5 Leo MILLER Burial Date: Jun 12, 1965 Spouse: Mildred GERBER 6 John D. MILLER Death Date: Mar 3, 1967 Spouse: Catherine LETZNER 7 Anna MILLER 8 Isabel M. MILLER Birth Date: Sep 9, 1905 Death Date: Nov 18, 1971 Spouse: Francis Jacob FISCHER Birth Date: Sep 3, 1897 Death Date: Oct 16, 1969 9 Rose MILLER 10 Mildred MILLER Birth Date: Jan 1912 Death Date: Jun 17, 1994 Spouse: Ernest CORKILL 11 Loretta MILLER Birth Date: Dec 29, 1913 Death Date: Sep 14, 1998 Spouse: Robert HAEFNER Sr Birth Date: Jul 6, 1913 Death Date: Apr 17, 1984

Hi, I'm hoping someone will recognize the following so I can track my Great Grandparents. Will be happy to share. Thanks in advance Sandy George Valentine FISCHER Birth Date: Feb 28, 1865 Birth Place: Bremen, W. Germany Death Date: Aug 10, 1940 Spouse: Christina WALTERS Birth Date: Nov 12, 1864 Death Date: Jul 5, 1932 Children: 1 Mary C. FISCHER(Mamie) Birth Date: Apr 27, 1883 Death Date: May 15, 1960 Spouse: Michael KAUFFMAN Death Date: Jul 29, 1957 2 Rose FISCHER Birth Date: Jul 8, 1885 Death Date: Nov 5, 1987 Spouse: Walter TRENDEL Birth Date: Apr 25, 1877 Death Date: May 4, 1930 3 John FISCHER Birth Date: Sep 19, 1887 4 Anna L. FISCHER Birth Date: Dec 11, 1889 Death Date: Nov 26, 1951 Spouse: Thomas SMITH 5 George E. FISCHER Birth Date: Apr 6, 1891 Death Date: Feb 24, 1938 Spouse: Bertha Birth Date: 1899 Death Date: 1962 6 Margaret FISCHER Birth Date: Mar 5, 1893 Death Date: Apr 15, 1974 Spouse: Joseph ROBACH Birth Date: Nov 26, 1890 Death Date: Jun 6, 1948 7 Christine FISCHER Birth Date: Aug 2, 1895 Death Date: Mar 16, 1968 Spouse: Andrew MILBRED 8 Francis Jacob FISCHER Birth Date: Sep 3, 1897 Death Date: Oct 16, 1969 Spouse: Isabel M. MILLER Birth Date: Sep 9, 1905 Death Date: Nov 18, 1971 9 Bertha FISCHER Birth Date: Aug 10, 1899 Death Date: Jan 31, 1991 Spouse: George GIBBONS Birth Date: Sep 7, 1893 Death Date: Jul 25, 1973 10 Edward FISCHER Birth Date: Aug 29, 1905 Death Date: Sep 22, 1953 Spouse: Victoria Birth Date: Oct 22, 1908 Death Date: Feb 2, 1956 11 William FISCHER Death Date: Sep 19, 1950 Spouse: Anna

Hi, I'm trying to find more on my GGreat grandparents. I hope someone on this list finds a connection. Thanks in advance Sandy Eugene J. DORR Birth Date: Apr 18, 1862 Birth Place: Baden, Germany Death Date: May 13, 1924 Immigrated to U.S. 1874 - citizenship 1885 Spouse: Julia A. HIENZ Birth Date: Jun 5, 1873 Birth Place: Alsace, Germany Death Date: Aug 19, 1948 Children: 1 Elsie DORR Birth Date: Feb 3, 1896 Death Date: Sep 2, 1951 Spouse: George GAMMEL Sr Birth Date: Mar 3, 1888 Death Date: 1966 2 Irving E. DORR Birth Date: 1899 Spouse: Hilda DUNHAUSER 3 William H. DORR Birth Date: 1900 Spouse: Nora MUNCHOW 4 Florence A. DORR Birth Date: 1902 Death Date: Aug 16, 1923 Spouse: ? PUERNER 5 Eugene J DORR JR Birth Date: 1905 Death Date: Mar 6, 1960 6 Clarence DORR Birth Date: 1911 Spouse: Leona LYNCH 7 Raymond DORR Birth Date: 1913 Spouse: Virginia LANGHEYER

Hi, I'm trying to find connections to my GGrandfather and family. Will be happy to share if anyone can help. Thanks in advance, Sandy Frederick GAMMEL Birth Date: 1855 Death Date: Oct 1, 1932 Spouse: Phillipina SCHIELS Birth Date: 1855 Death Date: Nov 11, 1936 CHILDREN: 1 Frederick Jr GAMMEL Birth Date: 1879 2 Edward GAMMEL Birth Date: 1886 3 George GAMMEL Sr Birth Date: Mar 3, 1888 Death Date: 1966 Spouse: Elsie DORR Birth Date: Feb 3, 1896 Death Date: Sep 2, 1951 4 Helen GAMMEL Birth Date: 1891 Spouse: George MAYER Birth Date: 1888 5 Frank GAMMEL Birth Date: 1895 Spouse: Mildred Death Date: Sep 20, 1996 6 Emma GAMMEL Birth Date: 1900 Death Date: Sep 4, 1922 7 Charles GAMMEL Spouse: Cora 8 Florence GAMMEL Spouse: Henry MILLER

Hi, I'm trying to track my husbands family tree. His grandparents lived in the Rochester area and I believe some of them still do. I haven't had much luck and hope someone will recognize something. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Sandy Arthur H. PLANT Birth Date: 1890 Birth Place: Rochester Death Date: Oct 26, 1942 Spouse: Clara L. SCHRAM Birth Date: 1891 Death Date: Oct 24, 1983 Children: 1 Trilby PLANT Spouse: Ed HALLIT 2 Earl PLANT Spouse: Gladys 3 Kenneth PLANT Spouse: Elaine 4 Donald PLANT Spouse: Ruth 5 Harold PLANT Spouse: Clara B 1915 D 1981 6 Alice PLANT Spouse: Len LUNDY 7 Arlene PLANT Spouse: Bill FINLEY 8 Robert PLANT Spouse: Ruth DINGLDY 9 Gordon W PLANT Sr. Birth Date: Jul 4, 1926 Death Date: Apr 15, 1983 Spouse: Marie Catherine BUSCANI Birth Date: Feb 14, 1926 10 Betty PLANT 11 Charles PLANT Spouse: Dorothy DODGE

Hi, I'm trying to track my husbands GGrandparents. They came from Ireland and Thomas lived in New York City for awhile. At the time of their deaths they were living in Buffalo, New York. Any connections would be greatly appreciated. Sandy Thomas J. MURPHY Birth Date: Feb 13, 1869 Death Date: Oct 20, 1936 Spouse: Margaret MAHER Birth Date: Feb 20, 1868 Birth Place: County Tipperary, Ireland Death Date: Dec 6, 1940 Children: 1 John MURPHY Death Date: Aug 21, 1957 Spouse: Louise H Death Date: Jul 17, 1960 2 William MURPHY Spouse: Clara 3 Michael MURPHY Spouse: May 4 Anna MURPHY Birth Date: Oct 19, 1900 Death Date: Mar 27, 1981 Spouse: John PETERSON Death Date: May 16, 1956 5 Edward MURPHY 6 Josephine MURPHY Birth Date: May 29, 1904 Death Date: Feb 21, 1983 Spouse: Bert FISHER Birth Date: Dec 4, 1905 Death Date: Sep 22, 1985 7 Margaret MURPHY Birth Date: Nov 14, 1906 Death Date: May 5, 1987 Spouse: Joseph BUSCANI Birth Date: Dec 18, 1902 Death Date: Oct 15, 1976

Good news! The RAYNOR family has been in America since the early 1600s and there are a lot of us who are descendants of those early settlers. Those of us who are searching for RAYNORs now have a discussion list. My name is Karima and I am the RAYNOR List administrator. Please join the list by following the insturctions below (if you have any trouble, please contact me personally at mailto:quest@springnet1.com: How to unsubscribe. Send a message to RAYNOR-L-request@rootsweb.com that contains (in the body of the message) the command subscribe and no additional text. If you prefer to subscribe in Digest form, send your "subscribe" message to: RAYNOR-D-request@rootsweb.com

For those of you close enough to travel to Goshen in Orange County, there is an ongoing genealogical and local history used book exchange going on at the historians office in the 1841 court house at 101 Main Street. Lots of good stuff. Also, it's not too late to attent the basic genealogy course sponsored by the Orange County Genealogical Society on Thursday evenings 7 - 9 PM. This weeks class will cover Vital Records, Church Records, Cemetery Records. Free and open to the public at the 1841 Court House. Dan Burrows dburrows1@juno.com ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

Hi all, I was wondering if there was an index to the death records for the State of New York for the year 1971? I'm looking for the records on a Great Uncle who I believe passed away in the Fishkill area. Any information would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Pat Z.

Is anyone researching these names, marriages with Sherwoods in NY state ? Skinner 1816 Genung 1816 Barton / Buckley 1818 Watson 1819 Cowan 1824 Bascom 1827 Booth 1828 Mitchell 1830 Tks, Bev